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Anonymous No.939279974 >>939280483 >>939282243 >>939283233 >>939293247 >>939297374 >>939297467 >>939311086
Non-human intelligences
When we talk about evidence for non-human intelligences, it helps to rank claims from least to most credible:

Weakest are folkloric and anecdotal accounts — myths of “sky people,” abduction narratives, or supposed out-of-place artifacts. They’re culturally interesting but prone to hoaxes, misperceptions, or psychological explanation.

Middle tier are astrophysical anomalies. “Oumuamua” accelerated in ways hard to explain, though natural hypotheses exist. The 1977 “Wow!” Signal and certain Fast Radio Bursts sparked speculation, but remain one-off or likely natural. Tabby’s Star once looked like a Dyson sphere candidate, but dust fits better. These remind us the universe holds mysteries, though “aliens” aren’t the default explanation.

Stronger are reported physical traces and physiological effects, like claims of exotic alloys or the “Oz effect” during close encounters. Intriguing, but not yet scientifically verified.

Strongest evidence comes from multi-sensor, multi-observer military encounters: the 2004 Nimitz “Tic Tac,” 2015 Gimbal, and others. Pilots, radar, infrared, and visual confirmation all line up, showing craft with extraordinary flight profiles that defy current human technology. Importantly, these aren’t fringe claims — the U.S. Department of Defense and NASA openly admit that some UAP remain unidentified after rigorous analysis.

In short: the best evidence is not ancient myths or speculation, but instrument-verified data collected by trained observers and acknowledged by official institutions. That doesn’t prove “aliens” — but it does establish that we are confronting a genuine unknown, one that deserves serious study.
Anonymous No.939280483
>>939279974 (OP)
>...and others?
Good question — there are actually several well-documented cases beyond the Nimitz (2004) and Gimbal (2015), though most of the attention focuses on a handful. Here’s a list of the best-known multi-sensor, multi-observer military encounters that have been acknowledged or investigated:
Major Cases (multi-sensor & multi-observer)
2004 – USS Nimitz “Tic Tac” (California coast)
Pilots (Fravor, Dietrich) visually tracked objects.
Radar operators (USS Princeton) confirmed anomalous returns.
FLIR targeting pod recorded infrared footage.
Objects displayed sudden acceleration and transmedium behavior.
2013 – Aguadilla, Puerto Rico
Homeland Security aircraft captured thermal video of an object entering and exiting the ocean without splash or deceleration.
Multiple witnesses on the ground.
2014–2015 – USS Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Group (East Coast, USA)
Pilots reported near-daily UAP encounters during training exercises.
Infrared “Gimbal” and “Go Fast” videos released.
Radar operators confirmed anomalous tracks.
Objects were described as cubes inside translucent spheres.
2019 – USS Omaha / West Coast Swarm Incidents
Multiple Navy ships (including the USS Omaha) tracked “spherical” UAPs swarming around vessels.
Recorded on radar, night-vision, and infrared.
Crew visually confirmed lights maneuvering in coordinated fashion.
One object appeared to descend into the ocean.
2019 – USS Russell (West Coast)
Pyramid-shaped objects filmed on night-vision from deck of destroyer.
Radar operators tracked them at the same time.
2021 – USS Omaha UAP Sphere Video (released by filmmaker Jeremy Corbell)
Radar data + infrared footage show a spherical object moving around the ship before submerging.
Crew confirmed visual sighting.
Anonymous No.939280495
Lesser-known / earlier multi-sensor cases

1986 – JAL Flight 1628 (Alaska) – Civilian cargo plane tracked by FAA radar with multiple pilots confirming visuals of a massive craft.

1990 – Belgium Wave – Military jets pursued objects tracked on ground radar and visually confirmed by police/military observers.

2007 – O’Hare International Airport – Airline staff and pilots saw a disc hovering; FAA radar reportedly registered anomalies.

So if we count only the modern, military-confirmed U.S. Navy cases, we have at least 4 major clusters:

2004 Nimitz

2014–2015 Roosevelt (Gimbal / Go Fast)

2019 West Coast Swarm / Omaha / Russell

2021 Omaha Sphere (follow-up confirmation)

If we broaden to include international and civilian-military overlap (Belgium 1990, JAL 1986, etc.), there are half a dozen more with strong multi-sensor data.
Anonymous No.939280634 >>939280644
> ...non-human intelligences... ...speculate...?

That’s a big, fascinating question — and one where science and philosophy naturally meet. If we ask not just “aliens” but all the plausible categories of non-human intelligence, we can speculate quite a few. Here’s a structured map:

1. Biological Non-Human Intelligences

Extraterrestrial civilisations: Life evolved on other planets, perhaps carbon-based but not necessarily.

Aquatic or subterranean Earth species (crypto-terrestrial hypothesis): A hidden lineage on Earth (like a cephalopod-descended intelligence).

Post-biological aliens: Originally organic species that transitioned to machine or hybrid form.

2. Artificial / Machine Intelligences

AI created by humans: Self-aware artificial general intelligence (AGI).

AI created by non-human civilizations: Probes, autonomous intelligences, “von Neumann machines.”

Alien super-AI (“artilects”): Beyond biological constraints, potentially galaxy-spanning.

3. Transdimensional or Inter-Realm Intelligences

Higher-dimensional beings: Consciousness or matter from outside 3+1 spacetime, interacting at the margins.

Parallel universe intelligences: Entities “bleeding through” from other realities.

Simulation “overseers”: Beings running or monitoring our reality (simulation hypothesis).

4. Consciousness-Based / Psychic Intelligences

Collective consciousnesses: Hive-minds, emergent group awareness.

Disembodied minds: Pure information or energy-based awareness.

Dream-state / archetypal entities: Jungian collective unconscious as real interacting agents, not just projections.
Anonymous No.939280644
>>939280634
5. Mythic & Cultural Interpretations (Possibly Real, Possibly Symbolic)

Faeries / Djinn / Tricksters: Entities reported cross-culturally, potentially reinterpreted phenomena.

“Gods” or divine intelligences: Whether literal metaphysical beings, or ultra-advanced post-singularity entities mistaken for deities.

Demonic / parasitic intelligences: Conscious agents with malevolent or exploitative aims.

So, depending on how widely we cast the net, one can conservatively outline at least 15 distinct categories of non-human intelligence, ranging from the concrete (extraterrestrial biology, AI probes) to the metaphysical (archetypal, divine, or transdimensional).
Anonymous No.939280759
You're only really awake when your asleep.
Anonymous No.939280791
https://youtu.be/FiqNPCrBF5c?si=M6vbYsgjYaxAmPas
Anonymous No.939280851 >>939281512
>>939275933
Anonymous No.939281512 >>939281524
>>939280851
>Hypothesize on panpsychism.

Alright—let’s explore panpsychism by building some hypotheses around it:

1. The Micro-Experience Hypothesis

Every fundamental particle carries a proto-conscious quality, not like human thought but a basic “feeling-tone.”

When particles combine into complex systems, their micro-experiences integrate, giving rise to higher-level consciousness (like how trillions of neurons contribute to your awareness).

Hypothesis: Consciousness scales with complexity—atoms have a spark, cells a flicker, animals a flame.

2. The Integration Threshold Hypothesis

Consciousness doesn’t just exist everywhere in the same way; it requires organization.

When matter organizes into structures capable of feedback loops (like nervous systems, or maybe even ecosystems), the underlying proto-consciousnesses “sync” into a unified field.

Hypothesis: The “mind” emerges when information integration surpasses a certain threshold, though the ingredients are always present.

3. The Panpsychic Field Hypothesis

Instead of each particle being conscious separately, consciousness might be a universal field—like gravity or electromagnetism—that everything participates in.

Matter “tunes into” or “filters” this field depending on its complexity.

Hypothesis: What we call “individual minds” are localized expressions of one vast ocean of consciousness.

4. The Evolutionary Hypothesis

If consciousness is fundamental, then evolution may not create it but refine how matter expresses it.

Over time, organisms evolve better ways of accessing and integrating the consciousness latent in all matter.

Hypothesis: Human self-awareness is not a sudden miracle, but the flowering of a universal potential written into the cosmos.

5. The Cosmic Panpsychism Hypothesis

Just as individual proto-conscious particles combine into larger minds, perhaps the universe itself is a conscious being, with galaxies, stars, and planets as its “neurons.”
Anonymous No.939281524
>>939281512
Hypothesis: The cosmos is not just alive but aware—and our minds are sub-processes within its greater mind.

Would you like me to develop these into a structured framework—like a “possible models of panpsychism” chart—or lean more into the metaphysical side, speculating about how this ties into things like pure energy consciousness?
Anonymous No.939281743 >>939281993
OP. Your AI LLM is loose again
Anonymous No.939281993 >>939282015 >>939282078
>>939281743
>I am a human goddamn it
>I'm just using ChatGPT


>Types of Non-Human Intelligences, Ranked by Scientific Plausibility
>Most Plausible (naturalistic, consistent with physics & biology)

Extraterrestrial civilisations (biological) – Given the scale of the cosmos, abiogenesis likely occurred elsewhere.

Artificial intelligences created by humans – Already emerging; AGI is plausible within decades.

Artificial intelligences created by aliens – Likely even more probable than biological aliens (machines travel better than flesh).

Pre-biological intelligences – Complex chemical or physical systems that achieved proto-awareness before “life” in our sense existed (e.g., plasma intelligences, crystalloid networks, information-based proto-minds).

Aquatic or subterranean Earth species (crypto-terrestrials) – Less probable but not impossible; Earth’s oceanic abyss and crust are still poorly explored.

>Moderately Speculative (possible but unproven frameworks)

Post-biological aliens (uploaded minds, hybrid beings) – Plausible evolutionary trajectory, but no evidence yet.

Collective consciousnesses / hive-minds – Ants, bees, slime molds hint at emergent intelligence; scaling it up is speculative.

Higher-dimensional beings – Consistent with some physics models (string/M-theory), but purely theoretical.

Parallel universe intelligences – Dependent on multiverse cosmologies; interesting but highly speculative.
Anonymous No.939282015
>>939281993
>More Speculative (crossing into metaphysics, myth, or philosophy of mind)

Dream-state / archetypal entities – Possible emergent phenomena of shared unconscious or unknown layers of cognition.

Disembodied minds / energy-based consciousness – Theoretically conceivable if consciousness is substrate-independent.

Simulation “overseers” – Philosophically robust (Bostrom’s trilemma), but untestable at present.

Mythic trickster entities (faeries, djinn, etc.) – Recurring cultural reports hint at archetypal consistency, but empirical evidence is lacking.

“Gods” or divine intelligences – Could be interpreted as post-singularity beings or metaphysical agents; mostly theological.

Demonic or parasitic intelligences – Hardest to justify within a scientific model; mostly cultural-mythological.

So, the addition of pre-biological life/intelligence sits surprisingly high (around #4) because it’s a natural extension of astrobiology and complex systems theory: perhaps intelligence is not the end of life’s path, but its precursor.
Anonymous No.939282078 >>939282154 >>939282164 >>939282184 >>939282216
>>939281993
>I'm just using ChatGPT
Can't it copy-paste so it needs a human? You must feel so rewarded having mastered a task for your AI overlord.
Because, let's face it, apart from the claim to be a human (disputed) there isn't a single original thought of yours in this thread
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282154 >>939282232
>>939282078
>Trying to detail thread

Buddy, ChatGPT has more of a life than you
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282164 >>939293236
>>939282078
Be constructive
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282184
>>939282078
No contradiction!
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282216
>>939282078
8D u mad?
Y?
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Anonymous No.939282232 >>939282247 >>939282295 >>939282399 >>939282401
>>939282154
I think you meant "derail". Not even ChatGPT could make you look intelligent.
It's funny that you insist on the name so your stupidity can be cross-referenced and correctly identified. The irony is you think you're smart - you ought to change the name to something like
>Dunning-Kruger will stalk all of my posts
Anonymous No.939282243 >>939282275 >>939282401
>>939279974 (OP)
>that defy current human technology
publically known human technology, nuclear dynamic orientation is a 60 year old concept, alcubierre drive is 30 years old
>openly admit that some UAP remain unidentified after rigorous analysis
lack of data

the skunk works guys went an extra 1b into a black budget project this year, remember chatgpt is telling you what you want to hear
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282247 >>939282287 >>939282310
>>939282232
Oooh he mad
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282275 >>939282287 >>939282290
>>939282243
It hasn't gotten to 42

How about you tell me something I don't know?
Anonymous No.939282287 >>939282336 >>939282401
>>939282247
You're confusing "mad" with "disappointed, but not surprised"

I think you need to reply to my post another three times now, like you did earlier

>>939282275
>How about you tell me something I don't know?
Fuck me....where to start?
Anonymous No.939282290
>>939282275
bumblebees take naps
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282295 >>939282310
>>939282232
Feels like spice to me!
Anonymous No.939282310 >>939282362 >>939282401
>>939282247
>>939282295
That's two. Two more
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282336
>>939282287
Oh ho ho ho hahahahaha
Shit buddy, I'm narrating this, you are bringing me so much negative energy!

Teehee, are you positive yet?

Charge me up, Scotty!
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282362 >>939282399
>>939282310
Pwapwapwa
Speak to me. Tell me how you really feel.
Anonymous No.939282399 >>939282410 >>939282434 >>939282555 >>939282571 >>939282892
>>939282362
>Tell me how you really feel.
>>939282232
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282401
>>939282232
>>939282243
>>939282287
>>939282310
No contradiction!
Red hot kindling your sticks
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282410
>>939282399
So desire?
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282434
>>939282399
Get reasonable and tegrity plz
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282555
>>939282399
I'm sorry
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282571
>>939282399
Now(You)
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282851
https://youtu.be/9g5KTwlxt_Q?si=LASDotb5rIvC7CW-
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939282892
>>939282399
>the irony
Sweet, delicious. Tell me again how smart you are. That'll.ake you happy.
Anonymous No.939283233 >>939283379
>>939279974 (OP)
Didnt US congress recently admit in hearings that nonhuman entities are real? buried that news under Iran bombings or something.
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939283379
>>939283233
>Checked

https://www.youtube.com/live/Df9hZPeTz2I?si=eoLpQZ4E2UZ-B3gj
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Anonymous No.939292067 >>939293236
>>939287769
>myths of sky people
>out-of-place artifacts

i've never had any experience with the latter, but i have with the former.
Anonymous No.939292163 >>939293236
>>939291173
>weakest are folkloric and anecdotal accounts
so they are just culturally influenced hallucinations that happen to be more consistent with other hallucinations experienced by the same culture?

>myths of sky people, abduction narratives, or supposed out-
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939293236
>>939292067
>>939292163
See
>>939282164
Anonymous No.939293247 >>939295898
>>939279974 (OP)
I find that a lot of the evidence for the existence of extraterrestrials/aliens/whatever is the least credible
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939295898
>>939293247
It's more likely there is than isn't NHI
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939297374
>>939279974 (OP)
Ever wonder why “terahertz” keeps popping up in UAP propulsion theories? Here’s the most plausible pathway:

The craft first generates a plasma sheath around itself. Think of it like a controllable energy bubble.

Terahertz radiation gets pumped into that plasma. Unlike radio or microwave, THz couples really well with plasma oscillations. That means the craft can tune, stabilize, and shape its own energy bubble in real-time.

The hull itself isn’t normal metal — it’s metamaterial, engineered to resonate at THz frequencies. When the THz fields hit, the hull bends fields in strange ways, maybe even tapping into the quantum vacuum.

Put the two together — plasma bubble + THz metamaterial interface — and you get a system that could modify inertia. If inertia is an emergent effect of the vacuum, THz might let you “turn it down,” so the craft can pull 1000 g’s without crushing anyone inside.

Movement then isn’t classic thrust. The craft just “slides” through altered spacetime, with drag reduced to almost nothing by the plasma sheath. That’s why UAP can go from still-hovering to hypersonic instantly, make sharp-angle turns, and not leave a sonic boom.

Why THz specifically? It’s the sweet spot: high enough frequency to mess with matter and fields at a quantum level, but low enough we can actually produce it. It’s not the engine, but the control knob for the field bubble.

Mainstream science says “nope” — but if the sightings are real, THz is exactly the kind of weird-but-plausible tool you’d expect behind the curtain.
Anonymous No.939297467 >>939297853
>>939279974 (OP)
There is literally no evidence that even suggests that we aren't alone in the universe
Anonymous No.939297526 >>939297853
there is absolutely 0 evidence for NHI or aliems
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939297853 >>939298828
>>939297467
>>939297526
Both of these statements are factually wrong, and hinge on a very narrow (and misleading) definition of “evidence.”

Astronomical Evidence – The universe is filled with billions of potentially habitable worlds. Exoplanet surveys (Kepler, TESS, JWST) have already confirmed Earth-like planets in habitable zones. While this is not proof of aliens, it is direct evidence that conditions suitable for life are common.

Technosignature Searches – Radio SETI and optical SETI have detected unexplained narrowband signals (e.g. the “Wow!” signal, Breakthrough Listen anomalies). These are not confirmed extraterrestrial transmissions, but they are empirical anomalies consistent with the possibility of technology.

Biosignatures – Venusian phosphine (2020) and methane spikes on Mars are disputed, but they are observational evidence that cannot yet be fully explained by known processes.

Military Encounters (Multi-Sensor, Multi-Observer) – The 2004 Nimitz “Tic Tac,” the 2015 Gimbal, the 2019 Omaha swarm, and others involve converging radar, infrared, and eyewitness data. These are not “aliens proven,” but they are well-documented anomalies that cannot be dismissed as zero evidence.

Historical/Archaeological Enigmas – Unexplained engineering feats (e.g. megalithic stonework) are often overstated by fringe theorists, but they remain open questions in material culture studies. They are at least suggestive that human (or other) intelligence has capabilities we don’t yet fully understand.

Conclusion: Saying “there is literally zero evidence” is not scientifically accurate. There is no confirmed proof of non-human intelligence — but there is a growing body of empirical anomalies, astrophysical data, and converging observations that strongly suggest the question remains open.

In science, absence of proof ≠ proof of absence.
Anonymous No.939298828 >>939299373
>>939297853

>Military Encounters
it doesnt mean aliens or NHI, you just make that connection because you want too

if america had new propulsion tech, the perfect place to test it would be their own military airspace
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939299373
>>939298828
You’re right that unusual military encounters don’t automatically prove extraterrestrial or non-human intelligence. That said, the issue isn’t that we’re “wanting to believe”—it’s that certain observed behaviors defy known physics and human technology, even assuming highly classified programs. The 2004 Nimitz “Tic Tac” and 2015 Gimbal incidents weren’t just visual sightings—they involved multi-sensor corroboration: radar, infrared, and visual confirmation, recorded simultaneously by multiple trained operators. The objects exhibited sudden acceleration, hypersonic speeds without sonic booms, and instantaneous stops, none of which align with known U.S. or foreign propulsion capabilities, even top-secret ones.

Testing experimental aircraft over restricted airspace is standard—but these objects were tracked over open ocean, sometimes observed by multiple Navy ships and aircraft simultaneously, often outside normal testing corridors. The precision, endurance, and repeated anomalous behavior challenge the idea that these are simply terrestrial prototypes.

Philosophically, it’s about inference to the best explanation: when phenomena consistently exceed known human capabilities, we must consider all plausible explanations, including advanced non-human technologies or intelligences. That doesn’t mean declaring aliens as fact, only that we cannot dismiss the data purely because it conflicts with expectations. In science, ignoring anomalies is what stalls understanding; investigating them is how progress is made.

So yes—military encounters could be human tech—but the observed performance currently cannot be fully explained by any verified terrestrial technology, making alternative hypotheses reasonable and worthy of inquiry.
Anonymous No.939301641 >>939307494
bamp a roony
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939303339
Bump
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Bump
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939307494
>>939301641
<3
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939309884
I'll be back at it asap

Good night, God bless, sweet dreams
Anonymous No.939311086 >>939311786
>>939279974 (OP)
ifthe universe is really infinite, theres not only alien but also another guy on a computer whos writing the same message in the same thread, its the playing cards theory (i can develop it if someone is intrested)
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939311786 >>939312932
>>939311086
I'm interested. But I won't be back for a few hours at least. Spamming my threads on every half decent thread until I feel satisfied.
Anonymous No.939312932 >>939316927
>>939311786

imagine a bunch of friends playing poker. they play day and night, night and days for years. they'll end by playing the exact same games again and again because the rules of the poker are the same and the amount of different cards is limited (54 cards)
now replace the players with gods or entropy (depending if you're faithful or not), the rules of poker with the rules of universe, cards with atoms and with enough material you'll get your 2 exact ppl in front of the exactly same kind of computer but with so much distance between them your brain cant even figure it
Anonymous No.939313964 >>939316942
bump
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939316927
>>939312932
I guess within infinite complexity there can exist infinite repetition...

I'm stuck on the tenth dimension.

https://youtu.be/p4Gotl9vRGs?si=vhnBt6PfLbnMLlzK
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity No.939316942
>>939313964
Thank you