What do you think of police using K-9 units?

>>4998630 (OP)
At first I was glad that they mostly get undesirables off the streets but then I considered that it might happen to me due to an administrative mistake or just shoddy training, looked up their training, and was horrified

Abusing dogs like that is not worth biting black people
Just have the cops bite them their damn selves

>>4998630 (OP)
I used to work with a felon from Mexico city. He fled from the police multiple times and said to just give up running when the dogs come out cause it's over. I watched him use a cordless dremel and key blank to make a key that opened my old shitbox, from memory I didn't show him my key, so I know he was legit.

K9s are useful drug sniffing and there is currently no machine that can do what a dog does. Cops also love drug dogs because they can be trained to alert without actually having sniffed drugs to fabricate probable cause for a warrantless search. And you can't put a dog on the stand so they get away with it.

>>4998630 (OP)
Animal abuse. Grooming animals to be violent and bloodthirsty is cruelty to both humans and animals

>>4999611
It's also to give officers the free "out" to attack completely non-violent subjects and although it's rarely talked about - police dogs are a threat for life (I know of two cases of a police dog actually mauling their neighbours' child to death which was kept pretty quiet)

If police want to attack people they should just do it themselves

>>4998643
>Cops also love drug dogs because they can be trained to alert without actually having sniffed drugs to fabricate probable cause for a warrantless search. And you can't put a dog on the stand so they get away with it.
which is kind of a dumb loophole. either have probabale cause or don't, but having a cheatcode that just lets you completely ignore it is ridicolous

>>4998630 (OP)
It's insane how they're legally treated like human cops. Like if a dog starts mauling you and you fight back and it dies you can pull first degree for that.

When minorities see the dog they're genetically more likely to surrender because the fear that has been ingrained and passed through DNA. Which is why cats are a better pet because they weren't use on us by white people for evil.

>>5000205
>Which is why cats are a better pet because they weren't use on us by white people for evil.
Do they really not have trained hounds that the police use in the third world? I somehow doubt that.

>>5000205
After reading this post, I dropped my cat off at a shelter and bought a $50 german shepsky off craigslist.

>>5000222
>Black people love to neglect pitbulls in their backyard, therefore it is the cooperative high IQ eurasian animal that is african
You know the cat? That animal domesticated in africa, by africans? The one that spreads disease, attacks things for no reason, fucks prolifically, and is incapable of forming anything but a family? That doesn't actually have any function whatsoever?

Yeah. No amount of pitbulls can make up for that 10,000 year mistake. If only aryans actually ruled egypt, we could have had cheetahs instead.

>>5000225
>anything but a family
*anything like a family

Male cats kill their kittens lol
Never had a dog father do that, but I don't waste my time on pitbulls/"german" shepherds

>>4998630 (OP)
It bothers me a lot that police act like shooting a dog is no big deal but will go insane if a criminal so much as kicks a K9. Even though the purpose of those dogs is to be put into violent situations and bite.

>>4998630 (OP)
It's cruel to dogs and also "drug dogs" are a bullshit way to violate people's rights. Just as much as saying "I smell weed, I smell alcohol."

>>4998630 (OP)
The dogs have fun
the crims are scared of them and will surrender if they even hear the barking
the term K-9 is cute
seems fine to me

>>4998630 (OP)
Kawaii!

>>4998640
>Abusing dogs is not worth biting black people
It is. Dogs are animals and thus exist to serve the needs of humans. Also, what exactly would you expect to take their place? Are humans supposed to take up the job of biting black people?

>>5000646
>Are humans supposed to take up the job of biting black people?
Pretty sure black women will do it if a White man is holding the leash.

>>5000205
>tranny janny consolewar post

>>5000272
>t. Stoned Driving Alcoholic

>>5000646
We don't need to abuse dogs into becoming lifelong mauling risks. We have guns.

>What would you expect to take their place?
A more peaceful and clean society. We won't need attack dogs where we're going.

>>5000658
You don't abuse dogs into becoming lifelong mauling risks. You specifically train dogs to maul people because you plan to employ them in the position of people-mauler. One is deliberate, the other is not. Don't be obtuse. Just as you would expect a soldier or a police officer to be nominally more likely to exert force on a criminal than an untrained civilian because its their job, you can expect a police dog to be nominally more likely to exert force on a criminal because its their job. The fact that they're an animal and don't know the difference between a criminal and a random brown person is immaterial - we train third worlders and bring them into our country knowing they're likely to perform criminal acts, but we allow it because they're economically useful. Its no different with the police dog.

>A more peaceful and clean society
After two or three hard rounds of eugenics maybe. Won't be happening any time soon. Do you even live on the same planet that I do? Things have been going steadily downhill since before any of us were even born, Anon. There's not going to be any 'peaceful' or 'clean' to be had in this society.

>>5000646
>Dogs are animals and thus exist to serve the needs of humans.
Animals exist because they exist; not because Genesis told you that daggum humans gots dominion over the Earth.

>>5000666
Humans have dominion over the Earth, whether God says so or not. Until there's a race on this planet capable of removing humanity as global hegemon and permanent alpha atop the food chain, this is de-facto truth, regardless of how anybody feels about it.

Your argument essentially boils down to 'something something morals something something rights' and has no basis in reality. We own animals because they can't stop us from doing so. In the alternate universe where they try, they'll just be exterminated as a threat to humanity and replaced with a more domesticatable animal. Call me when dogs develop nuclear weapons and we'll talk.

>>5000091
>cops bullshitting their way around laws
woaaaah

>>5000240
Cops can shoot your dog because your dog is not a cop. If you kick a police dog it's kicking a cop. It is very clear within their logical system.

>>5000676
>Not understanding basic hierarchy has more than two positions
Its actually very simple. It goes like this.

>Police Officer (Human)
>Police Officer (Dog)
>Random Citizen (White)
>Random Citizen (Brown)
>Bicyclists and Skateboarders

>>5000664
Have you seen how K9s are trained? They are abused. Harshly. Their entire point is to be so neurotic they can be abused harshly and perform at their apex, driven by intense fear and intense hunger for validation. They are insane from birth. Their very existence is borderline abusive. And then they are choked, shocked, smacked, and locked in tiny boxes for 2 years before they're locked in a box in a cruiser and occasionally, they get to bite a negro.

I don't care about your stupid species dominance philosophy. I care about shit that just makes sense, and abusing dogs to do what shouldn't have to be done is a step too far. Most of them are just being chased down for being dumb with weed and when they come out they're in a gang.

>>5000712
truly, we should be giving our african american friends more weed and encouraging them to be friends with dogs, not taking their weed away and making them afraid of dogs.

>>5000712
I have a police dog line puppy. She is quite neuritic and bitey. She lives for flyball but I have to make sure she doesn't run herself to death. Very driven dogs.

>>5000712
My parents were friends with a guy that trained police dogs and I got to watch him train some. He'd stomp on a leash to yank the fuck out of the puppy's neck even though it was just sitting there doing nothing.

>>5000742
I'm not a libshit nigger lover but cops are so commonly just complete pieces of shit

any time they alert and find nothing it should be logged. after 3 false alerts they retire the dog.

I doubt I'll get any good replies, but I'm curious if anyone has any good resources for learning more about dogs used in law enforcement outside of the usual reasons. I've been looking into the anti-poaching K9 units used in SA and it's an innovative use for them in a very difficult and chaotic area of crime-fighting.

>>4998630 (OP)
Better noses to find contraband or humans.
Fast and agile. There are no K-9s who ate too many donuts.
Intimidating. Scaring the suspect into giving up without resisting is the best case scenario.

>>4998630 (OP)
i think we shouldnt have them, we should instead breed terrestrial crocodiles for this purpose instead, theyll have significantly less upkeep than dog and be larger and more dangerous to criminals
>but muh police brutality
maybe they shouldve thought of that before committing crime; if they die, they die

>>5000673
kys pityfag

>>5000712
>Their entire point is to be so neurotic they can be abused harshly and perform at their apex, driven by intense fear and intense hunger for validation.
Sounds like any celebrity or other human in power.

>>5000712
>Most of them are just being chased down for being dumb with weed and when they come out they're in a gang.
>waaaaahhhhh stop oppressing minorities waaaahhhhhhh
I'd tell you to go eat a dick, but there's no way you would take that as an insult.

>>5000907
I'm just against animal abuse man. If you abuse animals they get neurotic, violent, and somehow end up wanting more things that they deserve necessitating further abuse. Police attack dogs are animal abuse from start to finish.

Maybe we should alter the law somewhat in order to provide african americans with an endless supply of cheap weed, instead of using attack dogs on them for having a dime bag. Then we can finally stop breeding landsharks and switch police dogs to friendly huskies with a nose for crack cocaine.

>>5000926
I live in a state with government weed, nothing changes except those dispensaries become the targets of crime, because it turns out addicts will do crime to feed their addictions

>>5000849
How fast do crocodiles run? That will be a major limiting factor.

>>5001044
so do i and there’s not much weed crime. weed was a nothingburger.

then again
>90%+ white

>>4998630 (OP)
Depends on the cops I suppose. In general I think they're used to augment arbitrary searches, something that has never concerned me personally, yet. Indeed, I have never seen a K-9 unit in person, ever

>>5000205
>cats are a better pet because they weren't use on us by white people for evil
>weren't use on us by white people
>on us

>>4998643
It's more often that the cops just lie that the dog alerted, or they continuously tell the dog to check the same area until the dog barks at them for being dumb then they claim that was the alert.

>>4999628
Post the article, we should not keep this hush

>>5000205
>we wuz kangs

>>4999628
Was it any of these?
https://youtu.be/7M2d9Kc7zy4?si=x5DHZB7kskaM4teI
https://www.abc57.com/news/child-attacked-by-off-duty-pulaski-county-k-9
https://www.kktv.com/2024/08/14/off-duty-sheriffs-office-k9-attacked-child-man-castle-rock/
There are many more btw...

>>4998630 (OP)
>giving dogs a job
cool and fine
>drug, cadaver, gunpowder etc scenting dogs
awesome
>mantrackers
cool!
>using dogs to subjugate
cringe.
there have been an insane number of cases of K-9 dogs biting their handlers because their handlers are fucking retarded. or K-9 handlers allowing their dogs to attack already subdued suspects. using dogs to subdue suspects is a needless risk, especially if the handlers are fucking retarded (which they are because cops are fucking retarded by virtue of being cops).
K-9 dogs aren't PPDs. PPD trainers are 1000x more competent, and actually ensure that the handlers are just as well trained to ensure as few accidents occur as possible. K-9 handlers aren't given training like that. and if they are, then they're just lobotomites because how the fuck do they manage to fuck it up so godamn much? we have guns & tasers now. if a fatass pig can't keep up with a suspect on foot then maybe they shouldn't be a cop.

>>5001201
Maybe y'all should be held accountable for your actions :^)

>yeah the dogs get abused...but they get to bite NIGGERS so le heckin based!!!!!!!
more and more by the day, this board gets infested with "people" that like neither animals nor nature

>>5001219
Yes of course, the child 50ft to the right of a fleeing suspect should be held accountable for being in the general vicinity, you're so right!
Unrelated, but does leather taste better than suede? I figure you're the best person to ask.

>>5001068
easy 20mph, but theyre not super adapted to land
or you can get monitor lizards i guess

>>post number
>out of context simplification of their opinion that no one actually has
[obvious rebuttal to strawman followed by mockery]
god at least post an image or two to make this thread worth scrolling. anyway we should have police kots

>>4998630 (OP)
I think it's some fucked up shit that if you shoot a police dog you go down for murder but if the police shoot your dog it's considered destruction of property

>>5001428
I am talking about holding the sherriffs accountable. If they are considered actual sherriffs, then you can twist the headline as sherriff attacks the neighbor kid while off duty. There is nothing fake or false about the statement

>>5001428
See
>>5001191

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>>5001428
>off duty
>in pursuit of a suspect
>suspect running is the neighbor child because an attack dog(sherriff) is after him (just doing his job off duty)
What are your thoughts officer?

Very pro K9. They can sniff out bombs and drugs, track or at least locate hiding criminals, can bite and hold fleeing or resisting suspects, and can be sent into potentially dangerous situations you want to avoid sending humans into preventing human casualties. They’re generally very useful tools for military work and law enforcement. There are a lot of nuances that get lost on people regarding these dogs though. They have their own strengths and weaknesses, training is something that needs to be kept up regularly, they don’t have the human brain capable of discriminating between good and bad a lot of times, and when mistakes are made with them it usually results in a hefty lawsuit, maimed civilian, or dead dog.

When I was in Afghanistan we had two dogs. One was very good at sniffing but sucked at interdiction. The other was all interdiction and okay at sniffing. The latter got the most work because he had more utility but we always felt safer with the other dog. During an MLAT prior to deployment we did a squirter interdiction exercise (bad guy runs out the back door) and some retarded Ranger private was too far forward in the formation resulting in his tricep getting torn out by that same 75 lbs interdiction dog because then he just beelined it to the nearest thing with a pulse instead of doing the 100 yard cast out to the guy in a bite suit. Thats the price to be paid for it finding multiple IEDs, chewing up multiple terrorists that didn’t want to come out of their shit walled compounds, and shutting up a whole bunch of otherwise resistant detainees. New ranger privates cycle in and out all the time. Good dogs are harder to find.
>>5001882
NTA but sounds like criminal negligence on the handlers part. These things shouldn’t be pets. They should be kept at the station between patrols. It’s a working animal not a pet.

>>5001931
"Can" doesn't mean "will" or "does consistently"

Most uses of K9s outside of the military are excessive and unjustified. How can americans really think attack dogs are worth it to jail people for weed when 5 miles away everyone is smoking a joint at once?

>>5001201
>There has been an insane number of K9 handlers bit
Most rookie handlers have the dog come up the leash and it’s pretty much always their fault. Common noob shit. There’s a discussion to be had about the quality of training you’re going to find on the average department level across literally hundreds of thousands of police stations around the world but it is what it is. Every job has retards and washouts. Not much you can do but wash them out.
>K9 handlers allowing their dogs to attack subdued suspects
Civil liability and often leads to termination see the retard that put his dog on the jogger fleeing in a semi over a mudflap ticket.
>Using dogs to subdue is a needless risk
Bullshit. There are a ton of situations where sending a much faster animal to quickly subdue a fleeing suspect or to locate and subdue a hiding suspect is preferable to sending in a human.
>K9s aren’t PPDs
Correct PPDs have a much lower standard of training.
>PPD trainers are 1000x more competent
Kek holy shit no. Do you even know what a PPD is? A PPD is literally any dog you can send on a 30 yard cast or be used for area denial up to the end of a leash or yard. Thats it. It’s achieved with basic obedience, frustration and basic sleeve work, and teaching a good out. It’s literally entry level. It’s also much more geared towards defensive drive which is what civilians want vs prey drive which an interdiction K9 needs.
>They ensure the handlers are trained
Yeah that’s 40k for the dog, my assistant is going to give you a demo on what commands he knows, and have a nice life. Fuck off with this retarded scam shit.
>K9 handlers aren’t given training like that
Yes they are and they’re required to train the dogs regularly and requalify at varying intervals. They also carry specific tools like a bite stick to pry off a dog that won’t let go on command.

>>5001201
Cont’d
>How do they manage to fuck it up so bad?
Gee retard I dunno. Let’s see you have an amped up, highly prey driven animal, thrown into a chaotic environment with screaming irrational overly emotional blacks hopped up on crack screeching about shit an animal can’t understand, dudes popping patrol car doors left and right to grab shit so they can subdue or try to save the life of some fucktard that just wrecked a stolen car, and yet still somehow 99% of K9 deployments result in nobody but the suspect getting bit. Ain’t the dogs fault if a retard pops the door to a cruiser and lets out the dog which is automatically going to do its job. Ain’t the dogs fault when his retard handler tells him to bite the wrong guy. Ain’t the dogs fault when the retard handler long leashes it on a track and it bites some homeless bitch sleeping behind a dumpster. It’s almost always human error. Sometimes the human error is avoidable. Sometimes not.
>We have tasers and guns now!
Tasers fail all the fucking time and you can’t shoot a fleeing suspect in the back retard. Even if you could you would bitch about that. Funny thing is there are way less incidents with K9s per capita than there are negligent discharges or bad shoots. God you’re an insufferable faggot.

>>5001933
Very few people bother to run for weed faggot it’s usually a ticket or diversion and you fuck off about your day if that since weed is legal in a majority of states now. It’s almost always a stolen car, fleeing from a warrant, narcotics, or some other felony.

>>5000766
Conservation and mil porn mostly. It’s an easy way to address short staffing. If you have ten park rangers to patrol X acres of land and they’re going up against armed criminals facing absurdly long jail sentences in ghoulish 3rd world prisons or in some cases the death penalty and they may need to track them from a kill site. SAs K9 scene is wild. A lot of their police forces don’t have access to mals and shepherds so they just use Boerboels and shit for single purpose interdiction dogs or blood and coonhounds for scent trailing. Look into the Park Rangers that brought in malinois to handle all the grow ops on public land. They were averaging some insane rates like a bite per week per dog because it was a similar situation as the poaching dogs.
>Go on patrol
>Use dog to find grow ops
>Theres always one or two guys minding the grow op
>Chase down one guy and send the dog after the other when they run
Extremely effective technique.

>>5000712
>Theyre abused!
You play tug of war with the bite sleeve, then move to table work teasing them with their new favorite toy, then you start wearing the sleeve, then you move to a whole suit and substitute the sleeve or suit with a ball or rope toy as a reward. No part of this is abuse.
>B-but they hit them with whips and sticks!
The whip is only used to create sound to desensitize the animal to loud noises such as gun fire and the stick is literally rubber or foam and lightly patted on the dogs side to get it desensitized to being hit without actually hurting the dog. You're a retard.
>Theyre driven by fear!
No that’s defensive drive. That’s what you look for in a PPD style guard dog. K9s are bred for prey drive.
>Hunger for validation!
Hunger for their favorite toy. My brothers lab won’t leave me alone until I throw his rope toy for ten minutes every time I visit is he abused?
>They are insane from birth!
You sound like an absolute pussy. Mals have a genetic issue with rage but that’s largely being bred out of working lines. Plenty of backyard breeders buying into it unwittingly since they’ve gotten popular as pets for retards that want a K9 without wanting to train one.
>Their very existence is borderline abusive!
Nigga what?
>They are choked!
No
>Shocked
I have never seen a single K9 use an ecollar. That’s more of a bird dog and hound dog thing.
>Smacked
With a rubber stick. Smack yourself in the face with your bad dragon right now.
>Locked in tiny boxes
I love how every faggot on here is so into crate training to make sure a dog doesn’t shit on the carpet and “make them feel safe” but when a police dog goes in one it’s cruelty.
>Its just weed
Why is it that every faggot that got put on diversion 20 years ago cannot fucking move on with their lives or take accountability and has to super impose their minor infractions onto actual hardened violent criminals? Are you really that fucking soft that a ticket scarred you?

>>5000666
Jewish thoughts, jewish digits.

>>5001940
so you agree that having K-9 dogs is a stupid idea because cops are fucking retards?

>>5000093
>25 years for murdering German shepherd
Bruh this is hard to believe

>>5001068
I don't know about crocs, but gators run pretty fast in a straight line. They can't turn for shit though so if you're being chased by one it's best to run at an angle from them.

>>4998630 (OP)
They're great when used in roles they're suited for with oversight (non-existent). In practice I think they're mostly used to circumvent probable cause for shake downs and making quotas.

I don't care for it unless it's extreme circumstances

They use fake hits to do warrantless searches on people

>>4998630 (OP)
It's a good thing, dogs were bred to work
worst you can do to a dog is keeping him as a pet
and all pet breeds must be culled

>>5000770
I have never seen a k9 unit in person, but I detest the very idea, except for when it comes to detecting explosives in airports. Fly safely.

>>5003138
Dogs were domesticated as companions and work was incidental, because any large animal will kill smaller animals and chase off intruders.

The idea of the working dog is as new, unnatural, and abhorrent as the idea of the commuting wage worker. Traditionally people worked on their own land to support themselves and their family. Working dogs are basically communism
>inb4 no its capitalism
Capitalism is the embryonic stage of communism, before "vote with your wallet" proves to be nonfunctional and corporations merge with the state to form the party's means of redistributing wealth and achieving real communism.

>>5003138
do you think cavemen had a master plan and a deep philosophy here or did they just feed the friendly wolves because they're cute and cuddling with your wolf friend is comfy? even wild wolves are pretty tame and friendly if you raise them from pups.

i mean cats "were domesticated to control rodents!" but since they're more recent in history, and they don't actually control rodents, that can be clearly identified as an after the fact lie. cats were domesticated because they are cute and friendly, and people like them. even wild cats are pretty tame and friendly if you raise them from kittens. maybe in another 30,000 years, some retards will deform them sufficiently to create an actual purpose bred neurotic ratting cat. that would put them on the same time scale as dogs. 10k years to friends, 40k years to pointless slaves.

>>5002756
I think allowing the internet is a stupid idea because people are fucking retards.

>>5002502
>denying jew god is jewish
Oy vey.

>>5001933
you ever consider not doing crime, how to not get mauled with this one simple, easy trick
https://youtu.be/uj0mtxXEGE8?si=Bf7VGWpgB5XuSVf7

>>4998643
>He fled from the police multiple times and said to just give up running when the dogs come out cause it's over.
It is literally impossible to outrun a dog in most instances. German shepards run at 30 miles per hour. Usaine Bolt, the literal fastest human ever known to exist, topped out at 27 miles per hour. Most people are far slower, I think they only run at 10 miles per hour. Without some kind of obstacle that mitigates dogs but not humans, or a comparison between the slowest dogs and fastest people, it simply can’t be done.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-fastest-dog-breeds-in-the-world.html

>>5003195
Wow, the 'related' section below the article trails off into random stuff pretty quickly.
>serial killers in the UK?

>>5003176
Police drag people out of their cars and go out if their way to piss them off and detain them for up to 3 days because they have tiny dicks

They also shoot your dog upon entering your property. Blue lives matter!

2 months ago, I saw a cop swerve into a cat, stop traffic, get out of his car, and kick the dying cat to the side of the road, and act out some fake grief before continuing on.

>>5003195
>5. Jack Russell Terrier - 38 mph
Don't they have stubby ass legs? Terriers are fuggin' scary.

I think it's retarded. Everyone knows they hit 100% of the time to search cars because they're being guided by their owner, and putting the dog in charge of chasing down a (presumable) dangerous (alleged) criminal and then pretending the dog is a "police officer" is unfair to both the dog and person. Nobody with a brain would just resign themselves to being bitten up by an 80lb animal. On another note we should also just get rid of the police and then we can finally do something about the common american pavement ape and the invasive shit eating monkey.

>/an/, one of the most autistic boards on this entire website is apparently completely infested with cops
wew lad

>>5003221
They’re only scary to rats, and even then they’re still inept. I’ve caught more rats and mice than my terrier has.

>>5003252
Hey they need someone to love them

>>4998630 (OP)
I worked as a kennel hand for my state's police, and while I was there one of their dogs bit the testicles off a man who was attempting an armed robbery. Another one chased a guy under a house, grabbed him by his arm, pulled it so hard it snapped, and dragged him out.

>>5004122
Good doggos.

they're so....so......mmmmmfghhh;;;;,,,,

>>4998630 (OP)
Kill all dogs and cops.

>>5000217
> $50 german shepsky
Based

>>5003252
They should make a low IQ wife beater board. Then the cops can talk a out whatever they want.

>>5003219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrHL2URBXWk

>>5007609
If some dumbfuck cop ever kills my dog because he's a subhuman idiot i'm getting as many molotovs into as many cruisers, precincts, and training facilities as possible

I feel like K-9s must be some sort of money laundering arrangement, because even in small towns you'll see cruisers driving around with them, but they never seem to actually do anything outside of occasional "bite suit" demonstrations at elementary schools.
If you want to check for drugs or explosives, you bring in a beagle. If you want to find a corpse, get a bloodhound.

On top of this is the fact that basically all cops are incompetent retards who have no business handling a dog specifically bred and trained to rip black people apart. I remember taking my parents' old rat-dog to the vet a few years back, and several police cruisers pulled in. They brought out a GS who was completely limp, foaming at the mouth, and said they'd "forgotten" he was locked in the car while they were working some stupid 911 call.
On my way out with my parents' dog I asked the receptionist what that was about. She just rolled her eyes and said "not the first time".

"A well trained dog puts a nigger to shame"- Moon Man

I know a cop that did meth
Why is he still allowed to be a cop?
They are desperate for cops

>>5007793
I don't know how it is in the USA, but in Australia our GP dogs (attack dogs) are actually fairly effective and take down lots of perps. They do cause a fair amount of injuries though and dog squads have a higher rate of injury for both police and perps than any other part of the force. They're also very useful for intimidation, especially for certain cultural groups (apparently pacific islanders are super scared of them for whatever reason)
t: I'm this anon >>5004122

>>5008863
>attack dogs
Good you are using the correct term because that is exactly what they are.

>>5007607
funny and based

>>5007607
>>5009687
They will all gloat about drinking 8 beers and still remain sober
Nah nigga you just an alcoholic

>>5003252
I see more potheads than cops here.

>>5010035
Most, if not all cops are alcoholics so what is your point? You are no better

https://www.guardianrecovery.com/addiction-treatment/alcohol-abuse-addiction/facts-alcoholism-police-officers/#:~:text=Law%20Enforcement%20&%20Alcohol%20Use%20Statistics,impact%20their%20personal%20drinking%20habits.

>>5010082
>when they are not licking boots they are licking the last drop of booze

>>5010035
Pot is a based herb for aryan mystics
Alcohol is how peasants sterilize water and autistic people fool themselves into reproducing.

Learn the difference. It could stay your life.

>>5000673
You can talk like that when you've had sex, tubby.

>>5010218
Get therapy faggot :^)
I know that ptsd from being a cop constantly has you on edge.

>>5010082
It makes me so glad to learn that the class of brutish retards who were too dumb for even the army, who for some reason have access to firearms and animals literally trained to maim humans, who are so very rarely held accountable for abuses of power, are also drunk all the fucking time. Why don't we kill cops again?

>>5010292
WE dont have to, THEY are doing it to THEMSELVES because of their alcoholism

>>5010297
but they keep getting replaced by younger and dumber lobotomites. how do we stop the porky plague?

>>5010303
Ngl you are schizo af fr

>>5010303
Get therapy nigger ;^)

>>5010307
yea
>>5010310
cant. if i step one foot outside my house im 145x more likely to be shot by a power-tripping drunk pig in a uniform. :[

>>5010317
Sucks to be you kek

>>5000650
Can confirm, dated a black chick and could not believe how much she wanted me to abuse her. I mean she wanted me to bite her on her neck until I drew blood, choke her out until her eyes rolled into her head, slap her ass till it was purple...shit was fucking crazy dude. She never got to the point of asking for slaveplay shit, but it was close enough.

>>5010286
Weird projection, telling though.

>>5010355
>no you
Very mature officer

>>5010317
Lay off the pot. It's unironically sickening to see what i assume is a grown man acting like this much of a pathetic, self-pitying crybaby. Speaking in all honesty here.

>>5010586
No one mentioned pot, lay off the booze ;^)

>>5010586
In the US, if a cop walks into your home and your friendly dog goes "woo woo" at them, they WILL shoot it. It is department policy to assume it is actually a snarling wolfdog. Blue lives matter!

People HATE you for a reason. Cops are scum. Every single cop is scum. Departments purposefully hire dumb and low IQ applicants to fill officer positions. If someone scores too high on an intelligence test they reject and blacklist them.
You are not public servants.
You are a confused and directionless low IQ battalion of shock troops that were assembled for a race war between blacks and whites, and then ended up being used to also shoot innocent white people and their dogs in the name of demcoracy and equality.

>>5010660
>shoot innocent white people
WTF I LOVE THE COPS NOW (NO HOMO)

>>5010660
I'm in the US
I had two cops in my house last week, they both saw my dog, neither shot it, and we in fact talked about him for a bit

>>5010660
Police are the only reason blacks are protected in Western countries.

>>5010686
Must be nice to live in a 99% white area but where I live the cops are an aborted fascist paramilitary unit. It would be based, if they just oppressed everyone else, but equality means they have to treat everyone like a felon.

>>5010660
cops aren't allowed to just walk into a house

>>5010726
>cops aren't allowed to just walk into a house
>he thinks this
lol
https://lawandcrime.com/lawsuit/the-law-just-does-not-provide-a-remedy-court-dismisses-couples-lawsuit-with-prejudice-after-police-dispatched-to-wrong-address-fatally-shot-their-dog/
they can kick in your door, shoot your dog for doing its job, and look for someone to beat, cuff, shout at, and drag along the floor
at the wrong address
without consequences

whether or not the dog was attacking. the dog merely has to make them feel uncomfortable

but if you kick a police mutt for attacking you as an innocent bystander you just committed 5 felonies
and if you shot someones dog after opening their door, you would be UNDOUBTEDLY tried and given the maximum punishment for animal cruelty, as a dog moving towards you is not attacking you (unless you're a cop)

cops can shoot a drunk mentally ill man from behind a fence for refusing to comply with orders. i dont think you understand how fucking evil the police in the US are.

>>5010729
If this happened to me, precincts and cruisers would be on a fire later that night.

>>5010726
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/01/georgia-police-shoot-man-kill-dog-wrong-house
https://reason.com/tag/puppycide/
https://www.ammoland.com/2021/03/update-illicit-deadly-no-knock-houston-raid-of-innocent-couple-video/
yes, cops are allowed to walk into your house
if an animal makes them uneasy they can kill it on the spot without consequences
if you fail to obey fast enough they can kick you until you obey.

the waffen SS afforded german citizens gentler treatment than the free and democratic police offer white americans let alone black ones

departments go out of their way to hire the dumbest possible people and reject applicants who are too intelligent and moral

Sometimes I wonder how I managed to abuse my GSD into being basically like a police dog, yet she's still extremely nice, seems to be happy and is well-trained in a lot of other ways (aka, polite). She just barks at literally anything that moves (otherwise very quiet) and kills basically anything (deer, chickens, maybe goats) - I own like a dozen cats (wife) too so it's tough.
Been wondering for a while if I should consider giving her to a hunter or the police, or try to rehabilitate her prey drive somehow (with a professional?) so she likely wont kill cats (I would never leave her unsupervised with them, just wonder if I can make it unlikely she'd kill one if they happened to be around each other).
Anyone know dog psychology enough to help me decide? She's about 18 month old

>>5010738
Killing cats really isn't an issue. Objectively speaking, cats are pests and free roaming cats on your property are never desirable. Just give the dog to someone who doesn't own a cat. I have a cat-hunter and chickens on the same plot because the chickens have to be in a predator-proofed run regardless.

>>5010738
I mean...it's a GSD? Growing up everyone knew that people who have a GSD wanted a dog to randomly bite someone that come on their property "unannouced"

>>5010743
Yeah I don't mind her biting random tresspassers, who are very capable of fending her off or backing away given she's not immediately aggressive at all, but I do mind her biting a cat given the other prey she's killed.
>>5010741
Objectively speaking any individual life doesn't really matter, subjectively speaking I'd like to not cause the death of a cat or dog either directly or indirectly (by giving her to someone who doesn't rein her in, and she then kills cats)

>>5010745
>Objectively speaking any individual life doesn't really matter
It does if it's human. Anyways, pest control and hunting is the foundational purpose of the entire canis lupus familiaris species. Why are you so hung up about a dog that kills cats? They are naturally prey for large canids (and larger felids) the world over and unless contained to a storehouse or residence, a pest animal.

A dog that hunts cats will always hunt cats. You own a hunting dog. Other people will always own hunting dogs. The only real issue is if it kills your desired cats or not, and the only real solution is you can not house a predator with its prey no matter how much snake oil and abuse k9 dudebros shill you on.

Simply give it to someone who doesn't own cats or want cats on their land and move on. Most people would be more hung up on it killing goats than cats.

>>5010716
I live in a minority white state

I'll also add I was open carrying when the cops came to my house
They asked me to put it away but I didn't

You guys need to act civilized and you'll be treated that way

>>5010764
How is human life objectively important? At what point does it become important (is a vegetable destined to live out its life in a hospital bed objectively important)?
...I subjectively care about cats that are not my own, even if they are considered pests by another's subjevtive standard, and would prefer even non-management of them as a pest rather than management via mauling by a dog.
Like, I want advice on whether it is possible to ensure cats are not killed. You make it sound like most people who would take my dog would allow her to kill cats, which means it's, to me, unethical to give her away without knowledge in the other direction.

>>5010779
>How is human life objectively important?
Oh this is simple.

If you do not agree that human life is objectively important, all human life on the planet is objectively required to view you as a potential threat if it values itself. When it comes down to a moment of action you are obligated to put human life first otherwise you will be treated as an absolute threat. And your proselytizing against your own species would be considered an overt act of terrorism by less liberal people.
>I care about cats tho
Not only will your dog kill cats, but mine will, has, and does, and millions upon millions of other dogs as well. This is because cats are naturally the prey of dogs, and undesirable pests. Likewise, stray dogs are awful pests which is why in the US we wiped the vast majority of them out.

You have to accept the reality of it here. Dogs kill pests. Cats are pests. It's what they're meant to do. Why did you adopt the natural predator of your favorite animal? Are you stupid? Just give the dog away with a "no cats" disclaimer and move on. Your fellow man will thank you.

>>5010779
>he is a literal cuck for random cats

>>5010779
>vermin simp thinks humans arent priceless
typical

every time cat people speak i feel better about getting rid of those garden ruining bird killing shits. their supporters are consistently awful. outdoor cats sent to a kill shelter one county over last year: 7. thank you based cage trap. thank you flipper zero and nfckill.
captcha: DDAMN

>>5010788
>
If you do not agree that human life is objectively important, all human life on the planet is objectively required to view you as a potential threat if it values itself
Yes.

>>5010793
Yeah cat people are like that. It's probably because cats mimic infants, but still arent human, so they appeal to people who are emotionally a bit fucked.

Dogs are more like an adult man adjacement animal. Instead of replacing children they replace retarded albeit useful friends.

>>5010035
>>5010074
>>5010125
>muh marijuana/booze false dichotomy
this has always been the most retarded fight of all time, usually put forth by teenagers who have easier access to weed than steady access to alcohol. Most people who are shady fuck ups on the fringes of life, or are normies during work hours but have their vices, both drink and smoke. What a retarded argument this always has been

>>5010919
Yes but we can all agree meth is for pieces of shit am i right?

>>5010770
Whites are not a minority you pasty ass cracker

>>5001113
>In general I think they're used to augment arbitrary searches,
Agreed/ One would have to pretty naive about the motives and behavior of coos to imagine otherwise.

Bump :^)
I challenge you cops to go without drinling today on 4th of july, if you cant then you simply are an alcoholic and should sign up for a 12 step program and alcoholics anonymous

>>5011525
>*go without drinking*

I felt it had to be done I'm sorry.

Is it possible to report cops for their off duty behaviour? Asking for (about) a friend

>>5011566
only if its illegal

>>5011647
Being drunk and disorderly in public counts right?

>>5007793
>money laundering arrangement
It's more about keeping the budget as high as possible. If city realizes they don't need half the amount of tax dollars they're getting, it'll be a while before they can negotiate back up to that point.
>Yeah, I know we're in a sleepy white suburb and 90% of our job is giving teenagers speeding tickets, but we really need ten more specially-trained killer dogs and a new fleet of cruisers, maybe an AR for everyone while you're at it, trust me bro we're really underfunded and need this shit

>>5011675
not really, thats usually a misdemeanor and internal affairs would already know about that

Reminder whites are not a minority and your white fragility is showing because you reported my post you pasty ass elmer's glue lookin honkey cracker :^)
>>5010770

>>5010686
the two cops in your house:
>you
>your buddy

>>5011769
How else is internal affairs supposed to know if it hasnt been reported yet?

>>5011957
>Im going to literally make shit up out of thin air and pretend its real just because Im too scared to admit everyone arent pieces of shit like me

Pathetic.

>>5011959
because someone else wouldve done that already if this is such a regular occurrence and in the public and they wouldnt have a bias against them to since they wouldnt have prior knowledge to their employment, or youre lying about their behavior or its not in public

^white priviledge^
Honkey pls

On a side note: how many of you cops stayed sober yesterday (4th of july) and how many of you are alcoholics?

>>5011965
Yet, it is possible to do so... remember the public is watching ;)

>>5011971
okay...thats doesnt really change what i said

>>5011974
Ok it still doesnt mean i cant report a drunk off duty cop in public. It just hasnt been done yet
You are to PROTECT and SERVE the PEOPLE, not the other way around. If we can't trust you, then who can we trust?

>>5011935
Please shit talk more not just on the internet. Start assaulting white people with black or jeet nationalist rhetoric, shoving them around, yelling at them to go extinct, and openly call them an inferior race. Do this as often as possible.

thank you.
yours, the KKK

>>5011979
what they do in their personal lives isnt relevant to their professional ones unless they crossover

>>5012112
Then dont be drunk in public, the law still applies to you ya dingus( its for your health)

>>5012228
i already told you its not really against the law

>>5012237
If there is a law against people being drunk in public, its against the law(misdemeanor or felony). Its the law, besides i better not catch you driving ;)
Citizens arrest is a thing. This is how we dont end up in a police state of curruption. somebody has to keep an eye on you guys too if you are not to follow the law you took an oath for.
:^)

Frankly as a tax payer (i pay your salary) i am obligated to know how my employees conduct themselves off the job as it reflects their badge and department.

i'm fine with them as long as there is some kind of measure for success of the program. we have so many expensive police programs now and I don't know if they're really measuring how effective they are.

>>4998630 (OP)
For sniffing out drugs and all, yeah I'm for it. Not putting them up against criminals where they are attack dogs though. You're a human cop. Do your job you fat fuck. Don't send a dog to do what you should be doing.

>>5013365
>nooo not the good mood juice! not the fun plant! THY BODY ART A TEMPLE OF THE LORD! thou shalt only work sleep and pray! fun is not allowed! dogs should sniff every house to ensure everyone is following the book of mormon.
>huh, 10 time felon running from the cops? give him a chance, mano a mano. attack dogs are a big minority oppressing nope with me sis.
now this is true degeneracy

for jesus did drink wine but he also called a lightning bolt down to smite jamaul the carthaginian for stealing his cart. its in the suppressed gospel of samuel.

>>5013376
I do drugs. But I can at least see the use in letting dogs sniff out bombs and drugs. At least the animal isn't put in harm's way that way.

>>5013376
How does the separation of church and state work in this regard?

>>5013396
The separation of church and state can only work if religious freedom is axed and non-atheists are not allowed to hold office.

>>5013582
But why are politicians and cops using religion as an excuse to break the law?

>>5013589
Because there is no separation of church and state.

>>5013590
But there is the law

>>5013594
Yes and you refuse to do anything about it because it may benefit you not to

>>5013365
>>5013378
what, if any, benefit is there for """police""" dogs having a 100% hit rate for drugs due to their owner instructing them to? Furthermore explain why any drug should be illegal when actual crimes are already crimes.

Have any of you alcoholics sign up for a 12 step prigram yet or alcoholics anonymous?

>>5000666
Nice try Satan

>>5013657
I'm just going to quit

>>5013659
Not good enough
You have demons
Seek help

The fact that cops are nlt dokng their part against ice agents to protect the people is a bot hypocritical right? Almost as voting for trumpas a joke(the joke being stripping families apart and traumitizing young children.) Anyways the leadt you can do to prove they are indeed federeal agents is to force them to show id because until then they hold no jurisdiction over you.

>>5013953
To add to this
If they are NOT federal agents, guess what you can do about it? You can arrest them for impersonating federal agents! ;)

>>5013953
All the millions of people who have recently arrived and have not adapted to our customs and in many cases have contributed to insecurity in our neighborhoods ... will have to return to their countries

>>5013965
Back to the uk with you :^)

>>5014005
>it's a "stolen land" libtard cope
Conquest, and mass migration funded by "the financial elite" for the purposes of wage suppression and nullifying democracy with competing interests, are not the same thing.

>>5014010
Go back to germany ,;^)

Every drug sniffing dog is addicted to drugs. It’s animal abuse. It should be illegal

>>5003012
It’s true, it’s damn true

>>5014012
Go back to your shithole so my country doesn't end up looking exactly like it.

>>5014016
My shit hole is the usa and it looks like the usa which is a shit hole :^)
Go back to russia ;^)

>>5014018
Bot nonsense

>>5014019
Go back to north korea ,;^)

>>5004122
based fuck brownoid criminal scum should just let the dogs kill them imho

>>5014030
Go back to israel ;^)

>>5000712
>they get to bite niggers
fair trade if you ask me

>>5014078
jews arent white
jews rape kids
fuckoff moshe

>>5014082
Go back to israel ,;^)

>>5014081
Go back to south africa ;^)

You got ice agents using tear gas on young kids in farm fields
Is this justice?
Is this the american way?

>>5014861
yes

go back

>>5014891
Go back to germany ;^)

>>5014891
Deez nibbas out here attacking kids and laughing about it. That is not very christian...
Shiggy diggy

>>5014912
Christian? You mean the religion that did the crusades?

>>5014911
The US is the homeland of White Americans and it has a right to exist as a White American state.

>>5014919
Crazy cracka

>>5014919
So you agree christians are evil ;^)

>>4998630 (OP)
K-9s for apprehension of running suspects is based
K-9s for drug sniffing is a total gimmick and a bullshit tactic for cops to search anything they want. I'm sure the dogs are trained well but I've seen this abused many times.

>>5003518
Idk my mom's 5lb Yorkie chomped my finger once (my fault, I was fucking with him) and it hurts like fuck and bled like crazy. No doubt he could kill the shit out of a rat if given the opportunity.

>>5014921
I agree that christians are based. Violence and conquest are based.

Subversion on the other hand is evil

>>5014931
Hmmmm does'nt that go against the 10 commandments?

>>5014935
>expecting any of the "christians" to know anything about the religion they larp being a part of

>>5014935
The laws of noah and moses are null and void. Christianity is a loose religion like shinto buddhism. You see, the bible isn't actually a rule book. No one actually believes any of it is the literal word of god. Current doctrine is the bible is inspired but fallible and had human authors merely channeling a small amount of divinity.

It would be most christian to deport all inferior people and then help them build their own paradise away from our home and gene pool, for instance. This is well within the bounds of the core message because having them live here and contaminate our gene pool would make everyones life as bad as theirs would be if we simply helped improve their shithole.

>>5014944
>The laws of noah and moses are null and void.
aka "i pick and choose what i follow because i can't be arsed to actually adhere to standards"
your average american grocery store christian that ignores all the pesky parables/psalms about being an upstanding community member and helping those less fortunate than himself

>>5014949
>aka "i pick and choose what i follow because i can't be arsed to actually adhere to standards"
Yes. Deal with it. Arbitrary behavior is superior.

>>5014950
thanks for admitting you have low IQ with the temperament of a child at least

>>5014861
Should be using mustard gas. ICE is too soft they should be called water.

>>5014950
Based

>>5014952
Notice how the people who control the world dont adhere to principles beyond "win"? You follow slave morality.

>>5014944
>the racists are the only ones that want to improve thirdie nations
>the anti racists want to run a talent drain program to ensure no one capable of working still lives in thirdie nations 50 years from now, but the GDP would go up and lenders would make a lot of money
lol 2025. racism represents the opposite of destroying the world for profit. if we ever meet aliens they will be even more fucked than this.

>>5014988
>other people do it so it's fine for me to do it as well!
speaking of being a slave...
also don't reply to yourself, it's incredibly obvious when you do.

>>5014944
The laws are null and void to you but not to god
He sees all
He is making a list and checking it twice
He knows who is naughty or nice
Naughty goes to hell
Nice goes to heaven
;^)

>>5014996
>noooo dont do what needs to be done be consistent with virtue ethics and accomplish nothing!
Retard. We will not be replaced.
>only one person thinks this!
Trump won.

^going to hell^
;^)

>>5015028
Hell isn't in the bible as a fate for men, but if it is real, it's a balling underground empire ran by the world's badasses and the coolest people to have ever lived.

^honky coping about burning in hell^
COPE
SEETHE
DILATE
;^)

>>5015044
Hell isn't real. Christianity isn't real. It's just an effective system of social organization that makes it easy to get lemmings and sheep to do and go along with shit without having to try and explain something that is objectively too complex for them to understand, let alone question.

That's why it's "pick and choose", so the sheep can be guided where they need to go for the nation to succeed.

But you're a liberal so you believe the greatest virtue is dying "logically ethically right" and then disintegrating pointlessly

^schizo coping about not being real^
it's all in your head cracka, if it exists at all...
;^)

>>5015048
It's not really cope. Do you think the leaders of israel honestly believe god is real? No. Do you think muslim ayatollahs and the like are truly muslim, as they roll in riches and turn asylum seekers away? No. "Help the poor" is what they tell the poor to maintain workforce cohesion. Religion exists to control low IQ people. That is why every religion is entirely arbitrary and amounts to "do what the priest says".

^schizo jej^
cry some more and keep feeding me some (you)'s
Thank you for your service but it doesnt matter
;^)

honky ass crackers
;^)

>>5015054
>anything that goes over your head is schizo
Whatever, more parasites got deported today

^thanks for the (you)^
Your salty tears are delicious cracker
;^)

People that hate families voted for trump
;^)

People that really hate kids voted for trump (he has people using tear gas on kids around the age of 7 or even younger)
;^)

People that only know shitty jokes and don't know a good joke if it bit them on the ass voted for trump
;^)

If foreign invaders would stop resisting and simply go back home we wouldnt have a problem. Oh well, time for more camps. Consider it reparations for the outsized crime perpetrator/victim demographics.

>>5015078
Kids grow up. If it ain't white it ain't right, get the fuck out. I can wait until the global open season on streetshitters.

>>5015063
Who's salty? You're the one crying (frantically), I'm the one getting exactly what I wanted and calmly explaining to you that all the moral frameworks you thought would save you were actually nonsense meant to control the bottom half of the population.

ICE agents closing in already?

^gives me another (you)^
Thank you <3

>>5015099
Are reply backlinks on 4chan really that important to you? Are you on the run from ICE right now? Could (you)s be the last taste of first world life you'll ever get?

I recommend you walk in and self deport. It hurts less.

^kek he mad^
Im not illegal
Go back to sweden
;^)

HONKY
;^)

Go back to japan you chinks
;^)

Go back to ireland you leprechauns
;^)

Go back to italy you dirty dagoes
;^)

Go back to vietnam you fucking gook shits
;^)

Go back to india (toilets>streets)
;^)

Go back to your home land (usa) native american indians
;^)

Really putting the derangement in TDS there bud

^cope^
Go back to nigeria
;^)

Honky
;^)

Elmer's glue looking cracker
;^)

>>5014861
I’ve loved seeing news articles twist themselves into knots with language like ‘agricultural farm’ because they don’t want to admit ICE has been raiding weed farms, for some reason.

Also child labor is bad. It’s also funny to see lefties try and defend these businesses and the criminals that work there.

>>5015286
>>5015300
Nigger.

Use tear gas on the families of ice agents in their homes
;^)

>>5015304
Those were not child workers, they were crying because their parents were being stripped away from them and imprisoned riggt kn front of their very eyes and to top it off ice agents used tear gas on them. What is a crying 7 year old going to do against a fully trained, fully armed, fully racist soldier? Nothing absolutely nothing. But hey they like to bully the weak and defenseless (kids). I personally cannot stand kids and i frankly do not like them, but i would never intentionally hurt them at all because they are kids.
;^)

>>5015311
Whatever you need to tell yourself buddy.

Honky
;^)

>>5015311
You are getting deported

Cracker
;^)

HONKY
;^)

>antiwhite slurs a-OK
>n word post deleted

>>5015374
Anti-white slurs are too comically weak when transmitted over a white invention and white-made infrastructure so they can stay as a humiliation ritual for the sender

>>5015374
My mom just reported them all for racism. You could try reporting for spam. What will be interesting is if this post gets deleted.

^soggy crackers from crying over a word^
;^)

>>5015380
Okay nigger.

>>5015383
You aight honky, you aight. here is a (you)
;^)

Cracker
;^)

>>5015374
Incredible
https://desuarchive.org/an/thread/4998630/#5015377

Honky
;^)

>>5015376
lol

Cracker
;^)

>>5010779
kek bet you were not expecting to find this level of sheer mental illness and retardation on the animals board. don't quote me on this but common sense would seem to indicate that instincts have to be bred out so with any one particular animal you're gonna necessarily be limited to whatever can be accomplished via training. in which case german shepherd means yes absolutely your goal is possible. well, assuming you can devote time and dedication to making it happen. if you were gonna luck out that hard i'd think you'd probably know it after 18 months.

tl;dr magic 8 ball says yes, train doggo

>>4998630 (OP)
I think its pretty cool. they have skills we don't. and cool to think that another species is technically a police officer

>>5000666
Was Genesis wrong? Do we not have total dominion over this world? No other animal has exterminated as many species as we have, developed hundreds of thousands of acres of land for comfort, the ability to live in any terrain and climate. We can even manipulate the weather now.
>also 666, begone satan.

>>5015580
Antibiotic-resistant bacteria are going to ass rape you.