Thread 33883882

>Only 5% of the male population has access to reproduction with women ages 18-24
>This is unironically the WORST time in all of human history to be a male
>Even the Agrarian Revolution often cited by historians as "the worst time to be a male" was not this bad
>The ratio back then, was 1:17 the ratio today is 1:20 or 1:21
>There has no point in recorded or unrecorded history where it has ever been this bad to be male.

>>33883882 (OP)
>Recorded history
Literally the patriarchy though.

>>33883882 (OP)
>>Only 5% of the male population has access to reproduction with women ages 18-24
Maybe try going for women 25+ you creep

Beyond over for zoomers. That age group is the most looks obssesed of all women tho. It gets better with age

>>33883892
Retard, that ratio will continue on and get worse as time goes on. Aiming for infertile and the mentaly ill doesnt fix anything. This flat denial of reality that everyone is now feeling is wearing thin.

>>33883901
Women are fertile until like 50

Interesting crop
>The number of female sex partners is more unequally distributed among single men (Gini 0.60) than the number of male sex partners is among single women (Gini 0.58)
>both male and female sex partners are highly concentrated among people.

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>top 5% of each population accounting for more of the sexual behaviour than the bottom 50% of the population. Sexual behaviours were most concentrated among adolescents, the least educated and the most impoverished.
>The most impoverished men and women had the highest concentration levels for two of the three sexual behaviours (vaginal sex acts, opposite-sex partners in past 12months).

>>33883882 (OP)
Statistics show that 93.7% of statistics are made up on the spot.

>>33883936
That's a lie. It's less than 1%.

>>33883882 (OP)
>>This is unironically the WORST time in all of human history to be a male
Or perhaps it's a signal, room for potential.
Even a blind man will create a beautiful melody with an instrument to beg when he does not have to. There is still a lot of potential for everyone, even if they're robbed of something, so accepting this instead of trying to push against it and failing is preferable, no?
>For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

>>33883892
Kinda like Christmas cake, if it's past the 25th, it's not fitting to go for it.

>>33883882 (OP)
Being able to have sex isn't going to meaningfully change your life.

>>33883973
Having money won't meaningfully change your life.
Having power won't meaningfully change your life.
Having a life won't meaningfully change your life.

I can say stupid shit too. It's fun!

>>33883882 (OP)
4chan is an echo chamber of lonely, strange men, it's as biased a source as they come. If you aren't a sperg retard women tend to like you.
If you have a decent job, a sense of humour, are capable of being self sufficient (ie cooking and cleaning up after yourself) and have interests beyond videogames and movies you'll attract girls just fine. If you're genuinely fun to be around and kind you'll be able to peak their interest.

>>33883882 (OP)
This is the advice board

>>33883983
You can only make this argument when you haven't had it. When you actually get this stuff and look back in time, nothing actually changed.

>>33883987
You of course are speaking from experience and are not a strange lonely man, nor are you here to hurt people.

>>33883983
>You cannot serve both God and money
>“The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that. Instead, the greatest among you should be like the youngest, and the one who rules like the one who serves.
>Those who love their life lose it, and those who hate their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.

There is a way to live without any of these. Even if you don't believe in any of it, ask yourself why people who've propagated it are known to us hundreds or even thousands of years later, why the whole world venerates the people who reject these things becuase they know that there is something even greater out there.

>>33884002
Most people win due to things beyond thier control.

You didn't change, you didn't have any effect, you still won.

Agency is not a prerequisite to winning

>>33884011
>you'll own nothing and be happy goy
Fuck off and die kike-slave

>>33884014
No one said it was. Still doesn't change what I said. None of this shit matters, on your death bed you aren't going to be thinking about what a good competitor you were.

>>33883983
Nah sex really doesn't change much.
Companionship can make a night and day difference, but just sex is pretty inconsequential.
Hookups are just a releif like beating off, passionate sex with someone who genuinely loves you results in a closer bond and THAT'S the real life-changing stuff.

>>33884005
I am in fact speaking from experience. I'm a pretty strange guy but I'm definitely not lonely, and I genuinely come on here to help where I can.

>>33884018
Goy means "nation", the followers of Christ ARE the New Israel.
>die kike-slave
Sorry, but following Christ means that i have to believe in eternal life aswell :(
>I am the resurrection and the life.[f] Those who believe in me, even though they die, will live, and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die.

>>33884031
I need an emotional connection anyway, I was assuming that. You feeling the need to differentiate and project speaks more about you than me.

>>33884075
Now this is good bait.

>>33884085
>I need an emotional connection anyway, I was assuming that.
I'm the same way, but there's this prevailing idea on here that a lot of dudes think any sex at all will fix them and make them a real boy.
>You feeling the need to differentiate and project speaks more about you than me.
I differentiate because a lot of people treat sex as a casual thing these days, I'm trying to explain the difference in reward between casual sex and the sex that comes from a loving relationship to people who haven't experienced either. You kind of need to differentiate the difference when people don't recognize there is one. Your own post was a response likening sex as a concept to attain like money, power, having a life; not as a result of a human connection.

Not sure what I was projecting the first time around but you go ahead and villify me if it makes you feel better.

>>33883983
funny, I wasted my 20s on chasing love, women. a few relationships that ultimately led nowhere. then I gave up women for almost two years now, no sex, no attention, nothing, and I'm 31 and make close to 10k/month ( which is not bad by eu standards for my age cohort) yet I'm still lonely in a different sense. the obvious reality is that you need both, which is extremely difficult to balance

>>33884085
>I need an emotional connection anyway
By the Grace of God i shall die alone, by constantly lusting after suff like this you get subjected to vices, which will lead to destruction.
Many people also wished for it but never recieved it, think of them, it's not essential for your life.

>>33883987
Depending on your definition of "decent job" I hit all of these. Women do not give a shit about your interests. I have seen guys pull from just sitting around smoking weed all day and eating fast food. It doesn't matter. Most women today are profoundly mentally ill, their hormones are fucked up, they are a disaster on every metric. The old ways of finding someone don't work anymore because they aren't the women you grew up around. It is random, and to a point fully out of your control. Genetics play an insane role along with timing but if you are under 30 and you find someone you better try your hardest to keep them or there's a good chance you won't find another for another decade

>>33883882 (OP)
Doesn’t this suggest that there will be a growing number of single mothers, as well as fathers raising children who aren’t biologically their own? This trend could have far-reaching social implications that we have yet to fully understand.
I don't think there is any historical example that we can reflect on to get an idea of what is to come...

>>33884002
The sheer difference in dopamine is enough to improve your life. Anyone who says "my life was the same" either takes this for granted or they never had this as a chronic problem. It's like telling someone who is starving to death "I ate a sandwich and my life still sucked so if you ate food yours would too" not realizing their needs are completely different.

The reality is that zoomers and young millenials are fucked in the ass regardless if they're incels or not. Bad economy, shit wages, no stable careers, lowest rate of homeownership, just in general poor as fuck. Adding sexlessness to that is pissing in a sea of piss. It's just terrible in every possible way

>>33884002
I've been poor and wealthy and no you're fucking wrong. I've had dry spells and lucky streaks and again you are super wrong. I've not had power.

>>33884171
I'd imagine real power, as in being part of powerful networks, in poltics or high finance, probably feels the best out of all of them ( and also fascilitates pussy and wealth of course)

>>33884148
It was something like 15% of legal paternity cases had no genetics with the father. This isn't new, just a fresh convolution revealed by the internet.

I see two solutions here when we are looking at 50% of the population being totally wiped out on a genetic level. This is a problem, a ratio that is higher than any genocide in recorded history where women, through their cruelty and retardation, has decided in their infinite wisdom to wipe out millions of bloodlines because social media told them to. We either remove ALL of their rights, the right to work, right to vote, own property, etc so they have to be with a guy to survive, or we sacrifice a large section of the population. We set up MAID, we allow these surplus(even though they arent fucking surplus they could totally find a woman, the ratio between men and women is equal, their woman is 100% fucking out there she just refuses to EVER be with them) to die peacefully and painlessly. And we let a large section of the population become ghost genetics, literally bottlenecking humanity both genetically and in the workforce, so women can continue to fuck random hot guys and work for ceos who hate them.

In my opinion if you like civilization the best solution is the only one, remove their rights, never let them have freedom of speech again. These subhumans have proved time and time again what they are like and what they believe. I am sick of pretending they are like men or have any empathy at all. Total control over their agency is the only solution.

>>33884156
>The sheer difference in dopamine is enough to improve your life.
You can do heroin to get a dopamine boost. You can play video games to get a dopamine boost. Dopamine is not a happiness chemical.

women have always been attracted to the same things on a primal level. looks and power ( or at least competence in whatever field you're in). you can supress their sexuality by culturally enforcing monogamy, to safeguard male participation in society. but you can't reseal pandora's box I'm afraid. it's not politically viable, even the most extreme fringe parties don't even entertain that idea. not even authororatiaran states like china, who're suffering with the same issue btw, would roll back women's rights. pragmatically, they're too useful for capitalism ( both as workers and as mass consumers)

>>33884147
>Women do not give a shit about your interests. I have seen guys pull from just sitting around smoking weed all day and eating fast food.
The main point of having these interests is having interesting stuff to talk about, I find stoners are generally pretty good company and have some wild takes so they're fun to talk to.
>Depending on your definition of "decent job" I hit all of these.
>Most women today are profoundly mentally ill, their hormones are fucked up, they are a disaster on every metric.
So you're hitting all the superficial boxes but you're in insufferable person to be around, I found your problem.
>The old ways of finding someone don't work anymore because they aren't the women you grew up around. It is random, and to a point fully out of your control.
The old ways were completely random too, having a cute girl move into your neighborhood, finding somebody you really click with at a bar, it's all random and out of your control, you just have to stack the odds in your favor where you can by being a desirable person same as back then.
>Genetics play an insane role along with timing
Every human being in your lineage has managed to have at least one child so your genetics are viable, are you displaying your genetic potential? If you take care of yourself and present yourself well you'll manage fine, being jacked is great and all but it's not a must have trait for the majority of the population.
>But if you are under 30 and you find someone you better try your hardest to keep them or there's a good chance you won't find another for another decade
Trying to make any unhappy relationship work for fear of ending up alone is going to isolate you far, far worse. I'm a firm believer in putting a lot of time and energy into a relationship but if you're not happy and they're not happy you're only hurting your odds at happiness by waiting longer to try to find someone more compatible.

>>33884202
>You can do heroin to get a dopamine boost

Which destroys your liver and your body and has a high chance of OD'ing. Retarded solution.

>You can play video games to get a dopamine boost

I have never ever played a video game that gave me the dopamine boost and relaxation a long hug or cuddling with someone brings. My skin literally vibrates from that, weight gets removed off my shoulders, i can take on the world far more after. COD has never made me feel like that.

>Dopamine is not a happiness chemical.

Its part of a greater happiness. Im just saying that when you have someone physically in your life things change a lot if you have never had it. You go from below human, below the worst rapists on the planet, the worst murderers, the absolutely bottom of the barrel to now being normal. That is a HUGE massive jump in mentality. If having someone didnt do that for you then you probably didnt have this as a chronic problem or you were a teenager when you were alone. Try being alone your entire 20s. Try being alone your entire life. It changes who you are and how you view the world. How you view yourself. Self hatred becomes common sense. Self destruction becomes a life philosophy.

Also if we look at Maslows hierarchy of needs we will see sex is objectively agreed upon to be a NEED. On the same level as eating and breathing. You can make the argument then what women have done on a mass scale is literally starve the population, they attempted to restrict our baseline needs for...??? uhh...

Literally nothing good comes out of them ever having a say in anything. They arent even happy fucking random guys because they are fleeting. They dont settle. We are currently in the most drugged out broken generation of women ever as a result.

>>33884212
>So you're hitting all the superficial boxes but you're in insufferable person to be around, I found your problem.

So i am being insufferable because i am talking about statistically facts? This is the problem with society today, you literally cant bring up anything about women without being labeled an incel.

>The old ways were completely random too, having a cute girl move into your neighborhood, finding somebody you really click with at a bar, it's all random and out of your control, you just have to stack the odds in your favor where you can by being a desirable person same as back then.

The difference is that girl already has someone she met online or met through whatever or is burned in some way and literally cant form relationships anymore. Again, women today arent like women of 20 years ago.

>Every human being in your lineage has managed to have at least one child so your genetics are viable, are you displaying your genetic potential? If you take care of yourself and present yourself well you'll manage fine, being jacked is great and all but it's not a must have trait for the majority of the population.

>MUH BE JACKED
>MUH TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF

Every guy i know, literally every single guy i know, in a relationship was a train wreck before they met the woman they are with. Fat, depressed, whatever. The idea you have to "improve" to find someone i find a redflag. No guy you see with a loyal woman has ever sat down and wrote down all they hate about themselves and a five part plan on how to fix it. They just existed, and that was good enough.

>I'm a firm believer in putting a lot of time and energy into a relationship but if you're not happy and they're not happy you're only hurting your odds at happiness by waiting longer to try to find someone more compatible.

The dating pools nowadays are so much smaller its basically something you have to do. That one woman could bet he only one you even get a chance with for a decade.

>>33884218
>Which destroys your liver and your body and has a high chance of OD'ing. Retarded solution.
It doesn't. If you were to ingest pure heroin, it's basically nontoxic, unless you overdose.
>I have never ever played a video game that gave me the dopamine boost and relaxation a long hug or cuddling with someone brings. My skin literally vibrates from that, weight gets removed off my shoulders, i can take on the world far more after. COD has never made me feel like that.
You are saying the same thing as "I have never done cocaine that was as good as crack." You think it's qualitatively different, but it's not.
>Try being alone your entire 20s. Try being alone your entire life.
I did. How do you think monks live? Yet they are happier than most humans.
>Also if we look at Maslows hierarchy of needs we will see sex is objectively agreed upon to be a NEED. On the same level as eating and breathing.
Bro how do you even misunderstand Maslow's hierarchy? It's a hierarchy. Love/belonging is deemed less important than safety and physiological needs, it's basically mid-tier.
>Literally nothing good comes out of them ever having a say in anything. They arent even happy fucking random guys because they are fleeting. They dont settle. We are currently in the most drugged out broken generation of women ever as a result.
Redpill guys always say that women look to settle in their 30s. So go for older women.

>>33884233
>you literally cant bring up anything about women without being labeled an incel.

Complete bullshit, sexhavers have conversations about women all the time.
The difference is that nothing of what you say is based on real life experiences in any way whatsoever, its all terminally online garbage mixed with cherry picked dodgyx "studies".
Like how the fuck do you evem measure the "Number of sex acts" in a population. I can't tell, because you haven't linked or posted the whole study, just a very selective snipped that "proves" your basement dweller cope .

Thanks to this anon for doing the research: >>33883921

According to your own study, the solution is to simply quit your job and be poor, because uneducated poorfags are apparently the 5% who have the most sex. How does that fit into your coping strategy?

>>33883882 (OP)
duh? Men tend to date down while women tend to date up. No shit that younger men get less actions. Stop being retarded OP.

>>33884236
>It doesn't. If you were to ingest pure heroin, it's basically nontoxic, unless you overdose.

>heroin is totally safe bro

retarded.

>I did. How do you think monks live? Yet they are happier than most humans.

You didnt. Depression rates are so high for that you didnt "live". And i have looked for over a decade on how to live like a monk without completely selling and ending everything ive worked hard to accomplish and ive been given zero solutions. Living with zero physical contact is hell. We saw it during covid, we watched as you normalshits lost their fucking minds from it. You cant lie anymore.

>Bro how do you even misunderstand Maslow's hierarchy?

Bro are you rage baiting? Did you read it?

>Physiological needs
>SEX

Its right fucking there dude. I know english is hard but these are easy words.

>Redpill guys always say that women look to settle in their 30s. So go for older women.

>Settle for a woman who hates you and doesnt want to be with you and arguably has more rights than you
>after decades of loneliness and mistreatment

Yeah sounds like a great idea.

>>33884236
opiates are ironically some of the least harmful drugs you can take, physically speaking at least. over time they do tend to hit your androgen production pretty hard tho. also the addiction is nasty. but one off, in a safe dose, they're completely harmless

>>33884251
Yeah, Back in school when we entered the sex havign age of like 14-17, it was the guys one or two age groups above us who repaed the benefits. So the girl swere all fucking while we were all basically incels for a year ot two.
Not to menthion that a lot of dudes take into their early twenties to come into their own, its totally normal.
The upside is that you can easily plap mid twenties pussy at 35, os it evens out.

>>33884254
>retarded.
I never said it's safe, only that it's nontoxic. The chemical itself doesn't even kill you, it's that your body gets so relaxed that you forget to breathe.
>You didnt. Depression rates are so high for that you didnt "live". And i have looked for over a decade on how to live like a monk without completely selling and ending everything ive worked hard to accomplish and ive been given zero solutions. Living with zero physical contact is hell. We saw it during covid, we watched as you normalshits lost their fucking minds from it. You cant lie anymore.
No, you're just talking about yourself. I've had no friends or romantic partners for years, it's fine. You can get physical contact through social hobbies.
>LIts right fucking there dude. I know english is hard but these are easy words.
Sex is not a need. No one dies from lack of sex. If sex were considered a physiological need, it would be including masturbation simply because it's such a strong urge, but even then many people do nofap without issues.
>Yeah sounds like a great idea.
If sex is such a strong need as you claim, then you would do anything to get it. It's like a starving African who would eat out of a dumpster. But now you're being choosy.

>>33884275
>No, you're just talking about yourself. I've had no friends or romantic partners for years, it's fine. You can get physical contact through social hobbies.

Then you must have some sort of profound autism or personality disorder to not go insane from that. Studies have shown this isnt how humans are, they are social creatures.

>Sex is not a need. No one dies from lack of sex. If sex were considered a physiological need, it would be including masturbation simply because it's such a strong urge, but even then many people do nofap without issues.

Psychologists disagree but whatever. Pretty sure longevity is tied to having frequent sex which tells me yes its possible but its MASSIVELY stressful for the human body.

>If sex is such a strong need as you claim, then you would do anything to get it. It's like a starving African who would eat out of a dumpster. But now you're being choosy.

Because this isnt sex. That is commitment. That would be like telling a starving african to ONLY eat garbage. Especially when it seems like a large percentage of the population is eating steak. Theres resentment there.

>

>>33884233
>you literally cant bring up anything about women without being labeled an incel.
>Most women today are profoundly mentally ill, their hormones are fucked up, they are a disaster on every metric
>The difference is that girl already has someone she met online or met through whatever or is burned in some way and literally cant form relationships anymore.
You can have general complaints sure, for example I think most girls depend too heavily on social media for opinions and validation, but making extreme black and white blanket statements like yours does all the incel labeling for you.

>Every guy i know, literally every single guy i know, in a relationship was a train wreck before they met the woman they are with. Fat, depressed, whatever.
They must have had some redeeming qualities and endearing mannerisms to attract their girls. You don't need to be perfect to be attractive but you need to have *something* going for you.

>The idea you have to "improve" to find someone i find a redflag. No guy you see with a loyal woman has ever sat down and wrote down all they hate about themselves and a five part plan on how to fix it.

So you think any neet neckbeard with a pissjug collection is fine? That should be enough to attract women? I'm not saying you need to be a jacked adonis with a 6 figure job and a 401k to get laid, I'm saying that if you respect yourself enough to put some effort into your life it wouldn't hurt your odds at finding a decent girl to spend it with.

>They just existed, and that was good enough.
It was how they existed that was good enough, not the fact that they existed at all.

>>being jacked is great and all but it's not a must have trait
>MUH BE JACKED
>MUH TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF
You don't do well with reading comprehension do you?

>That one woman could bet he only one you even get a chance with for a decade.
If you're worth being around, people tend to come around.

>>33883937
Show me the statistics to prove that

>>33884291
>Then you must have some sort of profound autism or personality disorder to not go insane from that. Studies have shown this isnt how humans are, they are social creatures.
I am extremely high IQ.
>Psychologists disagree but whatever. Pretty sure longevity is tied to having frequent sex which tells me yes its possible but its MASSIVELY stressful for the human body.
I actually lol'd at this. If anything, it's correlation and not causation, since sex-havers tend to be healthier and more physically fit.
It sounds to me like you've not had sex even once and you're projecting all of these qualities onto it. Go get yourself a hooker and tell me if it massively relieved your stress.
>Because this isnt sex. That is commitment. That would be like telling a starving african to ONLY eat garbage. Especially when it seems like a large percentage of the population is eating steak. Theres resentment there.
You can develop a taste for it. A large percentage of the population only eats fast food.

>>33884308
> Go get yourself a hooker and tell me if it massively relieved your stress.

Thats where you are wrong, dead fucking wrong. I have seen ten hookers in my life, and after every single time my life has MASSIVELY improved. Like day and night improved. Like I become a totally different person level improved. And this is with STRANGERS. No emotional or physical connection at all. If i were to get into a real healthy relationship it would be like mental and possibly even physical steroids. I literally, cant comprehend, how the fuck it isnt the same for you.

>You can develop a taste for it. A large percentage of the population only eats fast food.

Fair, i just have doubts i could even afford the "fast food" in this situation. Im not saying i wouldnt date an ugly girl or a fat girl or whatever, im saying i dont think i could date on a practical sense because she would have so much baggage and an inflated sense of self she will be impossible to keep.

>>33884293
>You don't need to be perfect to be attractive but you need to have *something* going for you.

And i look down my list and i have a lot going for me on paper but it doesnt seem to translate. I have come to the only conclusion that there seems to have been a break in the human race and theres a subset, through some way, that was born with no soul and is no longer a human. We are basically rips in reality and i really wish society gave us a 100% successful way to kill ourselves because i dont see any point in living like this.

>If you're worth being around, people tend to come around.

I have an active social circle, it doesnt matter if you arent human.

It's love not sex. I still vividly remember my chillhood crush holding my hand, sitting together on the edge of a bouncy castle, but I have no real fond memories of most of the women I've slep with.

>>33884329
>Thats where you are wrong, dead fucking wrong. I have seen ten hookers in my life, and after every single time my life has MASSIVELY improved.
Can't you just keep buying hookers then? Damn. Probably less expensive than a gf.
>Fair, i just have doubts i could even afford the "fast food" in this situation. Im not saying i wouldnt date an ugly girl or a fat girl or whatever, im saying i dont think i could date on a practical sense because she would have so much baggage and an inflated sense of self she will be impossible to keep.
Women in general are a mixed bag, but older women tend to be more attainable. And single mothers are just dead-simple.

>>33884299
Here: 1%

>>33884329
>I have an active social circle, it doesnt matter if you arent human.
Your problem might be that you fuck hookers, have zero self esteem and look at attraction as a checklist.
You've got to be enjoyable to be around first and foremost, you can have everything else but if girls don't like being around you, you won't have many girls around.

>>33884293
>So you think any neet neckbeard with a pissjug collection is fine?

No, but im not a neckbeard with a pissjug collection, i am a normal guy, and should be considered a normal guy, but im not. Im considered worse than rape and abuse. I have put more time and energy into improving my life than literally 100% of the men i know in relationships. It doesnt matter. Any girl i get along with always has another guy or 1000 different reasons why we cant be together. I cant understand why i am considered so awful, so far below average that i literally have ZERO chance with anyone, that is a question i wish i could ask like God or something. Why am i considered worse than abusive drug addicts? Why am i judged so harshly? Why am i put under standards that are 100x harsher than other people?

I have had buddies flat out tell me i have a chance, and i shouldnt be having this level of difficulty, yet i am. And truthfully at this point i dont care if i find someone, i fucking hate women with a passion now and cant trust them at all. I needed it a decade or more ago.

>>33883892
Most women look horrible past 25, most women are not attractive even at 18.
Women peak around 13, if you get one at 25+ you are basically driving off with a "new" car that has been sitting on the lot for over 10 years. Normally the value drops in half, but in this case you retain maybe 25% of the value, a really bad deal.

>>33884366
Probably because you're the awful combination of being bland and resentful. The abusive drug addict at least gives the girl some thrills, or life lessons, you just seem like the person who wears down others just by being near to them

>>33884369
why are we comparing humans to a mode of transportation? Doesn't seem like an adequate comparison in my opinion.

How is this post asking for advice; only come to my board if you're actually going to contribute, you useless sack of shit.

>>33884354
>Can't you just keep buying hookers then? Damn. Probably less expensive than a gf.

Hookers where i live are extremely comedically expensive, cold, and illegal to see. Its a giant pain in the ass to set anything up and scams are becoming more and more common even for established providers. Also i laugh at the people who think hookers are cheaper. Like tell you have kids that is a hilarious statement. Like where i live they charge $500/hr on average and you have to drive 3 hours to go see them. Lets compare that to a gf. She comes over, spends 4 hours with you cuddling and doing whatever, that would have cost $2000 if you did the same thing with an escort/hooker. You see where i am going with this? Sure, you have to buy dinner for her, ok fine, but $50, fuck, lets say you are a baller, you take her to the best Michelin star restaurant in the city and pay her $500 for her multi course meal, that would still STILL be cheaper than a hooker because at least you get to sleep with her over night. Over night would be over $7000 at these prices. Plus theres a good chance she would be better than any of these emotionally dead hateful women that are currently selling their bodies. They also, have stopped being human long ago.

>Your problem might be that you fuck hookers, have zero self esteem and look at attraction as a checklist.

All attributes i got from being along for a long time.

>You've got to be enjoyable to be around first and foremost

Ive been told by women i am fun to be around, they just go off and fuck other guys so im not sure what they mean by that. I think its more friendzone type stuff than actual attraction and thats the problem when you have infinite options. You literally cant out compete every guy in your area which is why i say the solution is removing womens rights so they have to settle young and early with someone instead of bouncing around all over the place

>>33884370
I bitch a lot on the internet so i dont bitch to people irl. I am not this angry and resentful openly irl. My internet personality is far more angry and unhinged but thats so i dont be that way to people around me

>>33884366
If the neckbeard with his pissjug collection manages to not be fat or otherwise physically repulsive, some girl will eventually find his genuine enthusiasm for Warhammer figurines to be endearing and go to "I can save him" mode.
Also I've had women over while my place was looking like a mixture of drug den and pig sty, they weren't enthused but ultimately didn't give a fuck because they were horny and enjoyed my company.
the latter part is important, being an average milquetoast wagie with vacuumed floors will nto make a woman horny.

>>33884399
Maybe, but there is also a good chance he is human while i am not. This is probably why no dating advice works for me or people like me. You are trying to tell subhumans, or non-humans, blanks, how to do human things when its not possible. I believe my general inhumanity is to a point where i am worse than the neckbeard with a pissjug collection just by aura alone and theres nothing i can do about it other than hopefully find some way to live alone so i dont go out and hurt someone or blow thousands of dollars on sex workers.

>>33883882 (OP)
that's not true! that is just not true!

>>33883892
Single chicks over 25 are nuts, damaged goods, and not worth the investment.

That's the cutoff.
25.
No exceptions.

>>33883882 (OP)
"Muh statistics!!" There's a reason guys like OP never gets laid. The world isn't some giant calculator where everything adheres to the rules of some number god. Just get out there and talk to a woman, try to be enjoyable holy shit. You can't math your way into having sex unless she's a huge fucking nerd or something. You say you're a normal guy but here you are screeching about data nobody cares about. Why should you care how often other men are banging chicks?

>>33883882 (OP)
I have 1k+ matches on Tinder, and I fuck different females weekly. I even tell them that I'm into casual sex, nothing serious, but all of them are trying to "fix" me or whatever, and act like they are in a relationship with me. It's the funniest shit ever. A few girls even threatened to kill themselves if I stopped talking to them. Imagine acting like that towards the guy you met two days ago. You know what's funnier, knowing that bitch will be forced to settle with some betacuck after tasting me.

>>33884454
>A few girls even threatened to kill themselves if I stopped talking to them.

Fucking BPD loons is not the flex you think it is

>>33884454
It's a bad way to live, one day your looks will fade, you will grow old, and even if you end up married to a women you'll always resent the fact that this is the end of your potential. Only you can decide how you want to live, but accepting the loss of the end can be painful, so humble yourself before it's too late.

>>33884477
>one day your looks will fade, you will grow old, and even if you end up married to a women you'll always resent the fact that this is the end of your potential.

NTA but thats pure fanfiction. You make hium sound like a teenage girl , lmao. "Your looks fade".
And whythe fuck would he marry, and a woman he doesn't even like? You're spouting complete nonsense, its pure cope.

>>33884308
>I am extremely high IQ.
IQ, for the most part, is pseudoscience. This just tells me that you barely know what you're talking about.

>>33884473
Agree, I have like 50 different pics of these whores randomly cutting themselves. I even called the police to report this shit.
That's why BPD schizos are a minority in my sex life.
>>33884477
You sound exactly like the girls I talk to. I don't need fixing. I enjoy this kind of life, bitches I fuck enjoy it too till they don't. But that's not my problem. I'm not into this stable shit where your bitch controls you 24/7. My friends all got married, and they barely talk to me; they never have time, utterly pathetic. And even if I get married someday, I'm 100% marrying a pure, somewhat educated country girl who has a great father. Tinder girls, marriage? zero chance.

Op has the reading comprehension skills of a deep fried cucumber

>>33884454
>>33884556
Look at this shit. Absolute sociopaths get girls. These are what girls want: people who despise their guts and treat them like sex toys. And then these kinds of people reproduce, of course, society goes to shit.

>>33884369
Fuck off pedo

>>33884600
>These are what girls want
No, this is what mentally ill girls with father issues want.

>>33883882 (OP)
China has artificial wombs. in the next 10 years women will be over, done for, completely abandoned and will go unloved

>>33884623
Then explain how that guy gets 1k+ matches and I get like 10 a month at best, and none of them go anywhere.

>>33883882 (OP)
>Only 5% of men have sex
Sorry rabbi but that's not what your pic actually says.

>>33883896
i really do feel bad for them. i talk to some of them who are complete virgins and its depressing. if i grew up as a zoomer id most likely be an virgin right now, thankfully ive had sex with about 14 women but i still fucking hate them and rarely go on dates anymore.

>>33884454
please dont reproduce

>>33884659
First off you don't know if anything anyone posts on here is real. Second, if you were given the choice between fucking the hottest girl you've ever seen and just a plain Jane, you would take the first one.

>>33884659
Anon... tinder is a cesspool, basing your success on how well you do with the romantic equivalent to dogshit is foolish. Obviously the mentally ill girls on tinder are going to like the guy who acts like the abusive father that their father wasn't around to be, kek.

If a quarter of young men are as retarded as OP, I deeply fear for what the future may bring.

>>33884672
>Second, if you were given the choice between fucking the hottest girl you've ever seen and just a plain Jane, you would take the first one.
If Jane marries me, then I would go for Jane. I don't care about Stacy.

>>33884674
I like how you fags think that I only get matched by mentally ill females, they're a small minority. The absolute majority of females I sleep with are your average city girls who are in debt, use a shit ton of makeup, and want to have a family someday with a disney prince.

>>33884693
No one's going on Tinder to get married.

>>33884600
>Absolute sociopaths

That guy just wants to fuck, so he goes to a place people seek out to find a fuck and is apparently honest about what he wants and intends. I fail to see whats sociopathic abotu that.
If you just pile on sex partners and fuck crazies you've got issues imo, but thats besides the point.

>>33884659
Because tinder isn't real, and unless you either have great pictures, a god face and a gym bod or no no standards at all you're not going to pull from it, period.

>>33884720
>mentally ill females, they're a small minority.
>in debt, use a shit ton of makeup, and want to have a family someday with a disney prince.

Lol
No sane , normal woman is on Tinder in the current year +5. Theres reasons they have to resort to internet dating , just as you have to acquire new partners nonstop for some reason instead of getting a few stable FWBs and having your needs met there.

>>33884248
>1132
>still no response
Yeah they got nothing on the "your dumb study says its all poor retards" point lol. Well played anon.

>>33884721
>>33884722
>>33884730
The internet is how you meet people nowadays. Are you guys boomers or what?

>>33884753
That mentality is exactly why zoomers are the most autistic and have the least sex out of any generation.

>>33884765
Okay, then, mr.expert tell me where do you meet girls?

>>33884777

NTA Friends of friends would be at the top, closely followed by house parties and the like, then clubs and bars if you look good, through work or uni alternatively. Mid tier is hobby groups and sports and random happenstance of chicks hitting on you out of the blue like a girl asking for a lighter while you wait at a bus stop at 2 AM at night.

>>33884788
>random happenstance of chicks hitting on you out of the blue like a girl asking for a lighter while you wait at a bus stop at 2 AM at night.
literally never happens, a pure fantasy.

>>33884798
Happened to me just two weeks ago. You're just mid, thats okay but no need to cope. I resent the fact that I'm not a tallfag and only have the face not the height , we all have some issues.

>>33884753
It is, if you're an asocial retard. You can still meet girls at work, or a customer, or even a grandma may think you're cute and will ask you if you're single to date her granddaughter.

>>33884857
>>33884876
The USA isn't some eastern european slavshit country.
fuck off.

>>33884886
Apparently the US an antisocial shithole where you can't have basic social contacts outside the internet.
Pretty weird when you americans always make so much noise around being more "outgoing" and "friendly" than Europeans. And I'm from Germany, according to you downright autistic compared to always mingling , chatty americans. So what is it?