Thread 5019274

Nature is really evil when you think about it, discuss

>consciously capable of choosing to not be evil
>doesn't

>>5019366
>>consciously capable of choosing to not be evil
false, humans are fallen beings

>>5019381
this

"evil" doesn't exist

>>5019385
Yes it does. Even if you hold to a privation view of evil because privations exist in some sense.

>>5019274 (OP)
it's only through a near endless string of evil events that you're even allowed to be on this earth and make this thread.

>>5019391
no one was talking about that and no one started seething until you did

>>5019274 (OP)
Grab a shovel and dig yourself a hole then.

What do you want the predators to do? Not eat and starve themselves to death? Let their kids starve? They can't go out shopping and buy food pre-killed like we do. And we don't have photosynthesis like plants do where we can get our food by not killing anything. Things gotta eat to survive and everyone wants to live on for another day. That means someone somewhere has to take the fall. We are heterotrophs. We exist by preying on other things. Things must die so that we can live. That is not evil. That's just the nature of the existence we find ourselves in. And being removed from such brutality for a long time has made most people shocked and horrified at it.

>>5019399
It directly relates to the OP, retard.

>>5019503
Don't engage with the vegan philosophy schizo. He's an angsty midwit that exists to pretend he's smart.

if you said not dying is the point of life he'd say 'but can you prove that LOGICALLY?'

>>5019274 (OP)
Penguins rape fish
Seals rape penguins
Orcas rape seals

Nature is fair.

>>5019274 (OP)
OP is a jew and made this and continues to make threads like it to defame Nature because jews want it destroyed as competition to their false underworld "god". If you point this out, you'll get banned, yet OP is permitted to post his (fake female) bullshit on this board 24/7.

Threadly Reminder: blue boards are literally just reddit.

>>5019274 (OP)
yes orcas are pretty funny, but the seals they eat are usually alone, they are to be opportunistic
but the way they eat penguin is even crazier, in one session a handful of orcas will feed on dozens even hundreds on penguins since they are basically snack for them
they squeeze the penguin between their jaws and forcing the meat right out of their skin, literally sucking out the meat and leaving the skeleton and skin intact, it is gruesome

>>5019823
That make your little pecker hard?

>>5019830
you have a sick and twisted world-perspective, little boy

>>5019861
Pure projection. I'm fine with Nature not involving B movie horror scenes. You aren't. You literally require it to sustain your evil presence in this world, which means I need to cut you off so you will die.

>>5019385
go back

seals getting eaten isn't evil in the slightest, they deserve to die for their mass murder of nautiloids

Nature is an irredeemable butcher whose tactics were necessary to bootstrap organismal fitness to the point where we are now, on the verge of being able to improve it ourselves consciously and humanely instead of blindly and with great collateral damage in the way nature currently does. There is nothing respectable or defensible or desirable about it, though one should at the same time have sympathy for your fellow travelers big and small who are trapped in the slaughterhouse with you and forced to be harmed and inflict harm on each other in accordance with the butcher's wishes.

Nature and the suffering that it inflicts has to be vanquished in order for the struggles of your ancestors to have ever meant anything (going back to the first single celled organism). If we persist forever in a benighted world ordered (and disordered) by suffering, then it will all have been pointless and meant nothing.

>>5019503
>Things must die so that we can live. That is not evil.
>That's just the nature of the existence we find ourselves in.
You're so close. The nature of the existence we find ourselves in... is evil.

>>5019799
nature is the underworld god. or it's an invention of the underworld god. I'm definitely not in favor of whatever the circumcision cult wants to replace it with, though.

>>5019871
No, that's death. Death is the opposite of Nature
>but
No. You're a jew. Don't attempt to speak for Nature. You're not a part of the family. You're a part of death's family. We're enemies.

>>5019274 (OP)
Nature is the primordial chaos all other things stem from. It created us, existed before we gave meaning or names to good and evil, and it will be there after.

Nature is fundamentally evil. The extinction of all life should be Humanity's top priority, the universe must return to silence.

>>5019883
Nope. Wrong. Nature is Order. Chaos is inflicted upon it by death.

>>5019888
Jew.

You ethicists are disordered.
>suffering? perhaps order? perhaps empathy? perhaps pleasure?
Made up bullshit.

If you believe in anything but survival and good sustainable living conditions for you and your own, I recommend trying to do without those and tell us how intellectual you feel when you are dead and you leave behind a trash heap.

I will sit squarely in "everything other than you" and if you intend to reduce my fitness I am obligated to terminate you immediately.

it's a lovely system.

>>5019923
Jewish false religion has no place in science.

>>5019923
t. buckbroken by gnon

>>5019924
>>5019914
>>5019872
>everything I don't like is jews!

>>5019924
I don't know what you're responding to or if you understand a thing here. It might be fundamentally incompatible with your ultimately metaphysical traditions.

Let me put it very simply

The meaning of life is to stay alive and have a good time.
Good and evil do not exist, but human behavior does and you do have to live around humans to survive effectively. Human behavior is also predictable and objective except in the case someone is what we call mentally ill. These are often divergent by nature and the most successful system to date calls for their removal from society.
There are no nature spirits but you do need fertile fields and stable weather to have food.
The naturalistic fallacy is not a fallacy. Nature is the only true God. Nature is consequence itself.

>>5019926
>Everything that is specifically jewish is jewish
Yes. Obfuscation will not be tolerated here.

>>5019927
Be quiet, sophist.

>>5020007
>No rebuttal
all things that are real exist. there is nothing in the universe that is only within the reach of reason.

all the moral thought in the world can do nothing against the immediate reality
>well, this is wrong. logically. you people are being ethically inconsistent. you eat meat, and yet you do this to me for expressing my love for h-
>Executioner, the guillotine.

>>5020014
That is the rebuttal. Your drivel is not high minded philosphy. You're just a degenerate raised in a neo-weimar period. You have nothing of value to say and it doesn't matter anyway. You fucking lost and soon you'll be dead.

>>5019927
>>5020014
you are a fucking moron

>>5019774
It really doesn't. You just felt a need to repost your epic reddit screencap hoping for some replies.

>>5019274 (OP)
That's the price for evolution
>>5019389
This, except it's only seen as 'evil' by those who are insecure about defending themselves

>>5020014
>>5019927
They hate him because he tells the truth

Morality is science, not philosophy. Right and wrong can be tested with the criteria being the well being of the group. Philosophy beyond this is literally masturbation.

>>5020074
but if we only go by the facts no one can be gay. its bad for group fitness and personal well being. we’d be obligated to find an effective cure for the gay. cant have that since op is gay.

>>5019274 (OP)
It's the way she goes boys

h*mans are IQmogged by dolphins

Not evil but certainly brutal.

>>5019799
while neopagans aren’t under the kike umbrella they still behave pretty similarly to jews

>>5019274 (OP)
why are their eyes red? are they high on drugs?

>>5020074
Individuals disagree on what is good for the group, that's why nature made each individual with different strength.

>>5020074
Complete communist cattle trannybabble, the human animal formed groups out of personal convenience and morality springs out of that.

>>5020125
If you cared about being consistent you'd say IQ and dolphins are a spook, but also stirner is a retard

>>5020465
Some groups have a superior ethos to others, and those are the groups that have persisted the longest and crushed their enemies

People who practice and enforce monogamy blow past those who don't
People who don't allow murder except when removing dangerous people from the group blow past those who don't
Etc

Morality is just excessively abstracted cost:benefit analysis, to the point where moralizing itself may very well be evil. That must be why the longest persistent cultures say that you shan't question the word of god (ancient cultural wisdom that's been subject to natural selection for longer than you've been grasping at straws), when you think about it...