Thread 22878701

>2010
>bitcoin first trades for 0.003$.
>now worth more than 100,000$
>frauds like Peter Zeihan say ‘it’s going to ZERO!!!!’
>cryptocels keep being proven right
>shit is forever brrrrrr
>mfw I never bought any because I’m scared it’s a pyramid scheme

Is bitcoin actually the shit? Should we all buy some? Or is it a pyramid scheme that will soon burst?

>>22878701 (OP)
its a product that people can trade no matter if countries are at war or money transfers are not currently supported by country

the only real use for me, still never bought it early

since its open source or some shit, bunch of shitcoins popped up 99% of them are pyramid schemes where niggers still try to make money by promising next big thing

>>22878702
But doesn’t bitcoin become worthless if, say, the power went out?

I saw a U.S. general talk about how china have hacked the U.S power supply and can knock it down for long periods of time. Wouldn’t this harm the coins value?

Could be complete fear mongering slop. He is an army general after all. Could be looking to up the military budgets.

>>22878701 (OP)
Legal to own but not something that will define the future and silver is better

>>22878704
Why silver specifically and not gold/platinum etc?

>>22878703
it has value, its like saying doesnt your computer becomes worthless if power goes out

weird question

>>22878703
>But doesn’t bitcoin become worthless if, say, the power went out?
During a long term power term power outage, the internet trade tokens are going to be the least of anyones concern

>>22878703
If the power went out all the food would spoil.
You would have a lot more to worry about.
You can get solar powered chargers and gas generators easy.

>>22878708
>>22878707
>>22878706

Yeah actually that was a retarded point from me jfl

>>22878705
it's hard to make change for a $3000 1oz gold coin.
a $40 1oz silver coin is more manageable.
copper 1oz coin is like $5 - quite manageable

>>22878709
For what it's worth, I wouldn't say bitcoin is some kind of magic risk free asset. It's just a currency being used for currency speculation. A new technology doing the same thing but better could swiftly erase bitcoins value

>>22878703
how do you access your current banking if the power goes out? Do they actually have coin goblins there?

>>22878701 (OP)
>>22878703
I bought in on a larp back in the day and was given 1 bitcoin for creating a wallet. I've made 20 grand ultimately. I paid nowhere near that to buy it and make a wallet. It's a good example of the problems that plague high-finance and jewish money laundering. They now have crypto. They used to use films. This is why hollywood is dead and why we pay so much for basic food stuffs.

>>22878711
Bitcoin is weightless, unstealable money.

If you want to learn the value of Bitcoin go to your bank and try to take out 15k.

I needed to send 20k to something that was my own business, I had to line up behind 10+ darkies and junkies, there were rainbow flags and propaganda all over.
The teller was a fat sassy black woman who didn't want to be there and she put in the wrong codes. I had to explain why I was sending the money. They didn't send the money for a long time then they called me because my account was flagged. The fat black lady put in the wrong code and almost didn't make it. They took $60 in fees. It took like 3 days to send MY MONEY to where I wanted to send it.

Meanwhile I had 30k in Bitcoin transfer and I sent it to where I wanted to thousands of miles in 5 minutes NO QUESTIONS ASKED and a $1 fee.

Bitcoin is magical teleportation capital that is exponentially increasing in value and no one can steal it from you.

If you want to know the value of your Bitcoin, just go deal with 15k+ from a bank

>>22878714
>unstealable money
U.S. has bitcoin via confiscation...

>>22878715
Impossible, the only way they can take your Bitcoin is if you give them the seed phrase or your key.

>>22878713
Everybody buys bitcoin at the price they deserve, this is known.

Imagine thinking digital bleep bloops in an era of printers going brr is the solution.

I bought 8 years ago and sold just before the etfs were announced. Made a good profit. Anyone entering now is retarded. The time to make money on crypto was years ago. Now I'm invested to the tits in silver and gold, something greedy banker jews can't get their hands on. Both are beating bitcorn YTD.

>>22878701 (OP)
It's the world's most successful pyramid scheme. If you got in early congrats but you have to be a retard to get in now

>>22878703
>But doesn’t bitcoin become worthless
protip anon Bitcoin is worthless now with the power on

>>22878718
>but my digital bleep bloops atleast are created to look like something valuable.

>>22878716
Oh sweet summer child

>bitcorn is untraceable

Btc recently went to zero on the mexc exchange, leading to mass liquidations

>>22878720
>>22878719
>bitcoin is worthless now
>says congrats to early adopters
lol. stay poor.

>>22878701 (OP)
>100k for bitshit token
Not buying your heavy bags kike

You’re late.

>>22878701 (OP)
man i wish i had mined it back when i had free electricity access too

>>22878703
well thats why its decentralized and you and me both could help make it further so if needed. unless electricity and internet goes out in the whole world its not going to go down

>>22878701 (OP)
I had about 500 BTC back in 2013 that I had to sell to help fund moving house. Wish I hadn't sold that. You only get one of those in life, one of those chances to make a shit ton of money. That was my one. These days it's rare I even have $500 to my name. It hurts.

>>22878714
the governments that we supposedly democratically choose hate this kind of freedom. they always want to know everything and no one suspects a thing when they use the good old lines of think of the children or muh terrorists

>>22878706
>it has value, its like saying doesnt your computer becomes worthless if power goes out
The computer is physical. I could sell the parts if the power went out (assuming there is a market). The Bitcoin can only be transferred digitally. The chain has to confirm the transaction. Sure you could exchange a physical wallet or seed phrase physically. The transaction can't be confirmed. It kind of defeats the whole purpose of the technology. Why not just use gold and silver coins at that point? Or some other physical form of "value"?There are some real existential problems with ethereal currency. Oh wait, just like FED notes. Weird. I guess Bitcoin doesn't really solve anything.

>>22878729
Don't sweat it, bro. Nobody could really know BTC's ceiling, and you used what you had when you needed it. That's how this shit works.
>Captch: J00 MD

>>22878731
>Bitcoin doesn't really solve anything if the entire planet and every government and economy completely collapses so that it's infrastructure is impossible to operate
Incredible 1000 IQ megamind argument.
Stay.
Poor.

>>22878701 (OP)
>bitcoin
It is just Onlyfans for beta dudes.

>>22878713
>They now have crypto. They used to use films. This is why hollywood is dead
This actually makes a lot of sense.
>why we pay so much for basic food stuffs
But why would it affect food items?

>>22878731
traditional money would have the same problem. its all plastic cards and databases now

>>22878715
>>22878714
>>22878730
>U.S. has bitcoin via confiscation...
Arguing with these Bitcoin cultists is kind of pointless. Every single transaction is trackable. It's the very sort of technology a technocrat has wet dreams about. These idiots think they are anonymous.... Technically there is some anonymity. But, if you buynon exchanges that KYC, or your wallet address is exposed...

>>22878733
>Crying wojak: the post

>>22878701 (OP)
i was reluctant to invest in the beginning because it was all black market stuff- drugs and not much else. it's forever tainted to me because of that association. i feel like it's worthless and only our collective retardation keeps it up. in a lot of ways it's exactly the same as all fiat currency.

>it's just paper
>it's just an encrypted blockchain

i'd rather horde gold.

>>22878736
That's exactly the point. Nothing was solved. You just have non repudiation with BTC (or any crypto) for 99% of the situations.

>>22878737
just use monero which the jew fears and has banned from popular exchanges. also with bitcoin you can indeed see how many bitcoins go to which bitcoin address but it will not tell you which person the bitcoins went to

90% of coins are owned by 1% of wallets

You ready for the greatest rug pull ever?

>>22878741
>bitcoin you can indeed see how many bitcoins go to which bitcoin address but it will not tell you which person the bitcoins went to
Correct. If your wallet is ever traced to you it's all there. The problem with monero is that it's used for illicit transactions. Yes it anonymous (mostly) but you are congregating with less than ideal groups of people. This will bring additional scrutiny upon you even if you aren't doing anything wrong. Guilt by association so to speak.

>>22878701 (OP)
Dogecoin is the future

>>22878743
and so is cash but luckily our caring governments are making it harder to obtain and use so we will be safe from those scary criminals!!

>>22878729
I feel the same way, I knew about BTC way before any normie, I remember the buttcoins threads on /g/ and could mine some since I had a pretty powerful GPU back then, but never did.

>>22878701 (OP)

Jfl

Crypto is supposed to be a currency. Like the euro, pound, US dollar, swiss frank, gold, silver...

It is a damn good currency because it's inherently limited, physically hard to control for the government, and is in itself a payment method too. You can evade taxes with it, keep your money safer than in a bank and impossible to take from you, pay anyone any amount you want with a tiny commission...

So yes. It is actually the shit! It's not a pyramid scheme, it's for real!

But wait a moment... How are people making money off it? Did you ever think about that? Why is it giving people returns? People surely don't buy euros or US dollars for a return on their investment and expect to get rich. Even gold doesn't make money, it only hedges from inflation and, apart from that, the price randomly fluctuates. Why is that the case with bitcoin? What is it about it that makes money?

It's not the stock of a company that sells anything. It's not debt of any organization or person who will make money and pay interest in exchange for a loan. Hmm what is it? Can you think of something?

I'm pretty sure it's people buying it in order to make money, then selling it later to someone who wants to do the same thing, over and over again. So, buying it as an investment is a pyramid scheme and a fraud. Bitcoin per se is great.

>>22878723
The display showed the wrong price, but it was just a display nothing actually happened.

>>22878748
> nothing actually happened

>>22878701 (OP)
The value is the public ledger, but even then there can be derivative transactions. If the bankers weren't cooking the books, then public ledgers wouldn't even be needed. They've been falsifying the financials for over 2 decades. It's a symptom of a larger problem.

>>22878701 (OP)
Yes, everyone who wants to outperform every other asset class should buy bitcoin now and forever. You won’t be able to pick individual stocks that will outperform it.

>>22878743
>Yes it anonymous (mostly) but you are congregating with less than ideal groups of people

such as people who use drugs that don't harm anyone? or don't want the government to steal from them? those kinds of less than ideal people?

People were handing them out on /g/ for ass pics

>>22878753
jfl fucking simps

internet normies will simultaneously tell you they get laid super easily and also pay women to give them nudes and attention

>>22878754
man ass. This was back when it was worthless for real

>>22878755
jfl

>>22878724
>lol. stay poor.
I adopted early though and made a lot. My point still stands though. You have to be there at the end making measly money begging people buy in so your $100 of allowance money maybe becomes $150

>>22878701 (OP)
Bitcoin is going to zero, and lots of retards will lose their shirts.

I remember suggesting to people here to buy at $10,000.
I'll suggest people buy at $100,000.

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>>22878729
Bitcoin peaked at $1,300 USD in 2013

You fibbing cunt

>>22878742
proof?

>>22878703
trust me if all power went out you would have bigger problems than bitcoin becoming worthless almost all money is digital nowadays

Monero is the final solution to the taxman question.

>>22878705
There is literally zero argument for silver being better than bitcoin in any contest. Gold isn't either, but there is at least a discussion that could be had.

>>22878714
>$30k btc transfer
>five minutes
>$1 fee
doubt

>>22878747
Bitcoin is a shit currency. the actual transfer takes days. And as mining prices (which is how transactions get processed btw) goes up in cost, fewer transaction will be completed. Good luck going to a grocery store and waiting 36hrs to get you food....

And its price is going up so that the US can sell more treasuries (Its how tether works) and borrow more money (because the asset side of the USA spreadsheet gets several hundred billion dollars bigger)

>>22878764
Monero is OWNED by the tax man. Ghislane Maxwell and Jeffry Epstein had the two largest Monero wallets to ever exist. Its totally co-opted by mossad, and thus you will be fucked because youre buying FROM the glowies directly. Same way silkroad went down....

>>22878715
They didn't steal it. It was seized after criminal court proceedings.

>>22878722
>sentenced for tax fraud for crypto sales
>owes $1 million in restitution from the criminal case
Sounds like this retard should have just paid his taxes.

>>22878765
alpha

BTC is six figures. It has seen buyin from every group possible. Who else has greater money bags than Blackrock/Vanguard/and the USA government? Right it may go up some, bbut its hockey stick days are over.

Silver on the other hand is vastly undervalued as above ground supplies have shrunk 60% and consumption continues to outpace production to the tune that by 2028 we will be out of aboveground silver. Thus sometime between now and then silver is going to jump up massively in order to bring consumption and production back into balance.

Much more alpha in silver.

>>22878768
That is legalized theft....

>>22878769
but according to all the crypto bros transactions are untraceable!!!

>>22878767
>the actual transfer takes days.
no it does not.

>>22878771
>but according to all the crypto bros transactions are untraceable!!!
no one says that about Bitcoin unless they're retarded. That transactions are traceable is a core feature of the blockchain. It's entirely possible to obfuscate identity from easy public view and that is a normal feature of BTC. If you wish to evade well-funded Government inspectors with incentive to track down your money well you're shit out of luck, not unlike keeping your money in a bank or anywhere else.

>>22878771
whatever ideology you have regarding taxation it's true that you'll have to pay taxes no matter what form your money/income/gains take. if you fail to do so they will forcibly seize what you owe them.

>>22878767
>Bitcoin is a shit currency
people calling it a "currency" is the same scam as Japs calling pachinko balls a currency to buy gifts. No one uses it like that. It's not its purpose. They tried really hard when it started but gave up since it's too volatile. People who claim their memecoin actually has some purpose are lying to your face

>>22878701 (OP)
Bitcoin is compromised but no one understands how or why yet.
Its definitely going to zero
Xrp is the true king

>>22878722
I like how it's something he must do, not something the government has already done. Unlike your bank account that the government will just take.

>>22878766
>doubt
you're right, it only costs about 70 cents for a fast as possible (next block mined) send

>>22878703
imagine if one of the exchanges went down.

The value of bitcoin mostly comes from drug cartels using it to move money around. They normally pay over 60% of the face value of money they are laundering so losing 10% to BTC is a massive savings for them.

>>22878716
>>22878714
You are a retard if you dont think the CIA owns the bitcoin trade

>>22878774
it's both money and currency and is used regularly to transfer large amounts of money. the primary reason it's not used more often for payments right now is because the value of the asset is still being determined through market processes. Many things are bought and paid for with Bitcoin each day, regardless.

Almost all financial transactions in the developed world are already digital.

>>22878701 (OP)
It's real, but it ain't a deal.
It is there to vacuum up excess currency to make transitioning to a centralized, government owned future.

Sure, you can be rich for a few more months.
After that, though, you will share the same fate of the poor you mock.

Wholecoiner here. Also got 6 figs in other investments.
You are retarded if you don't own BTC and it's not my job to explain to you why you're wrong.
If I'm talking to you then you already failed.

>>22878761
Thats all these faggots do, lie to get you in on their pyramid scheme and try to get your greed and FOMO to come out

>>22878777
on a slow day

>>22878784
you had ten years
no you will be poor forever
how does it feel to have missed such an easy chance to escape poverty?

>>22878781
>transfer large amounts of money
pulling it out for fiat cash is not a transaction and goes against what bitcoin was made for aka to have something not fiat

>>22878783
What is it with you retards and these shame posts like you think this will get me to waste my money and hold your bags. This never works but you retards do it every bitcoin thread. Anyone that has a good thing going financially always keeps it to themselves that's rule #1

>>22878787
yeah ok in a few years that will happen. in the meantime other currency exists and it has to be negotiated and settled. it'll all shift to BTC very quickly when it does

>>22878784
>calling btc a pyramid scheme
Yeah cuz fiat and social security isn't, lmao

>>22878789
BTC will never be a viable currency because it is volatile which is the reason steam stopped accepting it. When I can go to my local grocery chain, scan my wallet and buy groceries without the need of some middle man app then you will have an argument

Crypto is MLMs for men. You're a retarded faggot if you waste your time on this negative sum game.

Realistically, for you to *potentially* make a return on BTC, you need it to reach a minimum of 140K ATH.

And should that even happen, these are shit returns. This is single digit IQ gambling for turdies.

Disregarding the fact that crypto has yet to find a single legitimate use case and we're in 2025. This shit is going nowhere.

>>22878788
I'm not selling, retard. Carry your own bags. I'm not interested in yours at all.
You know I told about 4 different people back in the day to just look into BTC. I didn't tell them to buy it, I just told them to look into it. Then for years and years they said I was retarded, or that it's Le bubble, or I was wrong etc, and now every one of them has asked me for money.
So it's annoying when nocoiners act smug and desperate when we fucking told you about this a decade ago.
I'm not even just in crypto btw I have a diversified folio.
Grab and hold your own shitty bags, once again.

>>22878791
>because it is volatile
for now. that is a function of it being far underpriced. we are in a one-time period where price discovery of this new asset is happening. that's why people are saying to buy it - any intelligent analysis suggests that it is still vastly underpriced.

>>22878793
>hodler
>people keep asking me for money
Nice LARP, broke faggot. You can have your cake and eat it too.

>>22878793
>another retarded shame post
I am not going to buy in and raise your investment. Get that through your head.

>>22878794
>for now
For it's entire existence with no signs of stopping.

>>22878792
>"crypto"
>Bitcoin
these aren't the same thing

>>22878797
Don't play games with me you dumb nigger. I know more about this shit than all you bag holding subhumans put together.

>>22878701 (OP)
buy it, but wait until I finish spending my money on it so that it can stay low for me and you can be the one buying at the higher price instead

>>22878786
>>22878790
muh you didnt buy in at the bottom when you were in the middle of the great recession with no money straight out of highschool. I dont care, nothing I could have done to get in on it. So you cant flex on me that way

>fiat is a ponzi scheme
yes but it is backed by oil. It at least has some value based on a resource. Bitcoin has 0 usecase and 0 value and is a pyramid scheme in that it DEPENDS on retards pretending it has value to get other retards to buy into it.

>>22878795
Lol I'm about to close on a house and I'm only putting 5% down, because my portfolio growth rate vastly exceeds the cost of maintaining the debt.

>>22878796
You wouldn't be able to hold my bags even if they were for sale; which they are not. You know long term investors don't care at all about price action, right? It's not for sale and you couldn't afford it anyway, lol.

>>22878796
>For it's entire existence with no signs of stopping.

Numerous issues (legal, technical etc) had to be tested and settled before the promise of BTC could be verified well enough to apply it in the way that meets its potential. Realistically we only crossed that barrier in the last year or two, maybe even six months. you're right that it's not stopping yet, but that is because the price is going to continue to climb while everything is re-priced against it. that will dramatically increase the price, but I guess you're not interested in benefitting from that. eventually the price will be very stable. 2040 at the latest and I think much sooner.

>>22878798
If that were true you'd understand exactly what I meant. no one well versed on the cryptocurrency landscape would take issue with classifying Bitcoin separate from "crypto"

>>22878801
>p....p....please feel bad and buy in so my investment value raises
lol no

>>22878802
No it's as simple as it being nothing more than a pyramid scam with no purpose as it has been for 16 years and counting but yea we are 2 weeks away from that ending I bet lol

>>22878800
>muh you didnt buy in at the bottom when you were in the middle of the great recession with no money straight out of highschool. I dont care, nothing I could have done to get in on it. So you cant flex on me that way

IMO Bitcoin has only been an obvious buy since 2020. As in you can flex on people who haven't purchased it since then. Buying before that is more luck and fortune.

>>22878701 (OP)
My btc position is up 140% :))))

>>22878801
>pepe LARP
You're the blackest, dumbest nigger of them all. Post receipts or stfu.

>>22878805
>with no purpose
kek

>>22878806
>Buying before that is more luck and fortune.
It's not just that all these people saying "damn I wish I bought early" would have sold the moment it had any value. It takes a certain amount of skill and discipline to understand to leave an investment alone. My buddy sold his early to pay for his wedding and he tells me had he waited he would have a couple million dollars now.

>>22878804
I've argued dumb niggers like you a thousand times, quite literally. You're presenting me with nothing new, hence the impatience of your bullshit.

>>22878809
Correct it has no purpose. There was an honest attempt to give it purpose early on but they since abandoned that. I remember when a sandwich shop in NYC took it many years ago and the community cheered that aspect of this community is gone around the same time they opened the flood gates to pajeets and chinks

>>22878810
most people who owned really early sold, as is to be expected. What I'm saying is that up until a certain point there were still unanswered questions that warranted not trusting Bitcoin just yet. Those are now in the past.

The thing about bitcoin that i never get is that it has a negative carry cost. Not an individual satoshi, but the network itself. The network has to be maintained, and that has costs. This creates a permanent selling pressure, structural to the system. If you don't have people constantly coming into crypto, it will go down because miners HAVE to sell coins to pay their costs. If at any time in the future you have more people selling bitcoin than you have people buying bitcoin, those sellers will need to compete with the structural selling of miners. Thus far, as nearly every satoshi ever bought has just been hoarded, this has not been a problem but a boon - the structural selling by miners has provided "liquidity" for the newcomers. However, if you ever have a situation (lets say, an economic depression) in which people who have invested into bitcoin in the past need to dip into their "hodl bags" in order to uphold a better standard of living or whatever, we will finally find out if bitcoin is "the real deal". When you consider the amount of leverage in the bitcoin market, with players such as microstrategy straight up doing a "all in, leverage to the tits" strategy, you don't need too much of a downturn for this to get really ugly really fast.

I really don't know if it will withstand this test, but something tells me that "bitcoin goes up forever" isn't as much of a certainty as most people make it out to be.

>>22878805
I have a correction to 70k priced in based on the Bollenger band and the 120d m/a.
I really don't need your paltry sum of septims. Please keep it. You need it more than I do (seriously).
I'm really trying to get through your skull. You obviously aren't into investing or finance, so you can't really tell when you're embarrassing yourself.
In finance you don't always want an asset to appreciate in value on its dollar pair. Long term you really want to see red candles as slurp opportunities - because USD price is irrelevant and normie tier shit.
What does your portfolio look like, just out of curiosity? Once again you couldn't even hold my bags. I've been doing this for a long time, lol. It's kind of cute when nocoiners get all uppity hahaha.

>>22878811
you're not arguing with me you're just making yourself look dumb and arrogant. i'm sure it's not the first time.

>>22878812
low iq

>>22878808
You want me to post my address for the house I'm buying? Obviously I won't be doing that.

>>22878798
where should I invest my money to outpace the inflation Danish man ?

>>22878818
Why don't you invest in any one of the amazing, emergent tech companies in Europe?
Oh wait lol they aren't allowed to have that.

>>22878813
>Those are now in the past.
No they aren't. It's an excellent way to launder money which IMO is the thing that will be its undoing ultimately.

>>22878815
>words words words
It's crazy how many "rich" people spend hours of their life begging people to get into their scam lol. If I was rich I would be on an island retired not giving a shit.

>>22878816
Still not buying your scam coin

>>22878820
I'm not rich lol and I'm not trying to get you to buy anything. I do not care about you, at all. I work all week and it's actually Sunday right now bro.
Whats your portfolio like?

>>22878820
generous definition of "launder"

>>22878783
>Wholecoiner here
congrats, being a wholecoiner is the goal of most bitcoiners.

>>22878821
>I'm not trying to get you to buy anything
Yes you are. All you BTC NEETs do the same act
>"if I shame people enough maybe they will buy into my grift"
and I am telling you this does not work.

>>22878822
You can convert cash to bitcoin and as long as you can money laundering will be a thing

>>22878823
Thank you anon. The suicide stack used to be 10, then it was 5, then it was 1..now it's 0.1. I'm gonna keep hold of it I think.

>>22878825
Yep, never sell that 1 BTC no matter what happens. When the price super moons, like wayyy over $1 million and if you need money urgent, then only sell 10% of your stack at a time.

>>22878806
>obvious buy
nigger I was buying food not some speculation
>>22878810
>skill to drink your own coolaid
have fun riding bitcoin to the bottom of nothing the next real financial crisis happens and every bank liquidates their holdings cover the actual currency game

>>22878826
that one million won't even get you a bag of chips at that point

>>22878824
you can just hand over the cash directly you know

The dumb moneybags LARP nigger is so astoundingly stupid, he can't stop giving away the fact he's dead broke LMAO.
>thank you saar
lol

>>22878824
I'm not, I'm actually ridiculing you and belittling you for not doing so. It's too late for you now anyway. All that there is to do is laugh at nocoiners.
What do you think you have that I could want? It's not your foresight or wisdom.
No, it's amusement. Do you understand now?
Again, what's your portfolio like anon?

>>22878825
IMO the make it stack for Bitcoin is .01

If you've got that much before things get crazy, you are good.

>>22878828
>at that point
people will be buying things in sats and not dollars

>>22878827
You misunderstood me I think BTC is a scam too at this point.

>>22878829
No you can't if you have large amounts and want them to be somewhere secure like a bank or on the stock market

>>22878831
>PPP.PPP..PLEASE I AM BEGGING YOU SAARS FEEL BAD AND BUY BITCOIN"
lol no

>>22878832
Funny how GME cultists mirror this belief 1:1.

As long as they have *one* stock of GME, then their ticket to paradise is saved. You're both dumb niggers btw.

>>22878828
BTC has gone up over 6x in the time that potato chips have gone up by 1.5x

Kek at this kike. Mass liquidation of long positions on the seychelles based mexc exchange due to the price going to zero

>>22878703
If the power goes out you have two options. Try to stay where you are until it comes back or leave.
Your credit/debit cards won't work if the powers out. Your dollars will make you a target the moment you transact with them. Your silver will weigh you down when you try to leave. Maybe you can hide an ounce of gold in your ass, but let's be real, you don't even have gold. Meanwhile your bitcoin is with you until you're dead as long as you can remember 12 to 24 words. Your bitcoin can be turned into local currency if you make it somewhere with power. Your share will never be drowned out because there's only 21 million of them ever. It truly is better than gold.

>>22878834
Your portfolio, anon.
You can't afford my bags.
Your portfolio.
You do invest, don't you?
>he's a checking account nigger
Lemme guess, you never had a credit card and you're proud of that too?

>>22878703
Hydro or solar powered bitcoin mining with satelite or ham radio powered transactions. Don't worry.

>>22878836
should have gone all in on coffee futures. seen the coffee packs go from 3€ to 10 since the ukraine scam

>>22878757
>I adopted early though and made a lot.
Prove it you lying nigger. Show us your brown hands holding those empty bags.

>>22878832
I personally think having a make it stack defined is setting up to fail/spend. The true redpilled method is to not withdraw it and let it be generational wealth.
But yes I can see the argument for a $1M BTC but even then I'm not selling.

>>22878838
No one has ever been robbed or kidnapped for their passwords, no sir. It's not a currently on-going epidemic at all. Or even forgotten them/misplaced it.

Crypto shilling is always retarded, but going down the "its gonna be mad max money" is PEAK.

>>22878701 (OP)
>Peter Zeihan
dude the moment you consider zeihan opinions you are disqualified as a sentient being

Crypto is a massive scam. It’s not backed by anything, no gold standard.

>>22878701 (OP)

To understand the importance of Bitcoin, understand the following:

1. Over 5,000 years ago, humans started keeping track of accounting, leading to a "Ledger" over time. Ledgers were kept on parchment or anything else that could be written on.

2. Bitcoin is the 1st, universal, digital, high-secure, ledger. However, it can be used for much more than accounting.

I would think its highly valuable. However, I own 0.0 Bitcoins to be transparent.

>>22878839
I am not buying your coin pajeet. Try a new tactic.

>>22878843
Nope

>>22878701 (OP)
It will probably keep going up.
It's one of those things that will make you monkey, but will also support all the worst criminals you can think of. Bitcoin is the perfect way to pay for something illegal.

>>22878701 (OP)
Its only useful for money laudering.
Just tell me a single real business, not online shit, that accepts BT

>>22878850
>perfect way to pay for something illegal
>ledger
You are such a dumb nigger.

>>22878847
The growth of crypto mirrored how many markets it got access to. It's all tapped out. There is nothing left to cause it to grow which is why it keeps fluctuating up and down at around the same value now. It was a great thing to get into early if you did but risky and stupid t do it now

>>22878770
billions of metric tons of silver in the kuiper belt

>>22878701 (OP)
Buy kaspa its bitcoin but better and jewish.
Yes if you read this and don't buy you are going to kys next year.

>>22878765
>There is literally zero argument for silver being better than bitcoin in any contest
You can't be serious. But you do you, keep piling into crypto as an investment and let me know how it works out. Guys like you remind me of those people who thought interest rates could only go down, who btw were the majority view a few years ago.
>duh crypto can only go up, everybody has bought, even boomer 401k accounts. duh
Who else is left to buy your ponzi scheme?
Meanwhile silver actually gets used. You and I agree that gold is better than silver over the long run. Silver has more potential for a short squeeze though.

>>22878783
I will never buy your btc from you at any price. I buy physical gold and silver. I said the same thing to the hordes of people like you telling me to take the vaxx. I will never take your vaxx. I will never buy your BTC.

>>22878850
npcs are so tiresome. one should take a moment to think who even defines what is illegal. it is not the people, in fact the things people want harsher punishments for are always ignored. like child rape which in eu liberal cuck countries might give you some symbolic sentence before hes free to continue

>>22878856
It's not for sale, jeet. And even if it were, you couldn't afford it.
And I also own gold and silver, lol.

>>22878701 (OP)
Governments and jews are using it to offset inflation for fiat currencies. BTC has an expiration date and that is when quantum computers crack it and it becomes valueless instantly.

>>22878849
>he doesn't even have a portfolio

>>22878747
>good currency because it's deflationary
this is the average bittard. intrinsically worthless, by the way. the entire original thesis has been shlacked. you're in the last inning, blackrock is desperately trying to get this shit into 401k's. if they can't and zion don doesn't corral congress into pumping his bags, they've failed to prove the market and will be dumping saylor's entire pet project right onto the blockchain. if the stock market continues for now, then flows into the ETFs won't stop for a bit so congratulations you'll get new ATHs. that's your out. when you start seeing shit like picrel you should know it's close to over, and if you don't you should know that you're close to blowing out

Reminder:
>Gold shills
Retarded
>Silver shills
Retarded
>Crypto shills
Retarded.

>>22878742
Zinc is a garbage metal, your chart sucks

>>22878860
>the happy successful guy has now spent an hour of his life whining about me trying to gaslight me into buying into his scam
lol

>>22878859
Q Day will actually mean that Bitcoin gets forked. I will be on the side that believes the quantum computer should be allowed to take all the lost BTC and add it to the open market. It would seriously damage the price but it will ensure the integrity of Bitcoin is unbroken.
Let the quantum computer take every lost Satoshi and move forward.

>>22878701 (OP)
Bitcoin is probably mostly done. The market cap it would need for any real impressive gains, from here, is simply too high for what it is

>>22878861
doh

>>22878865
>integrity of Bitcoin
lmao

>>22878838
>Your bitcoin can be turned into local currency
There's the problem. This is assuming the person with currency is willing to trade it for your digital coin, and I think in a worst case scenario where eletricity is unstable and only currency gets you things, only an idiot would trade. It's like saying, okay, you can survive for now and come out on top when shit finially gets sorted, if it ever does. Or, you can trade security now for a chance that when/if things do get back to normal you can be rich. The odds that you will survive to cash in your digital wealth is pretty low.

>>22878864
>why are you responding to me
>the final death rattle of someone who's been in check for several turns
I mean it's a Sunday evening and I'm watching YouTube with my wife and browsing 4chan as I do. You think if you're happy then you can not look at your phone every now and again to respond to someone online? It only takes a second lmao what kind of response is that?
Is this what you're going with bro?
You wanna tell me what's in your portfolio?

>>22878701 (OP)
no

>>22878870
>"i...i...i'm not mad u are"
kek pajeet find another mark I am not buying your scam

>>22878872
Whats in your portfolio?

>>22878873
Whats in your poofolio pajeet?

>>22878719
/thread
It's fully exposed now. Anyone who was gonna buy has bought. Unless we find a new civilisation on mars or something, and bitcoin gets a fresh pool of investors, it's not going to see any huge rises ever again.

>dumb zoomer spic doesn't even have a portfolio
>doesn't invest
>keeps money in a checking account which is basically a conveyor belt
>can't name a single investment he has made that is better than BTC (which he has been priced out of).

>>22878703
if that happens you have bigger problems than your investments. As long as there's a functioning society there's bitcoin

>>22878710
>copper 1oz coin is like $5 - quite manageable
Ten pre-1982 copper pennies weight exactly one Troy ounce. They are worth 10 cents.

>>22878705
Jews lie about how much Gold and Silver are in circulation, everything about the precious metals market is fake and gay, it's all manipulated by gaming paper derivatives

There is 10x more Gold in circulation than they say there is

There is 100x less Silver than they say there is

>>22878835
You lack imagination.

>>22878875
I'm glad you asked.
I am
>60% crypto
>10% tradfi
>20% PM
>10% cash

Of that crypto, I have
>1.00 BTC
>10 SOL
>5000 ondo
>2000 PYTH

>NASDAQ makes up most of my tradfi
>little bit of oil stock

>300oz silver
>4oz gold

>$10,000 in paper cash
>$10,000 in the bank

No retirement and no real estate until next month when I get my house.

Whats in your portfolio then?

>>22878883
>just text
>no actual screenshots
>no poo investments

>>22878865
the QC thing was solved years ago. hilarious that this FUD has been going around again recently.

>>22878877
Reason why I stopped engaging with you is because you're the most blatant 0.000000001 coiner zoomer I've yet to lay my eyes upon. Your LARPing is profoundly awful.

You're brown and you will die broke, zoomie.

>>22878884
>no investments at all

>>22878722
> GIVE ME UR CODES OR IM GUNN GET REALLY MAD.
uhhhh no.
I'm just gonna like.. not give you the keys and you'll never get it ahahahah
It is IMPOSSIBLE TO STEAL

>>22878886
Who are you? I wasn't talking to any Eutopoors so I think you're confused.

>>22878882
This is not about imagination, I'm just reporting what I'm seeing. GME apes and bitcoiners are my personal lolcow communities.

>>22878762
https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html
>>22878758
>The only way nocoiners can cope
See you at $200k

>>22878879
better stock up on it then

>>22878887
>believe me SAARs I have investments in my poofolio but I can't screenshot SAARS
kek busted

>>22878742
>90% of coins are owned by 1% of wallets
That means nothing since anyone can create a bunch of near-empty wallets in bitcoin

>>22878855
back in 2022 I bought 3 BTC and over a million kas, I sleep like a king at night knowing how rich I'm going to be in a few years

welcome to >>>/bant/

I didn’t know this board was so poor, retarded, and disingenuous. Yes retards, it’s the real deal. It’s the best performing asset of all time and the hardest money ever created. In addition to making you rich, bitcoin also grants sovereignty at a level never before seen in history.