Thread 938718702

Just a reminder that in the past 75 years there have been 11 recessions, 10 of which started while a Republican was president

also

>every republican president except Reagan left office with higher unemployment rates than when they entered the office
>~82% of the S&P 500's gains, when measured as a % increase from beginning of presidential term to end of term occured during Democratic presidencies
>in the past 36 years, Democrats have been president for 55% of the time but 95% of the job growth occurred during Democratic presidential terms
>since 1950, the US has been in recession approximately 130 months. 120 of those months were while a Republican as president
>that means that the US was in a recession an avg of 1 year for every 4 years a Republican was President, but only an average of one month for every 4 year democratic presidential term.

>>938718702 (OP)
Unemployment is a lot higher than what the government is willing to tell you, kiddo.

>>938718702 (OP)
could be because GOP presidents lower the tax of rich people and nothing else.

>>938718908
does your chart refute the fact that unemployment rates were higher when republicans left office than when they entered (except Reagan)?

>>938719032
Does yours show they do when it doesn't show accurate unemployment?
No one is going to take your blogs seriously except other prog retards.

>>938718998
Trumphfs's cuts favor the poor.

>>938718998
>hue hue hue

>>938719140
OK, so using your chart, which shows from 1994 onward,

>Higher at the end of Bush than the beginning
>higher at the end of Trump than at the beginning

Since the pre-1994 data on my chart seems to be correct or at least you haven't provided a better option, I know that unemployment was higher at the end of Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford and Bush's terms than the beginning, so my point is correct.

>>938719370
>I know that unemployment was higher at the end of Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford and Bush's terms than the beginning
You don't though. You're believing the government's adjusted bullshit. Have you seen what determines who is unemployed these days? Are you aware that this metric has changed over the years/decades?

>>938718702 (OP)
If republicans could read or cared about facts they'd be very upset.

>>938719593
kek, there's the first one. >>938719140

>>938719232
>and other lies republicans spew

>>938719625
Where's the lie and what republican is spreading it?

>>938718702 (OP)
unemployment rate isn't the economy, the stock market is.

>>938719727
give a stock a shovel and see what is happening.

>>938718702 (OP)
The tarrifs will fix it.

>>938719801
>poor non people tool
the jokes are boring. poor non people are boring. can we stop it with the jokes and turn em into buyable slaves already?

>>938719232
are you a moron? this plainly shows that the effective tax rate dropped
>4 percentage points in nominal terms for the top 0.01%
>3,8 percentage points for the top 1%
>3.9 for the top 5%
>2.1 for the top 10%
>1.9 for the top 20%
>1.9 for 4th quintile
>2 for 3rd quintile
>1.7 for 2nd quintile
>1.4 for the poorest quintile

You are saying that because the poorest had their taxes cut by $140 (probably a high estimate) they benefited more than the top 1% that had their taxes cut by $80,0000 (probably a low estimate)?

>>938719727
No it's not, the velocity of money is. There would still be an economy if the stock market suddenly vanished.

>>938719673
See
>>938719232

>>938719461
wait, so why would eisenhower skew the data to show unemployment was higher at the end of his term than the beginning? Same for Nixon, Bush, Bush and Trump?

>>938719897
So if the poor made more money, then they wouldn't be taxed so much, dollar wise, but had to pay more percentage wise? Why don't they just do that? Let's just get rid of the bottom quntile, amirite?

Lnr2math faggot

>>938719580
I love capitalism. I think Republicans are demonstrably bad for capitalism.

>>938719986
You can look that up anywhere.

>>938719917
please tell me you're stupid enough to convince forex is a part of the stock market.

>>938719987
The President doesn't open the spreadsheet and adjust the numbers, dumbass.

>>938720023
>I think Republicans are...
No one asked.

>>938720011
You said:
> Trumphfs's cuts favor the poor.

This is not true I showed you why.

I actually have very little sympathy for the poors, but your statement was a lie so I pointed it out.

>>938720034
Well yeah, how i know its not true. That and personal experience but I prefer data over anecdotes

>>938720167
Every motherfucker who talks about how the Dems are bad for the economy asked for it.

>>938720185
can we shut the fuck up about pointless debates about who's right and focus on the important part: fuck poor 'people'?

>>938720167
I asked.

Republicans are dog shit at economics.

Republicans are too insecure to admit they're dropouts and only know how to steal money for rich people, not build a healthy economy.

>>938720052
It doesn't matter. There are shithole countries that don't have a single publicly traded company, yet they still have an economy, because people are still buying and selling shit and taking out loans. The stock market is not the economy, the movement of money is. If the Fortune 500 suddenly stopped buying, selling, operating, whatever, the economy would come to a near halt, but you could still buy and sell their stock.

>>938720285
ngl that sounds like a healthy economy. more women forced into prostitution >;3

>>938720185
>I showed you why
You played math games.

>>938720213
>how i know its not true
Just because you think so?

>>938720240
OK - how about this:

Poor people suck and get screwed no matter who is president. We are lucky they are too poor to travel to the good neighborhoods and kill the rich and have mostly been disenfranchised for their crimes or incapacitated to the point they don't vote or we'd all be in trouble.

That said I like it when the 25-90%-ers prosper and that happens mostly when Democrats are president.

>>938720350
ok, so you know all the money novement talk you said? yeah, that's forex bub, since most currencies are connected to each other and it's part of the stock market. checkmate dipshit.

>>938720285
>I asked.
I didn't. You obsessed or somethin? No one asked about your feelings, faggot. This isn't a support group. Take that shit to preddit.

>changing economic policies takes time to take effect
>given the size of the country, often years to see results
>by the time they arrive, presidency is over and the next one is almost always the opposite party due to the see-saw effect
wow so hard to figure out
the reality is that good economic conditions are made by republicans who are in power, its just that we start to see their effects by the time democrats take over, so they try to steal the credit, and then they fuck everything up leaving a mess for the next republican to fix

>>938720365
>You played math games.
I did math

>>938720437
>that's forex bub
No it's not, or at least it doesn't have to be. Do you think there were no economies anywhere before forex? You think the 1840s western US didn't have an economy before the banks moved in?

>>938720493
kek, we know, and this is how we know...

>>938720360
>ngl I'm a dropout
More kids raised by poor single moms.

Republicans have nothing but shitty plans. Completely incapable of talking about economics, but will bring that shit up all the time.

>>938720580
barter economies aren't economies.

>>938720612
shut the fuck up you retarded nigger, i'm a kanye west voter.

>>938720395
No because I fact check stuff.
Is English not your first language?

>>938720626
Sure they are. Property and capital grew exponentially under a barter system.
Are fiat economies better?

>>938720660
Post the real numbers then.

>>938720706
duh. more poor people to toss chicken bones at.

>>938720458
I didn't ask about your fucking feelings. Republican shills run like rabbits the moment they hvae to engage in factual conversation.

I just shit on your dropout head. Also, Trump's a pedophile.

>>938720755
Oh man. Rent free with this one. Nice to know you're not a republican in this thread, logfag.

>>938720724
No thanks, I'm not convinced you could understand them even if you wanted to.

>>938720881
>No thanks, I don't really have them and I've been lying again
Typical

>>938720486
did you not read the chart? you sound like my aunt.

>How long had Bush been in office when the 2008 recession hit?
>Republicans had been president for 10 years when the 1991 recession hit
>6 years for the 1974 recession
>2 years for the 1971 recession
>8 years for the 1960 recession
>5 years for the 1957 recession
>3+ years for the 2020 recession.

So OK, you could blame Clinton for the 2001 recession, even though it was a combination of a stock bubble and Bush letting Bin Laden destroy the twin towers.

And sure, you could argue that the 1982 recession may have had lingering effects from Carter, although I would say Nixon's price stabilization efforts were the real culprit.

It still doesn't bode well for Republican policies if only 80% of the recessions are their fault instead of 92%

>>938718702 (OP)
>10 of which are the after effect of a democrat fucking shit up and a republican fixing it
Yeah, we know nigger its why Kamala lost

>>938720802
>mentions logfag and not constant high unemployment rates under republican presidencies.
I accept your concession.

Also, trump is a pedo with a dirty diaper.

>>938721038
I have never been unemployed under any president.

>>938720923
>thinks i keep a spreadsheet of stats for every lie republicans tell

How strange, ty for outing yourself as retarded btw.

>>938721038
>high unemployment rates under republican presidencies
I never even brought that up. You did, out of nowhere, for no reason other than your menstrual cycle making you overshare your butthurt over a stranger.

>>938721025
see
>>938720947

how is it clintons fault that the economy tanked after 8 years of Bush as President

How is it carters fault that the economy tanked after 10 years of reagan and Bush?

Wait Johnson immediately preceded Ford

Cope harder

>>938720947
Source?

>>938721156
See
>>938721178

>>938721084
I was briefly under Clinton, but that was mostly because I quit my job after making a mint on pets.com and selling before it tanked.

Got a job the day I started looking again though, after squandering most of my $80,000 on cocaine, booze and a nice prelude I crashed.

>>938721109
it was literally in the first post and the point of this thread

>>938721084
This, unemployment seems like a problem for people who barely work or have a corporate position. I work in oil fields and at the worst of it I spent 4 months on basic hours (40/week) and no overtime.

>>938721084
Who doesn't want their dick sucked?

anecdotal bullshit

>>938721244
Well yeah, thats called a nigger holiday, thats not unemployed or unemployable.

>>938721197
>>938721178
It is in the chart in the first post.
or you could just google "when were the past 11 recessions"

>>938720947
>you could blame Clinton for the 2001 recession
Not him but dude, you can partially blame Clinton for the housing crisis in 2008. Reagan's policies lasted all the way to the Clinton era. Some of this shit takes a looooong time to see effects. Some shit, like the Dems' Covid lockdowns, are immediate, making it look like Trump had high unemployment due to his own actions. This was exactly the Dems' plan.

>>938721300
>real life experience doesn't mean shit when I have quantifiable evidence that my bias is more prevalent.
Ok

>>938721109
>continues to run like a coward
I know.

>You brought it up.
Scroll to OP's post, fucking republican retard. Economics discussion. You're republican. All you do is lose on economics.

>>938721323
I am like the whitest country club wasp you will ever meet, but point taken

>>938721327
Seems like the recession happens after a democrat though...or am I seeing a different chart.

>>938721282
But not the points I made. Did you logspeak the wrong post way up top there and got stuck?

>>938721387
Good for you faggot nobody asked, my point was facetious, I already knew you where being a fuckboi.

>>938721378
>fucking republican
>You're republican
kek, whatever you say I guess. Seems you're constantly surrounded by imaginary demons, logger.

>>938721361
Hilarious.

Citation?

>>938721361
I mean but reagans policies also were involved inthe worst single day stock market crash ever and the 1991 recession. And also, the republicans had 8 fucking years to fix the housing bubble and didn't. Clinton's banking reforms were bad, but they were republican ideas and the republicans didn't change them, but only exacerbated them with continued low rates.

Its a shame that republicans can never take responsibility for anything.

>>938721499
Citation for what, a history book?

>>938721369
>anecdotal bullshit isn't anecdotal bullshit
Your parents raised a tard

>>938721397
if you mean years after, like I point out here:
>>938720947

>>938721502
And? You have a point here?

>>938721502
Essentially republicans of the 80s and 90s sucked then Clinton sucked and we had another sucky republican followed by another sucky Democrat followed by.....
Weird that people keep voting on partisan lines. You'd think by now they would go "well both of them are dickbags"

>>938721502
>republicans can never take responsibility for anything
Tell me the last politician who took responsibility for anything.

>>938721554
Your sister should have swallowed. Qualitative research is the only reason your believe in psychology.

>>938721548
You have some theory. Theories have citations.

You just have putin's cock in your mouth 24/7. I bet that makes it tough to read an eocnomics textbook.

>>938721570
No...like it literally shows that a recuession hits at the end of every democrat presidency and rises again before the next one.

>>938721624
What theory? This shit is all recorded history.
>You just have putin's cock in your mouth 24/7
Citation?

>>938721580
yes,

The point is that republicans always have recessions and then try to blame everybody else.

>>938721659
How? Every recession is solved within their presidency.

>>938721617
Biden took responsibility for fixing the economy after trump fucked it up. He took responsibility for preventing putin from marching over europe.

He even took responsibility for being too old to win anymore and retired.

Trump ain't that classy.

>>938721659
That is true, except when the democrats always have recessions and then try to blame everybody else the other half of the time.

>>938721717
lul

>>938721645
>inb4 "thats the fuckin' bubble bursting!"
No, stop it, stop lying to yourself.

>>938721620
You already lost this, republican dropout.

Time to cheat and lie some more.

>>938721717
Huge kek.

>>938721717
I lost.

>>938721800
>>938721786
>>938721717
riddle me this libtards: which one of the lolis will he diddle?

>>938721771
Whew, left really can't meme. Needs some more logs, or something about warms, or maybe BBC, that's more your speed.

>>938721771
> what the fuck is qualitative vs quantitative research!?!
Its a thing bro, go to school. Social studies rely on qualitative, science relies on quantitative, you think men with their dicks cut off get pregnant, that qualitative, thats opinion. Don't say it isn't important when you contradict yourself about it

>>938721598
except the recessions pretty much only start while a Republican President, almost all the jobs are created while a democrat is president, and the unemployment almost always rises while a Republican is president and nearly 85% of stock market come while a democrat is president.

If you think the late 90s were a bad time ecoonomically, you are wrong.

If you think the consistent rebuilding of the workforce and personal wealth that occurred under Obama sucked, you have no sense of perspective.

The data is clear: the US economy always crashes with a Republican president and always does better with a Democrat as president.

>>938721620
>Qualitative research is the only reason your believe in psychology.
Malapropism.

>>938721617
carter

>>938721717
>fixing the economy
>preventing putin from marching over europe
>too old to win anymore and retired
Are these all things in your upcoming fanfic? Whew lad.

>>938721842
Im laughing at the fact that the homosexuals post infers that Biden was anything except the most modern single term president in recent history and deserves reverence.

>>938721901
I'd say it was Reagan but I'm not solid on that. I remember him giving these "face to face" speeches on TV about things not going well, etc.

>>938721645
when was the recession at the end of Obama's presidency?

>>938721759
>>938721786
>>938721800
>>938721842
rekt and samefag.

>>938721965
try again

>>938721877
No literally, your graph shows that the recovery period is during republican presidency, and the decline starts during democrat presidency. How are you blind to that?

>>938721880
Who cares, its mostly true and you know it.

>>938721864
>polls are concrete economic data
I already accepted your concession, little carmine.

>>938721951
>WHEN was the recession at the END of Obama presidency?
At the end of it...

>>938718702 (OP)
In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat", explaining: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump

>>938721710
1 - have you read this thread? everyone trying to blame a 2008 recession on a guy who had been out of office for 7 years or blaming Ford and Bush 1's recession on a guy two presidencies ago.

Plus, the 2008 recession wasn't solved until Obama was in office and the republican's bitched about how it was solved.

>>938722065
Nigger there are more than two people in this thread, way to cop the fuck out though.

>>938721901
Regan had a higher unemployment rate than Carter.

>>938721719
you mean the one time in the past 75 that a recession started while a Democrat was President? Oh wait, that one time in 1978, President Carter took responsibility for it,

>>938722012
>>938722012
Who cares if you are incapable of forming short sentences? I agree.

>>938722092
The 2008 recession wasnt fully solved until 2018 technically. Specifically it never really was, everyone lost their money, rates became inflated and the housing market has never recovered it has only gotten worse. So no, Obama made shit worse in the problem of partisan politics by allowing propaganda to gain a major foothold through his FCC regulations. Fuck you if you think a party matters and not your own freedom tbh.

>>938721965
>>938721983
how often did you samefag today, logfag? 200 times? 400 times ? 600 times?

>>938722211
forgot the picture showing how hard we samefag.

>>938718702 (OP)
There's no recession. Capitalism creates a huge amount of wealth, but an even bigger amount of money, that must disappear one way or another. You can eventually delay the crash by cheating, in which the democrats appear to be very good at, but the outcome is inevitable. So you can live on credit like a moron or live according to your means like a sane man and save for the bad years.

Pic unrelated.

>>938722182
> I think using big words makes me smort
Good for you, not sure what you thought was a misused term but its funny you thought so kid.

>>938718908
This, so much this.
Depending on how they want to skew public perception they use U3 or U6. Those are MONTHS. 3 months Unemployed and 6 months Unemployed, so if you're unemployed for longer than 6 months YOU DO NOT MATTER.
I've been working with many people who are often "unemployed" longer than a year. We're doing "gig" work in landscaping, carpentry, wood, metal, masonry, concrete, drafting (this in particular for clients filing for permits with city/county/state), welding, CNC, and dozen other trades. Single task often just a single day worth of work, get paid when done, hustle to find the next job.
Just because I've earned $5K in one week doesn't mean I can live like Trump, I may not land another job for weeks. I have been unemployed since 2011, but haven't been Unemployed™ since 2012.

>>938722107
>we're not one dropout republican
Makes no difference. You missed the point. You're either samefagging or NPC's with the same programmer.

>>938721986
the graph charts unemployment rate. the line moving up means unemployment is rising, not that the economy is getting better.

>>938722092
>everyone trying to blame a 2008 recession on a guy who had been out of office for 7 years
Repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act
Strengthening the Community Reinvestment Act
Subprime Lending
Bush W is also to blame, but I'll let you look that up yourself.
>the 2008 recession wasn't solved until Obama was in office
He still didn't solve it. It's still happening. Just because all the subprime borrowers lost their homes, making it look like lending was reset or fixed, doesn't mean the banks aren't still pulling their usual shit.

>>938722238
>save for the bad years
Nigger it took me a decade to finally get a job in which i can afford housing, not all of us are 45 or older and bought houses when they where more affordable.

>>938718702 (OP)
Democrats are great they raise taxes on everybody.
Then Republicans come in and lower taxes for the wealthy.
It is a great system.

>>938722180
>started while a Democrat
>started because of a Democrat
pick one

>>938722293
>you missed the point
You never had one, fuck off reactionary

>>938722296
Unemployment isnt a linear reflection of an economies strength. Covid proved that to you retards.

>>938721946
Actually it was probably Bush 1, btu yep, that was the end of it.

After that it was all gotcha journalism and weaponization of decency from both sides.

>>938722211
I am definitely not the logfag. I'm able to write legible paragraphs that are on topic.

>>938722314
Yeah, nothing like ignoring the favors one party does over the other is more american!

>>938722202
>Sounds like he knows economics, but he only knows finance.
If, by "solved", you mean republicans brought us another recession, sure.

republicans. perpetually retarded.

>>938722383
>on topic
You're way the fuck off topic right now fool.

>>938722211
>things logfag says after he gets his shit packed in for not knowing economics

>>938722406
>I dont know ill just make shit up
OK haha, good luck in partisan life kid. Keep your day job though, the next president isn't going to save you anymore than the last one did

>>938722302
Why would anyone buy a home when renting exists ?

>>938722484
I bought property, 65 acres, and built a house. I dont know why renting exists.

>>938722298
all I am saying its fine to blame Clinton's policies, but Bush had 7 years to fix it and didn't. Instead he doubled down on it with the help of the fed chair

>>938722374
>probably Bush 1
Seriously? He was such an evil motherfucker, I couldn't imagine it. Not evil like "Hurr durr Drumpf is genociding troons", but evil as in a fucking focused warhawk who would do anything to achieve his goals.

>>938722314
No republican has ever lowered the deficit in our lifetimes.

>>938722314
TBH, taxes should be much higher for everyone.

>>938722538
Good, Russia didnt deserve any better, Bush cleaned that dumbass shit up.

>>938722350

All I hear is excuses.

every data point shows the economy is better when a Democrat is president

>>938722556
Agreed, if you want a better quality of life what does it matter if you can afford your 5th TV?

>>938722350
>Unemployment isnt a linear reflection of an economies strength. Covid proved that to you retards.
dropout.

>>938722512
You have problems reading or something? I have said the same thing twice now and you've agreed with me twice but you're acting like you're arguing.

>>938722555
They have, you just refuse to admit that long term gains should be given to the people who where in charge of the bill.

>>938722607
>when a Democrat is president
But never after, huh? Weird

>>938722607
Because of republican policy, why is it always worse when Republicans first get in but better when a democrat takes over, its not like shit happens immediately amirite.

>>938722610
>dropouts
Thats your argument? OK then. If the economic impact of covid on business didnt show you that unemployment is nonlinear and more reflective of business practices then you forgot to pay attention during the whole thing.

>>938722505
If you don't have the money, don't buy real estate, because you'll be in a stupid amount of debt and it's always a bad thing. If you have the money, don't buy real estate, because it yields 4% when stocks do 8%. Also, when your state is taken over by silly policies, you can't move your home to a better place, you're a slave to the place.

>>938722470
>Your accurate economic arguments must be partisan, since I have been proven to be a fraudulent dropout.
You voted for trump and try to make that statement. Idiot.

>>938722668
I mean just look at the data and decide for your self.

Seriously, in 16 years the Republican presidents could only net like 2 million jobs while the dems netted 50 million in 20 years?

>>938722750
What are the yields on rent?

>>938722679
because the democrats fix it when they take over.

>>938722784
I did, which is why I said that. Can you not read graphs? ESL?

>>938722750
>youre wrong because I say so
Step onto my property and get shot, legally its allowed which is more than I care about your petty view point. I have never lost because of a president.

>>938722822
what data?

show me

>>938722771
>I have no point
Still going I see. Must be autistic awareness day.

>>938722852
OP posted it. Th'fucks wrong with you?

>>938722814
Right but somehow the economy going to shit under biden was trumps fault....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Boring...youre a boring faggot.

>>938722878
Thats not data its a single graph from a single source representing their datum. Data is plural you fuckin pleb.

>>938722748
>more dropout attempts at economic bullshit
Yeah, dropout, MARKET economies do better when more CONSUMERS are EMPLOYED.

basic fucking economics.

>>938722927
Oh jesus fuck, you're one of them.

>>938722900
And Obama blamed Bush for everything. They were still blaming Bush during Trump's first term.

>>938718702 (OP)
>democrat funded research group prints media saying democrats are better
OK homo

>>938722857
>another non-economic argument
Your concession was already accepted, dropout.

republicans can't economics.

>>938723004
OK and? Thats the whole point you daft nigger, stop imbibing partisanship so the jews can fucking win again.

>>938722955
Im trying, you faggots should fuck off to /pol/>>938723069

>>938723069
The top two are ad homs.
The bottom two were proven true.
I hope Trump is a pedophile, but we'll have to see.

>>938723096
I was agreeing with you and adding another instance.

>>938723069
>economics
The discussion was the falsehood that republicans cause recessions even though recessions are typically fixed under their leadership and trend downward under democrats as proven by OPs image.
You seem lost homie.

>>938723069
>dropout

>>938723176
Don't fucking agree with me! Im trying to be contrived!

>>938718702 (OP)
>>938723069
>Loses arguments.
>time to start loading up OP comments
hack.

>>938723133
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>>938723188
>>938723200
More samefaggotry.

>>938723151
>ad homs
Fuck off back to redit nigger, fallacies dont make an argument incorrect, they are just rude in the eyes of proper argumentation, youd know that if you actually learnt argumentation.

>>938723264
Nope, just me again with the blueboard.

>>938723264
Yep the sameist

>>938723188
Well, you lost that discussion in 5 minutes and now it's just you sucking russian cock, shilling until the next shift of shills comes in.

>>938723333
Fuckin chek'd and >>938723334
Wrek'd

>>938723345
>you lost that discussion
Fucking how?

>>938723200
I introduced "I accept your concession" to 4chan. That was my thing.

Not logfag, but you're welcome.

>>938723417
>im a plebbit fag
So go back.

>>938723306
Really nigger? The majority of the MAGA crowd thought that schools were performing troon surgery and that there was some pedo cult living under a pizza joint? Who the fuck would even perform these surgeries, the PE teacher? As I remember it, lefties were losing their shit because they thought a doctor performing a genital inspection for sports was someone at the school blowing the kids.

>>938723417
You didn't, and you are.
Obviouslogfag is obvious.

>>938723391
Unemployment peaks under republican presidencies in the last half century.

You lost. Well, we all lost by electing republicans.

>>938723492
Notice how the upward slope always precedes the R Presidency?

>>938723465
What the fuck does that have to do with using fallacies as a copout for actually discussing an issue?

>>938723490
Sadly, I am an oldfag and would not lie about my claim to fame. I hurt the trolling industrial complex a little.

>>938723188
Except that's the opposite of what happens

>>938723492
>>938723548
Bullshit, unemployment hits as republicans take office and hits peak retention when they leave office meaning it starts declining under democrats, OPs image literally shows that.

>>938723583
Your pic anon. Wtf are you talking about?

>>938723625
The graph's right there at the top. You can lie about it all you want but it's right there.

>>938723610
Lern2graph

>>938723610
>>938723642
>>938723687
Imagine thinking anyone gives a shit what biased graphs say

>>938723598
>Sadly, I am the logfag and lie about just about anything to further my kike agenda and be boring as fuck

>>938723548
>Notice how the upward slope always precedes the R Presidency?
Shit that didn't happen. Are you crosseyed like Kash Patel?

Your concession was already accepted.

>>938723598
>muh heuristic
Kill yourself retard nobody cares.

>>938723730
Imagine thinking the lefty faggot logfag who posted that image gives a shit about it and got BTFOd as usual.

>>938723817
>its the logfag
Zoomers are so fucking boring.

>>938723807
>Shit that didn't happen
So you can't see it? Is that you Kash?
>nyt
No one gives a shit about your lefty blogs

>>938723715
>Doesn't understand the data
>>938723730
>Rejects the data
The two ends of the spectrum of conservative debate

>>938723850
Logfag's a zoomer? I thought you were older, like an older millennial.

>>938723625
>I'm just going to lie with a goddamned graph at the top showing that I am lying.
Your concession was already acceptedd

>>938721719
You can lead a republican to facts but you can't make them think

>>938723069
bruh, if we just cut taxes for the rich one more time, they'll finally have enough to reinvest

>>938723933
>odd how having a garden and not being a city fag can offset your bloody pussy

>>938724746
Yeah but land can't vote!

>>938724800
Somehow it was able to spread a virus though...
>seewhatimdoinhere?

>>938724800
Land voted in 2024.

>>938724896
>land voted
sure it did you pedo loving fucklord

>>938724939
What the fuck does my love of lords have fuck all to do with the fact that Kamala Lost.

>>938724956
>haha see!!!
I remember being a 9year old girl once.

>>938724975
>source: none

>>938725069
>>938725053

>>938722900
Things only got better under Biden. You spit putin's dick out of your mouth to say something that obviously disprovable?

>>938723004
Obama was all ups. He didn't need to blame Bush for shit. More lies.

Your concession was already accepted.

When are you libtards and conservatards gonna finally kill yourselves?

>>938724746
>republicans are so bad at economics that we have to return to agrarian society
republicans trying to sell their shit economics as rugged frontierism. lmao.

>>938720149
>Eisenhower
>Open the spreadsheet
Nobody was opening spreadsheets in 1959. They were fucking printed pieces of paper then you retard.

>>938723945
>republican
Fuck off with this tribal shit and look at the big picture. [Insert party here] was never there to help you. Government was never on your side, which is why we drew up the Constitution.

>>938723933
>Charles Kuck
This can't be real.

>>938724956
>Hitler and Putin channel their intellect for their own and the public good
KYS commie fuck

>>938724975
>unsourced facebook trash
go back

>>938725317
>no, of course I don't remember

>>938727851
>Eisenhower
>Same for Nixon, Bush, Bush and Trump
>the President
Just acting, huh?

>>938721156
>10 years of Reagan and Bush
We have a real genius here
>>938721717
And this must be his good friend

>>938728340
OP was responding to a question about Eisenhower tread. Loosen the straps on your tard helmet, the blood is getting cut off from your brainlet.

>>938728627
And also mentioned modern Presidents. Time to get checked.

>>938728706
>imma make up shit to cover for my dumbassery
sad

>>938728803
It truly is

>>938721293
>at the worst of it
This. Fuck scared ass liberals

>>938728803
Why dont you faggots just kiss on skype already

>>938728843
what kind of derangement caused someone to make this shit meme?

>>938719897
Reminder for morons like you that the rich don't EVER pay taxes. They all participate in Jewish schemes where they pay themselves in stocks, take out low interest loans from Jews with said stocks as collateral, pay ZERO in taxes, that's fucking right: ZERO in taxes, and run off with their billions investing in real estate and other crap they want. Then the Jew bank cashes in on the stock value and gets their few percent points in interest, which they also cleverly don't pay taxes on.

And this is just ONE, ONE of the schemes available. Clever loss accounting, llcs, etc., all used to ensure no profit, no taxes in perpetuity.

And you fucks don't even hold the Jewish Democrats or the Jewish Republicans accountable. Ever. The last time you tried, Identity politics was used to crush your little occupy movement. Jews win and you, the poorfag, will always lose.

>>938729335
Jewish bullshit.

>>938729335
literally every president since fdr has increased debt and inflated the money supply

>>938732946
Clinton left office with a budget surplus, doofy. Bush promptly wasted it.

>>938733146
>Clinton left office with a budget surplus
He raided SS and left a bunch of IOUs and then played accounting tricks. He spent just like the rest of them.

>>938733201
>shit I just made up to deflect from my lies

>>938733275
"Budget surplus" is a lefty lie that never existed in reality. This has ben debunked by multiple parties over the years.

>>938733313
Here's another.

>>938733322
And another.

>>938733313
Sure looks like a debt plateau during the clinton years. Even your bullshit graph doesn't back your lies.

>>938719232
why dont Americans have thresholds for the poorest tranche of income tax?
you really asking your poorest citizens to fill out a 50page form every year and shake them down for 10 bucks?

>>938733313
>>938733322
>>938733392
>here's 3 obviously altered sources of information
Golly gee willickers sir, I figured you where at least smart enough to post real and factual information with the amount of emotional reaction you've had here. And yet....

>>938733313
Looks like overall the blue fags are costing us the most. Time to dick em down.

>>938734258
No, if you make under 12k a year fuck off.

>>938734458
>real and factual information
>believes the surplus lie
Just like "suckers and losers" and "very fine people", right lib?

>>938734258
Poorest don't file and it's a 1 or 2 page form, depending on what you want to use.

>>938733606
>debt plateau
>totally the same as a surplus

Don't fall for the bait. Blue states make up 65% of America's economy and red states make up 35%. Don't even get us started on federal tax contributions. Red states are literally the welfare queens of the US. Reminder to harass and demean your local Republicans. Mind controlled, knuckle-dragging neanderthals

>>938734679
>lib
Kek, I love interjecting.

>>938734781
"blue states" are only blue due to their population, not their area so referring to it as "state" is retarded, its more like a concentration of morons near the coast. Any coast.

>>938735194
>inb4 Arizona
Mexico is an immigrant sea according to the media.

>>938734781
And red states take the majority of federal aid per capital.

>>938735549
They also have the lowest cost of living, lowest groceries, medical bills, rent, electricity....almost like they want poor folks to live there.

>>938735654
Sorry, I meant blue states. Blue states take the lions share of federal funding.

>>938718702 (OP)
>>513601608
light em lads

>>938719727
The federal reserve has been altering the stock market since at least the Obama presidency. Read up on quantitative easing. Stock market has nothing to do with the actual economy. It’s just a big fucking lie.

>>938741537
It's more that the rate of deflation has been increasing in recent years, which means that you need to have less money to buy the same amount of goods

>>938738461
25 of the 75 are counted? so that's like a third of the non-recessions and 95% of the recessions

>>938718702 (OP)
fuck off back to /pol/ nigger. money printing is bad for the economy in the long run. see you in the next reset.

>>938742414
That doesn't even take into account the 46 years that the Demorcrats were the majority in either chamber of congress for more than a year.

>>938718702 (OP)
recessions are caused by jews

>>938718702 (OP)
Always the same story... Repubs fuck things up, Dems elected to clean up the mess, giving Repubs free time to manipulate the electorate into reelecting them

Lather, rinse, repeat

>>938744488
kikes love it when we left foot right foot.
Hell we could even manage a socialist economy, we are white, we could manage any economic system.
It's the kikes that fuck everything up.

>>938744465
jews don't give a shit about your unemployed uncle.

Hey there! I'm a 21-year-old girl from the Midwest, with a little extra curve and a lot of confidence. I love to take control during our private chats and push your buttons until you can't take it anymore. I thrive on the thrill of teasing and playing, especially when it's just between us. Meeting new people in person can be a bit nerve-wracking for me, which is why I'm all about those flirty convos online. If you’re into some wild fun and good vibes, hit me up! Just add me on the chat app, my username is g e n vuq (make sure to remove the spaces!). Can't wait to get to know you!

Bump

>>938734781
Don't forget that red states are literally less valuable to the United States than Blue states. Red states are breeder states utilized for cheap, uneducated labor and military feeder families. Blue states subsidize red states.

>>938742414
>the rate of deflation has been increasing in recent years
Are... are you joking?

>>938752419
>Nooooo, you can't heckin get rid of our socialist programs

>>938752027
See >>938755328
The blue states take the most when looked at per capita. Have fun with no oil or steel or anything else manufactured. One giant California sure does sound nice, doesn't it?

>>938722272
You want people who have objectively held employment within a 4 week period to be considered unemployed because they don't make enough money to live?
You do understand that is definitionally retarded right?
The same reason it's retarded to consider people who refuse to look for work "Unemployed"
These are labor force numbers. If you're not even looking, you're not apart of the labor force, you're not even unemployed, you're not looking. If you have worked, but only intermittently, you're underemployed, there is a metric that counts you as unemployed already, it's called the U6. You're marginally attached, or considered "Discouraged."
Those AREN'T MONTHS. Why do you believe that? The polling period of the U3 is 4 weeks. More people are counted as unemployed the higher you go, because it counts someone who hasn't found a job in 4 weeks as unemployed, someone who held a job but for less than 3 months as unemployed, and minimally attached (contract-only) labor as unemployed, it counts discouraged workers and marginal workers as unemployed, and it counts those who work only part-time as unemployed.
Pick your poison, all of these metrics say the same exact shit OP said.

>>938722641
>I believe economic fairytales where influence just lags for 8 years until the next administration.
You're a massive retard.

>>938720608
Dude did you just call him a Jew because you can't do math?

>>938756247
No. I assume he's fucking retarded and a liar.

>>938720706
Barter economies are super inefficient. Economics didn't grow significantly until capital was invented, or until a good which could function as capital (Gold and Silver)
Literally every economy independently invented currency before they were able to effectively trade freely.
There's really obvious issues with barter, stuff you can just assume out of the gate. You need a mutual interest, so if all the potential mutually beneficial trades have already been made, an economy will stagnate, which happened frequently, cyclically, based on seasons. That's why, as populations grew, currency naturally occurred, people traded carved bone, specific rocks, gems, and things without inherent use, because they held value.
If you look at the history of nearly any countries word for what they call their money, eventually you'll find a piece of rock, bone, gem, or metal, that they traded at the dawn of their civilized nation. Of course the Americas are a little different, because they were colonized and the word for money changed based on the largest early colonizing power.

>>938756460
>because I can't do math
ok.

>>938756666
who gives a shit about market economies but capitalist parasites
if you have a cow and want some eggs you trade some milk and get some eggs and there's no shyster middleman to dip his sticky fingers into the middle adding nothing

>>938756708
You obviously don't know how to apply it. Good job on basic subtraction though.

>>938756666
Dude, I understand. What that other faggot was saying is that stock market=economy and nothing else, which makes no sense.

>>938756734
>capitalist parasites
>explains how capitalism is good
You're mad at crony capitalism, which is closer to fascism or socialism.

>>938756831
also,

every single president since harry truman has presided over an increase in the size and influence of the federal government

>>938758308
Truman? It goes back all the way to the early 1800s.