Thread 938694498

I didn't leave the Left, the Left left me.

>>938694498 (OP)
and there's no sign of them coming back any time soon

>>938694498 (OP)
And then what happened?

>>938694498 (OP)
I dindu the right & the right became left, so the left became right, again when I left leaving me right.

we just have a messaging problem. our policies are actually cute and valid. AOC is going to win

>>938694755
There was never a party switch. Donkeys were always the party of slavery, racism, Jim Crow and most recently the so called civil rights act which they fought tooth and nail.

But what the donkeys did do was convince black women to leave their men and marry the state via food stamps and section 8. Back in the 50s the percentage of black babies born into wedlock was around 75%. Now that figure has plummeted to about 25%.

Democrats hate black people and try their best to subert black culture. They put abortion clinics in every poor and black neighborhood and even the founder of Planned Parenthood said that she wanted to kill as many minority children as possible before they are born.

>>938694498 (OP)
Will the left ever give up their idiotic narrative that the right in America, and in particular the Republican party after Trump's take over is fascist?
A fascist would never want to cut taxes, never want to reduce federal spending or government programs, would never want to reduce the governments role in peoples lives, would never give back power to the states and a hundred other things Republicans have been arguing for and doing in the last 30 years.

But you know what is fascist? How about a political campaign lying about it's opponent working together with an enemy state, then has that lie "investigated" by intelligence agencies, then the party uses that "investigation" to try to invalidate an election, not just once but twice, and when that fails then locks up it's political opponents lawyers and advisors for having done their jobs thwarting the conspiracy.

Rightards lack earnesty. Everything you say lacks geniune beleif, it's all attempted gotchas.

You can never acknowledge reality, it's always some gay word or mind game you're trying to play. Just speak plainly.

>>938694498 (OP)
I'm fascinated by this behavior, because even if you don't like the party, don't you have morals or scruples that you adhere to? Policies, issues that are important to you, etc? Seems pretty short sighted to just abandon your beliefs because of vibes.

>>938695916
Interesting how you left out suspending due process, censoring the media, and federalizing the police, y'know, the stuff that actually does meet the definition of fascism.

>>938694903
Yet the "republicans" are the actual racists now and the democrats are for reparations and shit. You're going by ancient standards. Trump is the one getting into fascism now. The only thing your little chart gets right is the color red by the Nazis and fascism.

>>938696210
When has Trump done any of those things? Due process does not automatically mean a day in court, it just means the process you are due. And the process an illegal alien is due is being found, arrested, confirmed to be in the country illegally and then deported.

Which media companies or journalists have been censored by the administration, which police forces have been federalized?

>>938694498 (OP)
The uniparty is cancer.

>>938696322
>When has Trump done any of those things
LOL
you are not serious right now just look at what's happening in your own country
fucking retard

>>938696645
I'm not American, and my country is doing great.
If you think the Trump administration has done what you accuse it of having done, give an example. Who has had their due process suspended or taken away? Which journalists or media companies have been censored by the government? Which police forces have been turned into a federal agency?

>>938694498 (OP)
>fascism
another brainwashed leftist sockpuppet

>>938694903
>the founder of Planned Parenthood said that she wanted to kill as many minority children as possible before they are born.
wtf i love the democrats now

>>938696645
>didn't read the post

>>938696322
>It doesn't mean a day on court.
It actually literally does. Immigration court, to prove you're A. An immigrant.
Who is B. Not currently protected, and C.
Lacks legal status.
Due process clearly was intended to apply to immigrants. The word Citizen is used 10 times in the constitution, all of those times specifically intended to differentiate non-citizens from citizens. The word person appears 28 times, and was distinctly written with the intent, each and every time, to mean all individuals regardless of citizenship, as a contrast to "citizen" or "citizens."
If they didn't intend for EVERY person to receive due process, they would've specified. They specified that foreign nationals, meaning diplomats who are only beholden to the laws of their home country, didn't have a right to due process. They were prescient enough to specify citizen ve non-citizens every single other time, but Republicans want us to all believe the founders just misspoke this time.
They specified the amount of due process, and what it protects, life, liberty, and property. Those things can be attained and held without citizenship, and you can be tried under the laws of the United States without citizenship (the immigration law is an example of this exact point.) so you are under the jurisdiction of the United States.

I don't understand how many times I have to re-read the constitution to redhats.

>>938697661
People go through plenty of due process every day that doesn't involve the courts at all. All due process is that the government must respect all legal rights owed to a person, that the governments actions are not unreasonable or arbitrary. It means the process you will undergo must be the same process that is standard for anyone else in similar circumstances.

>>938697661
you're missing the point that people don't care what the constitution says, or how the court interpreted, the constitution gets reinterpreted all the time, like in the last year even, and new laws are made
if you ask many people they will tell you they don't think illegal aliens should have rights or be allowed due process, and should be deported as fast as humanly possible
no one cares about your reddit "umm akshually" arguments, they just want the illegals gone

>>938697980
It's you who has missed the point.

The point they were making was that that that is unconstitutional and fascist. Which you have proven?

You can't even follow a thread for more than one post..

>>938698225
the opinion that illegals should have rights is a matter of interpretation by the courts and case law
laws can be changed
and it's not fascist to remove illegals from the country, it's already the law

>>938694903
>the spectrum
one-dimensional, as evidenced by the placement of politically opposed ideologies right next to each other.
collapsing the landscape to one dimension serves one purpose only: to reduce reality to absurdity.

>>938698284
Righy right....misinterpreted........remind me again, how many countries on this planet still having fucking kids as a religious and legal backing? Everyone from Japan to Africa down to the sand nigger culture you say?
Weird you'd admit to not giving a fuck how vile outsiders truly are when it's convenient for your happiness to ignore huh?
Weird. It's like you live terminally online with no regrets about how useless your logic really is about people who refuse to even act like human fuckin beings in ANOTHER COUNTRY full of people who literally give the absolute most fucks about human life, to the point of hypocrisy.

But yknow. Misinterpreted. Laws reflect public opinion. If America's is to hate pedophiles when politicians refuse to hate them, what does that tell you about the countries who keep wanting those politicians help?

>>938698284
Tbf it's actually an argument of security given how many nations through history have infiltrated eachother just to fuck eachother only.

Meanwhile they blame America for 300 years of time as if we did anything g to the thousands of years and pages of history they wrote about how vile their culture really was to eachother.

It's fuckin baffling the amount of entitlement these years brought.
It's like they forget a bunch of retards "making progress" is still retards doing damage to make THEIR version of progress with disregard to everything.

I actually can't wait for the next world War. I actively can't wait to see how fuckin cowardly everyone turns to reality bombing them too.

>>938694498 (OP)
This. I grew up with fairly progressive views but actually living under progressivism for a few decades cured me of any such delusions. Homosexuals aren’t normal people, they are monsters. Niggers aren’t human. Women belong in the home.

>>938696159
The plain truth is just that. Leftist people can't stop with the obnoxious moral posturing. People hate you.

>>938696725
That's a bold way to lie like Americans don't get everyone's news freely while half of you get arrested for VPNs

>>938696159
Weird to admit you believe in the people that side with child fuckers for a religious belief.


But what do I know about people admitting strange things online and as a namefag no less.

The pedophiles are out in full force tonight. Why do you vote for child fuckers?

>>938704199
>Votes for a pedophile
>Supports a pedophile
>"Everyone but me is a pedophile!'
>Also a newfag
Release the files Ronald Grump child fucker.

>>938694498 (OP)
>hurr I don't like trans people so I'm going to change literally every other position I have durr
retard

>>938697921
>the government must respect all legal rights
That's the problem, retard.

>>938705068
Didn't vote but as usual"you said something so you're either a trumpie or a leftie"
Been over 20 years watching you reddit retards and your overlords destroy this site, more so now that it's infected with fbi bait and bot spams.
But yknow, admit you support entire countries worth of sand nigger pedophiles, Japanese pedophiles and otherwise cause you think me voting for the orange handbag makes the judges actually charge the pedophiles in Cali, where they ignore every law they can.


Fuckin retard bait using retard logic xD you're right. Let's see the list and EVERY country's politicians that were involved with it :) I bet even the prophet Mohammed ended up on it xD

>>938694903
>>938695916
One look at the monopolies of tech giants that own the way you think and interact with the world makes your whole concept of fascism vs. liberty collapse.
To quote an early libertarian thinker, Henri Lacordaire : "Between the strong and the weak, between the rich and the poor, between master and servant, it is freedom that is oppressive and the law that sets free."

>>938705126
So is religion that openly admits they fuck kids but yall still let pro Israeli and palestenian flags fly.
Shit some of you are in denial that you think of fucking child cartoon characters even though yall go to fucking Facebook with your full name in view talking about it.

But yknow. Ignore anything you can for happiness. That tunnel vision hypnotized yall.

>>938694498 (OP)
maron is completely fucking retarded. he formed all of his political opinions based on his jealousy of rogan's success.

he thinks he should be the one with the massive podcast, but he's too fucking boring and unfunny.

he's also had bad interactions with every fucking comedian under the sun. it's because he's an asshole.

>>938705435
t. Trumpie

>>938694498 (OP)
>I Support The Current Gaslight

I have only three comments for this thread:

1 - Maron is pretty on target here
2 - People who think a political party stands for any real, consistent belief are deluded. Both (all) parties are built to consolidate power, which means that their policies are malleable and shift with the aim of attracting more followers. In the 1800s, republicans became a thing by consolidating the northern businesses and their workers, while whigs were seen as too namby-pamby and the Democrats were beholden to southern landowners and their political-favor machines. After slavery, republicans tried to attract the southern landowners by allowing jim crow, which was mostly a local Democrat thing. By the turn of the century (18th-19th) the democrats had successfully peeled off a bunch of the working underclass by appealing to their anti corporate feelings (and republican graft) and their nativism and racial animosity. The Republicans responded with the "progressive" movement and the anti-trust efforts, which split the party for a while, before settling back into a party of corporate interests. Democrats consolidated their southern, racist following until the westward population expansion and great depression allowed them to create a new, populist power base that was far less regional, but was more worker oriented, if not anti-corporate. WW2 kind of fucked it all up and Eisenhower would likely have been a Democrat had the Dem political machine already had a plethora of candidates waiting after 20 years of Roosevelt/Truman presidencies. The commie/socialist faction of the Dems worker focus derailed them for a bit and when Kennedy/Johnson won back the white house, they consolidated their power around black voters, which gave the republicans the opportunity to sway the racists, who had traditionally been southern democrats, to their party. That brings us to around 1970.
3 - The people who think the Dems are permanently out of power fail to recognize the power of economic dissatisfaction.

>>938706854
I will just leave this chart that showxs that 10 out of the past 11 recessions began while a Republican was president and every single republican president except for Reagan left office with higher unemployment than when they took office.

capcha (probably): G0PSX

>>938696322
You stupid fucking retard. Without a day in court for everyone there’s no opportunity to prove you’re not an illegal immigrant in the first place.

Die in a fire so the average intelligence will rise.