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Anonymous No.5046483 [Report] >>5047783 >>5047840 >>5047915 >>5048475 >>5060465
/invert/ - Invertebrate General
"don't talk to me or my daughter ever again" edition

Found a juvenile widow in my charcoal chimney. She's still got the gold stripe down her back. I'll have to get her set up with a bigger enclosure soon but I think she's okay in the sling box for now. Also think the middle widow is working on some eggs, it's been a week or so since she ate and she's still looking thicc.
Anonymous No.5047783 [Report]
>>5046483 (OP)
Bump
Anonymous No.5047840 [Report]
>>5046483 (OP)
Anonymous No.5047913 [Report] >>5047930
How much inbreeding can invert colonies handle?
Anonymous No.5047915 [Report]
>>5046483 (OP)
I saw a really gnarly one on my rain gutter
You would probably love it
Those hellbeasts repulse me personally
Anonymous No.5047930 [Report]
>>5047913
Yes
Anonymous No.5048005 [Report]
Tick sucking off tick?
Anonymous No.5048111 [Report] >>5048172 >>5048224 >>5048239 >>5063353
what's this dude?
Anonymous No.5048172 [Report]
>>5048111
Pokey
Anonymous No.5048224 [Report]
>>5048111
Hairy
Anonymous No.5048239 [Report]
>>5048111
Friend
Anonymous No.5048475 [Report]
>>5046483 (OP)
Cages lookin good!
Anonymous No.5048580 [Report]
Hey you faggots need to pay rent now
Anonymous No.5049057 [Report] >>5049062
I just saw my first stinker of the season. Fall is officially here.
Anonymous No.5049062 [Report]
>>5049057
Anonymous No.5049068 [Report]
Are there any beetles that don't fly like a bucket?
Anonymous No.5050146 [Report]
Bump
Anonymous No.5050602 [Report]
Anonymous No.5050660 [Report] >>5050665 >>5051517 >>5052606 >>5052609
Here's my cute girl.
Anonymous No.5050665 [Report] >>5050671
>>5050660
adorable
Anonymous No.5050671 [Report] >>5051126 >>5051517
>>5050665
Thanks :]
Anonymous No.5051126 [Report] >>5052734
>try so save little green flying bug that found its way inside
>flies IMMEDIATELY into the web + mouth of a spider
>>5050671
Holy shit she's cute.
Anonymous No.5051517 [Report] >>5051985 >>5052021
>>5050660
>>5050671
I want to get a jumping spider, but I feel like I'd do a shit job of decorating his enclosure.
Anonymous No.5051908 [Report]
The duckies are having carrot :D
Anonymous No.5051985 [Report]
>>5051517
This is the first jumping spider I've ever had. I found some twigs and bark outside my apartment, baked them on low heat to sanitize them. And also bought some things off Amazon. She mostly just patrols the middle/top areas. She made her new nest cocoon in the top front right. It's a 11.7x6x6 water tight enclosure.
Anonymous No.5052021 [Report] >>5067176
>>5051517
>I want to get a jumping spider
I'd advise against that.
Anonymous No.5052047 [Report] >>5061973
can anyone identify this spoder?
Anonymous No.5052049 [Report] >>5061973
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Anonymous No.5052099 [Report] >>5052102
i like bees
Anonymous No.5052102 [Report]
>>5052099
they're the bees knees
Anonymous No.5052155 [Report] >>5052156 >>5052893
Been seeing some juves on my grill patio the past two weeks. Think I just found mama bear
Anonymous No.5052156 [Report] >>5052158
>>5052155
And one of her babies hanging out nearby
Anonymous No.5052158 [Report]
>>5052156
And a bonus woodlouse juve hanging around nearby in an isopod graveyard
Anonymous No.5052606 [Report] >>5052645
>>5050660
What do you feed her? How much does she eat?
Anonymous No.5052609 [Report] >>5052645
>>5050660
Love her. How do you let her out without fear of her jumping somewhere?
Anonymous No.5052645 [Report] >>5057153
>>5052606
I've been giving her flightless fruit flies mostly. Like 6 or so every other day. But I let her try out a meal worm for the first time and she liked it. Left a neat empty worm tube. I'm waiting several days for her to shrink back to normal size before feeding her again.
>>5052609
Thanks, her name is Elise and she has a heart on her abdomen. Still a juvenile.
I have the little deli cup the breeder kept her in. So I use that to transport her to the bathroom. I have cats so I close the door when I let her hang out with me there. She enjoys walking on the counter or my hand. I'm glad she doesn't actually jump unless she is already close enough to hop to another surface.
Anonymous No.5052734 [Report]
>>5051126
To think those things are ferocious hunters (Order Neuropterae)
Anonymous No.5052893 [Report]
>>5052155
look at how shiny that ass is
Anonymous No.5053513 [Report]
Dinner time
Anonymous No.5053534 [Report]
What the fuck is wrong with this worm?
Anonymous No.5053686 [Report] >>5053705
Does anyone happen to know the ID for this moth? Found in Kibale National Park, Uganda.
Anonymous No.5053705 [Report] >>5053743
>>5053686
Delorhachis meyi. cool moth
Anonymous No.5053743 [Report]
>>5053705
Thank you anon!
Anonymous No.5055989 [Report]
How big is your enclosure for hissing cockroaches? I was planning on getting a couple, just to keep not to raise a colony, but the guides I read range from 5 gal too 20 gal, I assume 20 gal is only if you plan to breed a colony right?
Anonymous No.5057153 [Report] >>5057559
>>5052645
Jfc that is the cutest spider I have ever seen. She’s one tiny top hat away from cartoon status.
Anonymous No.5057192 [Report]
8-bit caterpillar
Anonymous No.5057559 [Report]
>>5057153
I'm excited to see what she looks like after she molts. She started on Oct 5th and has been resting ever since.
Anonymous No.5057777 [Report] >>5059157 >>5059357
My 10+ year old G pulchra molted recently, she's getting pretty big.
Anonymous No.5059157 [Report]
>>5057777
Big check. That's an old spider.
Anonymous No.5059357 [Report] >>5059381
>>5057777
TEN YEARS?!
How long can spiders live?
Anonymous No.5059381 [Report]
>>5059357
Female tarantulas can live up to 20-30 years, specifically the slow growing species.
Anonymous No.5060421 [Report]
This moth was hanging out in my laundry and I think the residual detergent poisoned him.(I hand wash and am lazy with rinsing) His tongue is out and he's barely moving.

Tried offering sugar water and normal water and he doesn't care at all. Also his little hairs are falling off.

Pretty big moth for this area. I bet he was already hungry then the detergent poisoned him.
Anonymous No.5060465 [Report]
>>5046483 (OP)
>she's still looking thicc.
YJK
Anonymous No.5061965 [Report]
Moths
Anonymous No.5061973 [Report] >>5062144
>>5052047
>>5052049
>>5052050

Neoscona crucifera, the spotted orbweaver. In some places they're called spotted orbweavers. I have one of these girls myself right now.
Anonymous No.5062144 [Report]
>>5061973
i meant in some places theyre called barn spiders

maybe its over for me
Anonymous No.5062895 [Report] >>5063237
Elise emerged a few days ago. She hasnt come out much and only pokes her head out of her nest to watch me when I sit down to eat. She is very dark looking.
Anonymous No.5062914 [Report]
Spider laid eggs before dying, how to feed slings ?? flightless fruit flies ??
Anonymous No.5062921 [Report] >>5063354
Question about invert keeping especially for guys that need lots of moisture. How do you avoid mold/ mildew in an enclosure?
Anonymous No.5063237 [Report]
>>5062895
super cute NEET spider. Maybe she would like more twigs to build off of?
Anonymous No.5063353 [Report]
>>5048111
tussock caterpillar
Anonymous No.5063354 [Report]
>>5062921
good ventilation and springtail cleanup crew
Anonymous No.5063961 [Report]
species ID or common name maybe ?? cant figure out what these spiders are and theres no definitive name coming up for them. in the article it said they were called grass spiders but theres a million spiders called grass spiders across the internet. found in ozark missouri
Anonymous No.5064154 [Report] >>5064216
I suspect I have a brown recluse infestation. I ID'ed them via the 3 pairs of eyes, the violin patttern (looks more like a goblet to me because 2/3 are so small) and near-featureless brown body except for the big guy who has the "heart mark" - looks pretty close to pic related. I do want to get rid of them because I've had some really close encounters and they don't seem to stay all that reclusive (at least the ones I've seen), but on impulse I decided to put the ones I find in a jar with the intention to let them go in a forest somewhere. Do they need substrate if they're already pretty happy chilling in an apartment? What do I feed em? I tossed some crickets in there but they don't seem interested.
Anonymous No.5064216 [Report] >>5064401 >>5064570
>>5064154
shouldnt need substrate but a good layer of soil to cover the bottom of the tub would help with hydration. depending on ventilation, you would need to mist it anywhere between 1-3 times a week. ventilation also depends on the size of the enclosure but im assuming you arent using a 20 gallon tank for this thing.

As for the "big guy", its competely possible its a different species in the same genus, the genus being Loxosceles. Its possible you are seeing forest recluses come in from nearby parks.

i would feed them Drosophila melanogaster adults, but if you dont have a farm of those then i would try young wood roaches, maybe only the first couple of instars. German cockroaches also work if you can only collect insects from your apartment.
Anonymous No.5064401 [Report] >>5064418
>>5064216
Thanks bro! Yeah I just have a jar for now as I wasn't planning on keeping them for more than a day until I started feeling the urge to look at them every so often. I'll get them a tub so they can each have their own hiding space. Will get them the drosophila as well. The big guy finally took one of the crickets but they might be too large of prey items for the other 2. I WOULD feed them stuff I find in my apartment but the recluse population seems to be doing a good job of cleaning it out kek. I don't even see other types of spiders in here. Just brown recluse (brown recleese?).
Anonymous No.5064418 [Report] >>5065982
>>5064401
since Drosophila melanogaster are so small compared to brown recluses, you might want to give the spider 3 flies per feeding session. from an empty stomach, it should take 10 to fill an adult brown recluse up, and 6 for most stages of juveniles.

i usually feed my spiders every 3 days since thats how often i feed my ants but really you only need to feed this specific genus once a week and theyll stay in good health.

If you're regularly feeding them, i would give them around 8 per once weekly feeding session.

I dont have much experience with your specific species of brown recluse but the ones here in Missourian households are usually pretty slow and are easily overwhelmed, so its important to not give them too much food at once. for this reason, maintenance is easier with roaches, since they only need one roach at a time.

you can give them adult roaches and they will be perfectly fine, but if you're giving them very young roaches i would do 2, depending on which instar theyre at.
Anonymous No.5064570 [Report] >>5064573
>>5064216
>Drosophila melanogaster
>2nd image result
Anonymous No.5064573 [Report]
>>5064570
>looks up bugs that only eat breed and die
>sees them doing one of the two things they spend their time doing
what were you expecting
Anonymous No.5064682 [Report] >>5064702
lemon katy
Anonymous No.5064685 [Report] >>5064687
big biter
Anonymous No.5064687 [Report] >>5064702
>>5064685
oops
Anonymous No.5064702 [Report]
>>5064682
>>5064687
both are ant food
Anonymous No.5065982 [Report]
>>5064418
I have drosophila coming in soon. Hopefully soon enough to help out the 2 little ones. I'm gonna take care of them till they get a little bigger then let them go. Will post pics of the big Loxosceles once I can put some stuff in the little 7x6x4 enclosure that I bought (hopefully it's appropriately sized - according to slopGPT it should be fine but, I've never kept any kind of invertebrates before) and probably keep it around till it passes
It's been a weird but interesting journey so far!
Anonymous No.5066361 [Report] >>5067182
Bertha was wrapping a present for me when I checked in after work today.
Anonymous No.5067147 [Report] >>5067182 >>5067726
Made a new enclosure for my jumper today. Gotta find a way to get a little water dish in there for her, but need a stronger magnet if I want to hang it off the wall.
Anonymous No.5067176 [Report]
>>5052021
>There are real people that would actually scream and jump and cry after watching that video.
And yet I simply enjoyed seeing the rare underside and the way the spiders legs attached to their body and the way their fangs are stored.
Anonymous No.5067181 [Report]
>dumbass beetle is trying to burrow into concrete crack
>carefully get him out with a knife
>get him in my hand, want to take pic before release
>tries burrowing into my fingers, bites me, I accidentslly drop him into the dirt
I think he probably found a place to burrow. It's getting cold now
Anonymous No.5067182 [Report]
>dumbass beetle is trying to burrow into concrete crack
>carefully get him out with a knife
>get him in my hand, want to take pic before release
>tries burrowing into my fingers, bites me(dumb asshole), I accidentslly drop him into the dirt
I think he probably found a place to burrow. It's getting cold now
>>5066361
>>5067147
Love these updates. Personally I only trust real mechanical connections and do not trust any adhesive connections unless it's for passive sealing.
Anonymous No.5067267 [Report] >>5070737
I have a small patch of wild grass and flowers. It always surprises me how many insects are thriving of it. Also a big ass kale was growing in there and It was ridden with caterpillars. At first I was worried I might harbor pests for the surrounding farmers but I decided to leave them be. One of them crawled up my walls to cocoon or so I assumed. Now it's a breeding pit of parasitoid wasps and I'm glad I'm providing a real service to the farmers.
Anonymous No.5067404 [Report] >>5068267 >>5069969
Is light trapping worth it? Seems like a good way to get ant queens, mantids or rare moth eggs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEVLMyxnmAE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI9In1e2eIE
Anonymous No.5067726 [Report] >>5067784
>>5067147
Got a walnut and a water bottle for her. Kinda crowded in there now but lots of things for her to climb and jump around on.
Anonymous No.5067784 [Report]
>>5067726
She's sunbathing
Anonymous No.5068267 [Report]
>>5067404
>Bartposting
It depends on the season, moon, and location. It's worth it if you're in a place with good biodiversity tho since there's a good chance the moths attracted to the light are mated females
Anonymous No.5068999 [Report] >>5069005 >>5070076
traveler here, has https://desuarchive.org/an/thread/4991326/#4998316 been followed up on?
Anonymous No.5069005 [Report]
>>5068999
Checked. Not that I've seen. He had something to do involving traveling I think.
Anonymous No.5069969 [Report]
>>5067404
we do something in the antkeeping community called "blacklighting" (normal lights are fine as well but blacklights are the industry standard). you take a 24 inch long blacklight and some white towels and connect the light to a battery and stay out for as long as you're getting 10 queens an hour and you can get up to 500 queens in one night, total.

this is mostly for Pheidole in my area, but some Camponotus are attracted to blacklights as well. Some genera ONLY mate when UV rays are present, like Formica. Formica subsericea, which a lot of Americans have, can be captive bred if you place alates from two different colonies under a blacklight in a closed container.


This is especially profitable when you're working with species like the Formica pallidefulva complex, which are a bright orange, and can sell for as much as 45 USD per individual founding colony.

People are working on captive breeding Camponotus but you need an atmospheric pressure chamber for that and obviously most people dont have that . . .
Anonymous No.5070060 [Report] >>5070061
Say hi to Elise. She's a qt goth girl now. No longer a pumpkin.
Anonymous No.5070061 [Report]
>>5070060
And she still has her heart.
Anonymous No.5070076 [Report]
>>5068999
He posted in a hedgehog thread a while ago. He’s still working on collecting enough ticks for another attempt.
Anonymous No.5070737 [Report]
>>5067267
gotta love hymenopterans