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Anonymous No.5037604 >>5037824 >>5039174 >>5041718
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Anonymous No.5037620
First for the autumn damask rose. A repeat bloomer and thus a rarity among old European roses since most of them flower only once a year. Legend has it that the rose, having disappeared from Europe, was reintroduced by French crusaders from the city of Damascus from where it got its name.
Anonymous No.5037623 >>5039605
First for the autumn damask rose. It is a repeat bloomer and thus a rarity among old European roses most of which flower only once a year. Legend has it that this rose, having disappeared from Europe, was reintroduced by French crusaders from the city of Damascus from where it got its name.
Anonymous No.5037654 >>5037814
i want to put in rugosa roses as a space filler but is this a cop out? i dont know much about roses or rose varieties
Anonymous No.5037657
Does anyone here have experience with sugarcane?
Someone bought me some rootstalks and I planted them asap because I was told they go bad quickly, but I'm a bit clueless about what to do now.
Anonymous No.5037769
Anonymous No.5037814 >>5038080
>>5037654
They're fine I guess but look into rugosa hybrids to add variety and flavor https://www.trevorwhiteroses.co.uk/product-category/rugosa-roses/#:~:text=Rugosa%20roses%20are%20extremely%20hardy,colourful%20additions%20to%20a%20garden.
Anonymous No.5037824 >>5037827
>>5037604 (OP)
Is there a site or app I can use to easily check what type of soil and watering scheme trees and bushes have? I already killed two japanese maples and I'm pretty sure It's because of improper soil..
Anonymous No.5037827 >>5037831
>>5037824
What soil do you have?
Anonymous No.5037831
>>5037827
I don't know I just mixed in soil from my yard and some store bought one my grandma uses for her flowers. But I think it was too heavy, it got very clumpy when you watered it which I don't think is good for a tree like that.
Anonymous No.5037832
How do carnivores grow so god damn fast when they intentionally have to be starved of nutrients
Anonymous No.5037862 >>5039175
I shouldn't start bringing my succulents inside until it starts being like, 5c at night, right?
It got down to 9 last night (in AUGUST) and i felt so chilly that I worried too much and moved them
I know deserts get really cold at night, but they're also incredibly dry and most of mine are from mexico, not the sahara.
Anonymous No.5037863 >>5039201
I just noticed the leaves are changing color for fall
in AUGUST
Anonymous No.5038063
>>5036902
You, the mere plant, will be content within the confines of the pot that I, God, have graciously allowed you. You will grow vertically, in a way that is aesthetically pleasing to me, lest you take up more room than I have alotted to you. You will remain full, lush, and in one piece, rather than breaking apart and spreading yourself to lands unknown, leaving selfish scars that are ugly to my eye.
Anonymous No.5038080 >>5038127
>>5037814
yeah i was thumbing through a couple sites, but the wild type seem to win out on fragrance if nothing else
Anonymous No.5038127 >>5038178
>>5038080
Roseraie de l'HaΓΏ, Hansa, Dagmar Hastrup, Schneekoppe etc are all heirloom hybrids that are said to possess strong fragrance.
Anonymous No.5038154
I should fertilize when flower buds appear, right?
Anonymous No.5038178
>>5038127
very interesting, thank you
Anonymous No.5038306 >>5042077
I FUCKIN LOVE FLOWERS YEEAAAAAAHHHH
Anonymous No.5038329 >>5038343
Three large deliciosas ready to be cut with air layering.
Want to experiment by having no pot with one of them, and hang it. I wonder how it will behave, having no solid foundation, if it will get fooled and stop growing large leaves.
Anonymous No.5038343 >>5039765
>>5038329
God damn the cuts brown up fast. Is it a defensive mechanic as to not drain any fluid?
Anonymous No.5038462 >>5038484 >>5038616 >>5038626
Squamiferum bloomed.

I should just cut any blooms off as soon as they appear, shouldn't I?
Anonymous No.5038484 >>5038838
>>5038462
eyyy another fella with a squammy, yes you should technically cut the bloom, no i wouldn't either
Anonymous No.5038492
I have a new baby wollemia, the guy I bought it from thought it was a monkey puzzle and sold it to me for cheap. Hoping he doesn't come find me and take my shins
Anonymous No.5038599
Why's my guy turning red? Is he OK?
Anonymous No.5038616 >>5038838
>>5038462
more like Benisferum
Anonymous No.5038626 >>5038838
>>5038462
MOOOODS
Anonymous No.5038634
Protip to people with plants near windows to please check the condition of your windows my blinds fell off and took out my plants and damaged the tips of two of my plants.
Anonymous No.5038660 >>5038699
Any tips for propagating rose cuttings??
Thanks!
Anonymous No.5038699 >>5038826
>>5038660
For semi-hardwood cuttings a mist system yields the best results
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hOFtTEI3F_8&pp=ygURQnVybGluZ3RvbiByb3NlcyDYBuMc
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xXAdrUPNAOI&pp=ygUcRmxvcmV0IGZhcm0gcm9zZSBwcmlwYWdhdGlvbtgGmwrSBwkJsgkBhyohjO8%3D
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qXv5ftjzPtY&pp=ygUgRnJhc2VyIHZhbGxleSByb3NlIGN1dHRpbmdzIG1pc3TYBpAE

Another way is by using humidity domes. Results are average to poor.
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=211r10Jj_OY&pp=ygUbZnJhc2VyIHZhbGxleSByb3NlIGN1dHRpbmdz2AbFAw%3D%3D
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4FicmVqT_a4&pp=ygUpZnJhc2VyIHZhbGxleSByb3NlIGN1dHRpbmdzIGh1bWlkaXR5IGRvbWXYBvsE

For hardwood cuttings:
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nLgSxBufENw&pp=ygUbZnJhc2VyIHZhbGxleSByb3NlIGN1dHRpbmdz
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oM5GpcolIMI&pp=ygUkZnJhc2VyIHZhbGxleSByb3NlIGN1dHRpbmdzIHNvaWxsZXNz.

I'm using the subpar humidity dome method because i dont have the space to set up a mist system and to be honest it's been kicking my ass lol. My success rate so far is probably less than 20%. That being said it also depends on the variety. Some roses root more easily than others. Pic related opened my eyes as to the superiority of a mist system. This cutting accidentally fell out of its tray but rooted regardless because of the perfect humidity.
Anonymous No.5038826
>>5038699
Thanks!
Very helpful!
Anonymous No.5038838 >>5038839
This adansonii arrived all fucked up, only option was to propagate to restart. Taken about a month to reach a third leaf, impressive.
Should group them up in fours, right?

>>5038484
They're so unique and grows really fast too.

>>5038616
>>5038626
What's a vagina plant to pair it with?
Anonymous No.5038839
>>5038838
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Anonymous No.5038924 >>5038975
I used to think prickly pears looked stupid with their 2 dimensional flat circle thing but ive realized its actually an ingenius adaptation to get maximum light as the sun rises and sets while getting the least scorching afternoon sun as possible
Anonymous No.5038975
>>5038924
And you'd think this would mean they're hyperspecialized for hot environments, which they are, but then they're also the de facto most cold hardy and adaptable kind of cactus
Truly fascinating creatures
I can't even call them little creatures, because they get huge!
Anonymous No.5039174 >>5039193
>>5037604 (OP)
Should I plant blueberries bellow a tree? My region is pretty hot all year round (averaging 25c) and only has a a few "cold" weeks (averaging 5c).
Last time I tried planting one the sap dried off pretty quickly so I need some advice
Anonymous No.5039175
>>5037862
Depends on the plant. Some are very tender and will suffer below 10C, while others can tolerate 0C.
I keep my jade plant and a couple of aloes outside all winter, south coast of England and they do really well.
Anonymous No.5039193 >>5039195
>>5039174
Look into southern highbush and rabbit eye varieties. They're more suited for warmer climates. They also require consistent moisture which may be difficult if they're growing underneath a tree
Anonymous No.5039195
>>5039193
I actually tried to grow mine in a open area where it gets constant and direct sun, so that's why I asked if it should be under a tree.
I will look up for different varieties then, thanks for the tip anon
Anonymous No.5039201 >>5039287
>>5037863
Im guessing your area is in a drought?
Anonymous No.5039208
Is it impossible to root madrone cuttings? Has anyone done it?
Anonymous No.5039287
>>5039201
it is constantly overcast, cold and wet so no
Anonymous No.5039570 >>5039623 >>5039627
Stupid question, but if I dig something up from a driveway or by the road, I can be 99% sure it will survive my winters, right?
Anonymous No.5039605
>>5037623
I like it alot, thanks for sharing
Anonymous No.5039623
>>5039570
No. Try to recreate it's substrate it was taken from and it's sun and moisture exposure. Identify the plant
Anonymous No.5039627
>>5039570
Chances are it came from a perennial parent that survived or an annual parent that can successfully reseed itself, but maybe not. Maybe it's just some tropical annual from your neighbor's yard. You have to ID it to be sure.
Anonymous No.5039642
Have to quarantine my spiders away from everything else because cats or rabbits or some shit are eating them.
Came home today to find one of their pots (plastic) squeezed from the bottom as if by human hands, spider torn up and mangled 2 feet away.
Its the desert's jealous vengeance at me growing one (1) thing with traditional leaves
Anonymous No.5039643
How do you distinguish chenopodium? Specifically berlandieri from album.
Anonymous No.5039758 >>5040297
Question:
Virgar is now massively outgrowing the space next to my couch (I repotted him this year and the first tips of his roots are already coming out through the drainage hole again). I would like to plant him outside (Austria) on a spot where a blue spruce is currently standing but will be cut down in the coming years and I was wondering if the soil is fit for a Dicksonia Antarctica. Soil is mostly rock, almost no humus and I assume quite sour. His plant neighbour would be an elderflower.
Pic related from three weeks ago; his newest leaf is 1,78 meters now.
Anonymous No.5039765 >>5039772
>>5038343
The browning is oxidation from being exposed to air. Try keeping them wet.
Anonymous No.5039772
>>5039765
You want to let the cut dry up unless you're doing water propagation, otherwise it'll rot.
Anonymous No.5039828
Anonymous No.5039926 >>5040762
wild virgins bower is blooming rn, how long do i need to wait for seeds?
Anonymous No.5039942
Anonymous No.5040297
>>5039758
They range from tropical to pretty cold areas in Australia, but I don't know how cold Austria gets. They like to grow under taller trees, and Australian forests develop a lot of ground layer keeping them a bit moist - they hate dryness despite being fire/drought hardy like most Australian plants.

If you were to move Virgar outside I'd suggest digging a hole larger than his root ball and adding some richness/moisture retention to the backfill and giving him a nice layer of mulch over the area to help him stay warmer, moist and breakdown over time.

Don't plant too deep, give him some stakes while he re-roots.

Hail Virgar
Anonymous No.5040426 >>5040474 >>5043081
It feels like there's a conspiracy to make sure nobody knows how to keep these, the rare moments it seems like someone might know what they're talking about they drop off the face of the internet before they say anything substantial.
I'm planning on keeping it in water until it roots, putting it in a vermiculite heavy cactus mix with a water tray, and then letting it go dormant for winters.
Does anyone know anything about these? Do they lose their roots the moment they go dormant or just after a really long time of dormancy? I'm not sure if its worth the trouble if I'd have to fully reestablish it each time

Mine also seems to have 2 rosettes which is fun, I didn't even know they did that
Anonymous No.5040466 >>5040472
I got a second giant terracotta pot for free because it's hard wedged into the first and impossible to get out
But now I have to get it out
Ideas?
There's even fucking newspaper in it sealing it tighter
Anonymous No.5040472 >>5040506
>>5040466
Ok I got it out
There's no actual downside to using a comically oversized pot for a plant as long as you use proper soil and aren't stupid about watering them, right? That's just a warning for normies who water everything to death?
Anonymous No.5040474 >>5040476
>>5040426
Aren't they epiphytes? Or am I thinking of something else with the same common name?
Anonymous No.5040476 >>5040478
>>5040474
False rose of Jericho, Selaginella Lepidophylla
A tumbleweed from the chahua desert
Anonymous No.5040478
>>5040476
Ok it's not a tumbleweed but it looks and functions exactly like one
nature
Anonymous No.5040506 >>5041085
>>5040472
Yes
Anonymous No.5040571
Anonymous No.5040762
>>5039926
When the seeds turn brown. Depending where you are it should be within a month.
Anonymous No.5041015
Anonymous No.5041085 >>5041154
>>5040506
Yes what?
Anonymous No.5041154 >>5041499
>>5041085
You can grow small plants in big pots
Anonymous No.5041499
>>5041154
I dunno, that kinda seems like bullshit anon
Anonymous No.5041637 >>5041654 >>5042130
Are there plants I can efficiently use as mosquito deterrant/control(maybe carnivorous plant pr a plant that attracts mosquito predators)?
Anonymous No.5041654 >>5041748 >>5041768
>>5041637
Plants don't really deter them. Having a year-round ecosystem will keep more predators around, birds, hummingbirds, and bats all contribute, but the root problem is the standing water ponds they reproduce in (their larvae are aquatic). Fish and dragonflies have the actual power to stop their life cycle and eliminate them, but you need to own the pond and let them take it over to have an impact. This assumes you even know where they're coming from and aren't just living in a swampy area with random pools everywhere, as they can travel pretty far.

The solution, which won't work, is to just add wildflowers and pollinator stuff. Year-round nectar, seeds, the insects they attract, and water will keep predators around. The issue will only be resolved if you plant this stuff around the actual problem area(s). Mosquitoes actually mostly eat nectar and only need the protein boost from blood to lay their eggs, so technically planting flowers attracts them; not sure if this contributes to them choosing to use a trapped pond, but it stands to reason.
Anonymous No.5041718
>>5037604 (OP)
I find pumpkins kind of fun. About 5 kilograms per vine weight. Weird.
Anonymous No.5041748
>>5041654
Thanks for the reply.
I guess I'm fucked, I do have a pond I can do whatever with, but there is a lake/marsh close to my house.
I do keep an ecosystem with wild flowers and dragonflies visit often but that's not enough.
I heard about bladderwort, but would they "eat" enough mosquitoes?
Anonymous No.5041768
>>5041654
Plant some textile crop and make mosquito nets with it, then cover every entrance into your home with it
Anonymous No.5041806 >>5042130 >>5042131
Bringing a ficus into my home was the worst decision I ever made in my life. Tons of bugs, and more FUCKING MUSHROOMS. How the fuck can I sleep in a room now filled with mushroom spores? I can't even get this trojan horse of a shit plant out because it's too heavy to move.
Anonymous No.5041874
>even the grass is dying because its been so long without rain
>water and fertilize everything because its been forever since I have by hand
>the very next day it rains to rinse all my fertilizer out
Why do I even do anything
Why do I pretend to know any better
Anonymous No.5042058 >>5042284
Some of the sphagnum in my flytrap cup has turned green, is living sphagnum in any way better for carnivores than dead?
I can't wait to harvest it when I put her away for winter, I'll feed isopods with it!
Anonymous No.5042077 >>5042170
>>5038306
I love flowers...
Anonymous No.5042130 >>5042248
>>5041806
There's antifungal bacteria and you can clean the exterior with vinegar. Maybe try a pesticide or just DE. Remember to wear a mask for it. I got an infestation from some free plants and these mystery mites were crawling in my carpet and everywhere. A real dehumidifier helps a ton.

>>5041637
Surface agitation and floating plants drown the larvae. You can dip net for water nymphs or any fish will eat them.
Anonymous No.5042131
>>5041806
Anonymous No.5042163 >>5042182
>first weekend of Spring
>struck by some rapid onset fever and bedridden
Anonymous No.5042170 >>5042274
>>5042077
What plant is that? It looks awesome!
Anonymous No.5042182
>>5042163
just think anon
an entire week of growth you'll never get back
think of all the extra rhizome and root growth everyone elses' plants are getting
16 hours x 7 of full-on sunlight and increased temperatures' worth of sugar your plants will never get back
The feeling of the changing of seasons spurring on even more vigorous growth, another season ticking by in their yearly cycles, telling them they're more mature, it's time to flower, time to produce offsets and grow lush and gigantic
12000 footcandles of pure solar energy in every direction lost every single microsecond they're not out there in the sun
Anonymous No.5042248 >>5042439
>>5042130
I moved a dehumidifier and HEPA air filtration unit into the room and the room is more comfortable for sure.

>mystery mites
There are tons of these and I hate them, but I have hard floors at least so there is no where for them to go. They are in the soil too. What are they? What are they eating?

Either way as soon as I can get some help moving this 70 pound planter it's going outside. This ficus has been in a really unhealthy state for months and I don't think it's going to get better, and at this point I'd rather have the mushrooms and bugs out of my home. My succulents outside are all growing too big for their planters and the aloe plant would surely love a large home.

>while typing this post my cat decided to attack the ficus and if I hadn't intervened he would have killed it right then and there
Anonymous No.5042274
>>5042170
aloe castilloniae, the smooth variant
Anonymous No.5042284
>>5042058
>this is very common and I didnt get really lucky on my first go
Aw man
Anonymous No.5042285
>found thrips again

REEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous No.5042397 >>5042410
Is it the case that literally every single kind of carnivore is a good to decent fit for a terrarium except specifically venus flytraps?
Anonymous No.5042410 >>5042412
>>5042397
No. Any kind of temperate carnivore that needs a winter dormancy isn't suited; dionea, sarracenia, and temperate drosera. Good choices would be tropical sundews, pings or nepenthes (these are more challenging). I've heard of people giving temperate plants a winter dormancy in the refrigerator but even so, carnivores temperate or not need a TON of sunlight not just a windowsill that gets 5 hours in the morning.
Anonymous No.5042412 >>5042416
>>5042410
Do people really keep "terrariums" without overhead lighting??
Why are nepenthes challenging aside from their size?
Anonymous No.5042416 >>5042419
>>5042412
>Do people really keep "terrariums" without overhead lighting??
The sky is the limit in terms of how technical and in-depth you wanna go for houseplants, but the floor is just as low. Tons of etiolated cacti and straggly jades out there.
>Why are nepenthes challenging aside from their size?
I'm no nepenthes expert, but from what I understand many of them need specific humidity and nighttime temperature swings to simulate the highland rainforests they they're native to. There are some very forgiving cultivars that you can find in any old big box nursery though, I think "Bloody Mary" is common.

There was a guy with an impressive nepenthes collection hanging around a few threads ago, maybe he's still around to give a proper explanation.
Anonymous No.5042419 >>5043645
>>5042416
Does this mean I shouldn't add nepenthes to my outdoor collection where Id have to take them in for winter
Anonymous No.5042439 >>5042603
>>5042248
I think probably mold mites but I remember having different looking mites. It was much worse than I could have expected lol. It might be worth just killing and throwing out if you can't get it out soon and the infestation gets worse. Your cat is trying to tell u something..
Anonymous No.5042492
is it still a garden if everything's in pots?
Anonymous No.5042494
my prickly pear pad has grown almost a third of its length worth of roots but it's still wrinkly after being watered and then rained on, am I supposed to still give it MORE water or will it puff back up when its satisfied with its root system?
Anonymous No.5042516
Someone's selling Carrion Flowers
I can put my carnivores next to them
:O
Anonymous No.5042603
>>5042439
I think you may be correct, but unfortunately my cat can't help me move this planter.
Anonymous No.5042932 >>5043207
Are African Milk Tree cuttings supposed to root quickly or do they take forever? Mine's just been sitting still in stasis for at least a month, I'm wondering if I should cut it higher up.
Anonymous No.5043081
>>5040426
i came home to it half curled up and blown a foot or so away from its bowl today, they really just go "No water? I'm out" fast.
Incredible little creature. Still no sign of roots, assuming it didn't chuck off whatever little it might have been growing. I don't know if giving it more rocks in its water bowl will encourage it or not, it's getting full sun now so it should have the energy.
Anonymous No.5043207
>>5042932
I got an African milk tree cutting too and a sliver off the top happened after something fell on it. Is this gonna impact the growth at all? It became crooked to, the object took off some flesh and two spikes on two different sides, the third side remains uneffected and still has it's leaf.
Anonymous No.5043322
Should be fine to water several plants by putting the pots into a bucket of water, shared between them all, right?
I don't have any pests.
Anonymous No.5043528
>loses his marbles outta nowhere
What was it that did him in?
Anonymous No.5043582 >>5043645
These little plants have sprouted by themselves after rainy season started here.
Anyone have any idea what they are?
In central India.
Anonymous No.5043645
>>5042419
I don't know what zone you're in or the local climate. Big box stores like home depot and lowes occasionally have nepenthes so you could give it a shot. Stay away from highland plants though.
>>5043582
Fuck off, jeet.