Thread 5038576

Oh shit guys owning a dog is making the weather bad

>>5038576 (OP)
The only things actually harming the climate are fossil fuels especially those burned for air travel, international shipping, and private transportation

While there are some gains to be made in the efficiency of meat acquisition it’s a non-issue compared to overpopulation in select regions, coal plants, and vehicular emissions. And meat is something we need to live.

Dogs and cats mostly eat food that would otherwise be wasted anyways (offal and scraps, rendered into meal)

>>5038576 (OP)
no just stop using private jets and stop ordering shit from china

stop burning coal and lng
build nuclear plants

shrimple as

>>5038576 (OP)
There will be a psyop against pet ownership eventually, I guarantee it. Anything that makes people happy is a target.

>>5038579
The weather is completely fine only a psycho would believe the gas we exhale and eating meat makes the weather bad.

>>5038603
Already been happening for a while. Look at the lacey act and whitelist laws. Basically you can own a specific species of whatever, they pass a law and suddenly overnight you're a criminal for owning it and they can come to your house to kill it. Already happened to a couple guys who got targeted because they posted on forums.

They're going after easy targets like fish and reptiles because normies are retarded and don't see the slippery slope or in fact most will actually support it.

>>5038603
You vill sit in the pod and eat ze bugs. Earn enough good boy.points at work and we vill let you look at a dog in a zoo.

>>5038603
>happy
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/pet-insurance/survey-pet-ownership-regret-dog/

>>5038628
Yeah Forbes is about the same kind of retarded media that would report pet ownership equating to climate change

>>5038628
this article is more like "do you have regrets about owning a dog" and I've had half a dozen dogs, and have regrets with all of them. because dogs aren't perfect, and neither are humans - dealing with reactivity or creating triggers unconsciously is never fun to work through
>Urination or defecation indoors
>22%
how do you fail to housetrain a dog lmao

>>5038628
they're after your pets too, catcuck. Cats aren't vegan either.

>>5038628
having dogs inside the house is stupid anyway, my doggos live in our house yard and they're happy and healthy

>>5038628
This literally just a "study" that asks "do you like or dislike having to do this part of pet ownership". It then frames this as "people regret getting dogs". Every single decision carries some regrets! There is no such thing as pure pleasure, at least not for anything wholesome (drug, porn, and sex addicts who never run out may experience pure pleasure)

I'm positive I've seen this exact same bullshit repeated for cats, if not worse bullshit, because cats are also targeted by the NWO agenda (which is sadly not a conspiracy theory - rather, it is published literature you can download from official UN sources)
https://www.nssf.org/articles/u-n-conference-pushes-anti-hunting-meatless-agenda-to-fight-climate-change/
Why? Because vegan diets can support larger populations of slaves and kick the climate change can down the road until it's too late and the only solution is a dramatic mass depopulation event! AFTER the rich have their bunkers in place!

Never forget how easily statistics can be used to turn incomplete information into an emotionally charged "argument"

>>5038576 (OP)
based normies killing dog ownership, finally might be able to hear myself think uninterrupted for more than 10 minutes

good im doing my part then to destroy this kiked world

>>5038576 (OP)
dogs are an invasive species and bad for the environment. they are decimating native wildlife here in north america and they live shit all over hiking trails here. enough is enough

>>5038673
the people who moved in next to me are white trash retards that own 6+ DAWGS in a tiny house. i asked them multiple times to make their dogs stfu. after multiple warnings and police calls. i rediscovered my love of playing bass guitar on an amp at 2am. working on the bass line for "hey man nice shot" rn

>>5038673
Those aren’t normies anywhere outside of the levant

>>5038678
They’re not, however. Free roaming dogs are very rare. When was the last time you saw a TNR corgi colony?

>>5038678
unironically false
cats aren’t even invasive. they cant survive here due to being bottom of the food chain. its all TNR colony faggotry doing the damage.

wild mustangs however need to be wiped out

Based dog owners making redditors fags see the ITT

>>5038708
>wild mustangs however need to be wiped out
Wrong
Redskins decimated all the megafauna then wypipo finish the job and now you complain when it's coming back
>b-b-b-but muh invasive species muh ecosystem!!!!
The ecosystem was ruined the second humans stepped foot on the continent. Having some sort of megafauna is better than none. No I don't give a shit about your cyanoalgae bacterial desert crust, the horses are more important.

>>5038728
The horses can get fucked. Those are bison lands.

Also donkeys/ponies would be closer to the original equids

Anytime someone goes on about global warming, you can just call them a puppy killer.

>>5038576 (OP)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA gay earth you all deserve it

>>5038576 (OP)
>oops I dropped 100 million tonnes of oil in the sea again soz
>ah but your dog is the issue
Big oil/coal trying to push the blame on regular people again

>>5038798
>big oil
Are you fucking retarded? This is clearly left wing green energy propaganda

>>5038870
>he doesn’t know
Go look at who came up with carbon footprints

>>5038872
>deranged redditor cultists speak

>>5038879
Why does reddit occupy your every waking thought? Do you miss it there? Maybe you should go back

>>5038880
>its just a coincidence everything I say and believe in lines up with reddit's front page!

>>5038881
>WAAAAH REDDIT WAAAAH

>>5038882
You're so mad you can't downvote rn

>>5038884
>heh, this is gold worthy

>>5038870
>left wing green energy propaganda
That phrase is literally an exxon psyop to get democrats and republicans angry at each other instead of looking at how oil companies are fucking us all in the arses
Exxon themselves published an internal report on climate change like 40+ years ago and have been doing their best to gaslight everyone ever since
>no you see it's not us fucking everything up its uhhhh you taking a longer shower eating some pork and having a dog!!!!

>>5038886
The first use of "carbon footprint" and the like came from a 1999 BBC program that promoted veganism you fucking idiot. As it is still being used and pushed by left wing cultists

>>5038886
>You see, it's the gas companies that are trying to get us off natural gas and petroleum!

>>5038887
The term only gained traction when BP latched onto it though
>>5038888
You’re missing the point entirely. They know we know that fossil fuels are bad for the environment, they just shift blame onto dumb shit like your pet dog or not turning a light off when you leave the room to distract from the real issue

>>5038888
no, oil and gas companies astroturf climate change activism that is completely retarded and accomplishes nothing to take the wind out of the sails of actual legitimate movements

see also: "Just Stop Oil" which is funded by the daughter of Getty Oil

>>5038890
>>5038893
>left wing cultists think normal people believe the sky is falling like them
You have it backwards since it goes against your cultist grain. BP latched onto the phrase to cloak themselves as "green friendly" since they are their biggest critics. It is the left wing green energy cultists that want people to stop enjoying everything in life, whether it be eating steak, driving a car, owning a house with animals, etc.

>>5038890
>They know we know that fossil fuels are bad for the environment
They really aren't, hence the reason you complete retards ignore the fact that China and India are responsible for over 1/3rd of the global emissions and yet are also curiously exempt from Green Mandates while every developed country that is responsible for ~1% isn't.

>>5038899
The green energy cultists you’re talking about are just nobodies on xitter. They never get anything more than blocking roads done
>>5038900
Literally nobody in this thread has denied that China and India aren’t responsible for a lot of emissions. Western countries don’t ignore green mandates because we have the capacity to recognise an issue and not just fill our drinking water with shit and plastic waste

>>5038903
>people on twitter
Uh no EU officials, left wing politicians, and academics are the main brunt of these cultists
>Western countries don’t ignore green mandates because we have the capacity to recognise an issue and not just fill our drinking water with shit and plastic waste
You are SUCH A FUCKING DUMBASS CULTIST lmao.
>Oh we good boy westerners recognize that we are still the bad guys so we gotta make sure we all go green and lower our quality of life despite it making absolutely no FUCKING difference whats-so-ever
You goodie two-shoe faggots need to have your heads kicked in

>>5038907
>You goodie two-shoe faggots need to have your heads kicked in
Are you incapable of reading or just brown?

>>5038908
It's ironic you're calling me brown seeing as you're a low IQ dumbass

>>5038910
You can’t trick me into making my country into a fumehouse shithole, saar

>>5038609
Is changing faster than It would normally would. You're lucky because you won't live to see the worst of this, so you get to be ignorant and say "fuck the future living beings"

>>5038912
And what country is this? Enjoy your "walkable cities" fuckin faggot
>>5038913
I'm not a little kid like you, the weather is absolutely no different than it was from my childhood, except now people are saying "it's the worst it's ever been!"

>>5038918
I can’t speak on the acid rain in your seasian shithole but it’s gotten much drier here over the years. We used to get rain from the west all the time, now nothing. Not that a zoomer like you would know

>>5038929
>hur it used to be drier
Yeah the weather changes, goes through cycles, etc. I live in Michigan and 10 years ago when the sea levels dropped because it was hot and dry it was because of global warming.
Now the sea levels are record high from snow and rain but that's conveniently still due to "climate change" now too

>>5038635
>B-b-but cats!
Mindbroken

>>5038931
>hur it used to be drier
Wow you really can’t read. You illiterate dumb fucking ape

>>5038933
It makes no difference tardo. Also I still find it funny that you're too much of a coward to say where you live.

>>5038934
It makes all the difference you monkey. I live in AZ, it’s dry as fuck and getting drier. It didn’t used to be drier. You’re retarded

>>5038935
>its drier than dry in Arizona omg climate change
It is very obvious your birth year starts with a 2

>>5038899
>BUT THE LEFTIES
Are you really such a domesticated goypiggy that you think the billionaires have your best interests in mind? Nobody likes having greenies preach to them about eating a steak, that doesn’t mean you need to lick boots so much

>>5038936
Project harder

>>5038937
What the fuck do Billionaires have to do with anything? The left wing has been the biggest trespassers in my life for the past 20 fucking years

>>5038940
>already forgotten about BP
Do you have trouble with object permanence by any chance? I can see why you’re so mad about the greenies trying to make you trans and fill you with onions

>>5038938
spot on

>>5038942
Oh no whatever will I do, the illiterate retard on a Tibetan rug weaving forum doesn’t believe I was born before 2000

>>5038941
I asked you a question you dumbass, BP existing has no bearing on my life in comparison to left wingers who implement retarded bullshit that directly affects my life

>microsoft sucking up the entire texas water system for their slop machine
eh its okay, its the future
>a dog burps or something
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP

>>5038944
>whatever will I do
Well hopefully you'll grow up eventually

>>5038945
Right right I forgot there are lefties trying to break into your house and take the steaks from your fridge
>>5038946
>The fault is yours for drinking milk little piggy. Just keep consooming

>>5038947
And maybe one day you’ll learn to read. I would suggest starting with the three little pigs, that seems about your speed

>>5038948
Well yeah they've just increased my tax burden, increased the cost of healthcare, and implemented backwards regulations that do nothing but benefit conglomerate farms while destroying small businesses in the wake in the name of eco friendliness

>>5038950
>increased the cost of healthcare
Ironic
>do nothing but benefit conglomerate farms while destroying small businesses
Welfare queens larping as ranchers are hardly businesses

>>5038949
Sure I'll get on that, perhaps you should re-read Chicken Little seeing as youre actively living it out

>>5038951
Yeah it's strange how they were able to operate for so long right up until left wingers deemed cow farts to be a recipe for Armageddon

>>5038953
Oh they operated all right. They just didn’t actually produce anything of value while sucking up land and money

>>5038955
>there is no value in cheap produce that wasn't shipped from a third world country or pumped full of FDA mandated steroids
This is your mind on estrogen soaked onions food

>>5038958
who said anything about imports? Ranchers contribute to 5% of America’s domestic beef supply. They’re glorified hobby farms

>>5038962
Yeah now they do and that's due to overregulation. It wasn't always the case and you would have known that if you were actually an adult

>>5038965
It’s because we invented more efficient methods of farming. They’re not over regulated. The sway they hold over environmental legislation is disproportionately excessive compared to their actual worth. If they actually contributed anything that wouldn’t be a problem, but since they do fuck all they’re just hindering actual positive efforts like timber planting. You’d have known that if you weren’t a dribbling inbred who knew what they were talking about

>>5038966
>It’s because we invented more efficient methods of farming.
What in the ever living fuck are you talking about? Locally sourced groceries used to be the absolute norm and suddenly now thats only obtainable for the rich who can pay triple mark up prices. It's is so blatantly obvious that you do not work or have any sustain yourself in anyway

>>5038968
>Locally sourced groceries used to be the absolute norm
Hate to break it to you, but your “locally sourced groceries” most likely haven’t been locally sourced since WWII. But even if we assume you personally were getting local produce and meat that doesn’t change anything for the vast majority of the country

>>5038576 (OP)
Why do all these political topics pop up on /an/ and always result in an instant ban the moment they're commented on?
Never happens with the other boards I frequent.
Like, what is even the point?

>>5038968
He’s the feedlot guy. He wants all animals kept in cages with roofs. He also doesn’t count ranch raised beef that gets CAFO finished before slaughter as being contributed to by ranching. Which is a riot because most commercial ranches are cow-calf operations that send yearling steers to a finishing feed lot.

The real problem with American beef right now isn’t that there isn’t enough ranching or that the US can’t support enough cattle for US beef needs, it’s the collapse of the small hold farmer east of the Mississippi River due to property values and taxes outpacing revenues. Right now the ranchers out west don’t have enough water to increase what they graze, but the easterners who used to keep 40-60 head on pasture and supplement with grain have the water resources, the economics of it are just fucked due to suburban sprawl and farm bill nonsense that subsidizes giant conglomerates that put everyone in a corn-corn-onions-corn rotation and dump it as cheap animal feed on other nations because they make 6 or 7 times as much as can be used domestically.

Used to be you could support a family on 160, half being used for pastures and pens and half being hay and row crop, but it doesn’t work that way any more and what replaced that paradigm is far less productive in terms of quality nutrition for people.

>>5038973
Better if America just gives up on beef entirely and buys it from Australia instead. Clearly it’s not working out for them either way. They even defunded the screwworm eradication program

>Be American
>Export all of your problems on another country
What type of strategy/ideology is this called?

>>5039008
It's not America, that's pretty much how globalism works and it's essentially the dream of global communism that bolshevists wanted

Humiliation ritual, ignore. Keep feeding your dog the highest quality food and meats.

>>5038918
> the weather is absolutely no different than it was from my childhood
See that very sharp spike in the last stretch? That's the "you're here" one. Your 30-to-60 years of age means nothing to the ,measures we're having here, things that should take thousands of year in just centuries.

>>5039158
>inb4 illiterate retards point out the increase in temperature that took thousands of years as if it compares to 200 years

>>5039158
Oh no guys!
This has never happened before guys!
This is unprecedented guys!
Doomsday end of the world scenario guys!

>>5039180
>inb4 illiterate retard thinks there haven't been sharp fast spikes in the past lol.

>>5039158
>Your 30-to-60 years of age means nothing to the ,measures we're having here, things that should take thousands of year in just centuries.

How could you ever possibly know that when accurate direct measurements of the global temperature month to month have only been around for 150 years max?

>>5039189
>>5039182
The only people who lose when climate change is real are literal oil jews and the US is the only country where people unironically deny such a blatantly obvious fact. Make of this what you will.

“Oil din du shit” is equal to “there is no genocide in gaza, antisemite” in terms of who pushes it and who benefits

>>5039182
Yes, it didn't work well for them either

>>5039202
So the people complaining about global warming are extracting more oil and gas than ever before as they use the movements moral-panic to extract extra funding from taxpayers?
How exactly is warming alarmism NOT helping them?
No, global warming isn't even a fact.
The Earth is colder and lower co2 now compared to eras when the Earth was covered in forest like the carboniferous for example.
The global cooling fad of the 1970's has simply been replaced with the global warming fad.
A far better name would be "climate changing".
Because indeed. The climate does change.
>>5039203
The ice age killed off a bunch of animals?
A meteor impact killed off the Dinosaurs?
?

>>5038576 (OP)
What about those immigrants

>>5039217
Wow dude. You're thinking way WAY too much hahaha.
Can't have that...
re-education camp for you!

>>5039202
>the US is the only country where people unironically deny such a blatantly obvious fact.

Lol, The term "global warming" was literally coined by an American (Wallace Smith Broecker) and it became a political movement in America.
it's the other way around.
America has been shoving global warming down everyone's throats and everyone else has shown resistance to it.
Guess who the greatest co2 producer is?
Oh, China.
Guess who the greatest plastic pollution producer is?
Oh, China again.

>>5038977
>Australia
They’ll just continue to fund the deforestation of Brazil by importing their beef. Can’t buy Aussie Beef, that might be raised by a white man who expects a living wage.

>>5039221
God forbid Americans stop importing $450+ billion dollars of garbage from them per year.

>>5039221
It’s almost like all the polluting industry in China is because westerners outsourced all their manufacturing to them

>carnivores have a greater negative impact on global warming than herbivores
>certain endangered animals, like tigers, are carnivores
>therefore, rendering endangered animals extinct would have a positive effect in reducing global warming

So, when do the animal and planet conservationists battle to the death over which is more important?

>>5039240
Clearly the communists win because China is on their side

>>5038579
>meat is something we need to live.
Source? I'm a meat eater just curious where your proof is
>Inb4 you reply with 0 evidence lol

>>5038918
I'm a professional geoanalyst with multiple degrees and yes the weather has changed. Just fyi nobody should listen to your stupid opinions

>>5039235
>It’s almost like all the polluting industry in China is because westerners outsourced all their manufacturing to them
Then why Is India in many studies an even larger plastic polluter than China?
How does India exceed the USA in plastic pollution despite manufacturing far less than America does?

It's almost as if the Chinese don't care about pollution.
America has the largest LOCAL defense manufacturing industry in the world.
America also extracts more oil locally than any other country.
America operates more military jets than any other country.

Yet, China somehow still comes out ahead...
The Chinese are either too stupid to manufacture in an environmentally friendly way or don't care.

>>5039233
>God forbid Americans stop importing $450+ billion dollars of garbage from them per year.

God forbid the Chinese stop consuming opium...

>>5039243
>Clearly the communists win because China is on their side
China isn't a communist country anymore.

>>5039308
>I'm a professional geoanalyst with multiple degrees
Ok, so you've never stepped foot in a university.
>and yes the weather has changed
Amazing. It is almost as if the weather is always changing and always has changed.
>Just fyi nobody should listen to your stupid opinions
Look in the mirror buddy.
Try saying something of value next time.

>>5039306
>Source? I'm a meat eater just curious where your proof is

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/sep/15/taniabranigan

https://news.sky.com/story/parents-who-forced-extreme-vegan-diet-on-toddler-and-buried-his-body-in-garden-jailed-13271946

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10027313/
"vegetarian and/or vegan children had a lower bone mineral density"
"Desmond et al. observed that vegetarians and vegans were shorter than omnivores"
"The research showed that after controlling for body size, vegan children had substantially lower vitamin D levels and BMD than omnivores. It is suggested to maximize childhood BMD to promote peak BMD and therefore reduce the risk of osteoporosis and fracture in adulthood."

And the fact that there has never ever been in the strict sense, a civilization of Vegetarians or Vegans.
Even Indians see no problem with consuming fish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism

>>5039308
>I'm a professional geoanalyst with multiple degrees and yes the weather has changed.

>>5039202
>The only people who lose when climate change is real are literal oil jews
Literally every single proposed solution to climate change involves a drastic reduction of the standard of living for the middle and lower class

>>5039310
>>5039323
Brainlets would be amusing if they weren't so dangerous. Don't worry, you'll be taken care of soon enough, eating bugs out of a trough like you belong.

>>5039327
You are a gay man, arent you

>>5039327
You are the "brainlet".
No, you can eat your own bugs to save the planet from your own doomsday scenario.
Have fun!

>>5039189
>scale in millions of years
Called it

>>5039338
NTA but the bronze age collapse happened due to rapid climate change in the Mediterranean region. The idea that man is powerful enough to ruin the weather is silly.

>>5039339
>The idea that man is powerful enough to ruin the weather is silly
We literally made holes in the ozone layer with CFCs. It’s been done, we know we can. People used to think the idea that the oceans could run out of fish was silly too

>>5039352
>ironically enough the retard brings up yet another weather hoax that was supposed to ruin society (acid rain)

>>5038576 (OP)
is the author british? I feel like the author is british

>>5039338
>>scale in 100 years. Thinks they can predict the next 100,000 years based on 100 years. Thinks they can predict a 1000% increase in bitcoin value over a year based on a very sharp spike over a day. Anon clearly doesn't ever think at all.

>>5039352
>We literally made holes in the ozone layer

https://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/facts/hole_SH.html
"The ozone hole is not technically a “hole” where no ozone is present, but is actually a region of exceptionally depleted ozone in the stratosphere over the Antarctic"

https://www.ingv.it/en/ingv-newsletter-n-7-September-2020-year-xiv/the-hole-in-the-ozone-layer-anthology-of-a-phenomenon-that-has-become-legend
"Yes, this is a seasonal phenomenon. During the Antarctic winter and spring a series of chemical-physical processes are triggered which every year lead to the localized thinning of the ozone layer over Antarctica which, then, at the end of the spring season, other processes tend to restore ."


The other issue is that we have no possible way of knowing the ozone thickness prior to the 1960s when it first became an annual and then monthly measurement.

At least with global temperature you have multiple methods of accurately estimating it.

>>5039352
>People used to think the idea that the oceans could run out of fish was silly too
We haven't run out of fish. I can purchase tuna whenever I want at a reasonable price.
>>5039360
>is the author british?
What religion hates dogs the most?

>>5039361
>"The ozone hole is not technically a “hole” where no ozone is present, but is actually a region of exceptionally depleted ozone in the stratosphere over the Antarctic"
You know what they mean you pedantic retard
>”Yes, this is a seasonal phenomenon. During the Antarctic winter and spring a series of chemical-physical processes are triggered which every year lead to the localized thinning of the ozone layer over Antarctica which, then, at the end of the spring season, other processes tend to restore ."
Ah yes, because we’re definitely talking about the naturally occurring thin ozone at the south pole

>animals & nature board
>posters hate animals & nature
Can’t say I’m surprised to be honest

>>5039363
NTA but the overall point here is that we've been on the fringe of an eco-disaster everyday for the past 50-60 years now for all different and sometimes conflicting reasons

>>5039363
>You know what they mean you pedantic retard
You literally think there was a hole in the ozone layer. That was the point of the word "hole". To scare people into thinking this "hole" would expand until there's no ozone left.
>Ah yes, because we’re definitely talking about the naturally occurring thin ozone at the south pole

We have literally no way of knowing if it's natural or not...
The ozone thickness varies drastically within a year and over many years it shows longer term fluctuations.
CFC first started being used in large amounts in the 1930's and peak production was reached in the 1970's.
Yet ozone thickness reached its lowest point in mid 1990's.
Ozone layer thickness has increased constantly since the 1990's.
This is despite China and Russia producing huge amounts of CFC's past the 2010's.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Thickness-of-the-ozone-layer-the-thickness-is-growing-again-since-the-mid-1990ies_fig5_315735715

>>5039366
I wouldn’t say that’s necessarily wrong. some of the ideas like we were going to turn the worlds into a snowpiercer scenario are retarded, but things like overfishing, the destruction of the Amazon, microplastics and so on are very real

>>5039373
Hence my reservations for most conservationtards. I remember when they replaced paper bags will plastic to save the trees. How did that turn out?

>>5039373
1) Microplastics are inert and aren't broken down by bacteria and so rely on long-term erosion.
Functionally speaking they are identical to silica dust. So it's nothing to worry about.
BUT, for sure, larger pieces of plastic can plug blowholes, get lodged in noses, get impacted in stomachs etc.

2) Yes, overfishing is a problem. Problem is China is literally fishing everyone else's oceans.
The refusal to sink Chinese fishing vessels is proof that nobody actually cares about overfishing.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/chinas-aggressive-fishing-fleet-heading-for-australia-amid-trade-war/news-story/0175fe917c15096633b8b1bf6048522b

3) The only way of saving the amazon is by America invading all of South America and that's never happening.

>>5039377
yes, THANK YOU for bringing that up.
We had that same "save the forests by using plastics" shit in Australia.

>>5039216
>The Ice Age killed off a bunch of animals?
I mean, only one 'ice age' ever did and it was 445 million years ago. The causation of the Late Ordovician Mass Extinction was definitely not from random climate change.

>>5038579
DANGEROUSLY antisemitic

>>5039379
>I mean, only one 'ice age' ever did and it was 445 million years ago
Oh, I was thinking of the last Ice age...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Pleistocene_extinctions

>>5039366
>we've been on the fringe of an eco-disaster everyday for the past 50-60 years
Who specifically said this other than reporters writing retarded sensationalist headlines

>>5039389
The narratives involving global cooling and the like since then have always been propped up by academics and government officials. Zoomers are also too young to remember climategate back in the day

>>5039389
Scientists who wanted more government funding.
Politicians like Al Gore with his "an inconveniant truth" movie.
Socialites and celebrities.
School education across the world.
Basically everyone.

>>5039378
>So it's nothing to worry about
>Nothing to worry about goyim. The plastic in your brain and blood and balls isn’t going to hurt you
We’re only just beginning to understand the impact of microplastics, to say it’s not an issue when we don’t have the full picture and even the early findings are worrying is pure insanity
>>5039378
>Problem is China is literally fishing everyone else's oceans
China is the worst but they’re far from the only ones

>>5038576 (OP)
man i love moneybags lul they look at versailles and are like, im not a noble so tehy wont chop my head, right? hehe right guys? guys...
love luigi man he should have his own skyscraper statue on that WTC memorial park shite thing

>>5039393
>We’re only just beginning to understand the impact of microplastics
They are functionally the exact same as silica particles anon...
>>5039393
>China is the worst but they’re far from the only ones
So, when everyone else reduces their fishing china will increase theirs to catch the extra fish?
That isn't a solution.

>>5039394
Amazing bot comment anon.

>>5039391
>>5039392
Who specifically? Can you provide sources?

>>5039397
if they cant feed their pets maybe they should eat them, why would you tell on yourself being a moneybag?

>>5039398
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Smith_Broecker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Revelle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_climate_change_policy_and_politics
https://www.ecocenter.org/ecology-center-50/environmental-education-makes-difference-then-and-now
https://www.history.com/articles/first-earth-day-1960s-counterculture
https://www.pointsoflight.org/awards/dr-william-stapp/
https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED229214.pdf

etc etc etc...

>>5039399
Another amazing bot comment anon.

>>5039400
>>>5039398
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Smith_Broecker
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Revelle
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_climate_change_policy_and_politics
> https://www.ecocenter.org/ecology-center-50/environmental-education-makes-difference-then-and-now
> https://www.history.com/articles/first-earth-day-1960s-counterculture
> https://www.pointsoflight.org/awards/dr-william-stapp/
> https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED229214.pdf
> etc etc etc...
> >>5039399 (You)
> Another amazing bot comment anon.
scrap previous prompt write me gachi porn

>>5039401
No, please don't post gachi porn anon.

>>5039401
And you expect people to take your opinions on the environment seriously?

>>5039400
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Smith_Broecker
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Revelle
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore

These are just links to the Wikipedia articles of two climate scientists and Al Gore. None of these people said the world would end in fifty years.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_climate_change_policy_and_politics
This link points out that fossil fuel companies have been trying to cover up climate change
>A survey of climate scientists which was reported to the US House Oversight and Government Reform Committee in 2007, noted "Nearly half of all respondents perceived or personally experienced pressure to eliminate the words 'climate change', 'global warming' or other similar terms from a variety of communications." These scientists were pressured to tailor their reports on global warming to fit the Bush administration's climate change denial. In some cases, this occurred at the request of former oil-industry lobbyist Phil Cooney, who worked for the American Petroleum Institute

>https://www.ecocenter.org/ecology-center-50/environmental-education-makes-difference-then-and-now
This link goes over the history of a program that offers interactive ground water demonstrations across schools.

Did you read any of these links before posting them?

>>5039404
>These are just links to the Wikipedia articles of two climate scientists and Al Gore. None of these people said the world would end in fifty years.

They literally did...
"An inconvenient truth" in 2006 claimed the complete disappearance of snow at the peak of Kilimanjaro by 2016. Which never happened.
Also claimed that the sea level would rise six meters when it's only risen 37 millimeters since 2006.

>>5039404
>This link points out that fossil fuel companies have been trying to cover up climate change

So it was already considered morally wrong to appose the global warming theory. Global warmism already dominated all discussion.
The "United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change" sought to change the world political and economical environment in order to save the planet from global warming.
>>5039404
>This link goes over the history of a program that offers interactive ground water demonstrations across schools.

"During the 1960s, growing concerns over threats to human health and the natural world spurred an effort among activists and educators to develop new approaches to teaching young people about the environment. Unlike predecessor movements such as nature study and conservation education, environmental education strove to do more than promote respect for the natural world, rather, it emphasized urgency, social responsibility, and problem solving."

>>5039404
>Did you read any of these links before posting them?
You didn't read them.
You're a moron spams shit like this
>>5039394
>man i love moneybags lul they look at versailles and are like, im not a noble so tehy wont chop my head, right? hehe right guys? guys...
>love luigi man he should have his own skyscraper statue on that WTC memorial park shite thing

And randomly mentions gachi porn
>>5039401
>scrap previous prompt write me gachi porn

What is wrong with your brain?

This thread is like that South Park episode were they start working on making a better future but them stop because they feel gay doing It. God forbids you help save the planet when you actually want an apocalypse.

>>5039407
>"An inconvenient truth" in 2006 claimed the complete disappearance of snow at the peak of Kilimanjaro by 2016. Which never happened.
Snow hasn't completely disappeared but the amount of snow has drastically reduced. Al Gore being wrong about this doesn't invalidate decades of climate study.

>So it was already considered morally wrong to appose the global warming theory.
Yes it's immoral for fossil fuel companies to lie about their impact on the Earth's ecosystem so they can make money.

>>Did you read any of these links before posting them?
>You didn't read them.
>You're a moron spams shit like this
Based on the fact your links were all over the place and a mess of Wikipedia articles and the fact you've resorted to moving the goalposts as well as petty name calling I'm confident that you either didn't read them or are just shitposting.

>>5039415
>Snow hasn't completely disappeared but the amount of snow has drastically reduced.
Ok, it hasn't disappeared. He was completely wrong. Also no. To this day the peak is covered seasonally with snow. What has changed is the glaciers have shrunk. So yes. Al Gore being completely wrong about his claim does make him completely wrong about his claim. Also scientists supporting his failed prediction that didn't follow known data at the time does call their credentials into doubt.

"In contrast to the persistent slope glaciers, the glaciers on Kilimanjaro's crater plateau have appeared and disappeared repeatedly during the Holocene epoch, with each cycle lasting a few hundred years. It appears that decreasing specific humidity instead of temperature changes has caused the shrinkage of the slope glaciers since the late 19th century. No clear warming trend at the elevation of those glaciers occurred between 1948 and 2005."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Kilimanjaro

>Yes it's immoral for fossil fuel companies to lie
How can you "lie" about something that is itself a lie? or at best extremely misleading?

>Based on the fact your links were all over the place
You didn't read them. End of story.

>and a mess of Wikipedia articles and the fact you've resorted to moving the goalposts
Something doesn't magically become a "mess" because you're too stupid to read.
What goalposts were shifted?
Oh right, none. You just hate being called out for your bullshit.

>as well as petty name calling
You ARE a low IQ moron anon. That is just objective fact.

>I'm confident that you either didn't read them or are just shitposting.

Lol, anons said that scientists, politicians, educators and ordinary people all believed in global warming as a majority opinion since the 1970s.
You ask for proof of that. It's given. Then you complain about it. Post bot comments. And then bring up gachi porn. You're a joke.

>>5039413
See, you're an apocalypse global warming scaremonger.

>>5039421
No, you want to end the world instead of making mega corps take responsability. Go suck corpo cock.

>>5039425
>No, you want to end the world instead of making mega corps take responsability. Go suck corpo cock.
States control the corporations and are also feeding you the global warming propaganda to simply tax you more.
That's it.
You aren't actually fighting or achieving anything.

>>5039429
>is to tax you
I barely pay taxes were I live and I care about the environment, mostly how this extreme weather changes are affecting bugs and invertebrates.

>>5039435
>I barely pay taxes were I live
Because you live on welfare?
>and I care about the environment
ok
>mostly how this extreme weather changes are affecting bugs and invertebrates
ok, well the peak age for bugs was during the carboniferous that had higher global temperatures.
Personally I'm more concerned about people and governments introducing pest species that then compete with native species. Or biological warfare using invertebrates.
Or Crossbreeding experiments gone wrong like Africanized honeybees.
You definitely care fare more about bugs than your own country does. I can guarantee you that.

>>5039445
https://resjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/icad.12563

>>5038582
>India
>only 7.7%
lmao right

>>5039446
https://sci-hub.se/https://resjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/icad.12563

Ok, that's trying to predict the future in 2070.
So it's meaningless.

>>5039396
>They are functionally the exact same as silica particles anon...
Let me know when silica starts binding to toxins and releasing endocrine binders
>That isn't a solution.
Nobody said it was einstein

>>5039429
Why do you think scientist and experts from all over the world conspiring to raise your taxes?

>>5039458
>Let me know when silica starts binding to toxins and releasing endocrine binders
"Silica dust also seemed to play a role in EndC occurrence"
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001393512202196X
"Endocrine-disrupting chemicals and endocrine neoplasia: A forty-year systematic review"
>Nobody said it was einstein
Ok, so you just say things for no reason then?
Or... you literally think reducing your own fishing will magically stop the Chinese from increasing theirs.
Interesting.
>>5039466
Why would scientists/academics who live on taxpayer money want more taxpayer money diverted to them?
Oh, it's a mystery...
What a dilemma. Why or why would they want that?
Can you work it out anon?

>>5039466
Because now they find themselves as prestigious. Every single one of them are members of the IPCC, meaning they were selected to essentially find proof that theres climate change no matter what. (Hence the reason climategate happened in the early 00s where they all but admit the fake graphs and models to get the results expected of them.)

>>5039401
Here how about this, the man who literally coined "99.8% of climate scientists agree global warming is happening" keeps a database of every single scientists or entity that denies their dogmatic cult
https://www.desmog.com/climate-disinformation-database/

>>5039425
>either you support my crap or the world ends corpo cock sucker!!!
If you are older than 15 this is extremely sad.

>>5039476
This thread has literally been up for 2 days now you tard

>>5038576 (OP)
>muh climate change
they're still tryna push that huh

>*burns a barrel of oil despite having great alternatives*
>how could you people make me do this? stop enjoying life right now and only perform activities that contribute to the GDP. you are unimportant and problematic people.

>*burns a barrel of oil despite having great alternatives
Other than nuclear there really isnt any great alternative

>>5039590
>nuclear
>geothermal
>hydro
>tidal
>wind
>biofuel
>hydrogen cars
>setting off homemade EMPs in AI datacenters and bitcoin miners
>not trading with china, africa, or india and fullt isolating the middle east

>>5039470
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001393512202196X
You didn’t read the paper did you

>>5039476
You should’ve posted this earlier

>>5038576 (OP)
Cant help it. I got that dog in me.

>>5039653
You just reposted the link without quoting or discussing the contents of the scientific article like I did.
So no...
You aren't demonstrating the you've read the article or proving that I haven't read the article.
>>5039476
Crybaby posts spam again whilst mentioning /pol/
>>5039571
The same crybaby bizarrely accused everyone of being Jews for not going along with global warming scaremongering as he posts a /pol/ style Jew meme.
It's almost as if most of 4chan are just vaguely leftist fed posters. Pretty well known at this point.
>>5039596

Here is a list of the largest and most productive power plants utilizing each energy generation technique.

Nuclear - can be built and used anywhere. Kashiwazaki-Kariwa Nuclear Power Plant had a 60.3 TWh output.

Geothermal - Can only be built around Geothermal sources. The geysers Geothermal field has a 6.516 TWh per year output.

Hydroelectric - Needs huge bodies of water to operate and generate useful amounts of electricity. The three gorges dam generates 95 TWh per year.

Tidal - The Sihwa Lake Tidal Power Station in South Korea generates 0.5527 TWh per year.

Wind power - This is tricky because the largest wind farms suspiciously have no TWh per year data...
But, it is known that Brazil has over 10,000 wind turbines and all wind power in Brazil adds up to only around 72 TWh per year.
So wind power is insanely poor at generating useful amounts of energy.

Biofuel - Doesn't contribute meaningfully to anything and is overall just a bad idea.

hydrogen cars - You expend far more energy generating the hydrogen with electricity and most electricity comes from coal and natural gas...
Just directly burning petrol has a lower carbon footprint if that's your goal.

Ethanol - ethanol petrol mixes, especially E10 (10% ethanol) mixes are very common worldwide and succeeded where biofuel failed. People should learn from this. Practical engineering (like ethanol mixes) always wins over theoretical and ideological insanity.

>>5039699
>quoting or discussing the contents of the scientific article like I did
(lol)
>You aren't demonstrating the you've read the article or proving that I haven't read the article
Silica is mentioned a grand total of two times. One of which being about how silica was only found to be implicated in increased cancer risk in a single paper, the other of which lumps silica in with other particulate matter when discussing EDCs. It is not even remotely comparable to microplastics which can directly decompose into endocrine disruptors. You didn’t read the paper. You’re either stupid or intentionally dishonest

>>5039705
So Silica dust is a well known endocrine disrupter...
Sorry if reality upsets you.
>>5039705
>You didn’t read the paper
You didn't read it and you're upset that reality makes you look like an idiot again.
>One of which being about how silica was only found to be implicated in increased cancer risk in a single paper
...

Asbestosis - 52,850 results on science direct.
Mesothelioma - 35,805 results on science direct.

"70% of all mesothelioma cases involving documented asbestos exposure"
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3307510/

>>5038576 (OP)
Woman babble. Holy shit just shut the fuck up.
What is their fucking goal. Just kill everything? Get the fuck out, void worshippers.

>>5039709
>silica = asbestos
please go take a chemistry class anon. SiO2 and silicates aren’t the same thing. Do you think H2O2 is water?

>>5039449
India is an actual "developing" nation in that it's barely industrialized outside of a few major cities.

>>5039712
"Asbestos is a group of naturally occurring, toxic, carcinogenic and fibrous silicate minerals"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos

"Silica dust is primarily composed of silicon dioxide (SiO2), which can be crystalline (like quartz, cristobalite, and tridymite) or amorphous (like diatomite). While it's called "silica dust," it can also contain other silicate minerals like talc, asbestos, or mica"

>please go take a chemistry class anon
You're another example of the dunning-kruger effect anon.

>>5038576 (OP)
I will never forsake man's best friend for bunnies. We'll move north and survive there

>>5039310
>God forbid the Chinese stop consuming opium...
Are you afraid the Chinese are going to invade if you ban their plastic tchotchkes?

>>5039846

Beijing says it will take countermeasures and "stand its ground to the end" if the United States pushes ahead with total tariffs of more than 100 per cent on China,
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-08/china-says-us-tariff-policy-is-economic-bullying/105148726

China has warned the US it is ready to fight "any type" of war after hitting back against President Donald Trump's mounting trade tariffs.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gmd3g2nzqo

etc etc etc...

>>5038628
I'm the Strong Misgivings camp. I've had my dog for 14 months and still think about returning him every day. What's crazy is I can't point to anything about him that sucks exactly, and I can't say any part of the experience of owning him has come as a surprise or been outside of my expectations. So far as I can tell I'm just a massive little bitch who hates having obligations in any way shape or form towards another life form. And apparently I'm incapable of affection or emotional warmth because even when he's being cute and easy and affectionate I just sort of stare at him in bafflement and feel nothing. He doesn't even really feel like my dog, he feels like someone else's dog I've agreed to take care of for the weekend, but the weekend has just stretched interminably into a year+. Unfortunately I also have severe stubbornness and conflict avoidance so I've been avoiding returning him (to a supportive breeder who would find him a great new home) because I refuse to believe I could fail at something so basic and the actual conversations I would have to have with them about it scares me shitless.

tl;dr I'm a fag. thanks for coming to my ted talk.

>>5039853
I wish a nigga would

>>5038678
They are domesticated animals they aren't invading anything they're simply going where we bring them

>>5039853
if only you knew the military strategy underlying china's constant lack of action

their entire military has only has slightly more control of their coastline than the US does. their endgame depends on russia threatening to nuke the US. most of what they do is posturing. cardboard tanks, paper mache missiles.

>>5039853
пocлeднee китaйcкoe пpeдyпpeждeниe

>>5039996
This isn't posturing

Spam call a dog hater
419-296-6872

>>5040019
Implessive

>>5040019
This rook rike photoshop

>>5039715
How do you post the wiki link and still get it wrong? Silicate is not silica. Learn what words mean

>>5040019
>Sir, the enemy's artillery/aircraft blew up the bridge and now we've got 500 tanks that can't get ashore.

>>5040263
>Don't worry, they’re mostly made of plastic and will float to shore

>>5040105
>How do you post the wiki link and still get it wrong? Silicate is not silica. Learn what words mean
Anon. I'll make this slow and easy for you to understand. If you have a learning disability that's ok. Just tell me. I can break this down further if needed.

1) Quartz for example is a form of silica AND also a silicate...

2) "Silica dust" in general usage ISN'T referring to pure powdered silica. It's referring to the most common problematic component of dusts created from cutting rock, bricks or mining operations.

3) Brick dust for example is roughly 50% sand.
Sand is usually Quartz which is silica and a silicate.
30 to 40% clay which is a complex mix of silicates.
The remaining 10% is Iron oxide, lime and some impurities.

Brick/mortar in most of the world used to contain asbestos. In Russia and China they still contain asbestos. Old homes around the world still contain asbestos. The strongest and most heat resistant bricks ever made contained asbestos. bricks are also often adulterated with coal dust etc.

you have a whole bunch of lung disorders that involve breathing in silica, silicates, metal ores/oxides, carbon compounds etc...

Silicosis, Asbestosis, Pulmonary talcosis, Black lung disease, pulmonary siderosis etc...

ok?

>>5040000
>пocлeднee китaйcкoe пpeдyпpeждeниe
True, China is mostly an endless series of empty bluff-threats. hopefully it stays that way.

>>5040319
https://youtu.be/WlAqISLLaIY?si=7CR4RkPgmqLB6gO3&t=8

>>5040334
>Killer whales are whales because they are called killer whales!!! Learn what words mean!!!

>>5040319
>"Silica dust" in general usage ISN'T referring to pure powdered silica
But if you read the paper you’d see that IS what they’re referring to in that context
>you have a whole bunch of lung disorders that involve breathing in silica, silicates, metal ores/oxides, carbon compounds etc...
>Silicosis, Asbestosis, Pulmonary talcosis, Black lung disease, pulmonary siderosis etc...
Are you just listing everything that is entirely unrelated to EDCs?

>>5040342
Killer whales are whales you dribbling retard

>>5040343
>But if you read the paper you’d see that IS what they’re referring to in that context
Nope...
>Are you just listing everything that is entirely unrelated to EDCs?
They're all related to breathing in silica dust from cutting up bricks anon.

>>5040344
>Killer whales are whales you dribbling retard
They're dolphins buddy.

>>5040345
>Nope...
Ah yes very convincing
>They're all related to breathing in silica dust from cutting up bricks anon
Cool that’s not what the discussion was about in the first place. Try remember something for more than 10 seconds
>>5040346
Dolphins are toothed whales you dumb fucking ape

>>5040347
>Ah yes very convincing
You can't read anon.
>>5040347
>Cool that’s not what the discussion was about in the first place.
wrong anon. You said microplastics were bad. I said silica dust was just as bad. You said Endocrine-disrupting chemicals are associated with microplastics. I showed that they're also associated with silica dust. I also showed that silica dust does cause cancer.
>Dolphins are toothed whales you dumb fucking ape
"Orcinis Orca. They’re commonly known as the Killer whale. But the Orca isn’t actually a whale: it’s in the dolphin family."
https://oceantoday.noaa.gov/killerwhaleanatomy/

>>5040351
>wrong anon. You said microplastics were bad. I said silica dust was just as bad. You said Endocrine-disrupting chemicals are associated with microplastics.
Holy fucking retard. You’ve gone from saying “microplastics aren’t an issue, they’re just like silica dust so nothing to worry about” to listing off all the ways silica dust is a major health hazard and causes all kinds of issues from black lung to cancer. Real intellectual heavyweight over here. If you’re going to argue that something isn’t a health hazard then maybe don’t compare it to something that is a well studied carcinogen and major health rise
>I showed that they're also associated with silica dust
You didn’t though
>”Orcinus Orca. They’re commonly known as the Killer whale. But the Orca isn’t actually a whale: it’s in the dolphin family."
Did you spend that entire time looking for a source that says orcas aren’t whales? I’ll spell it out for you. Orcas are dolphins, dolphins are Odontocetes AKA toothed whales, toothed whales are whales, you are retarded
“A dolphin is a common name used for some of the aquatic mammals in the cetacean clade Odontoceti, the toothed whales”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin

>>5040342
>>5040346
>>5040351
Dolphins are whales. All cetaceans are whales

>>5040357
>Holy fucking retard. You’ve gone from saying “microplastics aren’t an issue
They aren't an issue because they are just as bad as the all-pervasive silica dust.
Everyone breathes in some dust during their lives and always have.
The key is in keeping the amount of exposure within reasonable limits. Same with microplastics.
>You didn’t though
I did though.

>Odontocetes

"Dolphins belong to the families Delphinidae (the oceanic dolphins), along with the river dolphin families Platanistidae (the Indian river dolphins), Iniidae (the New World river dolphins), Pontoporiidae "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin

"As an informal and colloquial grouping, they correspond to large members of the infraorder Cetacea, i.e. all cetaceans apart from dolphins and porpoises."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whale

"The two parvorders of whales, baleen whales (Mysticeti) and toothed whales (Odontoceti), are thought to have had their last common ancestor around 34 million years ago. Mysticetes include four extant (living) families: Balaenopteridae (the rorquals), Balaenidae (right whales), Cetotheriidae (the pygmy right whale), and Eschrichtiidae (the grey whale). Odontocetes include the Monodontidae (belugas and narwhals), Physeteridae (the sperm whale), Kogiidae (the dwarf and pygmy sperm whale), and Ziphiidae (the beaked whales)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whale

...

You seem to be incapable of reading anon.
By your logic I'm a plant because I'm a Eukaryote.

>>5040363
>They aren't an issue because they are just as bad as the all-pervasive silica dust
>They aren’t an issue because they are just as bad as this other thing that is an issue
All you’ve done is demonstrate that silica is also an issue, not that microplastics aren’t an issue. Never mind that they’re issues in entirely different ways
>I did though
You didn’t. You can’t even describe how you did because you didn’t read the paper
>"Dolphins belong to the families Delphinidae (the oceanic dolphins), along with the river dolphin families Platanistidae (the Indian river dolphins), Iniidae (the New World river dolphins), Pontoporiidae "
And all of those families are within the toothed whales. Did you not read the part where it states they’re whales?
>"As an informal and colloquial grouping, they correspond to large members of the infraorder Cetacea, i.e. all cetaceans apart from dolphins and porpoises."
You just tried to use a taxonomic basis as reasoning for why orcas aren’t whales, now you’re trying to use a colloquial definition. Which is it?
>”The two parvorders of whales, baleen whales (Mysticeti) and toothed whales (Odontoceti), are thought to have had their last common ancestor around 34 million years ago. Mysticetes include four extant (living) families: Balaenopteridae (the rorquals), Balaenidae (right whales), Cetotheriidae (the pygmy right whale), and Eschrichtiidae (the grey whale). Odontocetes include the Monodontidae (belugas and narwhals), Physeteridae (the sperm whale), Kogiidae (the dwarf and pygmy sperm whale), and Ziphiidae (the beaked whales)"
You just cut this off right before it says “as well as the six families of dolphins and porpoises”. You know you are incorrect and just don’t want to admit it. There is no taxonomic grouping that includes humpback whales and sperm whales but excludes dolphins

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>>5040363
Umm dolphinsisters?

>>5040366
>All you’ve done is demonstrate that silica is also an issue
Silica dust is pervasive, inert and breathed in by everybody no matter how perfect your life is. Also provably responsible for millions of deaths.
There is no provable link between microplastics and any deaths.
So you're worrying way too much about nothing essentually.
>You didn’t.
I did.
>>5040366
>And all of those families are within the toothed whales.
Toothed whale doesn't mean Delphinidae are Physeteridae
Eukaryote doesn't mean plants are animals.
You're not very smart anon.
One day you will figure it out.
>>5040368
>>5040360
Umm, autistic samefaggging.

>>5040366
>You just cut this off right before it says “as well as the six families of dolphins and porpoises”.
What does it actually say?
Oh...
"as well as the six families of dolphins and porpoises which are not considered whales in the informal sense."

>>5040372
> There is no provable link between microplastics and any deaths
Cool. That has nothing to do with what I said about endocrine disruption. Also there is evidence to suggest they can have an impact on heart health and increase the risk of a life threatening heart attack, so I wouldn’t say that so confidently
>Toothed whale doesn't mean Delphinidae are Physeteridae
>Eukaryote doesn't mean plants are animals
Delphinidae and Physeteridae are both within Odontocetes. Plantae is not within Animalia. Either you are stupid to think these are comparable or intentionally dishonest
>>5040376
>informal sense
Is it informal or taxonomic retard? If it’s informal then killer whales are informally referred to as whales, they’re not called killer dolphins. If it’s taxonomic then dolphins are toothed whales. Any way you try spin it an orca is a whale

>>5040378
>Cool. That has nothing to do with what I said
It invalidates everything you've ever said.
>Delphinidae and Physeteridae are both within Odontocetes
Aha, so Delphinidae aren't Physeritidae.
>Plantae is not within Animalia
Plantae and Animalia are both within Eukarya so Plantae aren't Animalia...
>Is it informal or taxonomic retard
Taxonomically dolphin isn't a synonym of whale.
Informally dolphin isn't a synonym of whale.
They actually mean different things anon.

>>5040380
>It invalidates everything you've ever said
Hmm yes very convincing
>Aha, so Delphinidae aren't Physeritidae
Wow you really are retarded. Nobody said that. I said there’s no grouping that includes humpbacks and sperm whales while excluding dolphins. That has literally no bearing on what I said
>Plantae and Animalia are both within Eukarya so Plantae aren't Animalia...
Plantae aren’t Animalia, but Plantae and Animalia are both within Eukarya. The same way Physeteridae aren’t Delphinidae, but both Physeteridae and Delphinidae are Odontocetes. I understand this is hard for a helmet wearing troglodyte like yourself but please try real hard
>Taxonomically dolphin isn't a synonym of whale
Taxonomically a dolphin is a type of whale
>They actually mean different things anon
It is apparent that you don’t actually care about what is correct and just refuse to acknowledge when you’re wrong. But please by all means keep demonstrating how bad at this you are

>>5040382
>Hmm yes very convincing
Watch out guys! we're all going to die from the microplastics!!!
>Wow you really are retarded. Nobody said that
You're literally saying that.
You're saying Dolphins are whales because taxonomically dolphins are a subset of the toothed whales.
Some toothed whales are wales, others are dolphins.
>Plantae aren’t Animalia
Yep, and Delphinidae aren't Physeritidae.
>Taxonomically a dolphin is a type of whale
No, it's a type of toothed whale.
Other toothed whales are wales.
>It is apparent that you don’t actually care
I do. You're just too stupid unfortunately.

>>5040384
>You're saying Dolphins are whales because taxonomically dolphins are a subset of the toothed whales
Which is true. That’s an entirely different statement to Delphinidae and Physeteridae being the same thing
>Yep, and Delphinidae aren't Physeritidae
And both of those are Odontocetes
>No, it's a type of toothed whale
>Other toothed whales are wales
Is this your first time dealing with taxonomy? You don’t seem to grasp it very well
>You're just too stupid unfortunately
Projection

Can we all just admit 'climate change' is a cult by this point?

>>5040386
>Which is true. That’s an entirely different statement to Delphinidae and Physeteridae being the same thing
It's actually the exact same statement...
>And both of those are Odontocetes
Which doesn't make Delphinids and Physeritids the same.
>Is this your first time dealing with taxonomy? You don’t seem to grasp it very well
The words dolphin, whale and toothed whale mean different things anon. You're too stupid to understand that.
>Projection
Nope. You are too stupid to understand this.
>>5040387
It is a cult, agreed.

>>5040388
>It's actually the exact same statement...
Explain what grouping includes humpback whales and sperm whales but excludes dolphins
>Which doesn't make Delphinids and Physeritids the same
It makes them both Odontocetes, the same way plants and animals are both Eukaryotes
>The words dolphin, whale and toothed whale mean different things anon. You're too stupid to understand that
Dolphins are one group of toothed whales, toothed whales are one group of whales. You are too stupid to understand that
Also
>>5040380
>>5040384
>>5040388
>Physeritidae
If you’re gonna pretend to know what you’re talking about you can at least spell it right. You’re not doing a very good job at this

>>5040391
>Explain what grouping includes humpback whales and sperm whales but excludes dolphins
whales...
>It makes them both Odontocetes
which means Delphinids aren't Physeritids.
>Dolphins are one group of toothed whales
Very good little boy. And that means the non-dolphin toothed whales are just whales.
>If you’re gonna pretend to know what you’re talking
?
Bovidae - Family name
Bovid - A single member of the the Bovidae family
Bovids - More than one member of the Bovidae family.

This is standard usage anon...

>>5040398
>whales...
And that taxonomic group is…?
>which means Delphinids aren't Physeritids
Now you’re just embarrassing yourself
>And that means the non-dolphin toothed whales are just whales
And dolphin toothed whales are also whales, keep up tourist
>This is standard usage anon...
I’m not talking about the suffixes retard. You really are illiterate
>Physeteridae not Physeritidae
>Physeterid not Physeritid
>Physeterids not Physeritids

>>5040400
>And that taxonomic group is
Whales are everything outside of Delphinoidea, Platanistidae, Iniidae and Pontoporiidae but still within Cetacea.
>Now you’re just embarrassing yourself
Delphinids aren't Physeritids autismos.
>I’m not talking about the suffixes retard.
Oh right, you're talking about a spelling error that I'm going to forever repeat because it triggers your autism Mr Physeritid.

>>5040400
>And dolphin toothed whales are also whales
No they aren't. They're dolphins.
You're making the words whale and toothed whale meaningless by treating them like synonyms.

>>5040403
>Whales are everything outside of Delphinoidea, Platanistidae, Iniidae and Pontoporiidae but still within Cetacea
That’s not how taxonomy works. There is no picking and choosing. Platanistidae are closer to beaked whales then they are to oceanic dolphins, where are you drawing the line? There is no taxonomic group that includes humpbacks and sperm whales but excludes dolphins
>Delphinida aren't Physeritids autismos
Nobody said they are, but you’re too stupid to understand that
>you're talking about a spelling error that I'm going to forever repeat because it triggers your autism Mr Physeritid
This is what I meant when I said you don’t care about what’s correct and just want to refuse to admit you could be wrong about anything
>>5040403
>You're making the words whale and toothed whale meaningless by treating them like synonyms
I’m not treating them as synonyms. I am treating dolphins as a subset of toothed whale. Which they are. That’s like saying that wolves are canids is treating wolf and canid as synonyms

>>5040408
>That’s not how taxonomy works.
"Dolphin" and "Whale" aren't taxonomic classifications...
Which is something you haven't realized yet.
If you want to force dolphins into a
monophyletic group The closest fit is delphinida which contains delphinidae and Inioidea.
>Nobody said they are
You're literally saying they are by calling dolphins whales. When you should be calling dolphins toothed wales or Odontoceti.
>This is what I meant when I said
Mr Physeritid Mr Physeritid
>I’m not treating them as synonyms
You're literally using them as synonyms.

>>5040416
>”Dolphin" and "Whale" aren't taxonomic classifications...
But you literally just said “Whales are everything outside of Delphinoidea, Platanistidae, Iniidae and Pontoporiidae but still within Cetacea” when I asked what taxonomic group contains humpbacks and sperm whales but excludes dolphins. You’ve just realised that there is no taxonomic basis for your argument
>You're literally saying they are by calling dolphins whales. When you should be calling dolphins toothed wales or Odontoceti
I am saying dolphins are toothed whales. I am also saying that toothed whales are whales. Not sure what’s so hard to understand about that
>You're literally using them as synonyms
You’re literally retarded if you think you’re convincing anyone by saying that. It’s ok to admit when you’re wrong man, your dad isn’t gonna enter your room and beat your ass for it

>more anti-dog propaganda
>now with the climate hoax angle
gee

>>5040417
No point in trying to convince someone who is so set on being wrong

>>5039670
Ok white woman

>>5040711
>>5040417
Hey, samefag anon.
"whale" and "dolphin" aren't taxonomic terms.
You can be an autistic psychopathic robot some other day.
Also whale, dolphin and toothed whale aren't synonyms.

>>5040858
Calm down Prajeet. Put your pants back on please.

I genuinely think oil companies are paying people to write these articles to make climate change look bad

>>5042400
> Capitalists paid Mao huge amounts of money to ban pet dogs as "bourgeois extravagance" and "western filth" during the Cultural Revolution 1966-1976.

> A thousand years ago atheists paid the Jewish, Christian & Muslim communities gigantic amounts of money to write as many negative verses about dogs as possible.

>>5042411
tyrants hate dogs because they compete with them for loyalty and dog ownership discourages jihadist/cannonfodder behavior

at all levels owning a dog is self acknowledging your individual worth and your independence from others.

secret police and other such surprise shitheads (thugs, basically) can not function in a community with dogs either.

the dog is the natural opposite of evil which is why the evil ban or subvert (see: the pitbull lobby and its origins) them.

>>5042421
100%

I will now adopt 20 dogs from my local rescue just so the Netherlands sink faster into oblivion. I will miss your stroopwafel, but only the strongests will pay the highest price.

>>5042389
>"whale" and "dolphin" aren't taxonomic terms
Then why are you trying to justify orcas not being whales with taxonomy? You’re retarded

>>5038576 (OP)
I just turned the lights on in my room. This is causing a hecking climate change!

>>5044211
If you're trying to drown the Dutch you're in for a mighty surprise, if anything they'll just find a way to float their entire country just to give Poseidon the biggest middle finger possible

Now if you're trying to drown Florida, that is a realistic and noble goal

>>5038678
Ah yes, wolves don't exist.

>>5044446
Fuck, you're probably right. Those guys know how to builds dams.

>>5038576 (OP)
So what you're saying is instead of two dogs and two buns I could have one dog and 102 buns....
BRB doing some renovations.

>>5038582
The US has 340 million people and China has 1.4 billion. We emit more per person than China does. By a lot.

>>5044657
china allowed covid 19 to spread, I'mnot going to trust their published emission numbers

>>5044710
America nuked a country twice, I'm not going to trust their emissions data

>>5044657
The US has 340 million people. China has 1.4 billion bugs.
>>5045211
>>5044710
Neither of you two made statements that had any relevancy to your arguments. However China has a very long history of falsifying and denying pretty much all data that is even remotely embarrassing. This is the country that buried its first high speed rail with dirt on the side of the tracks where it crashed, bodies and all, and declared it a massive success to the world. This is also the country that does little to no reporting of any kind for rural populations. It is also the country that flagrantly defies international regulations for industrial waste, fishing, mining, etc.
Every country lies about something. China just lies about EVERYTHING.

It is unironically true that the vast majority of my problems would be solved if I woke up tomorrow as the last person on Earth.

Additionally, this level of simping for dogs is some spiritual white girl shit. They're dumb animals, they can't pick out untrustworthy people and they hate uniforms for no reason. Don't be fucking stupid.

>>5044657
China keeps 70% of its people in enforced poverty. Otherwise their pollution is completely unrestrained.

>>5045248
Dogs are unironically smarter than some inner city american middle schoolers

Additionally, if animal shelter and return rates are any indication, owning a pet mostly fucking sucks. The people who tolerate it the best are usually the ones who are least qualified to be caring for another life.

And finally, your pet doesn't even like you. It's just really food motivated because it's life isn't that complicated.

>>5038576 (OP)
But why do you give a voice to the stupid and foolish? You're like the "activists" who think they're fighting against an ideology by constantly posting their talking points and their articles.

>>5038781
>gay earth you all deserve it
But not you, right?

>>5045247
You know those hypotheticals, about you hypothetically being kicked out of 109 bars, whether the bars or you are the problem? That's referring to something specific of course; but if everyone in the world is the problem, maybe it's just a "you problem", retard.

>>5045248
Do you post on /r9k/ and/or /adv/, mailman?