Thread 5043205

Are Komodo dragons venomous?

>>5043205 (OP)
venomous up your ass

>>5043205 (OP)
why would a dragon need venom? they can breathe fire

>>5043205 (OP)
I'd imagine so, that's why knights wear armor to fight them.

>>5043205 (OP)
It's unlikely considering other monitors. Even if they were it's probably more in-line with a predigestion enzyme or anti-coagulant rather than the typical neuro or cytotoxins we normally consider venom.

>>5043264
snakes use hemotoxins too and we call them venomous, thats probably common one person consider aside from necrotic venom

>>5043307
You're talking about the boomslang and it's hemorrhagic venom? That can actually kill something as far as I can tell from the extremely limited information it doesn't do that. It would be like saying leeches are venomous because they have anti-coagulant saliva I don't think it degrades vascular membranes more than like normal spit.

>>5043205 (OP)
Yes. It doesn’t actually play a major role in hunting though, that is a myth. When Komodo dragons hunt they do so with the full intention of killing/immobilising prey as quickly as possible. The deadly bacteria thing is also a myth
>>5043264
All monitors are venomous. Komodos are actually one of the less venomous monitors. Black, green and spotted tree monitors are apparently comparable to a lot of small venomous snakes in toxicity, You are right about it being an anti-coagulant though.
>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/333017789_Varanid_Lizard_Venoms_Disrupt_the_Clotting_Ability_of_Human_Fibrinogen_through_Destructive_Cleavage
>picrel
The thinner the red line in relation to the blue line, the more potent the venom

>>5043309
are you retarded? all vipers, you know a very common species of venomous snakes, have hemotoxins

>>5043394
Hemorrhagic venom works by using zinc-dependant metalloproteinases to weaken capillaries which then rupture under your own blood pressure.
Hemotoxic can either be that or the combination of that and anti-coagulants and/or vesodilators, or the total opposite where it just makes clots everywhere turning your blood into cottage cheese.

I was asking for clarification of what snake has the most similar venom.

>>5043555
and im saying that your idea of you consider to be typical is retarded. now if you want to talk about what is similar, well its vipers in general, elapids use paralytics, and we dont actually know where snakes and monitors are on the evolutionary tree just that theyre kinda related because mosasaurs are more related to them than anything else.

>>5043205 (OP)
It's pretty much been proven, and there's a genuine conspiracy to keep the research down for whatever reason.

https://youtu.be/1OSGNzrNXr8?si=-SUXTmMfUzqifpug

>>5043205 (OP)
>>5043633
I thought the latest research proved that they aren't?
The whole "bacteria mouth" thing was a load of hogwash, that their teeth and mouth were as clean as any other lizard.

Last I heard the shredding action of their bite, combined with the humid condition of the island, is what causes the misconception

>>5043205 (OP)
fraid not

WHO DO I BELIEVE

>>5043788
This >>5043342

>>5043766
The bacteria idea is a seperate and much older theory. They have true venom glands like all monitors