Our dog has been rolling on its back a lot lately. I think this is harmless and I give belly rubs. but my dad got mad. He says it's sexual and accused me of fondling the dog's genitals. /an/ please give me reputable sources that prove this behavior is completely normal.

most boomer knowledge of dogs (don't let them on the couch, don't let them stare into your eyes, don't let them walk in front of you) is retarded, knowing this I highly doubt what he said is true

Dogs like belly rubs
American boomers, especially in the midwest, are significantly less intelligent than superior races

>>5011219
>don't let them on the couch, don't let them stare into your eyes, don't let them walk in front of you
literally all of these tips come from reputable dog trainers like cesar milan

Any dog body language site can tell you that. It's a sign of submission. Except instead of being forced to roll over for conspecific conflicts it's to show they trust you. It could be sexual, but you'd know if it was because he'd be having a red rocket sticking out. And if he does that then yeah cut that out.

>>5011212 (OP)
>our dog
>our
American moment

>>5011234
>reputable dog trainers like cesar milan
CHU NEED TO DOMEENAYTE YOUR DAWG MAN

>>5011245
But it's true. Your dog is a pack animal and expects you to lead the pack. When you give signs of weakness, you make your dog nervous and the dog tries to become the pack lead. This is the source of 99% of dog behavior problems.

>>5011251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNtFgdwTsbU
You literally know nothing about dogs.

>>5011234
Yea ese we run the dog training show and shit foo. All these punk ass peanut butter trainer foos are pussy. Cesar Millan the best ese

>>5011252
wolves dont have a pack alpha because they live in family. dogs develop the alpha behavior if they're forced to live in a group with unrelated dogs

>>5011251
thts a lotta shit to try and justify the fact that as a social animal, you too can be inclined to enjoy domination and just own a dog so you can indulge

>>5011251
Dogs do not think humans are dogs

Traditional training methods exponentially increase aggression and neuroticism, resulting in an outdoors only tethered animal no one can touch, that can only be loosed by one person, cautiously.

>>5011251
None of this makes shit for sense because of all these bullshit assumptions
1: You assume dogs and humans share the same dominance signals. How stupid is this? Going from humans to gorillas changes the meaning of direct eye contact from "hi friend" to "i want to fucking kill you, you fat ugly fucking faggot COME OVER HERE AND GET SOME YOU FAT CHIMP BITCH". You think dogs recognize "dads chair" or think there's something special about belly rubs?
2: You assume dogs give a fuck about sharing a social structure with humans. This has deep and disturbing implications. Thankfully, dogs do not share their social structure with humans. We share like 7 facial expressions and vague similarities in vocal expression of emotion, that's it.
3: You're totally ignoring all the research that shows trying to act like an alpha CHIMP to a DOG results in an aggressive dog that attacks everyone it fears less than its master

>>5011251
This. I owned 4 dogs over the years and anytime they start to show behavior problems I would alpha roll them. They turned into perfectly behaved pets fine around young kids even.

>>5011314
My brother owns 2 dogs he does this to. both bit me, and both eventually escaped. one got hit by a car another bit a child.

the breed? border collie and yellow lab.

>>5011314
>alpha roll
I trained a difficult rottie with a "roll and slice."
>take dog for walk with muzzle
>dog becomes aggressive
>alpha roll, pin on back
>look in dog's eyes and with your free hand rigid like a blade, "slice" the dog's belly open
the dog will never forget that lesson

>>5011314
I had a dog that would try to bite me whenever he didn't want to get off the couch, so I'd pin him by the neck and he'd just get more mad.

>>5011212 (OP)
Stop touching the dog's dick faggot

>>5011219
this, your retard dad is assuming dogs have the same ideas of sexuality as humans

my dog does this all the time, seems to find it comfy

>>5011234
why even have a dog if you aren't going to be friends with them.

>>5011234
And not one works

Why would you trust an "alpha trainer" whose pitbull killed another dog? He can't even reign in a terrier.

>>5011439
because if you're a 90 IQ thirdie dogs are only for being chained up near things people should be bitten for reaching towards

this is unironically a degenerated condition, not the original one. ancient people in mesopotamia and egypt had their dogs lounging on couches no problem.

>>5011235
It's also something they do if they're feeling safe so they can help cool down since they have much less fur on their bellies, especially if they like to sleep like that.

>>5011306
stop making sense.

My dad was convinced him and my cat had a special bond where he'd scratch her belly and she'd start attacking him because it was a game he played with her as a kitten. Obviously, this is just what cats always do.

>>5011212 (OP)
By the way why did OP not specify the dog's gender?

>>5011485
Is there second webm with her sexing it?

>>5011234
>You have a dog
>You can't cuddle with him or hug him >You can't look him in the eyes (wtf?) >You can't let him choose whether to turn right or left while walking based on the scents that attract him
Yeah no, fuck off boomer

>>5011446
yup, there are even traces of mortuary epitaphs for dogs in Rome and Greece

>>5011212 (OP)
How the fuck is everyone ignoring his dad said rubbing the dog's belly is SEXUAL?

Bro, watch your dad around the dog, sounds like he's the one who sees it as sexual and is either fantasizing about or outright fucking your dog. Dog probably is scared of him and submissive to you because he only feels safe around you.

Jesus Christ.

>>5011212 (OP)
Dogs are very complex creatures. They are a lot like us, and that is why they are mans best friend.
I do 100% believe that dogs can show sexual attraction to humans, beyond just the leg humping dominance thing.
I have had quite a few dogs in my life, mainly female dogs since I find them easier to train, less territorial, and more playful. They have often flagged me when they are in heat. They turn their butt towards you, and lift up their tail to the side as they look back at you. It's completely natural, and you just have to turn them away and sternly tell them no. They do not know how to see you until you establish that parent role for them. They will see you as a possible mate, if not trained since they are unaware that you are not just a weird looking dog.

For both male and female dogs, belly rubs are normal and not sexual, however getting too close to their genitals can make them think that you are sexually interested, so just be carefully. Stick to rubbing their chest. Dogs usually lie on their back to cool off, or to show submission. They are not always interested in belly rubs.

>>5012302
>and you just have to turn them away and sternly tell them no
...i mean, you don't HAVE to

>>5011550
Shut the fuck up

>>5012302
> They have often flagged me when they are in heat. They turn their butt towards you, and lift up their tail to the side as they look back at you
> They will see you as a possible mate, if not trained since they are unaware that you are not just a weird looking dog.
this is just false. it doesnt happen. stop making shit up or post fat husky so we know your "haha i turned her away" thing is the real larp.

>>5011296
Dogs do consider humans pack mates while wolves do not. Even as puppies. We bred it into them.

>>5012302
>I do 100% believe that dogs can show sexual attraction to humans
What the fuck. No. they do not.
>They turn their butt towards you, and lift up their tail to the side as they look back at you
No, this is not sexual. Dogs have more complex courtship than "show butt". All dogs do this because they want you to scratch their thighs and their tail goes up when they're happy.

Dogs do not want to fuck people. You are disgusting.

>things that didn't happen
is this an advice subreddit?

>>5012302
>they are unaware that you are not just a weird looking dog.
What a stupid thing to say.
Even (You)-imprinted geese know that you're not a goose.
Dogs have a very different social system with other dogs than with humans.

What's wrong if it is sexual?

>>5011212 (OP)
He's a paranoid

>>5011212 (OP)
Was your dad alive before leaded gas was banned?

>>5011212 (OP)
>my dad accused me of fondling the dog's genitals
unless your father saw you doing this, it's a very serious and weird thing to say to someone, let alone your own child.

semi-related: why are you still living at home?
maybe you'll have a better life in a different environment