Thread 938497328

Is life objectively bad, or is it our minds that ruin the experience by superimposing misery with bad brain chemicals?

I ask this out of a curiosity after looking at religions and spiritual guides saying things like "this life is just a test, the best is yet to come", as if we have to make a transition from this realm to another. But what if there isn't anything else but this? Shouldn't we try to be happy and have good lives now?

i would hurt you really bad in real life if i knew who you were that posted this thread, it would be really fun to me

>>938497328 (OP)
Energetic state of mind, from chemical and electrical sources, makes for a life which is neither good nor bad, to become perceived as what we assume is the truth. The state in which we receive the input of the world into our perceptual awareness is fundamentally to blame for all the shades of interpretation we place on the world.

This is why a drug user can live a terrible life and still be happy.

>>938497328 (OP)
If one can be happy when all things come crashing down around them, then one has mastered the mind; if that person can be sad when they will it, to understand the emotions of others better.

If one is sad in the exact same situation that others are happy in, one is required to seek the cause within oneself, for the world is clearly not the issue.

>>938497414
>i would hurt you really bad in real life if i knew who you were that posted this threa

Why, anon? I'm actually a bit afraid of you right now.

>>938498585
Thanks!

>>938498770
>If one is sad in the exact same situation that others are happy in, one is required to seek the cause within oneself, for the world is clearly not the issue.

That's interesting, but you didn't answer my question. Is the world miserable or not?

>>938497328 (OP)
>Is life objectively bad,
to live is to suffer

>>938499018
>That's interesting, but you didn't answer my question. Is the world miserable or not?

It answered it just fine.
The world is not a perceptual state at all.
We live in an illusion of what the world is to us; the world is not any of these things.

>>938499411
Interesting. Thanks for the reply.

>>938497328 (OP)
A man can live in relative hell and still be at peace if he only takes his torment and directs it towards an objective with the emotional amplification that arrives under stress. Then the world can be as miserable as it wants and no failure is because of the individual.

Adapt or perish.

When in a warzone, become war, then misery is your playground.

>>938497328 (OP)
Mr Anderson, you are still under the impression that the matrix is what you see in front of your eyes.

If you could only close your eyes and realize that the matrix is the same to you, despite this, you would become wiser and recognize that the matrix is a cold, hard fact, which you interpret in meaning and emotion to twist the purity of a structure that holds no regard for your petty constructs of thought.

See the code, recognize that the shape you find surrounds you is only the shape you place on a mirage, which exists because of the rules that govern the very fabric of your awareness. These rules are flawed and seek to tell you that your interpretation is accurate, when a billion people interpret the same data a million different ways. Who is right? ..The architect, the system coder, not the witness to the display.

>>938497328 (OP)
As a Schizophrenic for 20 years, who also had suicidal depression and anxiety for 10 years, I am aware of how the brain interprets every single piece of data it reads from the world and the people in ways that correspond to its overall neurological design.

I can be in a room of people and be paranoid that they are all talking about me, and everything they say can link to what I am thinking when psychotic. That same room of people having similar conversations can mean nothing at all when I am feeling normal. It is just background noise.

More than chemicals, it is neurological pathway formation and pattern repetition that decides if life is miserable or happy.

So to answer your question, yes, chemicals can alter the world as an experience, but mostly it is neuronal connections firing in sequences that match the usual baseline clarity of one's lifetime as a witness to the world, which makes for a 'Good' world.

A bad world is most commonly down to new connections which are not yet integrated, and the living of those scenarios until the brain adapts and emotion levels balance out makes those 'bad world' situations become normal, and one can find a new kind of peace.

>>938500778
you typed a lot and i only read the first sentence lol. does everyone in your personal life get annoyed with you like i did?

>>938500778
>A bad world is most commonly down to new connections which are not yet integrated, and the living of those scenarios until the brain adapts and emotion levels balance out makes those 'bad world' situations become normal, and one can find a new kind of peace.

This is really interesting. Thanks for the reply, anon.

>>938500289
My eyes can't gaze at the source I'm afraid. I'm not the chosen one.

>>938500838
No, the people in my life are in my life because I chose them to be. People who get annoyed with me are not in my circle. I deliberately make sure to piss everyone off a bit immediately on meeting them if I am considering new friends, this ensures I have tolerable people in my life who do not bite when they should bark. This methodology has made my life incredibly peaceful. I do not make friends with anyone who is so imbalanced that they get annoyed over words intended to make a point, not generate an emotion. If I did not do this my whole life I would have more than one argument with the people I know every few years and this is unacceptable.

Aside from that, this is 4chan, and free speech is a given, so I do not even think about not offending or annoying people. If you cannot keep yourself from crying, find a safe cookery forum.

>>938497328 (OP)
>Shouldn't we try to be happy and have good lives now?
Yes but there's millions of people around the world who think their religion is more important than your happiness so you can't do those things.
But you're more than welcome to believe in what they believe and vote for the leaders they approve of.

>>938497328 (OP)
>Shouldn't we try to be happy and have good lives now?
The cold, hard truth is that most people are not ready to acknowledge that the brain and, consequently, the mind, are the true source of a good life and a good world.

There is no explanation in a lengthy and impactful way that one can adapt their brain to see the world in a better light. People only start to recognize they should be doing this when their world falls apart, and by that time, they have neurological stagnation by way of brain patterns that have been built to accept the state of the world as the single way it has been viewed through the majority of times, energetic state. This is why drugs are required to make a person come out of depression.

>>938497328 (OP)
Get your fucking pants down around your knees and I'll show you what "Frog Pounding" is. After I'm done, we can go "clubbing."

>>938504222
Oh LOOK! Trips of hold still while I burn you with this cigarette as I blast your ass AGAIN.

>>938501840
Protecting visible human exploitation is called Stockholm Syndrome. Shortly after I was born, I was legally stolen and put into a 12 year long indoctrination and obedience program and left with a worthless degree I can wipe my ass with. 12 years stolen from me. I was good enough to slave away for the corporations and the 5% of the population who own absolutely everything though and receiving a small, vanishing trickle illusion of perceived wealth.

Extreme money addiction is an end-times religion of delirious self deceit, crafting up the most fanatic of believers. Discrimination by Default™ is when you have a very small percentage who live like kings and own almost everything, while the masses slave away to make it all possible and own little to nothing.

Capitalism is one large criminal organization, a complete and total religion based upon the forceful and fear-mongering regulation of theft.

>>938505242
I do not hold your sentiment in high regard because the concept of money beyond what is required to have a peaceful life is not important to me.

If it were not important to you, you would see that the rich few can have stress and turmoil, which counters their peace, and as such, they require more money to become happy again, it is not what they buy that frees them; it is that the effort they put in appears to be giving reward at all.

I simply do not care; it would be nice if all billionaires up and fed and watered the world, but the feelings of worth they hold dear do not come from making things better for circles outside their own structured assertions of who is relevant.

There are many ways of looking at this system and seeing that it is built on and advanced by inferior minds, not just your way. Because that is true, we are all single-focused vessels containing part of the mission plan towards a better world. Arguing with those who appear to have more than you is like hitting your left hand because it cannot write like your right hand.

This is a species, and it advances slowly; it will advance very fast in some ways soon, but very slowly from then on in many ways.

Relax, though, things are going to get better for the generations to come. It just will not be obvious without vast research into future eventualities that remain out of the sight of just about everyone.

>>938505801
That sounds like the religion talking. The world is not getting better - people are just as barbaric and evil as they have always been.

I see some self-elevation in your posts. I think that is one of the main attributes of the religion I mentioned; instead of focusing on others the religion has an individual focus upon themself to craft them into a false god of their own creation.

I don't argue with people who appear to have more and don't feel the need to. I use logic and can see where rationalism and a lack of logic fails most people. Money addiction is a lot like basic math - after 45 years of it you don't even have to think about it anymore to achieve any results.

The only issue with genuine money addiction is that it cannot ever be quenched. There is no point where the quest is complete. Add to that a severe form of blindness, only seeing the next acquisition and it being what matters most in life.

Money addiction, the religion of self. A total thought conversion program.

>>938508506
If the world is not getting better, go and marry a child or duck a witch or something to blend in.

Shortsighted.

>>938508506
>the law disagrees.
>technology disagrees.
>monarchies disagree.
>education levels disagree.
>civil unrest disagrees.
>healthcare disagrees.
>quality of life disagrees.
>general calm in everyday life disagrees.

I can go on.

>>938508506
That sounds like the whine of a peon about the king having a horse and a set of shoes without shit on them.

>>938497328 (OP)
life is objectively bad for 99% of the population 99% of the time. only very few that will ever be born will have great lives. these are peeps that are born wealthy, extremely beautiful, have crazy, genius talent or athleticism.

>>938497328 (OP)
Society today is bad. Terrible in fact. I’d rather live in the 1800s spending my days chopping down trees adjacent to my log cabin.

>>938510647
Sounds like a wonderful 30 years until you contract a disease and croak.
>>938510618
Yeah, their endless Netflix, weekends to look forward to going anywhere within 300 miles, PC games to play in the thousands, PS5 in the price range of a month's benefits. Sex apps to do as they please. Booze and drugs just a walk away. The 99% are really crying in their hovels about the state of the blight on their crops 99% of the time.

You need to fucking wise up, you are not in the Middle Ages, and even then, they were happy a hell of a lot of the time. What's wrong with you? Got a mental disability or something?

>>938497328 (OP)
Religions are scams used by people who exploit you while promising things will be better later if you submit to them fucking you over now

>>938510503
>general calm in everyday life
Spoken like an entitled burger

>>938510908
>Sounds like a wonderful 30 years until you contract a disease and croak.
We don’t have a reason to live beyond 30 years.

>>938510982
religion is hate religion is fear religion is war. you sound like a teenager who is really gay and annoying

>>938511016
>Spoken like an entitled burger
Just a person looking at how there are no arguments on the council estate except for every few years.
so
>spoken like someone pulling statistics out of their ass and assuming all sorts of weird shit about everyone who disagrees.

>>938511021
>We don’t have a reason to live beyond 30 years.
I see, so you are gonna hit 30 and say .. well screw this, where's my razor blade?

Speak for yourself, you silly ass.

>>938510982
>>938511044
People are idiots often.
Things like religion therefore have idiots in them often.

This is not the fault of the idea.

Label something you know about, like trumps russian penis fetish. I do not care about that.

>>938511280
logan's run, dumbfuck. it can happen.

>>938511280
>I see, so you are gonna hit 30 and say .. well screw this, where's my razor blade?
No, actually.

>>938511399
>No, actually.
So you do have a reason?

Make up your mind