Would a hippo or a polar bear win in a fight?

>>4997173 (OP)
The hippo and its not even close.
Always remember that in 99% of cases, the heavier animal is going to win

>>4997175
is the hippo the single best predator in the animal kingdom?

It honestly seems like nothing comes close to comparing

>>4997178
Not a predator, but it is for sure number 3 in the land animal power scale. Only beaten by the rhino and the elephant

>>4997183
the elephant is a pussy compared to the hippo. it is not an attack animal

>>4997175
I didagree.

>>4997189
There's plenty of clips of elephants beating the shit out of rhinos. The elephants head literally almost thr size of the rhino.

Humans > African elephant >>>>>>........> any extant land species

>>4997189
>>4997191
>inb4 hippo not a rhino you fucking retard
In fairness to me I didn't have my reading glasses on. Point still stands. The elephant would smash the hippo on land. In the water, which the elephant wouldn't go, the hippo would just bite the shit out of the elephants legs until it walked away.

>>4997173 (OP)
Who the fuck thinks anything short of a rhino or an elephant could take on a hippo? And even the rhino is at a disadvantage here.

>>4997189

>>4997195
>In the water, which the elephant wouldn't go, the hippo would just bite the shit out of the elephants legs until it walked away.

You cannot be this fucking stupid. Here are elephants going for a swim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKaHQ7vUrtg

Here is an elephant wading into a hippo infested river without giving a single fuck as every hippo gets the fuck out of the way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOMFxpeNuBY

Are you one of those Americans who thinks he could win a fight with a grizzly bear?

>>4997190
People not understanding the concept of exceptions to rules is a sign of low intelect

>>4997189
I can tell you know nothing about elephants

>>4997210
a rhino can take on a hippo?

>>4997173 (OP)
Bear has sharp claws that can rip through the hippo's armored hide.

>>4997249
Hippo doesn't have armored hide. It's tough and leathery, but not nearly as armor-like as a rhino's.
But it is very fat-packed and cuts won't bother the hippo as much as some other animals. Though it is comparable to the blubbery meat of a walrus, and sometimes a grown walrus can fight off a polar bear. The hippo is a nightmare for a polar bear, it's like if the walrus was more mobile and had four tusks that can apply hundreds of times more stabbing pressure sinc eit's a bite, rather than just a thrust.

>>4997248
Yes, their horn is specially useful against the hippo's jaws since it can't bite it without stabbing itself

>>4997251
>sometimes a grown walrus can fight off a polar bear
>sometimes
More like nearly always. Walruses are basically perfectly evolved to beat the shit out of a polar bear

>>4997254
In before someone posts a video of a polar bear killing a walrus as if you said it never happens

>>4997251
>and sometimes a grown walrus can fight off a polar bear
Yeah, just like moose can sometimes fight off wolves

>>4997261
Jesus christ they are fucking huge

>>4997178
>is the hippo the single best predator in the animal kingdom?
Hippos aren't orcas, no. But I don't see how this is relevant to the discussion?

>>4997223
But that anon is right, predators routinely take down larger prey items than themselves because they are pound-for-pound stronger than the prey. That said a hippo is going to grease a polar bear, there’s nothing the bear could even do to fatally wound the hippo.

>>4997316
Predators go for weak, sickly, immature individuals and usually in ambushes rather than head on confrontations. A bear is not exchanging blows with a moose upfront because it knows it will get mangled.

>>4997261
Fuarkk walruses are huge

>>4997189
>the elephant is a pussy compared to the hippo. it is not an attack anim-ACK

>>4997327
It's because it's not worth the risk. Animals don't get a second chance and even if they do win a fight they can still die from the injuries. This is why bears avoid moose. It's more nuanced than what you are claiming here, they they are certain that they will get mangled. That's not true. A bear could probably take on a moose, with probably being the keyword here. They avoid fights because they don't like probably.

>>4997395
It's also because the larger animal will kill smaller one in an upfront slugfestso the smaller animal gets crafty.
Predators usually take on larger animals by out maneuvering them, look at how Lions hunt Buffalo, they always try to position themselves where the other animal can't retaliate and target their weak points. It's not a situation where the predators just overpowers them head on, in those cases the Buffalo would just break their bones and kill them once they are crippled.
And a Bear will get its ass torn from a bull moose if it tries to fight it head on for the same reason. If it fights smarter or targets a more vulnerable individual its chances of winning increase substantially.

>>4997261
polar bear looks like a housecat compared to that behemoth

>>4997189
>the elephant is a pussy compared to the hip-
*flips you*

>>4997546
>rolls to absorb damage
>emerges unharmed, but 100x more pissed and deadly

>>4997550
The elephant can literally stomp on the little shit what are you talking about

>>4997173 (OP)
Everyone is underestimating the polar bear's incredible strength. It could just grab the hippo's upper and lower jaws and pull the head apart.

>>4997586
>this
the bear wins 100% just have humans teach it kung fu from a young age

>>4997592
is this real

>>4997189
>the elephant is a pussy compared to the hippo. it is not an attack animal

>>4997660
That's a baby not an adult bull.

>>4997173 (OP)
whoever wins... we lose...

>>4997598
yeah, the bear fought my ma the other day

>>4997261
What the fuck. That has to be a young and/or female polar bear and a large bull walrus right?

>>4997802
Probably, but even a fully grown male polar would be mogged by a fully grown bull walrus.

>>4997261
walruses have to kill each other all the time with those tusks right? even if just by accident.

>>4997189
>the elephant is a pussy

The hippo would win but only because they fucking shit everywhere and would cover the polar bear in toxic shit water and probably cause it to die of an infection hippos are the Indians of large water mammals

>>4997586
No it couldn't. The hippo has a whole 1000kg more of strength

>>4997993
You might weigh twice as much as me but if I grab your upper and lower jaws and wrench you're going down.

>>4997802
A walrus skin alone weighs about as much as the average polar bear. The biggest walruses are 2.5x the size of the biggest polar bears

>>4997937
>annihilates a small village every time it has a hormonal sperg out
Why would nature do this

>>4998261
incelephant

>>4998261
Don't they calm down when there's an older male nearby. Fatherless behavior.

But what can a hippo or an elephant actually do, though?

>>4997189
Found the hippo.

>>4998288
This, the bear's superior agility would make quick work of the fat bastards

>>4998489
Hippos are just a mouth with legs. It isn't even about agility. All a polar bear has to do is get its teeth in the hippo's anus and rip out its innards from there. That's how most predation works. There's no kung fu involved the bear will run up to the hippo and rip its stomach out through its asshole. Why do weight fags always make such retarded arguments? Did you never see a nature documentary? Which is heavier a leopard or a wildebeest? Fat Boy weighed 4 tons vs all of Japan who won dipshit.

>>4998497
That last example is unbelievably retarded

>>4997190
aee didagree saar
>exception to the rule

why are you retards like this

>>4997551
>elephant raises it’s leg to perform a stomp
>hippo backs off until it finishes it’s slam, then moves back in to continue biting
What now?

>>4998166
And elephant seals are several times that. People don’t seem to get how big pinnipeds are.

>>4997178
Do we have to start bringing sea animals in to make it a challenge?

Like hippo vs. orca whale.

>>4997175
Cheetahs can do something called the "fireman's carry" which allows them to take down even large elephants!

>>5000512
The Orca would win, they can kill elephant seals larger than a Hippo. The adult male seals that survive orca predation at most escape onto land and usually die from the wounds.

>>5000512
On land it's an easy victory for the hippo. Literally nothing the whale could do.

>>4997173 (OP)
Hippo easily

>>4997178
Hippos are bad predators. They are good predator deterrents, the deterrent being violent death. Which is why the hippo beats a polar bear any day.

>>5000514
yeah right

>>5000546
>if the whale was immobile the Hippo would win
Impressive..

>>5000546
Alright, human vs whale on land, but there's a catch. You only have 10 minutes to kill the whale with your bare hands, so you can't just wait until it suffocates under it's own weight or some shit

>>5000546
>On land it's an easy victory for the hippo. Literally nothing the whale could d-ACK

>>5000815
>bare hands
That’s like saying “crocodile vs zebra but the crocodiles jaws are tied shut”

>>4997189
doesnt need to be an attack animal when it weighs 7 tonnes

>>5000815
I'm pretty sure within 10 minutes the whale would suffocate from not being in water so long.

>>4997175
>Watching documentary with friends.
>Hormonal male Elephant seal goes to Sea lion colony and starts killing sea lion pups.
>Male Sea lion comes in to stop him.
>We all think he's gonna get his shit pushed in since he's literally half it's size.
>Actually goes head to head with the Elephant Seal and eventually pushes him out of the colony.
It was at this point I realized that powerscaling animals by weight is retarded. Yes, weight is a good indicator since by default larger animals will dominate over smaller ones as taking an uphill battle isn't imperative to the latter's survival. But if you put actual stakes on the line like food or offspring, the answer isn't as clear-cut as it seems.

>>4997189

>square up to rhino
>evade rhino charge
>roll rhino
>pin rhino to the ground while inserting husk

https://youtu.be/2XcWlIPOLis

>>5000889
The thing is, most people structure these stupid debates as if the animals are fighting to the death. In which case the elephant seal would have fucked up that sea lion

>>5000829
Yes, that would be an interesting fight. No spears for you, naked monkey

>>5000893
this elephant has a massive boner the entire time its goring the shit out of the rhino lol

>>5000889
intimidation. it's always about intimidation. anything below the size of an elephant (who know they are the top dogs in whatever environment they are in and act accordingly) you can most likely bluff against

>>5001390
when they go on heat male elephants just become crazy motherfuckers. the hormones turn them into killing machines.

>>5001390
A lot of animals are hard while they fight. Makes me wonder if people get erections when they fight too

>>4997261
>walruses appear 2-3x the size of the bear despite being like 30 ft behind it
Insanity

>>5001816
Yes, we do. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.

>>4997173 (OP)
Can the polar bear even slice through hippo skin?

>>5001816
You don't?

>>4997592
The early days of the internet when every drop of content when viral.

>>4997173 (OP)
Considering the Apex of both species, the Hippo would win.
The weight alone would be a difficult wall for the Bear, the avarage is around 450kg for the bear, with the heaviest registered being 1 Ton, meanwhile the Hippo on avarage weight 1.5 Ton, with the heaviest registered that weighted above 2 Ton and the heaviest known (but unconfirmed) was one that weighted above 3 Ton.
Then it comes the skin, 6cm thick for the hippo, the avarage lenght for bear claw is 7,5cm with some that measured even 10cm, it would make some damage since they don't have a fat layer, but nothing that would be really fatal (they fight against crocodile which have nearly 13cm long teeth), the bear teeth do not matter, they are 4-5cm long, they would scar the skin but not penetrate it. On the opposite side you have the Hippo canine and incisors which can be nearly 50cm long, even tho the Bear have quite the "armor" (5cm very dense coat, 10cm thick skin, up to 12cm thick fat layer), they would make some nasty damage, creating hole in it without much effort.
For last there is the Hippo mounth, they have a very large mounth which can embrace the whole polar bear head, the strenght (up to 2000 PSI) would be able to crush most of their bones or make some major crack in their skull.

>>4997175
>>5001994
>>4997802
>>4998166
>>5002332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob_oD1IsYbE
Polar bears CAN win against bull walruses. It's just a death by a thousand cuts sort of thing.

>>5002385
>walrus is the size of the bear if not slightly smaller
Methinks that’s not an adult male walrus

>>5000492
Speaking of pinnipeds and polar bears, it used to be a trend to embellish polar bear rugs/ skeletons/ other trophies with large sea lion (usually Steller) skulls because they looked larger and more intimidating to casual observers than a natural polar bear skull.

>>4997261
>the greatest land carnivore alive looks like a labrador compared to a walrus
Actually unsettling how massive that thing is

>>4997173 (OP)
>bigger mouth
>teeth longer than the polar bear's skull
>thicker skin
>more mass (literally all muscle, hippos barely have any fat on them)
>more aggressive
It's a genuine mogging, the only animals that can fuck with a hippo and get away with it are elephants

>>4997173 (OP)
Love these threads.

>>5002385
That must be a huge bear and a small walrus

>>4997175
But the polar bear has claws and sharp teeth!

>>5002511
>>5003263
Look at the OP image and tell me that walrus is smaller than the hippo.