Thread 942327856

>I will save my dying, stressed out, pregnant wife from death by using space magic to choke my dying, stressed out, pregnant wife on an unstable, volcanic planet
What the FUCK was this man’s problem?

y-you too...

>>942327856 (OP)
He listened. And that's what no one did.

>>942327856 (OP)
Unironically autistic

>>942327856 (OP)
Probably paranoia.
Nobody was really on his side at this point and he knew he can't trust Sidious either.
Post your favourite Star Wars games.

He was utterly consumed by rage/hatred/paranoia. You don't care about the consequences in those moments, you just want others to suffer.
>>942327860
Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor
Lego The Complete Saga
ROTS PS2/Xbox
Battlefront 1/2 on PS2

>>942327860
I'll be completely honest here
I never managed to get into KotOR

>>942327856 (OP)
It works on paper.

>>942327856 (OP)
I don't know why Natalie Portman is considered a good actor, she practically sleptwalk her way through the prequels.

>>942327856 (OP)
All he had to do was not be an unhinged psychopath. Cant be that hard?

>>942327856 (OP)
he was a hothead

>>942327864
they aren't the only movies she's been in?

>>942327866
he didn't jump so good

>>942327867
She's a poor fit in many of her other roles as well.

>>942327856 (OP)
This is nowhere as bad as Palpatine
>I got this unhinged retard whom I successfully manipulated into betraying and murdering literally everyone he knows
>Why should I do with him now, knowing that he's capable of such betrayal?
>Should I just get rid of him, like everyone always does with traitors?
>Or perhaps, I should keep him away from my person and put some kill switches on him, and still make some use of him?
>No, I think I'll make him my right hand instead and put him into a permanent position where he would be able to backstab me just like he backstabbed everyone else, if he would feel like it one day
>I'm a genius manipulator who deceived everyone btw

>>942327864
We all wanna fuck her thats why.

I still can't get over how fucking retarded Padme's actual cause of death was. There's fuck tons of things that can go wrong with a chick's pregnancy that can ultimately kill her and George Lucas went with "she died from a broken heart" aka "she was so sad she died from being too sad". What was that fucking retard thinking?

>>942327872
You strike me as a fan of 'The Professional', anon. Very based.

>>942327871
He fully expected to have Vader kill him and take over later. That is literally how every sith "surpasses" their master.

>>942327871
He was stringing Anakin along with the whole “I know the secret to saving your wife”. Its implied in the ROTS novel that Palpatine implanted the nightmares that helped kickstart the movies events. Even then he probably would have enough to get Anakin to his side with two simple things: the Jedi hated him and would never see him as a peer AND the Jedi were growing distrustful of Palpatine who Anakin venerates.

>>942327856 (OP)
The vast majority of the clone wars was likely fought on major sleep deprivation and well past the point of complete burnout.
While one can take the canon of the clone wars to just be bad writing, there is some merit to just assuming that every single participant is cognitively deficient when it comes to reasoning, empathy or forming memories even whilst actively using the force to fake their way through seeming mostly present.

>>942327870
Burning in magma does a number on you

>>942327856 (OP)

Intellect or even basic critical thought was never one of Anakin's strong suits. Or else he would have realized that Palpatine was playing him like a fiddle and killed him on the spot.

I don't care about named character Quirkchungus and his Marvel movie drama
I wish Star Wars was more about the unnamed grunts in cool armor

>>942327856 (OP)
At that point in the movie Anakin was pretty much gone, he was fully insane.
If anything its really lucky Anakin could hold back and stop choking her to not kill her
A moment of clarity on his insanity.

Why did Dindu not bring Anakin along?

He's the best Jedi and would have mogged Sheev without the other 3 jobbers

>>942327860
Dark Forces because I like boomer shooters and Empire at War for the space battles

>>942327864
She's been good eye candy since Leon the Professional
>>942327874
Kinonino

>>942327856 (OP)
Uh videogames? Could've used a game screenshot?

>>942327879
Well he did tell Mace that he's a Sith Lord, but he was conflicted if it was the right choice considering Padme.
That's why he went back to stop him.

>>942327856 (OP)
Dork Force makes you retarded. Literally

Anakin is not demonstrated to be an emotionally and mentally stable individual.

>>942327856 (OP)
you have never lost your temper at an uppity bitch and smacked that ho?

>>942327856 (OP)
So who was in the right?

>>942327856 (OP)
gigaragetarded insecure paranoid and mentally unstable, thought his wife was cheating on him and went apeshit, killed her, immediately regretted it.
Anger is one hell of a drug.

>>942327870
Pretty sure it was 50 years since the end of the clone wars and the fall of the empire, so he's fairly old at this point.

>>942327892
Anon, I...

>>942327892
ehh nope only 23 years passed since RotS

>>942327856 (OP)
That man's name? Albert Einstein.

>>942327856 (OP)
Sand

>>942327874
>didn't fuck her
>gave all his money to her
>died for her
unironically cucked

I think Anakin is a fantastic character and I get mad and sad when people write him off because muh lucas wooden dialogue. He is far more human than anyone wants to give him credit for.

>>942327898
The problem is, nobody asked for a "relatable teenager" when they went to see a movie about Darth Fucking Vader.

>>942327899
The movie is about anakin not darth vader

>>942327899
>blows up a planet
>totally wouldn't kill women and children

>>942327899
>people wanted to soiface at the le epic poggerino darth vader badass edgelord wish fulfillment and not think about anything
I'm well aware.
The fucking irony that Lucas said he was actively avoiding that pressure from the suits during the prequels only for Rogue 1 to come out and do that exact thing while people lost their minds in the last 2 minutes pogfacing.
Hitler's lapdog is not supposed to be someone to look up to.

she died because she "lost the will to live" lmao

>>942327899
People wanted a relatable adult not a child, then a mentally unstable teenager and finally a 21 year old manchild.

>>942327902
Sure, but we never really saw what made him special; from the Force perspective and his capabilities as Hitler's lapdog. Episode 1 should've never existed and the prequel should've completely focused on the Clone Wars like the Genndy cartoons did

>>942327862
Just watch the movie someone made on youtube where he voice acts his character

>>942327902
>Hitler's lapdog is not supposed to be someone to look up to
Yeah this is something that didn't make much sense
The prequels try their darnest to give Anakin all the good reasons to become a genocidical tyrant

>>942327904
because relatable adults destroy planets

>>942327906
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYKtY4fZon8&list=PL9opFDYHnevtCSYyKtD3y3HHfSaFdxqeq&index=1

>>942327902
I would've preferred he went evil for compelling reasons that actually make sense, and not because he was just that fucking horny and dark mojo made him deranged, and then it was too late to pull out.

>>942327910
Wanting to save your wife and children isn't a good enough reason?

>>942327879
>Intellect or even basic critical thought was never one of Anakin's strong suits.
Clearly you haven't read his thesis.

>>942327886
I mean, nigga could've at least asked for a proof. Make Palpy revive a potted plant or something. It probably won't work on full grown, adult human but it's something

>>942327907
His emotional support system is a bunch of emotionally detached monks who he can't relate to, which lets him get groomed by palps. That part is not on him but he is also given several attempts to take a step back and cool his jets, and he is unable to do it. Past a certain point, it's on him as well.
That's what makes it a tragedy.

>>942327910
>Raised by a religious order that clearly hates and fears him
>Even his father-brother-mentor fails to be completely straight with him when he needs to be
>Only consistently friendly face in his life is an evil wizard in disguise
I think it's compelling enough, just delivered poorly.

>>942327870
out of 10!

>>942327913
At what point did Anakin have time to ask Palpatine to prove it? After finding out he was a Sith Lord, he immediately went to have him arrested. He likely would have demanded Palpatine prove it, but the next time he sees Palpatine, he's facing execution and Anakin doesn't have the luxury of waiting for proof. He has to act in that moment or lose that possibility forever.

>>942327856 (OP)
She was a good friend.

Anakin became evil because he was unable to let go of attachments

Then Luke faces the same issues and only says "no" to turning to the dark side

>>942327910
The whole set up makes sense
The Jedi order had very obvious flaws which they refused to address
The Republic is a very corrupt institution that allows things like slavery and drug trafficking across the galaxy
Qui Gon dies before he gets the chance to become a good role model to Anakin
Obi Wan is too narrow minded
Padme is hot

>>942327856 (OP)
the dark side turns people into cartoon villains because evil space magic, the second he gave in he was longer himself

>>942327856 (OP)
Which video game is this?

>>942327862
they can be slow to start but they're fun enough once you get into the game proper, they're also very easy compared to other CRPGs.

>>942327865
>Can't be that hard?
This is Skywalker we're talking about. It would be easier to teach a rancor to read than it would to get him to not be an unhinged psychopath.

>>942327862
It's shit with predictable "twist". Take the Dark Forces pill

>>942327917
Yeah if you really think about it the amount of stress and time compressed into the middle acts events of ROTS is crazy. All at the same time the Jedi is moving against the chancellor, Obi-Wan is engaged with Grievous and the other Seperatists escaped, Anakin is being asked to sacrifice another loved one for people who dont even care for his existence. And Jedi are empaths who can sense and read emotions and minds across worlds. On top of that Anakin is a veteran forced to command legions of troops in ground assaults at 21.

>>942327876
A lot of people don't get that Palpatine won the moment the clone wars started. Even if he hadn't played it all perfectly and got killed in the process the jedi had mostly fallen and the only solution they could see was becoming a theocratic dictatorial system. Windu was attempting to arrest the legally elected chancellor and the Jedi counsel would have had to take over the senate to maintain order. It was going to end in fascism either way.

>>942327919
Luke didn't face the same issue and had no attachments which are that strong. Defeating the siths was his main motivation. How would they leverage on it, promise him to kill themselves if he goes to the dark side?

>>942327912
That's exactly why we know he's an idiot. Kenobi's thesis mogs it in every way.

>>942327898
the prequels in general are a good idea executed poorly. The later portion of The Clone Wars do alot in making me like that era of star wars more, shame Filoni is a hack now

>>942327882
Did you miss the part where Anakin cut off his hand three minutes after arriving?

>>942327856 (OP)
It's almost like the prequels were poorly written or something. And no, the sequels existing doesn't vindicate them.

>>942327928
According to George Lucas, the equivalent in VI is when the Emperor’s trying to get Luke to kill his dad so he can save his sister

>>942327932
>Implying that originals are good
lol

>Be evil and destroy everything
>Kill everyone close to you
>Just constantly backstab people who help you by killing them too
>Go out of your way to kill more
>Kill your own soldiers
>Kill that ladybug minding its own business
>Have a lover
>Kill her too
>You will rule the entire galaxy
>After killing everyone so you have nothing to rule
Is this how Star Wars became the most influential and compelling space opera of all time? The Sith are just like that? Well at least it must be nice for roleplaying a schizo cunt.

>>942327856 (OP)
He's fucking falling apart mentally. He's never had good mental health and you wouldn't either if you were a slave watching your mom slurp on Watto cock. When you finally are able to help your mom turns out the jew who used to own you sold your mom to a tribe of space niggers in the desert, who raped her to death. You break the ideals you've been serving, that you swore would let you save your mom. The one ray of sunshine in your life is a woman your ideals say you shouldn't care for. Some dick head space wizard cuts off your arm, and a different dick head wizard starts filling your head with nightmares of the woman you care for dying with your unborn child.
Then you get denied a promotion at work despite working harder than everyone else. Then you find the guy who blocked your promotion breaking the ideals trying to kill the only guy who's told you that you aren't a piece of shit for having an interest in a wife. You defend your friend only to then find out he's an evil space wizard and the guy who blocked your promotion was right. Realizing you've just betrayed everything you spent your life on, you careen down the slippery slope and slaughter a bunch of kids because at this point all that matters is you get your wife. Then you end the war that has been ripping apart the galaxy only for your wife to show up, everything finally feels like it makes sense, then out comes the only guy left who can tell you that having a wife is wrong, and your wife is on his side.
Anakin is like 40 miles past his breaking point when he chokes Padme.

Star Wars is for little children.

>>942327882
>I sense a great deal of confusion in you young Skywalker. there is much fear that clouds your judgement
You are like my mom who falls asleep during movies and then starts asking inane questions when she wakes up.

>>942327890
>AHHH! I'M GONNA KILL EVERYONE I'VE EVER KNOWN FOR MY NEW EMPIRE! FUCK MY OBNOXIOUS BITCH WIFE AND FUCK YOU FOR BEING AGAINST THIS!
Or
>Anakin for the love of the force just chill the fuck out.

Be honest /v/, you'd come away with her, help her raise her child, leave everything behind while you still can

>>942327935
>Is this how Star Wars became the most influential and compelling space opera of all time?
No, it was by telling a very simple "young knight slays the dark wizard" story but in space. Every time the franchise has stepped away from this premise it was for the worse.

>>942327882
Because he knew it would lead to exactly what happened. Anakin wasn't willing to kill Sheev even if Sheev fought to the death with the others.
Imagine being a cop and you are told to arrest this guy. Your partner for the arrest is a man who is highly sympathetic to the guy you are arresting and you know that he will not kill him even if that guy is killing you and he wont accept you using lethal force against the guy that might be trying to kill you. 100% liability.

>>942327940
naw fuck that she's trying to lead me away from being a badass space wizard samurai, I'd fuck her then use the force to ensure she never gets pregnant so she can't use that to tie me down

>>942327940
How do you move past the fact you slaughterd dozens of children and betrayed everyone you ever met? Or that if you flee your master who can sense your presence billions of light years away will send armies after you? Anakin at this point was fucked. Nothing could help him.

>>942327919
Anakin was never properly taught how to let go. All he ever learned is that he's never supposed to become attached in the first place. Luke learned to let go because of all the attachments he formed over his life that he was forced to let go of.

>>942327940
Nah. If I was in that universe my wife would 100% be some fucking weird alien. The closest to human I'm going is Twilek.

>>942327940
>Menacingly poses at you and subconsciously confirms your fears about your wife's disloyalty
There was really no where for the situation to resolve besides a death duel after his moment

>>942327919
Palpatine didn't seem to have much to entice Luke. Like, the entirety of their meeting to me was:

>Hey, join the dark side
>No
>I'm gonna kill your friends
>I don't want that
>Good, good, I can sense you wanna fucking kill me now
>Well duh
>Try it faggot
>Ok
This was Palpatine's plan?

>>942327882
Windu knew how close Anakin was to Palpatine
In fact the smartest choice Mace made in the entire prequels was order Ankin to stay put

>>942327898
the real problem is hayden christianson cant really do rage very well

then suddenly he has to scream out I HATE YOU as loud as he can

>>942327935
>the Sith are just like that?
yes

>>942327932
The writing itself is solid. Its the pacing and the acting that hamstrings them.

>>942327864
It's a word that starts with J

>>942327949
It's not like Palpatine gains a lot by turning Luke to the Dark Side. If he pops on over, great. If he doesn't, so what? Palpatine is the functionally invincible Emperor of the Galaxy. Having or not having Luke is pretty much irrelevant.
Didn't expect to get shanked by his bodyguard with his guard down though.

>>942327949
Luke was hoping on turning his father. If this happened they could both turn on Palpatine. If that backfired he was hoping the rebellion blew up the DS2 regardless of him being inside or not because then the war ends. When this wasnt an option Palpatine played on the fact that he had zero command of the situation and egged him on.

>>942327935
You don't have to be a cartoon villain to use the dark side, but your power in the dark side is directly proportional to how much of a deranged psychopath you are, so Sith are naturally selected to be as evil as possible. You either have to become more evil to keep up, or you'll get killed and replaced by someone else who will.

>>942327946
If I was a Jedi lord knows I'd seduce a kaminoan lady and impregnate her with at least 5 human kaminoan hybrids that she would make sure were born with a high midichlorian count.
>The jedi council would hunt you down.
My love for my morally dubious long necked wife will empower me.
>Humans and Kaminoans aren't compatible.
Kaminoans are the best genetic engineers in the galaxy, she will find a way.

>>942327910
He doesn't want to lose anyone else and he knows he has the power to stop it, if only those jedi would stop getting in the way and let him use his powers to their fullest. He says it in AotC "Obiwan is holding me back!". He sees the Jedi as a hindrance him doing good things. He could kill all the bad guys, save his wife and child, bring peace to the galaxy, free all the slaves and end corruption. But only if the Jedi stopped moral grandstanding and let him get shit done rather than talk about it.

>>942327957
Unless you're the light side sith warrior. But he might just coast by on the seething contempt he feels at the incompetence of every sith lord he meets.

>Obi-Wan tells Anakin that his new mission is to spy on the Chancellor for the Jedi Council
>Anakin claims this is treason
>Obi-Wan says it's not treason because they are loyal to the Republic, not the Chancellor
>Anakin claims Obi-Wan is asking him to break the Jedi Code
>rather than claim that it doesn't break the code, Obi-Wan simply says it's the Council asking him to do it
big think, Jedi hypocrites

>>942327941
And this is why Star Wars is a one and done story with the OG trilogy. The reality is that its universe is a very bland two dimensional good vs evil setting and anytime anyone tries to go outside of the Jedi/Sith dynamic, people immediately say "b-but wheres muh lightsabers?" It's why KOTOR2 was highly praised, because it ultimately just deconstructed how retarded the universe functions while also including all force shit.
Not to mention that the OG Trilogy already blew its load on massive stakes from the start with the death star. If you go below this type of threat level, then it doesn't invoke hype from the audience.

>>942327905
The clone wars were pointless in the grand scheme of Anakins fall to the darkside. Anakin was thriving during the clone wars. He had it all. A wife, a crew of men that would die for him, a galaxy of adventure where he can solve problems with a sword and the force. He loved it! Only once they were coming to an end did he have troubles that needed to be addressed.

>>942327940
I wouldn't be in that situation to begin with. I'd probably have flunked out of the Jedi order and been stuck doing mission work in some ass end corner of the galaxy while all of this was going down. That's if I ever got into the order to begin with.

>>942327856 (OP)
He was retarded on purpose for drama.

>>942327953
>Padme: Anakin, I can't fall in love and have sex with you because I am a senator
This isn't good writing. It's one thing to put this restriction on a weird ass cult of space monks, but also for politicians is fucking stupid. There's lot of bad writing in the prequels. However on paper, many of the elements could work, it was just that George at this point had nobody to pull him aside and untangle all of his zany ideas for something cohesive.

>>942327960
>Unless you're the light side sith warrior.
That's like a square circle. The fundamental basis of being a sith is using the dark side. Either you're doing bad things and using your emotions (optionally for the greater good) or you're not. If you try to stay light side while also working with the sith, you're either going to turn to the dark side or lose all your force powers.

>>942327966
You don't see how a public figure having a scandalous relationship with a younger celibate space monk might cause issues for her career?

>>942327966
I don't see how that's bad writing? She's saying that both of them have roles higher than themselves, so getting into a scandalous relationship would affect more than just them.

>>942327870
lmao the eyebrows were so fucking retarded

>>942327966
imagine a prime minister getting in a relationship with a catholic priest
that's a media shitstorm on the way

>>942327967
You can do that in swtor.

>>942327966
>Padme: Anakin, I can't fall in love and have sex with you because I am a senator
Would've been bad PR and maybe even a crime depending on the republic's laws. It'd be like Bill Clinton and Monica.

>>942327973
>It'd be like Bill Clinton and Monica.
Bill Clinton didn't get impeached for having Monica under his desk. He got impeached because he outright lied when testifying.

>>942327972
Doesn't that game absolutely butcher the writing from the prior two games?

>>942327961
The Prequels go out of their way to show that the Jedi were making multiple missteps on the path to their annihilation.

>>942327944

idk, ask this guy

>>942327911
Save them from what? The movies do a shit job at justifying Anakin's paranoia or what he does to solve the problem. He spends more time whining about not being given titles and respect than he does worrying about his family.

>>942327915
>throws constant bitchfits, breaks rules and openly disrespects his mentors
>they endlessly tolerate his outbursts, encourage him and give him more influence instead of kicking him in the streets
>we're supposed to not laugh at his delusional baby ranting about being unfairly treated

>>942327940
Why? With all the power I have we wouldn't have to hide anymore. I'm more powerful than the Chancellor, I can over throw him. Then the two of us can rule the galaxy together, make things the way we want them to be.

>>942327974
Why did he lie about it? Could the scandalous nature of the relationship have been embarrassing for all involved even if not being criminal?

>>942327974
And you think Padme wouldn't lie to protect Anakin? She didn't want to be in relationship because she didn't want to be forced to tell those kind of lies.

>>942327856 (OP)
I can't breeve....

>>942327966
Padme helps to steward and govern billions of people in a star system. She is constantly being opposed by political enemies. She is constantly being threatened, sometimes assassins get pretty fucking close. Its a valid issue to bring up. Its a full time commitment that trillions of people look to her towards as a pragmatic voice of intellectual wisdom.

>>942327978
From... death?
The movie shows this? Anakin repeatedly talks about how he's relating these visions of Padme to his visions of his (dead) mom.

>>942327979
I don't believe what I'm hearing...
Jan-I Tor was right: You've changed...

>>942327978
>>throws constant bitchfits, breaks rules and openly disrespects his mentors
Because the masters pawned him off on Obi-Wan entirely. They didn't even want to take him in to begin with.
>they endlessly tolerate his outbursts, encourage him and give him more influence instead of kicking him in the streets
They don't tolerate or give him shit. They wield Anakin like a blunt instrument where they can and then pikachuface when the neglected child acts in the only way he's knows - impulsively and recklessly.
Instead of trying to reaffirm the emotionally deafened values of the Jedi in him, they hand Anakin an empty title to try and placate his ego, which backfires immensely. Not to mention they pointedly decided to leave his mother enslaved instead of at the very least setting her up on some cushy planet doing agriculture or something.
The council are like a bunch of teenage mothers who piss and shit when their iPad baby grows up to be petulant.

>>942327856 (OP)
>What the FUCK was this man’s problem?
Roid rage, dark side edition. Also massive insecurity regarding obi-wan stealing his woman.
Honestly the whole plot was retarded because the whole dying Padmè angle required massive idiot ball juggling.
Lucas should have leant mostly on Palpatine's grooming, like most secondary works do nowadays to rationalize the events.

>>942327919
I will never get over with what happened with Luke in the sequels.

They turned away his wise, uber powerful space monk with his own Jedi Order characterization from the EU and decided him being a alien titty milk drinking hobo was better.

>>942327927
Good eye. Genuinely and unironically the prequels to me are much deeper and well written than I ever expected once you get what is actually being communicated in the big picture, if you dont project any preconceptions onto it. Its like a really good modern take of a greek tragedy, but not retarded, and has actual character writing, not character "action" if that makes sense and by "action" I dont mean modern bombasticism. In classic greek tragedies, the heroes are often more simple forces or wills, that exist just to overcome tribulations, and tragedies nothing else. Anakin is a victim, from childhood to adulthood caught inbetween two sides, and never really fit either. Thats human, thats not just "will".

Who cares about your pitiful magical warriors wielding light dildos? All the kino comes from Empire vs Rebels and Republic vs CIS conflicts

>>942327984
He sees some dreams. Whoa. Which the movie forgets about until the end. A competent writer would maintain tension through the whole story and give hints to where the danger could be coming from and maybe mislead the audience to pull a twist later. George Lucas can't do that. The movie is an unintentional comedy.

>>942327978
>they endlessly tolerate his outbursts
If you offer a child you're responsible for no correction, you are effectively responsible for his misbehaviour, since you're actively reinforcing it.

>>942327986
Nice fanfiction, fag. Too bad none of that actually happened the way you spin it.

>>942327991
Be honest, anon. Are you retarded?

>>942327980
>Why did he lie about it?
Because when were the Clintons ever perceived as honest and genuine? Look at what he married...
Also, didn't effect his family dynasty. His family were still made out of major power brokers in the Democrat party. His wife became senator and his VP only lost by a few hundred votes in Florida. Had he not lied and got impeached, Gore would've probably snagged the election.

>>942327992
That's true, and could be understandable, if we weren't talking about an order that's been raising space magic knights for thousands of years and suddenly can't do any of it right.

>>942327947
I really wish Lucas would have left in that scene where chancellor Palpatine is talking to Anakin and planting seeds of doubt in his mind about Padme. It makes that whole part on Mustafar make a lot more sense if Anakin is paranoid that she's been cheating on him.

>>942327994
Yes. I'm retarded.

>>942327994
So we've moved to personal insults now? Cool. Please, kindly kill yourself, idiot

>>942327986
>Not to mention they pointedly decided to leave his mother enslaved instead of at the very least setting her up on some cushy planet doing agriculture or something.
The Jedi's entire problem with Anakin to begin with is his attachment to his mother. Their prime mission is teaching him that she can't be any more important to him than any other living being. For as retarded and unprepared to deal with a Padawan with attachment issues as the Jedi are, they can't start out his training by giving his mother special treatment. That would run entirely contrary to what they are trying to teach him.
Not that "forget her, sucka, whatever happens happens" ends up working in any way whatsoever. But that's why the Jedi died and were replaced by a Luke Skywalker Order that wasn't as fucktarded.

>>942327989
>Genuinely and unironically the prequels to me are much deeper and well written than I ever expected once you get what is actually being communicated in the big picture
I feel like 99% of the prequels' depth is either accidental or "informed" by non movie works.
The whole saga is basically the tragedy of darth vader, but it just doesn't feel like it was Lucas's choice at any point.

>>942327988
Luke would have lost his wife anyway even if it had been a sequel written by Lucas because Lucas would never have agreed to make the Thrawn trilogy canon.

What Disney could have done was set the whole thing one or two centuries after Episode 6, with Luke surviving thanks to the Force, and everything that happened in the EU is simply "skipped." But here comes JJ who is the biggest idiot in the history of cinema.

>>942327988
the big issue, like everything in TLJ, is that nothing happens and then they die.

>>942327856 (OP)
You lack context bro

>>942327947
>There was really no where for the situation to resolve besides a death duel after his moment

True. There's a lot of debate over what would have happened if Anakin had defeated Obi-Wan, although I think that outcome is kinda predictable (Anakin coups Palpatine, is a massive retard who has no idea how to govern, and is in turn couped himself within a year).

What really interests me is what would have happened if Obi-Wan hadn't gotten on Padme's ship and she had some slim chance of talking him down.

>>942327856 (OP)
This scene was originally supposed to be a bit darker as Anakin was supposed to lift her in the air while force choking her. He was also more distrusting of her and Obi-Wan as he was being led by Palpatine to believe that they were having an affair in an earlier unused draft, which would have made this scene make more sense.

>>942327947
Anakin tells Obi-Wan to fuck off several times. He would have let Obi-Wan leave if Obi-Wan chose to flee. He really didn't want to have to kill him, even when juiced on the Dark Side.

>>942327856 (OP)
He just chimped out and murdered a gorillian people so a little light choking seemed very mild, you have to keep your bitches from acting up

>>942327856 (OP)
His problem is that the Darkside is a parasite that feeds on anger and hate. Kria was right in wanting to kill the Force, the universe is better off without that stupid shit. The Darkside existing at all is proof that the Force as a concept isn't worth the potential good it can bring because sapient life is full of retards just waiting to be duped by evil.

>>942327856 (OP)
This all could've been avoided if Anakin was given the rank of Master

>>942327923
Yeah the slow start is what got me, the combat just didn't click, I couldn't even see its potential

>>942327996
Are you implying that the council's behaviour should be consider correct by virtue of their track record? Because as far as Lucas is concerned (in the EU there are a few clone wars era jedis who joined as young adults like Rahm Kota and even fucking Yoda himself), by that point the Jedi had not raised any kid who hadn't been brought to them as toddler at the oldest for a thousand years, so it's a track record of 0/1.
Anakin did not receive the kind of support he needed, and even in the inability to provide it, the jedi still massively fucked up in allowing him to fail upwards instead of chucking him into the exploracorps like every other kid in their care who actually had the gall of needing some parenting instead of being willing to grow up acting as faggot to their master.
The whole situation is an unbelievable shitshow. And when I say unbelievable I mean that it literally breaks suspension of disbelief. Palpatine having constant access to Anakin growing up is particularly fucking stupid, epstein levels of misbehaviour on the council's part.

>>942328010
I like Analkin but I don't agree with him
His killings of the younglings were too much

>>942328009
This, kill Force and turn SW into sci-fi

>>942327856 (OP)
people beat their wives all the time up until a few decades ago
it usually hurt the men emotionally than the women physically

>Dies of grief cause of dead anikin
>But she just had 2 children which should have been enough to keep her going
Terrible mother.

>>942328010
Most takes on Anakin make him absolutely intolerable as a character regardless of media, but pretending like he fumbled a golden situation rather than spending his whole life in a neverending shitshow surrounded almost exclusivelyby retards who failed him and one specific hypercompetent and hypermalicious cunt makes no sense.
He had cause to whine as much as he did. It's just that he whined about the wrong things. But then he was like 20 when ep3 happened, of course kids will be retarded.

>>942327870
Brezhnev, is that you comrade? Man, you don't look so good.

>>942328017
>Dies of grief
Depending on what you consider canon, she died of Sidious siphoning off her life force to keep Anakin alive while he got vadered up.

>>942328018
>no freedom as slave boy
>no freedom as cult boy
>no freedom as fascism man w bonus self hatred because of murdered wife
45 years of straight suffering.

>>942327864

If you posted her real name you'd figure out why pretty quick.

>>942327988
>decided him being a alien titty milk drinking hobo was better.
Because a Jewish bitch decided to ruin every white male hero she could.

>>942328020
Anakin being responsible for murdering his wife is thematically important. Making Palpatine responsible for her death would be so unbelievably retarded that I'm surprised Disney hasn't done it yet.

reminder that disney (((goy wars))) is not canon

>>942328024
Anakin believing it is narratively crucial, but Anakin actually doing it has very antithematic implications like
>>942328017
>Terrible mother.
And is also narratively weak, given the medical implications of any possible harm she might have suffered in context.
I personally prefer the Sidious leech version, which actually feels thematically strong for him, if not for the cannibalistic dark side melodrama.

>>942328010
I like Anakin as a character and understand what drove him to do what he did, but I don’t condone his actions.

He’s a Shakespearean anti-hero— Someone who is relatable and has good intentions, but they get driven off the rails by their own insecurities. IMO, he’s the best non-EU character in the series by far, and the 6 Lucas films are effectively his story.

>>942328015
Unfortunately her plan was inherently flawed because killing the Force would have wiped out all life in the setting since it's everywhere and in everything regardless of it it can be accessed or not.

>>942328026
Giving Palpatine the ability to drain and give life from across the galaxy would be a mistake.

>>942328026
>narratively weak

Dying of a broken heart is a real thing. Plus, characters dying because they’re sad is a thing that’s existed in melodramas for centuries. I think people forget that Star Wars is a melodrama, and is thus written like one. The force leech theory kind of robs the moment of that melodramatic flourish.

>>942327909
>mongol Revan

>>942328025
Mouse canon should be plundered for material just like disney wanted to do to the EU:
In my headcanon Ahsoka was indeed Fulcrum but actually died to Vader in the temple, fulfilling her promise not to leave
Some ships and weapons and droids are too sweet not to allow in
The new mandalorians can make sense as the logistic and/or bloodline segment of mando population that got subverted by the republic, but they should be to mandalorians what orn free taa is to twileks. Also Obi-wan's otp should be Siri Tachi, and Satine a short romance that ended in his complete disillusionment towards her idiotic ideas.

>>942328032
It’s dumb that Ashoka was Deus Ex Machina-ed out of that situation just because she was Filoni’s waifu. Her dying fighting Vader is a poetically perfect end for her.

>>942328020
Wait, really? Man, Star Wars is so dumb.

trust in Disney star wars x will be kino.

>>942328022
O-oh no.

>>942327930
>The Clone Wars

>>942328035
You're like an alchoholic dad promising to quit for 10th time.

>>942327930
>TCW

>>942328010
He quite frankly embodies the zeitgeist of many millennials and even zoomers, maybe even zoomers moreso

>>942328029
Across established force bonds involving comatose individuals? Eh. It doesn't really feel any stronger than what he could do to Mara Jade or what Dooku could do to Ventress.

>>942328030
True but no less unsatisfying for being such. The truth is that if the movies were all there was to Star Wars I'd have never become a fan of the franchise.

>>942328034
It's EU shit. I think it was from the comics? Maybe the official novel, but most likely the comics. Either way I'm not checking.
Up to you how wide you wanna cast the net of canon, really.

>>942328038
it can't be worse than vii viii ix.

apologize

>>942328041
I've heard the Force Leech theory before, but I've never seen it sourced to anything. Pretty sure it's solely in the fan realm of "man, wouldn't it be cool if Palpatine stole Padme's life force to keep Vader alive? That explains the broken heart thing!"

>>942328033
>when you introduce time travel to a series to save one character who only porn addicts liked

>>942327872
>Episode II Padme

Not bad, but I prefer III

>>942328040
Chadakin burned down a corrupted, stagnating Republic. He's very topical.

>became the oldest padawan in jedi history simply because the council believed you were the chosen one
>but your original master died in battle and your new master was his apprentice jedi knight and his first padawan to boot
>instead of a master-student relationship your master is practically your way older brother a decade your senior
>unlike most force sensitives being taken in as infants or preschool children you're stuck with the little kiddos from day 1; imagine going to nursery school as a 6th grader
>since you're also the chosen one a ton was expected from you and failure isn't an option
>like with all educational institutions there will always be bullying and jealousy involved especially among fellow trainees/padawans
>like regular teenagers and young adults there is also the rebellious phase that masters have to deal with, since anakin was canonically ostracized by his peers (but not by older jedi) in the temple out of jealousy his rebellious phase involved dressing up as a dark side user with black robes; it's like going to highschool dressed like a school shooter

>>942328040
Zoomers are the people who grew up with the Prequels as kids, so this was likely by design. Luke is written to be relatable to Gen X kids, and Anakin is written to be relatable to Gen Z kids.

In the case of Gen X, the relatability is “my stable, small town life is boring and I want something more exciting”, and in Gen Z’s case it’s “I’m tired of people depriving me of opportunities and I just want a stable life.”

>>942328048
and that's why Anakin turned, so he could kill younglings

>>942328046
As someone who’s had a pregnancy fetish since I was young, Padme in III did things to me as a kid.

I could totally understand that why Anakin was willing to kill for his cute pregnant wife. I probably would do the same in his shoes.

>>942328044
>I've never seen it sourced to anything
I distinctly remember seeing comic panels of it.
Could there be fanmade comics of comparable quality to actually published stuff for me to get tricked by?
Actually considering how shit the art is in the official comics that's actually not improbable at all.

>>942328049
If you were born in 1989 you grew up with the prequels as a kid. TPM came out in 1999 and the other movies when this hypothetical person is 16. Its not just Gen Z and I dont know why /tv/ parrots this meme.

>>942327856 (OP)
She brought Obi-wan to kill him. She was a little out of order herself.

Why did KOTOR2 pseuds push so hard that Lucas was some kind of dope who portrayed the Jedi to be perfect and flawless when the WHOLE Prequel trilogy bent over backwards to show they are corrupt and aloof and George has made numerous unambiguous statements about their pride and arrogance undoing them and how they had failed long before Order 66?

>>942328032
Ahsoka shouldn't exist an any sort of canon, head or otherwise.

>>942328049
No, the Prequels were millennial movies, zoomers were tiny babbies at the time

>>942327856 (OP)
He went beast mode

>>942328057
This

>>942328052
The only somewhat comparable thing that I'm aware of is that in one of the comics, Vader has a vision of his greatest fears, one of which being that Palpatine was responsible for his conception through the Force. Which caused many people to believe that Disney canon now confirms that Palpatine is Anakin's father (though again, this comic portrays Anakin's fears, not reality).

>>942328049
The PT were for millennials and maybe a few older zoomers.
Core zoomers grew up with TCW and other Filonislop.

>>942327892
>Pretty sure it was 50 years since the end of the clone wars
are you retarded? Luke and Leia born right at the end of the clone wars. How old are they in the first movie?

>>942328053
>>942328057
I was 7 when Revenge of the Sith came out, and it’s around that time when I first watched the OT and PT. The LEGO Star Wars games also got a lot of kids to seek out and watch the movies, which was also my gateway.

>>942328051
>As someone who’s had a pregnancy fetish since I was young, Padme in III did things to me as a kid.

Same

>I could totally understand that why Anakin was willing to kill for his cute pregnant wife. I probably would do the same in his shoes.

Eh, I would've just taken up her offer to go into hiding and start over.

>>942327892
>This is a 50 year old man

>>942328056
>pretty and cheerful young togruta practicing reverse grip shien shouldn't exist an any sort of canon
Absolutely disgusting opinion
Shaak Ti must not be the stereotypical togruta
Galen Marek must not be the only reverse grip user
Pretty and cheerful girls must be part of every work's cast for my personal enjoyment
She shouldn't have switched to twf though, that's gay

>>942328049
Wrong

Prequels were millennialslop and just like the OG boomers before them they defended the prequel trilogy

Zoomers grew up on Ahsokaslop and sequelslop, they pretty much don't care about Star Wars at all

>>942327872
AWOOGA

>>942328068
Fuck off, trash like you ruined SW

>>942328065
>Eh, I would've just taken up her offer to go into hiding and start over.
You're in good with your boss and are set for life. Your wife is just being hysterical because of the child murdering desu. She'll calm down and you can be good, high ranking members of the new order. No reason to run.

>>942328065
>Eh, I would've just taken up her offer to go into hiding and start over

I would have too. Anakin’s Mustafar freak out is something I’d never do. I’m genuine convinced that Padme loved Anakin enough that she’d actually be willing to reluctantly betray the Republic for him.

>>942327856 (OP)
>Video games
Fucking useless jannies.

>>942328055
Because Gorge keeps wanking off the Jedi whenever the pull him out for an interview nowadays

>>942328060
>one of which being that Palpatine was responsible for his conception through the Force
I vaguely remember something about Plagueis accidentally causing Anakin's conception through his fucking with midichlorians but I'm not sure if it was from an actual source or just people headcanoning shit up.
To be honest I never liked the no father bullshit, not like a lifelong slave like Shmi couldn't have had a train run on her

>>942327875
Are the sith a weirdo sadomasochist fetish death cult?

>>942327871
Palpy was a die-hard sith. He literally existed for nothing more than the religious euphoria of causing chaos and getting betrayed.

>>942328075
he does not, he has made many statements at length about how they fucked up

>>942328068
The only disgusting opinion here is acting like Anakin ever had a padawan. She adds nothing to the story and has next to no character.
You even categorize her a pretty face and a prop with a lightsaber instead of a character in the way you exemplify her. She's donut steel trash.

>>942328042
I envy your optimism. You do realize that Kathleen Kennedy is stil in charge?

>>942327899
Make your own movie, nigga

>>942328075
George admires the Jedi in theory, but it’s more Qui Gon-esque Jedi he supports.

He’s quite critical of the Council, but depicts them as the lesser evil to the Sith. I do question why he loves Yoda so much when Yoda was the Grandmaster of the corrupt Prequel-era council, and he also tried to gaslight Luke into killing Vader.

Anakin shivs Sheev and becomes the Emperor of the galaxy with Padme and two children on the way. Alright then what happens. How bad could things possibly get? Oh noo slavery will be stopped on the Outer Rim? The HORROR!

>>942327935
Siths are basically junkies

>>942328071
>trash like you ruined SW
Lmao

>>942328077
Nah, they're just bunch of heroin junkies. Any non-retard sith is a pothead

>>942328077
They are the ultimate end to might makes right philosophy. If the apprentice fails to back stab his master then he needs more time to cook or the master needs a new apprentice. If the master dies then the apprentice has proven stronger than the master and the master is no longer needed.

>>942328076
The Force did create Anakin in response to Plagueis and Palpatine experimenting with Midichlorians. As a result of Plagueis killing and bringing people back to life, the Force conceived then conceived Anakin on Tatooine with the intention that one day he would destroy the two who were unnaturally fucking with nature. Confirmed in the EU in the Plagueis novel.
Dunno about Mouse Lore because I don't care about Mouse Lore except to mock it when possible.

>>942327864
Yes, I can't believe she didn't give a riveting performance delivering that incredible prequel George Lucas dialogue where her character falls in love with an 8 year old and grooms him.

How could any actress not make a meal of such a great part?

>>942328035
No way.
HOWEVER I am expecting good things from Starfighter because Shawn Levy (Stranger Things) is the director and Gosling is the lead actor. It's gonna be the best Star Wars movie in a long time.

>>942327862
Same. It looks clunky and boring as hell

>>942328080
>She adds nothing to the story and has next to no character.
That's on Filoni though. As a character she had potential, and the idea of Anakin having a padawan with multiple qualities that mirror his sith apprentice tickles me greatly.

>>942328086
Defend yo mary sue orange cheeks all you want, shitter

>>942327898
If you think Anakin Skywalker has a good "fall from grace" arc, you need to read more books and watch more films.

I'm surprised they had the restraint to not show earth by this point with how long this nonsense has been going on

>>942328084
Child murder aside, Anakin overthrowing Sheev would have lead to a happy ending. IMO, the real tragedy is that Anakin became Palpatine’s slave rather than going his own way.

>>942328093
>the idea of Anakin having a padawan with multiple qualities that mirror his sith apprentice tickles me greatly.
Shame about the absolute incongruity with the movies.

>>942328093
All potential, no substance.
Might as well have Anakin carry around a cardboard cutout and call it a character, because that's all she was.

>>942327922
Star Trek

>>942327870
Humpty Dumpty looking motherfucker

>>942328094
Rather than defend Ahsoka I was attacking the idea that there was ever a non coomer star wars setting for "people like me" to ruin when Lucas himself effectively founded the group of "people like me".

>>942328096
Filoni has them galaxy hopping now so the "in a galaxy far far away" no longer precludes the Mouse from going "omg it's Earth isn't that great guys?!"

>>942328090
Chloe Sevigny could

>>942328093
Starkiller was a much better character than Ahsoka ever was and Vader having a secret apprentice is more kino if Anakin never had a padawan.

>>942327898
The real issue is that there simply isnt enough screen time for all the ideas.

>>942328051
I cant blame him either honestly.

>>942328089
>Dunno about Mouse Lore because I don't care about Mouse Lore except to mock it when possible.
Speaking of Mouse Lore and Plagueis and lesbian space witches and people created by the Force...

>>942328057
I literally got ROTS for my birthday in 2006.
T. Born in 1999

>>942328081
>>942328042

Episode 3 has worse critics and viewers rating than episode 7, 8 and 9.

>>942328084
The same could be said of "what is the worst that could happen if the CIS won the clone wars?"
Dooku was a political idealist and clearly saw the rot within the republic. Once he betrayed Sheev and took over as prime minister or president of the CIS senate, or wherever he called himself, he would get to work of throwing out the bureaucrats and ending the banking clans influence over the value of the gelactic credit. He would probably be loved by the people, but he also wouldn't care about all the ants that need to crushed to enact his ideal government.

>>942327874
>every time Gary takes a bite out of his drugs
Never fails to make me kek

>>942328098
>Shame about the absolute incongruity with the movies.
Yes, the timeline barely makes sense for Anakin to have been knighted at all, nevermind adding a padawan of dubious age to the mix.
I have a hard time getting mad about that though, since my favourite novels use the same timeline compression trick to make the series last longer.
It is a fair complaint for others to express though.

>>942328090
Every other actor in the PT did a great job with the material (McDiarmid and McGregor being particular standouts, but even Hayden had some great moments and top-tier facial expressions).

Natalie is probably the most wooden, but I put that down to her being a pretty inexperienced actress at that point, with Leon The Professional being her only noteworthy role prior to TPM. Especially since I feel her acting gets better with each film in the trilogy.

>>942328069
Nuh uh

>>942327856 (OP)
Video games?

>>942328113
Lots of things would be cleaned up if Ahsoka Tano was Plo Koon's Padawan who would often be made to work with Anakin and Obi-Wan in her adventures.
But then daddy's favorite little girl wouldn't be the super speshul student of the Chosen One.

this single kino shot is the first time in the whole prequel trilogy you felt like this could have actually been Darth Vader before his injuries and he wore the mask. how the FUCK did George make him look anime but real life?

>>942328114
>even Hayden had some great moments and top-tier facial expressions
Yeah I never got why people hated him so much. He was ok and if anything the biggest issue is that he just looks physically puny.

>>942327930
Fil was always a hack

>>942328098
They had to jump through so many hoops to explain why Ashoka was never mentioned once in Revenge of the Sith.

The mirror aspect of her is cool, but there’s no way that a character as immature as Anakin would be given an apprentice.

>>942328090
The only good performance in her entire career is Black Swan and that role was such a freebie that almost any actress would've won an oscar for it

>>942328119
>>942328114
Hayden is pathetic in Episode 2 but KINO in Episode 3 I feel like it was intentional

>>942327856 (OP)
fear

>>942328111
>what is the worst that could happen if the CIS won the clone wars
Republic but more stratified, with corpos swinging their big dicks. I guess any sort of rebelion start would be pretty hard since lol gazillion droids garrisoned everywhere and less incentive from ayy lmaos to join

>>942328110
That says more about the critics than movies. Every retard was jacking off to Last Jedi at first (not me, thought it was absolute shit from the get go).

>>942328084
>Alright then what happens
He ends up just standing there in the middle of absolute system collapse, having no idea what to do just like everyone else who isn't Palpatine himself, since everything happens according to latter's machinations, to which he wasn't privy. If he attempts to do anything in power, he will likely get assassinated or couped within two weeks, because, surprise, being a dangerous shock trooper with psychic powers does not translate into being a dangerous political leader who can make it in times of great crisis and revolution. Being an unhinged retard lacking even 1/10 of Palpatine's intellect and 1/1000 of Palpatine's information required to make decision instead of Palpatine especially doesn't help.
He would only make it if he would just put his wife into a ship and fuck off as far from ongoing events as possible.

>>942328117
They really should have used the opportunity for a show to cover Anakin's upbringing in the order. That would have been a good place to introduce and develop Ahsoka as one of Anakin's padawan peers.

>>942328119
People blew things out of proportion for memes or sadism like bullying the kid who played Anakin or the guy who played Jar-Jar into near suicide.

VIDEO GAMES?

>>942328119
My biggest problem with Hayden was that George didn't give him more scenes with McGreggor. They had insane chemistry and pulled off the feeling of life long friends with almost zero effort. In comparison, Hayden and Portman in Episode II had negative chemistry. I believed Anakin loved her but Portman failed to sell me on her only holding back for optics. Her "don't look at me like that" felt too negative. Like she was afraid of him physically rather than afraid of being emotionally attached.

>>942328126
TFA had a disgustingly positive reception at release (given it was just a superior sfx remake of A New Hope with /diversity/) but TLJ was met with a polarized reception right from the start.

>>942328127
>>942328111
>>942328097
>>942328084

Sheev wanted Anakin to kill and replace him, he either trusted in his natural acumen as a leader or left behind some kind of instructions

>>942328130
Shadows of the Empire was bretty good.

>>942328117
I could see that working very well, instead of having a tcw reboot replacing the 2003 version you'd have a whole series focused on non movie jedis and their adventures.
But imagine trying to pitch a show about OCs to the suits, good luck with that. I don't even know how Filoni managed to get funding for the mandalorian.

>>942328119
>he just looks physically puny
He was cast because he’s tall as fuck like David Prowse, has a moody looking face and his voice matched the cadence of James Earl Jones.

>>942328118
I feel the entire back half of ROTS is filled with kino shots of Anakin looking like a tortured anti-hero. I have no idea why some people call George a bad director when his cinematography and shot composition is immaculate. I also feel like the CGI usage helps add a stylised layer that makes it feel more anime-esque.

>>942328132
With TFA it was definitely just normies going OMG NEW STARZ, and that was enough to fill the theaters up.

>>942328136
George, you absolute kino merchant.

>>942327899
>nobody asked for a "relatable teenager" when they went to see a movie about Darth Fucking Vader.

The whole point of Anakin was that he's a good guy who turns bad, so any work depicting his downfall is invariably going to be about a decent person with serious personality defects that they are ultimately unable to overcome.

>>942328119
Anakin was just kind of a bitch in general in AOTC which really soured audiences mood. Hayden acting was also kinda lousy in it (HE'S HOLDING ME BACK!!!)

He does become ludo in ROTS where he portrays a confident, but conflicted Anakin really well.

>>942328127
Anakin would have turned out like ever other military General turned dictator. The clone troopers had massive respect for Anakin(fuck Faloni and his brain chip bullshit) and him being boots on the ground with them meant they would die for him like how he put his life on the line for them. He would delegate most of the political crap to others and instead focus on aggressive military expansion into the outrim using the ending of slavery as his excuse for invasion.

>>942328136
>>942328139

All the lies about George as a director are being swept away in recent years, I was watching a video the other day where the guy directly quoted and sourced artists and designers like Doug Chiang about how creatively hands-off and liberating it was to work with George

>>942327873

Her death in the original draft of the script was a lot more violent. Lucas was afraid that the audiences might find it too disturbing and wound up massively overcorrecting.

>>942328136
>He was cast because he’s tall as fuck
>Height: 1.83 m
Bro what?
Also it's not just height, he looks very thin and boyish. It worked alright in 2 when he was supposed to be a gangly teen, but not for 3 as a grown ass man
His acting is actually the only thing propping up his image on mustafar, and even then >>942328118 still gives me Frodo vibes.

>>942327983
Except that in Episode 3 she is pregnant, does jack shit, no one cares about her or who is the father (probably everyone knows). Writing in Star Wars is just that - filler between action scenes.

>>942328131
I like how wispy and gentle her voice is, which I think adds a kind of romantic layer to their interactions. Probably because it involves the classic literary archetype of the brooding knight falling for the pure hearted maiden.

I personally think Anakin and Padme’s romance is way better and more believable than Han and Leia’s. Even as a kid, Han and Leia felt really forced to me, and a byproduct of the twist of Leia being Luke’s sister (which it 100% was). Then again, I always think tragic romances are more kino in fiction.

>>942328137
>the Mandalorian tries an episode with a holdout Confederate loyalist played by Doc Brown
>he starts to explain his ideology about freedom from the Republic and the Empire
>gets immediately stunned and defeated mid sentence by girl boss Bo Katan

>>942327856 (OP)
>We cut off the Empires reinforcements

>>942328141
I really can't blame Hayden for his acting, just looking at how the prequels were, it's pretty obvious that George just sucked at directing his actors. How are you going to make a line like ¨I hate sand¨ not sound gringy anyway?

>>942327862
It's uncslop

>>942328144
All of the behind the scenes stuff I've seen on the prequels shows George letting artist come up with cool shit on their own and then he looks and goes "yeah that's cool" or "That's a little bit... " He gave very weak prompts for artist to draw whatever they wanted and then just approved it or not on whether he thought it looked cool.

>disney bought star wars
>alright cool should we make a roadmap for what we want to make?
>lmao no just pump out as much and as fast as possible

>>942328145
Glad they changed that. It would have looked unintentionally goofy if Anakin just flung her like that.

>>942328144
All the criticism Lucas ever merited was about the need of being flanked by a disciplined editor while writing to keep his head from wandering into bullshit land.
Famously his actors rewrited a lot of the dialogue in the originals, I doubt christensen and portman had the balls to stand up to him though.
On a technical level he was always golden.

>>942328090
>and grooms him
Jealous?

>>942327860
Look, if everyone is kinda getting alienated by you, you might be doing something wrong. Even if you're right, it means that you're not communicating and just looking to be misunderstood

>>942327924
Meowth, that's right!

>>942328151
"I hate sand" is an overly memed on line. It has characterization significance (as he is contrasting Padme's cushy views on sand with his upbringing as a literal slave on a sand planet), is said in context, and makes sense coming from Episode II Anakin.
It also works and gets him his first kiss with the Khazar seductress.

The real cringe romance line of Star Wars is the "you're so beautiful" "only because I'm so in love with you" "no it's because I love you so much!" "so love has blinded you?" exchange in Episode III.

>>942328145
>Lucas was afraid that the audiences might find it too disturbing
cmon George

>>942328120
a bit yeah, but now he couldn't put out a decent episode of anything to save his life.

>>942328077
Once you are successful in life, what is the point of keeping your parents around?
>b-but I'm not successful
Because your culture values weakness.

>>942328151
I feel the sand line is perfectly fine if you don’t take it at face value and realise what it’s actually saying (which is “I have no fond memories of sand like you do, because I grew up as a slave on a desert planet”). It’s just clumsily phrased, but I don’t think it’s the worst line in cinema history like some people treat it as.

As for the whole directing actors thing. Lucas has admitted he’s not an actor’s director. His strengths as a director lie more in visuals, camera work and plot writing.

>>942328161
I think unsympathetic is a better word. Which is also strange because Anakin murders children.

George's kino shelf

>tfw old enough to remember Star Wars pre-prequels
>Mandalorians were still based on vagaries several Dark Horse comics
>ancient Sith lore was pretty much confined to old tabletop RPG sourcebooks and the Tales of the Jedi comics with Exar Kun, Naga Sadow, etc
>old EU was both extremely based (Timothy Zahn books) and extremely cringe (Timothy Zahn books)
>tfw thought Anakin's story was going to be a dark descent into madness in a bloody war arc
>the clone war was never fleshed out, everyone gave it a wide berth but it was typically reflected on as a very calamitous, dark event in the galaxy
>tfw was literally expecting some Colonel Kurtz shit from Apocalypse Now
>thought Anakin would start as a good man and a hero among the Jedi Knights, a warrior of peace
>but the war would be bloody, and costly, and he would lose more and more friends and important people
>would start raising the stakes, willing to do more to win
>attacking civilians
>political assassinations culminating ultimately in the coup
And I carried all of these expectations with me into the theater for a midnight showing of The Phantom Menace as a 14 year old in 1999, and I watched some 8 year old that still had his baby teeth blowing up capital ships while some retarded alien made fart jokes.

>>942328151
That's definitely true. Atleast Hayden is finally getting more credit for the role and he seems to enjoy the positive support

>thread about movies
>moved to /b/ instead of /tv/

Alright...release the cuck and bbc porn.

>Could move to /tv/ but nooooooo
>Meanwhile they refuse to move gacha threads to /vmg/
I'm too weak! Don't kill me. Please!

>>942328209
>moved to a board where it's already at bump limit
kek

>>942328243
Fast as ever.

>>942328209
Any time a /v/ thread is moved to /b/ or /trash/ it's justified because every /v/ thread is offtopic

Why is a harmless thread moved to another board but spergs can spam the catalog with all the porn, political and social media bait they can with no problems?

Welcome to /b/.
This is a log thread now.

>>942328381
If you saw the leaks during the hack and still decided to post here, you deserve what you get.

>>942328381
Because jannes are subhuman

>>942328381
It's the same thing with /vr/ these days, really.
>>12156451

>>942328084

Anakin had absolutely none of the leadership or academic skills necessary to be an effective bureaucrat (and that's what a head-of-state is 99% of the time). He wouldn't even have lived long enough to become a monstrous tyrant because he was a >50 IQ retard with zero impulse control or political tact who would have lasted a year or two at most before getting couped and replaced with a run-of-the-mill military junta. In other words, see >>942328127

>>942328143
>fuck Faloni and his brain chip bullshit

Objectively based and correct opinion

>Anakin would have turned out like ever other military General turned dictator.

He's more likely to end up like Julius Caesar than Francisco Franco.

>>942328072
>No reason to run.

Bruh, if you seriously think Palpatine was going to let her live... I dunno what to tell you.

>>942328073
>I’m genuine convinced that Padme loved Anakin enough that she’d actually be willing to reluctantly betray the Republic for him.

She watched her entire life's work crumble before her very eyes, knew her husband was one of the men most directly behind it. And after all of that, she was willing to not only forgive him, but throw away everything (her family, her wealth, her position, the obligations she felt to her own people for getting them into this mess, all of it) just to be with him. And his response was to not only reject her, but choke her out in a rage. No wonder she died of a broken heart.

>/b/
>No spiderman vs loli threads
>No Gokugets
>No HGs
>No Paint threads
Kisame, we're leaving