A place to discuss different psychoactive substances, safe use, and share user experiences.

Psychedelics are the only drugs that will genuinely improve your life, Caffeine is ok, everything else is pure degeneracy.
> But Alcohol
degenerate
> But smoking
Gay
> But ketamine
satanic
> But MDMA
Fakes love, heretical
> Weed, bro
Faggot

my whole life i've been depressed, had shit luck, unable to get along with others, and always felt like i've been imprisoned by this constant feeling of discontent
then i did shrooms and finally thought i found something special in my life
only for it to be violently taken away from me and replaced with seizures and feeling like my nerves are on fire any time i do psychs, and my daily life is shit because of the brain damage its caused, giving me these insane migraines all the time
how am i supposed to just go back to normal every day life after seeing whats beyond the veil?

>>22868615
the only people who say "DUDE PSYCHEDELICS WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE" are very well-adjusted people in good positions in life
arrogant and retarded and reductionist
if you live in a crappy apartment and take psychedelics, you'll become introverte and insane at best

i more or less agree otherwise

>>22868822
they changed me in a pretty positive way before the seizures, had a good outlook on everything suddenly, much more content with life, very rarely did psychs and drank less, felt more productive
it was when it was taken away from me and i realized i could never trip again that i became distraught

>>22868831
that's good they had a positive effect
i realize they can be very positive, but they're also very powerful, and the way people IMMEDIATELY tell others to take psychedelics without knowing their situation or problems is completely irresponsible

>>22868843
its a question of whether every person has a right to knowledge and choice
the more we learn the better off we feel we would be if we didnt know so much, but at the same time the information feels too vital and precious to lose

>>22868855

>>22868819
Thank you for sharing your experiences and I'm sorry to hear how you have had negative consequences from taking psychs. Do you have this side effect from all psychs or have you only experimented with psilocybin?

Why are shrooms being pushed so hard in all self improvement circles now? Really makes you think.

>>22869122
all psychs, and most drugs, which makes it really strange
happened on dxm and weed, and each time the full length of the drug's effects is just pain

>>22869192
i will say though that alcohol and probably depressants don't do this to me
never done benzos and probably will never risk it, but its a seizure suppressant and slows down the nervous system instead of making it go haywire like other drugs

>>22869185
i know the answer but i don't know how to explain it
it's bad though

>>22869185
if you ever try shrooms you'll be pushing for the same thing
its like being a kid on christmas staying up not expecting much then actually seeing some bearded fatass in a red suit come down your chimney with a bunch of presents, like that kind of oh shit amazement

>>22869196
Do you also react strongly to niacin? This phenomenon sounds super strange.

>>22869200
lmao

i forgot this is the psychoactives thread, so i should say i microdosed psilocybin for 3 months
all it did was give me HPPD and turn me into evne more of an introverted neurotic fuckhead
it's true that it makes you feel like a child, and i was legitimately smarter & more sensitive while on it
but the sensitivity works both ways & makes you a vulnerable pussy
not worth it unless you're already in a very good position in life

the average person who delves into self-improvement on the internet as a way to change their life is going to fuck their life up way more by taking psychedelics

>>22869220
I think that when given proper respect and approached carefully, psychedelics generally will have negligible consequences. Do you care to explain why you believe people will mess up their life by taking them?

>>22869208
no clue
>>22869212
i also get this slight sense that i'm a little more psychotic than usual, in a similar way that microdosing sometimes did, though even less noticeable
usually when i get those migraines my thoughts go crazy and its kinda hard to think straight, but i snap out of it the more i talk with other people
its mostly the slight feeling of impatience and frustration that gets to me
been feeling less and less of it as months go by though thankfully, what once meant spending most of the day feeling like shit is now like a couple hours every few days
i think some people are just more susceptible to it than others

>>22869230
>Do you care to explain why you believe people will mess up their life by taking them?
i already tried to
>>22869230
>I think that when given proper respect and approached carefully, psychedelics generally will have negligible consequences.
i agree
i think when some 100iq person complains about depression online & the first response is "try psilocybin, it'll fix everything" without any further questions/information, that person is going to assume it's not a big deal & won't treat it with any respect

>>22869230
anon i understand what you're saying, but look at my case
i can count my successful drug trips on just two hands yet see what it's done to me
there were no warning signs or anything it just suddenly changed like a switch
i know you cant live your life not doing the things you want to in fear of being hurt but when it comes to psychedelics i feel that we're all in over our heads
we will all die one day and experience something far more extraordinary than any drug or living experience
should we really be spending the little time we have alive chasing a tiny glimpse of the other side while risking our sanity and health?

>>22869247
>i know you cant live your life not doing the things you want to in fear of being hurt but when it comes to psychedelics i feel that we're all in over our heads
it be like that
>while risking our sanity and health?
the scary thing is, most people don't understand what it MEANS to lose those things, until they're gone

>>22869247
Respectfully you are an outlier and even then you say your symptoms are slowly waning. I mean, you mention that we live short lives, so why not enjoy them to the fullest ?

>>22869250
its scary once you realize how thin of a string holds you to life
>>22869259
but i feel that i cant live a full life anymore, not without psychedelics making me feel as though i've returned home

>>22869247
Pretty based take.

I never did hallucinagins because even young I knew my brain and perspective worked very differently than everyone else’s (shrinks would call it (((mental illness))). With that in mind, I have been scared halluinagens would turn me to a lip sucking schizophrenic.

>>22869261
Doesn't the knowledge that you will one day return home forever mitigate that feeling? Even though the afterlife is better than life on earth, I like to think I can appreciate my one shot in this imperfect world nonetheless.

>>22869463
no, because the terror i experienced from those seizures has made me terrified of death
i vividly remember being confused and feeling almost nothing but noise while the world i was in seemed so distant and foreign
i lost all control over what was happening to me and tortured for 10 hours straight in a way no man could do, like boiling water pouring over my brain, and i could feel the two halves of my body almost independently from eachother and i had to consciously try to keep them coordinated with eachother
im worried that death wont be what i saw beyond the veil but instead be just hellish noise, even though all the NDEs point toward the former being true
im pretty sure i have ptsd because of all of it

>>22869503
>i vividly remember being confused and feeling almost nothing but noise while the world i was in seemed so distant and foreign
this is what it felt like during the final 2 out of 6 hours of a trip, when i would take doses of like 1.5g
the first 2 hours are always goofy and fun and stimulating, but it gets fucked later on
it sounds like yours was more intense though
>im worried that death wont be what i saw beyond the veil but instead be just hellish noise

but yeah, imagine some normie with low-grade depression living in a cheap apartment experiencing this shit, lmao
that's why it's a bad idea to give it as the first option without trying to help people fix their life first
it's no better than psychiatrists giving people random pharmaceuticals

>>22869515
I've literally been outside and had spiders land on me on 2.5 and It wasn't a big deal. I doubt someone's apartment being cheap is grounds for a mental breakdown.

>>22869615
you weren't listening
>>22869615
>I doubt someone's apartment being cheap is grounds for a mental breakdown.
i agree
i'm saying, if you're already kind of a well-adjusted normie & your biggest problem is living in a crappy apartment & feeling alienated, imagine what would happen if you took psychedelics & experienced what this guy >>22869503 describes.

>>22869705
I just don't get why the crappy apartment and alienation is such a big deal. Yeah, setting can be important, but it sounds like those things would be the least of your worries if you're dealing with physical pain like this.

>>22869796
i guess it would depend on the person
i think for most people who already feel unstable & like they have no place in the world, going through a hellish experience like that would make them feel infinitely more alienated, like they could never relate to other people again

>>22869821
Oh, so it may compound the alienation? I was thinking in a way different direction.

>>22869849
i feel like it would, especially if the person is already introverted
maybe more extroverted people wouldn't have that problem

but again, the point i was making is just that people are too liberal with recommending psychedelics as a treatment for depression
that's all really

>>22869512
thats strange, for me its the opposite
trips were always confusing and disorienting on the comeup phase but extremely clearheaded on the come down
i remember feeling as though my thoughts and ideas were just coming to me instantly without needing time to think them through like i normally would, could speak long and perfect sentences on complex ideas as if it were a simple primitive instinct
feeling as though all my senses had been melted and twisted together in an incredible synesthesia, and it was amazing to me that i could feel like this, feel as though i wasnt even on this planet on the come down phase, and yet talk and type completely coherently
it was as though i had achieved enlightenment
i flew too close to the sun, but for that short span of time i was soaring with the stars

Anyone into legal stimulants? I've been trying phenypiracetam (phenotropil) recently and it's pretty good for focus / alertness.

>>22870877
caffeine, tobacco

>>22870877
i never could find a source for racetams
i last checked in 2021 though
phenylpiracetam looked interesting
i've tried noopept which didn't do much
there's an obscure one called methylliberine, sold under the name "dynamine". it tastes like ABSOLUTE SHIT, but the effects are like caffeine only better, i would highly recommend trying it
more physical energy & mood increase, less anxiety

if you decide to grow shrooms don't be a cuck by getting one of those ready to go kits, get a spores syringe and do the whole process from scratch. It's more fun and satisfying, and you can potentially get way more yield for the same amount of money.
Look up Bod's Easy AF cheapest way to get started TEK on Shroomery

>>22871745
true

>>22871745
my advice for this is dont fall for le microwave rice meme i lost like 90% of my batches to mold when i was growing
meanwhile my pf tek jars didnt grow mold a single time, i could've probably given it a little more air because i was paranoid but fucking look at this
i started this jar almost a year ago by now and even though the mycelium is probably long dead (my only failure from that batch) there isnt even a hint of mold anywhere

Yeah I'm not touching psychedelics. I know that Anon is a bit of an addict but the risk is too big. I think I can experience happiness without them. I'm about to give up weed soon. It sounds like shrooms touch your brain in a way that it's not meant to be touched, and I'm a pussy I'm not going for it

>>22868819
Also how did you develop the seizures? Was it from the shrooms or something else?

How different are LSD and mushrooms experience-wise? I've never tried the former
>>22871751
>my pf tek jars didnt grow mold a single time
same, and I haven't even been that careful with sterilization.
I would have tried the rice bag method, but unseasoned precooked rice doesn't seem easy enough to find in my country for it to be worth it
>>22871765
in theory you should only worry about it if you have schizo genes

>>22871765
they touch your spirit, a proper trip and not just a low dose will shake you down to the core
it is guaranteed to change anybody who tries it
>>22871768
i dont know
at the time i had grown an unsuccessful batch that neither i or my friends could trip off, like they were just too weak or something
one time i was trying them again to see if they would do anything, and for about 2 hours with it being evident that it wasnt gonna kick in, but i had a headache and was tired from staying up late, and i remembered this thing you can do where you push a pencil or something pointy against your forhead between the brows, and when i held it there a feeling suddenly washed over me when i concentrated on the point, and after that everything felt off, like i was seeing two things at once, everything looked somewhat fuzzy and 'high definition' in a way i couldnt describe, at the time i thought i just gave myself brain damage somehow but the feeling slowly faded over the course of a few hours
next time i tripped was on LSA, which i had done before that point just fine, and that was the first time i experienced that hell
i've also tried dxm and that was the worst time it happened, i was so certain i was just gonna die that time and the seizures lasted for probably 10 hours
i wish so badly that i could just go back to those days where i could trip on shrooms and do dxm and have fun like that again

>>22871968
What do the seizures feel like? Did you go to the docky and get meh mehs for it?

>>22871990
in the beginning it feels like something's lighting up inside of me, almost pleasant, but the feeling of dread just starts getting worse and worse
and slowly it started feeling like something was twisting inside of my skull, across my face, and it was hard to breathe like i was being suffocated yet i was breathing completely fine in reality
i cant really describe the feeling of something contorting in my head in good enough words, it was something unlike physical pain
and the worst of it was when it felt like the two halves of my body were working independently, which only happened once but i remember vividly, the feeling in the legs was terrible because of how large and akward it felt to control them without accidentally hurting myself (although a lot of things were hurting)
and there was sort of an electric feeling
i felt like i was lost somewhere in a state outside of life or death, feeing something flashing and spiraling just outside of my vision but unable to see it, as though i was experiencing synesthesia where the contorting feeling i was experiencing was becoming a visual sensation
if hell fire exists then thats what it feels like

>>22872021
though they probably weren't epileptic seizures, the sensation is different from what i've heard described, and the ER said i didn't have a seizure
but a seizure is the only word i have for it

>>22872021
Please go to the doctor and get a brain transplant. You've done too much damage to your body and mental health. I'm not joking, you need rehab!!!

>>22872031
the doctors have no idea whats wrong with me, thats the worst part of this all
they said my brain scan looked fine, though i dont know how much information they got from it
i'll be fine as long as i dont do any more drugs, like i said i'm getting better, though i still feel like a cripple

>>22872028
Gah dang, you crazy lil' nigga

>>22872033
Fry ID

>>22872125
idk how i didn't notice

>>22871702
I think Phenylpiracetam is much easier to find now. You can even source it off Amazon. However, it is very expensive per dose, around $0.50-$1.00

>>22870880

>>22870880
I'm a big fan of nicotine pouches and patches. However the side effects suck. Nic sick is the worst feeling in the world
Caffeine doesn't really do anything for me except make me jittery.