Thread 5030242

Which are the best predators of the animal kingdom?

>>5030242 (OP)
Define best

>>5030242 (OP)
Killer Whales/Orcas

They’re so cool

>>5030244
How likely are you to win against them in unarmed combat?

>>5030247
Then the polar bear probably

>>5030242 (OP)
Saltwater crocodiles

https://www.reddit.com/r/HardcoreNature/comments/pqdyf6/remains_of_a_tiger_that_was_killed_and_partially/

>>5030247
Elephants mog every terrestrial predator

>>5030282
Very much true

>>5030280
>tiger chips tooth
>lion breaks toe
>starves to death in two weeks
meanwhile
>crocodile has no teeth left, 3 legs bitten off, blind in one eye, busted jaw, wife leaves
>lives to 135

>The brain of an adult Nile crocodile weighs about 30-35 grams, which is exactly equal to the weight of five Oreo cookies stacked together.
Based Oreo brains no-selling everything.

>>5030242 (OP)
Jaguar
https://files.catbox.moe/dvwblb.mp4

>>5030242 (OP)
Objectively, Shrews.
>evolved venom, echolocation
>are known to overkill and stock up prey
>can take down prey MUCH larger than themselves
>many species need to eat their own body weight (or past it) in food every single day to not die, so they're hunting pretty much every waking minute

>>5030411
Crazy how mammals have brains that are so much larger and then just don’t use any of it

>>5030242 (OP)
1. Polar Bears
2. Orcas
3. Tigers
4. Brown Bears
5. Lions
6. Saltwater Crocs
7. Jaguars

These are pretty much it if we're excluding birds. I think there are no other predators that have no predators of their own or aren't constantly BTFO by other predators like Leopards or Wolves

>>5030596
Speak for yourself, whiteboy.

>>5030784
These are pretty much all the apex predators i can think of too

>>5030242 (OP)
Blue Whales if we're talking about the kill count of an individual. Krillions you can't even conceive of how many they kill as anything other than an abstract it's just too immense.

>>5030784
S-shark bros????

>>5030938
Orcas regularly play with and rip apart so many sharks.

>>5030242 (OP)
Dragonflies are the most efficient predators in the animal kingdom with a hunting success rate of 95% or more. This thing practically kills every single thing it sets its sights on.

>>5030955
I don't understand why though. Literally what threat to they pose to anything?

>>5030784
Does best mean just the highest powerlevel in general? because if it's about being the best in their personal niche it's propably something like this >>5030955

>>5031208
Minnows, tadpoles, flys, mosquitoes.

>>5030282
>

>>5030907
>approx 4 million krill per day for 110 years = 160600000000 kills
Outrageous k/d on these fellas

>>5030252
Eh their success rate isn't that great

>>5030784
Snow Leopards? Komodo Dragons? Do Leopard Seals get hunted by Orcas?

>>5031258
The dude said his standard for "best" was how easily they can kill a human

>>5031626
YES THEY DO

>>5030384
this is really difficult to argue against

>>5030384
>the only large predator adaptable enough to be so abundant its effectively considered a pest everywhere it lives (which is basically everywhere close the equator)
>often needs to be culled, always comes back
>has existed in the exact same layout for a million billion years
>never had one thought in that whole time
>basically don't stop growing
>single examples that learn to hunt humans often need teams of expert hunters and decades to find and eliminate them
>always in/near shit brown water so basically invisible its whole life except for the 3 seconds it needs to be out of the water to kill something
He's right

>>5032348
>never had one thought in that whole time
They have plenty of thoughts and every single one involves planning the death of some unfortunate creature

>>5032365
>an animal that doesn't just hunt
>it schemes
Why are ambush 'mals so based?

>>5032365
>>5032369
Devious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxI1vGAPxfA

>>5032348
>Proceeds to get btfo and chomped in half by a hippo.

>>5032376
>proceeds to g-ACK!!!

>>5032405
>Can't refute against hippos curb stomping crocs so he has to bring up outside factors like hippos being endangered due to human caused poaching and habitat loss.
Nile crocodiles would be in exact same position if subhumans were doing the same thing to them. And as far as I know nearly half of all crocodile species on the planet are threatened/endangered.

>>5032667
Hippos do the same to lions and other big cats

>>5032376
>>5032667
Hippos and crocodiles having some sort of blood feud is a meme. They generally just ignore each other

>>5030424
Is that a captive Jaguar being fed live prey or something? You would think that a wild one would be spooked away by that group of people, but on the other hand, why would that feed it something that can bite back, like that croc?

>>5030242 (OP)
>100% hunting success rate

>>5032373
I remember watching a documentary on how they actually walk for miles in search of water during dry seasons. It was pretty cool

>>5033060
I kneel....

>>5033060
>so OP the only counter play is tricking them into eating plastic
Terrestrial predators could never

>>5030242 (OP)
Martens are underrated

>>5033126
Is that a fucking monkey he's eating?

>>5033126
This, i was breeding pidgeons, i had a bit over 100 birds, one got into the enclosure and massacred every Single one of then except 3.

>>5033820
they’re really good at it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFG4LL4iRfA

Wild Dogs are very good at hunting. They're smart about what they hunt, voting on a target before committing to chasing it. They have a very high success rate because of this selectivity.
They're good at hunting but not very good at fighting off other predators because they're kinda small, so they've got a reputation for eating prey alive because they have to get a bite in before something else comes and steals the kill.

>>5030242 (OP)
Your mother

>>5032667
isn't the main factor for hippos being endangered today because they were hunted to near extinction by ancient Egyptians because they kill everything in sight, including a fucking Pharaoh?

>>5033117
pic related is terrestrial and has a 100% hunting success rate

>>5030242 (OP)
Man.

>>5035708
I kneel

>>5035812
Anon that’s a caiman. A crocodile’s head alone can weigh more than a large jaguar

>>5037292
>>5035812
Not only that, the caiman that jaguars sometimes prey on are the yacare caiman, usually the smaller females which max out at about 1.5 meters, the males doubling that. Jaguars also share their habitat with the black caiman however, which can get up to 6 meters long, and jaguars never fuck with these guys. Same goes for anacondas. Reptiles dominate the food chain in the amazon.

I didn't even know black caimen got this big until recently. They're as big if not bigger than nile crocs, and they eat shit like tapirs anacondas and river dolphins. Adults have no natural predators and yes they hunt jaguars, but jaguars generally know to avoid deeper bodies of water.

>>5037310
>Same goes for anacondas
Reptilefag cope. Snakes get fucked up and eaten by anything that's not a harmless bird or rat.

>>5037323
Jaguars will eat anacondas and an anaconda would also eat a jaguar if it got the chance. It’s entirely circumstantial. Real life isn’t a hypothetical death match you autist. Here’s an anaconda who ate an adult puma
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Radio-collar-being-recovered-from-the-carcass-of-an-adult-female-puma-inside-of-a-large_fig5_307594257

>>5032348
Sharks too, live to be like 400 with more scar tissue than regular tissue

>>5032376
very misleading, hippos only live next so smaller crocodile species and they go many vs one. Also they only win on land. In the water crocodiles hunt hippos despite being many times smaller.

>>5037330
Adult hippos get five times more heavier than nile crocodiles. They can't do shit against hippos.

Most underrated predator

>>5037336
Sorry bro, if all you eat is glorified snails you're disqualified.

>>5037330
Nile crocodiles are the second largest crocs. Hippos and crocodiles generally avoid each other, and as far as I’m aware there are 0 cases of crocodiles hunting adult hippos

>>5037336
>>5037339
>carving out a niche by being the only organism that has ever existed able to reliably hunt your prey of choice
>an animal you find so regularly that you can sustain your entire diet on it, while humans have only witnessed them and handful of times and were considered myth until a few decades ago
>a hunter so unbelievable books are written about it

>>5035707
...No.
Hippos live all over Africa, Egyptians could not reach the majority of them.