Capitalism is a jewish scam which runs on perpetual geometric expansion of the fiat currency supply and inevitably periodically fails through either hyperinflation or massive depression and cancellation of large swaths of the fiat currency supply, where the working class have their fiat savings cancelled in bank "failures" or "bail-ins", like in the Cyprus banking crisis.
Capitalism cannot afford to purchase its own aggregate internal production at a price which it is profitable to produce that output at, unless the money needed to constitute the profits is continually added to the system, such as by creating fiat currency (or more of it than is already in existence) or allowing counterfeiting or debasing of sound money such as silver coins, such as by reducing the purity or the weight of the coins.
However, the fiat creation needs to be continuous to enable continued capitalist production and the rate at which new fiat is created needs to accelerate (the growth needs to be geometric) or the rate of expansion of the fiat currency supply gradually approaches 0% of the already existing amount over time, as the supply grows, and so does the average possible rate of profit. Expanding the fiat supply from $10 trillion to $11 trillion within a year is a yearly growth of 10% but expanding it further, from $11 trillion to $12 trillion in the subsequent year is only a growth of 9.(09)%. For the fiat supply to grow another 10% in the second year, it needs to grow from $11 trillion to $12.1 trillion instead of just $12 trillion.
GDP is not economic activity but the estimated and inferred rate of spending of fiat per year.
Inflation, including due to scarcity - which forces people to spend their fiat savings into circulation, inflates the GDP. Deflation, including due to abundance, contracts the GDP.
Fiat currency is not wealth but merely claims on wealth.
Wealth is what you spend fiat currency on, not fiat currency itself.
Capitalism is not a closed loop or system.

>>60690807 (OP)
Further increasing the pressure to print more and ever faster is the propensity of a large part of the population and also some corporations and businesses to NOT spend all the fiat currency they receive as wages, dividends, rents, royalties or payments for goods sold or services rendered as soon as they receive said fiat currency. And instead electing to sit on part of their income as fiat currency savings in a bank. Which parks that fiat currency out of circulation, at least for a while, and thus contracts the circulating supply of fiat currency by expanding the parked supply of fiat currency. Which, in turn, makes it necessary for new fiat currency to be created and injected into circulation (by giving it to people and businesses who don't have fiat currency they would nevertheless like to spend and are willing to borrow it from a bank in order to spend it) to replace, in circulation, the fiat currency which has been parked, out of circulation, by people and business who keep at least part of their savings as fiat currency in a bank.
Yet another intrinsic, fundamental, systemic problem of the capitalist model is that fiat currency flows within it are uneven and asymmetric. For example, people pay more to businesses as payment for their goods or services than people receive back from businesses as wages, dividends, rent or royalties. This is because ALL businesses have at least expenses towards other businesses, such as suppliers and subcontractors, utilities companies. This means that people, as a whole and as a class of economic agent, pay more, on average, to businesses, as a whole and as a class of economic agent, than businesses pay back to people as wages, dividends, rent or royalties. The difference has to be perpetually made up from and through consumer credit. Which is people constantly borrowing money to make up the shortfall/discrepancy between what they need to pay for goods and services they need or want and what they themselves are paid.

>>60690807 (OP)
There are 2 types of fiat currency:
1. Physical cash and coins printed, minted or coined by the central banks (or for them by private businesses under exclusivity contracts with the central banks).
2. Money of account. This is fictional cash and coins which don't exist physically and are just promises to pay cash or coins, in the same nominal amount, to the holder, on demand. They exist on the ledgers of the banking system.
Banks have been granted the right to "legally" deceive the entirety of society that the second type of fiat currency is the same as the first or that it doesn't exist, with the implication being that the second type of fiat currency is actually the first type when it really isn't. The proof that these two are not the same type of fiat currency, and also the proof that there is *A LOT* more of the second type in existence than the first, is that banks can run out of the first type of fiat currency to honour "withdrawal" requests against the second type, by depositors who think they're the same thing, and to avoid that happening, there are laws on the books in every country to force private individuals and businesses to store their physical fiat currency notes and coins, above a meagre amount, in banks and thus only use the second type of fiat currency for their larger transactions. In addition to this, convenience and online purchases ensure that most people prefer the second type of fiat currency.
While only central banks control the creation and issuance into circulation in the economy of the first type of fiat currency, any non-central bank anywhere can issue more of the second type of fiat currency into circulation. They do this by pretending to "lend" the first type of fiat currency to willing borrowers. But in actual fact, they just create more of the second type of fiat currency when they approve the "loan" (which is actually credit and not a loan) and issue it to the borrower. Or a credit card holder pays for something with it.

>>60690807 (OP)
When you go to the bank or the ATM to withdraw cash, you're actually asking to have your fictional cash and coins, which only exist as digits on the digital ledger of your bank, exchanged for physical cash and coins.
Regardless of your opinion on central banks, all non-central banking is legalised fraud because non-central banks issue (create and introduce into circulation) fictional cash and coins by pretending to "lend" it to willing borrowers, who then spend it into the economy, and lying to everyone in society that that fictional cash and coins actually physically exists or is backed by existing physical cash and coins in the same actual amount. Not the case. And this is all somehow ((("legal"))) because jews lying to non-jews and deceiving them and robbing them is perfectly fine as far as jews are concerned.
However, although most banks, in most places, will allow you to exchange your fictional fiat currency notes and coins for physical fiat currency notes and coins, they will put a daily limit on how much of the first type of fiat currency you can exchange for the latter. Or, if you want to exchange large amounts, they'll make you schedule the withdrawal days to weeks in advance. And in some of the most pozzed and jewed jew world order shitholes, which are the 5 eyes countries, banks are starting to outright refuse to allow you to withdraw your cash (actually exchange your fictional cash and coins for physical ones) as steps are being taken to get rid of cash altogether there.
Without cash, bank runs aren't possible because there is no physical cash and coins you can request to have your fictional cash and coins exchanged for when you try and "withdraw" some of your cash you think exists in the bank vault. With bank runs being impossible, every non-central bank becomes its own central bank, with no limit on digital fiat currency creation. Especially combined with de facto or (in the case of the US, de jure since 2020) zero reserve requirements.

>>60690807 (OP)
No idea, but here is some quick spiritual stimmy, get it fast before janny sees my spammy
https://youtu.be/62vPHcoc9TE

>>60690807 (OP)
>>60690811
>>60690817
>>60690821
Capitalism is not monetary policy..
Capitalism is just private ownership..

>>60690807 (OP)
> capitalism is a jewish scam
… yes? I hope you didnt think otherwise anon. Infinate growth with finite resources as a concept is beyond retarded. And still you have dirtpoor amerimutts screaming how we need free markets when every market is a monopolity and rigges to the tits (crypto and stocks included)

No capital?

>>60690807 (OP)
Much like yourself, I to was also once a generic White college kid from the upper class suburbs

>>60690946
Resources aren’t limited.

>>60690905
>Capitalism is not monetary policy..
Yes. Capitalism is a for-financial-profit operated economy.
>Capitalism is just private ownership..
nut muh tru, genuine, honest & reel gapidalism©℗™(pbuh)!

The ol gish gallop

>>60690970
>You badmouth the jewish holy cow of capitalism, you must be a tranny.

>>60690962
>capital
This is a jewish weasel word. You must be a kike.

>>60690981
>Resources aren’t limited.
They are under capitalism, which is an anti-economic anti-system.

>>60691021
If you broke just say that commie

>>60691015
Jews invented communism you broke tranny

So what are some ways to get around this issue? Invest in btc?

Capitalism is the best system because resources are limited and alternatives lead ot some retard setting out prices which is worse than your jooz critique of capitalism.

>>60690807 (OP)

OY VEY! SHUT IT DOWN! THE GOYIM KNOW!

>>60691065
>If you disapprove of jewish scam it must be because you're not reaping unearned wealth from them.
Not broke.
>>60691138
>Jews invented communism you broke tranny
The thread is about capitalism (for-financial-profit economy).

>>60691203
>OY VEY! SHUT IT DOWN! THE GOYIM KNOW!
It really do be like that.

>>60690807 (OP)
>is a scam which runs on perpetual contraction and inflation of the money supply
But a core tenant of capitalism is that you can create growth through invention and efficiency. If you think the invention and dissemination of industrial assets should have zero impact on a currency then I don’t think there’s anything that can convince you capitalism was/is ever needed.

>geometric increase
Just say exponential

>>60690811
>currency sits in a bank necessitating inflation
Yes, this is correct and is the basis for modern monetary policy.

>imbalance between businesses and people
As it stands yes.

>imbalance is due to business spending and is made up by consumer credit
Wrong, go look at modern credit balances. Business borrows more money and makes more money, corporate bonds dwarf any sort of private debt. This is due to credit essentially, businesses can borrow money in ways individuals could never. Borrowing money is essential to making money in the modern system. Yes asymmetrical flows of money exist and are structural in economics, John Keynes figured this out a hundred years ago which is why governments use the debt based system they do today.

>>60690817
See point above, you’re correct that money has moved from being physical, money is predicated upon trust because we’ve reduced it further from the days where you “trusted” the purity of coins based on their stamp. This is because we are moving/have moved towards 1. A digital world where money need not physically exist and 2. A corporate world where decentralized corporate entities need to be able to issue their own currency. That currency is credit, a companies ability to pay back any given currency can be sometimes stronger than the currency itself is what the modern financialized economy has told us for the past 30 years.

>>60690821
Same as above, if you can’t grasp the benefits of a debt based economy NGMI.

>>60690807 (OP)
>Inflation, including due to scarcity - which forces people to spend their fiat savings into circulation, inflates the GDP. Deflation, including due to abundance, contracts the GDP.
I'm no genius or anything, but isn't this exactly why there's a different unit of measurement known as AD which takes these things into account?

On a long enough timeline, all money returns to gold. This fiat game always ends with gold

OY VEY!

>>60690807 (OP)
https://youtu.be/as41ugw1D6s

Best thread on biz rn

that's not capitalism you stupid nigger

>>60691240
based post, a debt based system allows for discipline and elasticity whereas a money-based system does not, recommended reading: the new lombard street.

Obviously, even though the debt-based system has benefits, this does mean you can't take action to profit off of the debt-based system (low interest credit, obtaining real/non-fiat assets). For the most part these assets should increase in fiat-denominated value as the fiat currency naturally loses purchasing power.

Fractional reserve banking and fiat currency are not intrinsic to capitalism. You've conflated the two.

>da jooooooz are the reason im a fat broke incel loser

>>60691240
>But a core tenant of capitalism is that you can create growth through invention and efficiency.
Hurr durr, it doesn't matter that banking is literally legalised fraud and capitalism is a scam reliant on banking (fraud) being legal because hardworking smart 3rd party people who are not party to the bank "loan" (actually credit) contract will increase real productivity to compensate for the inflation caused by the bank loan so that makes it fine that banking is legalised fraud.
Except it's impossible for real productivity to rise fast enough to do this.
>If you think the invention and dissemination of industrial assets should have zero impact on a currency then I don’t think there’s anything that can convince you capitalism was/is ever needed.
I think you're kike who tries to argue that 3rd parties pulling more than their fair share of the weight means you are allowed to legally commit fraud (banking) to compensate for their excess productivity.
>Just say exponential
It's geometric, not exponential.
>Yes, this is correct and is the basis for modern monetary policy.
Banking is legalised fraud.
>As it stands yes.
As it will continue to stand under capitalism.
>Business borrows more money and makes more money, corporate bonds dwarf any sort of private debt.
Doesn't change the fact that banking is legalised fraud.
>This is due to credit essentially, businesses can borrow money in ways individuals could never. Borrowing money is essential to making money in the modern system. Yes asymmetrical flows of money exist and are structural in economics, John Keynes figured this out a hundred years ago which is why governments use the debt based system they do today.
Funny. You think this statement changes the fact that banking is legalised fraud and capitalism is a jewish scam?

>>60691240
>See point above, you’re correct that money has moved from being physical, money is predicated upon trust because we’ve reduced it further from the days where you “trusted” the purity of coins based on their stamp.
How does this jewish pilpul change the fact that banking is legalised fraud again?
>This is because we are moving/have moved towards 1. A digital world where money need not physically exist
Money has not physically existed ever since electronic money transfers and electronic credit issuance has been a thing.
Still does not change the fact that banking is legalised fraud and capitalism is a scam.
>and 2. A corporate world where decentralized corporate entities need to be able to issue their own currency.
Sorry, who decided the scammers need to be able to scam? And why should I care what scam the scammers decided they need to perform?
This is all very confusing, kike. I can't follow your jewish pilpul at all.
>That currency is credit,
Again, how does this change the fact that banking is legalised fraud?
Oh right, it doesn't.
>a companies ability to pay back any given currency can be sometimes stronger than the currency itself is what the modern financialized economy has told us for the past 30 years.
Jewish pilpul. No one cares. Banking is still fraud. Capitalism is still a scam.

>>60691240
>Same as above, if you can’t grasp the benefits of a debt based economy NGMI.
The benefits are deindustrialisation, unemployment, underemployment, importing niggers and shitskins to replace White people, stagnating or decreasing standards of living, everything gradually becoming ever more shit, serving sizes and portion sizes constantly going down, everything gradually becoming a luxury for more and more people, utter and complete dependency on imports, native depopulation, technological stagnation or even regression, loss of generation knowledge and skills, White genocide and all the various other jewish blessings.

>>60691241
>I'm no genius or anything, but isn't this exactly why there's a different unit of measurement known as AD which takes these things into account?
Come again? I'm not familiar with all of the latest most sophisticated jewish pilpul.
>a different unit of measurement known as AD
Would you be so kind as to spell that out for me?

>>60691380
Based fellow understander. Money is a jewish (possibly Elohim?) invention and jewish weapon.
It's purpose is to STOP, PREVENT, LIMIT and THROTTLE real economic activity and to serve as a stealth (one layer of abstraction or extra step) rationing system to limit consumption and deny consumption and production of anything but what the jews want to have done.
Think of all of the people fired or never hired.
Think of all of the things which could be done but are not done or used to be done and able to be done in the past but are no longer doable now, even though there's better technology, more people etc.
Thanks to money, not thanks to lack of real world resources: energy, raw materials, labour.
Money, like the door in the hole in the wall, is what blocks and denies access (real economic activity).
The hole in the wall (which is the real economy) is what actually grants access through the wall (creates all of the actual real wealth and value). Money is the door in the hole in the wall and its only purpose is to prevent access (prevent real economic activity) from occurring 99.99% of the time.
Yet cargo cult midwits think money is wealth and money is what makes real economic activity possible.
It's like thinking a door is what lets you pass through the wall, instead of the hole in the wall which the door blocks 99.99% of the time. Blocking passage through or access through the hole in the wall is the very essence of the purpose and reason for being of the door. Because the hole in the wall is open and passable by default, so nothing additional is required to give it that property. Something additional is only required to limit and prevent the hole's ability to grant passage. And does so 99.99% of the time.
Just like money prevents or stops real economic activity through its absence or insufficient availability 99.99% of the time.
It grants jews control over what gets done with .01% of the potential of mankind.
Capitalism is the cargo cult of White people.

>>60691445
Jump right in, partner. The jewish and boomer cope and seethe is warm.
>>60691478
>that's not capitalism you stupid nigger
nut muh tru, genuine, honest & reel gapidalism©℗™(pbuh)!

>>60691492
>based post,
Another jew joins the chat.
>a debt based system allows for discipline and elasticity whereas a money-based system does not, recommended reading: the new lombard street.
Who cares what jews recommend? Where we're going there will be no monetary system. There will be a proof of work system. Which means that even jews will have to work.
Yes, this means (You) too.
>Obviously, even though the debt-based system has benefits,
It has none, except for jews.
>this does mean you can't take action to profit
Mathematically, financial profit does not exist. For someone to accrue financial profit either someone else has to incur a financial loss, costs need to be reduced (corners cut or outsourcing or offshoring) or the monetary units / legal tender required to mathematically enable financial profit need to be created and added to the system. However, this has to be done constantly and an ever accelerating rate.
>off of the debt-based system (low interest credit, obtaining real/non-fiat assets).
jews always try and get you to support their scams by offering to cut you in.
>For the most part these assets should increase in fiat-denominated value as the fiat currency naturally loses purchasing power.
The jew openly describes how his scam works, thinking that doing so means it's no longer fraud, since you implicitly voluntarily tolerate it once he explicitly told you that he's defrauding you and you take no action to divest yourself from his jewish fraud or prevent his jewish fraud.
talmud 101.
Yes, some of us know your ways, kike.

I saw a man who spoke the truth.
Then I saw jews floundering hard to pilpul his truth.
Aint reading all that, jews
Free Palestine.

>>60691297
>On a long enough timeline, all money returns to gold. This fiat game always ends with gold
On a long enough timeframe a species either abandons money or it goes extinct, stagnates or regresses technologically, culturally, industrially, demographically and genetically.

>>60691793
>I saw a man who spoke the truth.
>Then I saw jews floundering hard to pilpul his truth.
>Aint reading all that, jews
You can smell the unwashed yarmulkes and kippahs through the screen.
>Free Palestine.
Free Palestine. This one's got to sting.

Where's my fucking gold coin, jews?
My money in the bank, I want your 'bank' to give me my gold coins back, not worthless papers or 0 and 1s.
Can't do that? Then the system is a fraud.
Simple as.

Jizzsrael never had a right to exist btw.
Bacause jews never had ancient Israelite genes.
jews were never from middle east. Impostors.
Palestinians are the ones with ancient Israelite genes.
110 is the earth.

>>60690946
>… yes? I hope you didnt think otherwise anon.
Oh, I had a nervous breakdown, or the closest a man can come to something like that, when I watched the Money as Debt series on jewtube. It had just been released. It broke through the jewish firmware we are all flashed with since we're old enough to understand spoken words.
>Infinate growth
There is no infinite growth in capitalism. EXCEPT of the fictional yet spendable part of the money supply. Which is almost all of the money supply these days.
In fact, capitalism destroys the real economy and real output of real things. This is plainly obvious if you merely look at the G7 countries and their output of actual real things. From tons of steel to White babies being produced. Everything is going down down down down in quantity and quality.
Probably exactly as the jews intended.
Soon, very soon, the White race will have to choose between continuing to tongue jew anus and going extinct or giving up money, banks and capitalism (for-financial-profit operated economy).
This is the choice and it's coming. Very soon. Possibly before the end of the year.
>with finite resources as a concept is beyond retarded.
It's not. It is under capitalism. But not without capitalism.
You'll see. We can get free torque from gravitational attraction. And resources are all around us, everywhere.
It's only capitalism which causes and produces the scarcity. Which is intentional and artificial. It's so we constantly sputter along at a tiny fraction of our actual technological and industrial potential as a species. So we cannot rise up and challenge the Elohim.
>And still you have dirtpoor amerimutts screaming how we need free markets when every market is a monopolity and rigges to the tits (crypto and stocks included)
They're midwits. Not quite smart enough to see through the jewish firmware. Or they can't emotionally cope with the realisation that everything they thought they knew about how the world works... was a jewish lie.

>>60691865
>110 is the earth.
Unless 3I/ATLAS is the Elohim coming to reinforce the kikes.

Just gonna drop this:
Communism is a jewish scam too.
Karl Marx is a literal jew. So does his successors.
Anything jew touches turns to scam.
No poo no jew.
That is the first economic tenet of the new, scam-free world.

>>60691800
What civilization worthy of writing about didn’t use currency? Fucking retard

>>60692116
>What civilization worthy of writing about didn’t use currency? Fucking retard
Another seething, malding jew. Why built the pyramids, kike? Not jews, that's for damned sure, lmfao.
Keep seething. We're moving beyond money by the end of this decade.

>>60690807 (OP)
jewish board
jewish website
jewish markets
jewish planet
works on my jewish stocks

>>60690807 (OP)
If what you are saying is right, you should be able to prove it with differential equations. Go ahead, I am waiting.

>>60691673
>banking is legalized fraud
>capitalism is a scam
>real productivity doesn’t rise fast enough
Doesn’t refute the point. Again in a capitalist system you can invest into invention and efficiency to generate growth, spending money correctly is a genuinely valuable skill.

The rest of this post is just kvetching based off your same incorrect feelings.

>>60691685
>money has not been physical since EFT’s
Money hasn’t been physical since book entry accounting became a thing really.

More complaining and kvetching, not an argument

>>60691695
>the benefits are everything bad in the world, it’s all capitalisms fault!

1/10 post, you started off like you actually wanted to debate but instead you just want to spew /pol/ dogshit everywhere. Gross and re-evaluate your arguments, modern techno capitalism is garbage and you barely even listed a single valid reason why.

just a reminder that jew-hatred is deeply irrational and leftist. it's the last refuse of people that need to hate something because they're dissatisfied with their life. very few people who are well-off are actual antisemites, but many of them will traffic in it because there are so many poor, stupid people are unironically are.
jews are based. they are among the leading thinkers in our modern world. they are scientists, doctors, lawyers, bankers, and philosophers. israel is our only true ally in the middle east, is currently rooting out mudslime terrorism, and sent Iran's nuclear program back several years. they endured on the worst terror attacks in history; worse than 9-11 on a per capita basis, and since then jews have been unjustifiably harassed and assaulted for inexplicable reasons.
jew-hating is low IQ, it's deeply beta, and it's very popular here. this board is filled with very stupid people. it's almost a joke how dumb /biz/ is. the whole of 4chan is like this. /pol/ is a laughingstock, and they are anti-semite central. none of this is coincidence. someday, there could be real consequences for this kind of hatred.
try reading a book, maybe a book by a jew. Ayn Rand is an eloquent writer, i recommend Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, a resounding defense of free markets.

watch me get called a goy and worse for simply reminding everyone Jews are our allies, and they are good people. you needn't be a Zionist to recognize this. you don't have to agree with them on everything. they are a backwards religion from antiquity. but who they are as a people is far more important.

>>60690807 (OP)
They also need infinite jeets, negroes and chinese to have growth. Infinite white people leads to 1914.

>jew hating thread
>infographics start getting posted
it's so predictable

>>60692896
Yes, the thinly veiled Jew hate threads which are actually chock full of trash economics are a classic. /pol/ is unmitigated cancer full of Chinese bots confusing retards with FRED graphs.

>>60690905
>Capitalism is just private ownership..
Behold capitalism:

>>60691780
take your meds, deranged schizo retard

>>60691867
>>60691878
>>60691800
>>60691780
>>60691748
>>60691762

I unironically live in Israel, and as a not even Jewish according to the Halakha it's so fucking funny reading these unhinged effortposts by goy psychos.

Keep seething and coping retard, we will always own the bottom line. We also own the meds you're prescribed, please take them anon. They're good for you!

>>60692740
>If what you are saying is right, you should be able to prove it with differential equations. Go ahead, I am waiting.
Prove which of my statements with differential equations?

>>60692870
>Doesn’t refute the point.
You have no point. You're just a kvetching jew afraid of having to earn his consumption ethically, through contributing your labour and time to produce real wealth rather than numbers on a screen.
>Again in a capitalist system you can invest into invention
When has the bread become about investing into inventions?
It's about how banking is legalised fraud and capitalism is a jewish scam.
>and efficiency
Efficiency of what? In terms of what?
>to generate growth,
Growth of the money supply, nothing else.
>spending money correctly is a genuinely valuable skill.
This bread isn't about spending or money or not. It's about how banking is legalised fraud, capitalism is a jewish scam and the purpose of money is as a rationing system and a way to prevent, deny, stop, destroy, reduce or throttle real economic activity. By imposing the artificial, arbitrary requirement that any economic activity must be performed for money and/or with the purpose of accruing more money than it cost to perform the activity. Which obviously requires either that someone else lose money or that more new money be constantly created and introduced into circulation. Which causes inflation of the money supply which reduces its purchasing power for everyone, even 3rd parties who are not included in the bank "loan" contract whereby the new money is created.
>The rest of this post is just kvetching based off your same incorrect feelings.
The capitalism shilling jew claims I kvetch by pointing out how capitalism is a scam which is predicated on and runs on the legalised fraud of banking (introducing fictional amounts of a given underlying asset into circulation as a "loan" and charging interest on it by pretending that it's the actual real underlying asset which was "lent" and deceiving the whole of society that these fictional amounts of underlying asset are actually real). The only way you can disagree that banking is fraud is if you're retarded or dishonest.

>>60692886
>just a reminder that jew-hatred is deeply irrational and leftist. it's the last refuse of people that need to hate something because they're dissatisfied with their life. very few people who are well-off are actual antisemites, but many of them will traffic in it because there are so many poor, stupid people are unironically are.
>jews are based. they are among the leading thinkers in our modern world. they are scientists, doctors, lawyers, bankers, and philosophers. israel is our only true ally in the middle east, is currently rooting out mudslime terrorism, and sent Iran's nuclear program back several years. they endured on the worst terror attacks in history; worse than 9-11 on a per capita basis, and since then jews have been unjustifiably harassed and assaulted for inexplicable reasons.
>jew-hating is low IQ, it's deeply beta, and it's very popular here. this board is filled with very stupid people. it's almost a joke how dumb /biz/ is. the whole of 4chan is like this. /pol/ is a laughingstock, and they are anti-semite central. none of this is coincidence. someday, there could be real consequences for this kind of hatred.
>try reading a book, maybe a book by a jew. Ayn Rand is an eloquent writer, i recommend Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, a resounding defense of free markets.
>watch me get called a goy and worse for simply reminding everyone Jews are our allies, and they are good people. you needn't be a Zionist to recognize this. you don't have to agree with them on everything. they are a backwards religion from antiquity. but who they are as a people is far more important.
jewish lolbertarian detected.

>>60692896
>jew hating thread
Not my fault that truth is highly antisemitic.
>infographics start getting posted
Oh noes, a goy is trying to teach his fellow goyim how jewish scams work.
>it's so predictable
The jewish kvetching about their scams being exposed, yes.

>>60693103
>take your meds, deranged schizo retard
My meds is the cope and seethe of jews witnessing their scams getting exposed and laid bare.

>>60693121
>I unironically live in Israel,
Ok.
>and as a not even Jewish
Sure thing, kike.
>according to the Halakha
No one cares.
>it's so fucking funny reading these unhinged effortposts by goy psychos.
Is it though?
>Keep seething and coping retard, we will always own the bottom line.
Who's seething? I'm enjoying all the (You)s.
>We also own the meds you're prescribed, please take them anon.
Don't take meds. Didn't take the jewish poison injections either. Only your supporters and good goy golems took them.
>They're good for you!
Always do the opposite of what jews tell you to.
I must say it's intriguing to me that /biz/ doesn't show poster country flags. I wonder why that is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0

this video ruined my perception of money 10 years ago
then you add the jewish puzzle piece to it and it all makes sense

>>60693171
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0
I believe I've watched this before but don't remember the main takeways. I'm not interested in the abstraction and obfuscation layers or technical and nomenclature minutiae of the details of the jewish scam. All I need to know is that banking (all of it, NOT JUST central banks) is legalised fraud.
I can't be bothered to listen to the video again but if he doesn't clearly state that ALL of banking is inherently fraudulent then he's controlled opposition/limited hangout.
>this video ruined my perception of money 10 years ago
The Money as Debt series did that to me, way earlier. Gave me something close to a nervous breakdown only matched by the jewish poison injection genocide of the White race of 2020-present. I mean, "vacseens" (literally cowcines, something you give the cattle) have always been poison but the jewish poison injections of 2020-present are orders of magnitude more lethal and debilitating.
>then you add the jewish puzzle piece to it and it all makes sense
It does, doesn't it? Then all the kvetching whenever you point out how banking is legalised fraud and how capitalism is a jewish ponzi scheme (largest of all ponzies) and it couldn't be more obvious (((who))) is behind it all.

When will people learn to not speak with jews?
Jews does not communicate the same way as you and I.
Humans communicate by arranging their words to let the listeners get the message they had in mind.
Jews however, use words to twist, obfuscate, lie, pervert, and transform whatever topics at hand, with the intention to cause chaos, so jews can fuck humans over in their confusion. They never intended to communicate anything honest. They always had this intention in mind, because they are the enemy of humanity, these throwback neanderthals from Khazar hate humans.
Talking with them is an exercise of futility. If you spend 2 minutes to speak or read anything written by them, that's 2 minutes of your life wasted away for absolutely nothing.
Just drop your truth nuke, then peace out and let them kvetch.

Do not reason with evil. Demons should be banished, not reasoned with.
From river to sea, Palestine and the world will be free.

>>60693555
>dude forget that Jewish scam, try out this Jewish scam

>>60690807 (OP)
very based post OP. it's a fucking scam and it's extremely alarming how, in particular, we have been psyopped into e.g. putting all of our eggs into the 401k basket.

I got rich by buying silver.

>>60693303
Understandable. One thing to note is that he's a goldmaxi, so he's on the same side for a different reason

The video however goes over the money process very comprehensively without any minutiae

I would strongly recommend watching it in full simply to strengthen your anti (((banker))) and ponzi argument

>>60693121
איזה גבר אתה נודר

>>60693149
/pol/ tard realizes he cant debate in good faith and breaks down into completely illogical name calling, classic!

>>60693579
>/pol/ tard realizes he cant debate in good faith and breaks down into completely illogical name calling, classic!
Which of my statements in my first 4 (four) posts of this bread do you disagree wth?

>>60693555
>When will people learn to not speak with jews?
I need to demolish their lies and cope. It's necessary work for the uniformed spectator.

>>60693303
Just like normal short-term Ponzi schemes, once you ascertain the qualities that define it as a scam, there's zero need to engage or trying to understand the minutae and the trivias conjured up by the scammers. You just terminate their operation and bring the jews to justice.
Same as our current jewish debt-based-monetary system (which is just really 'usury') AKA Ponzi scheme. It's designed from the ground up to implode after every 80 years or so. Make sure to deal with the scammers, so they cannot restart the scam in a new place.
For now, spread the awareness far and wide, so the net will be wide enough to catch every single one of these enemy of humanity.

>>60693620
The statements where you entirely ignore points you disagree with and call me a kike and then move to statements where you disingenuously pretend once again you actually do want to have a high level debate and present the exact same already acknowledged thesis. There’s no actual discussion here, there’s you cherry picking lines that let you alliterate on your already predetermined course of discussion you’re unwilling to waver from. So instead I’ll just call you a /pol/ tard and make fun of you because you’re brain damaged from rage bait.

>>60693643
You talk like a r*dditor

>>60693645
Not an argument!

>>60693650
It's the only argument I need
>waaahh I got called a kile waaahhh

>>60693643
>The statements where you entirely ignore points you disagree with and call me a kike and then move to statements where you disingenuously pretend once again you actually do want to have a high level debate and present the exact same already acknowledged thesis.
Again, can you enumerate exactly which points, of my 4 initial posts in this bread, you disagree with?
>There’s no actual discussion here,
There is discussion from my end. I always answer each point in part.
There is only seethe and cope and coom-plaining from your end. And the end of the other pro-capitalism, pro-banking shills.
>there’s you cherry picking lines that let you alliterate on your already predetermined course of discussion you’re unwilling to waver from.
Why not just say what you disagree with, exactly, though?
>So instead I’ll just call you a /pol/ tard
Guilty as charged.
>and make fun of you because you’re brain damaged from rage bait.
Ok.

>>60693645
Rome lives rent free in his head, confirmed kike.

>>60693668
Calling me a kike for not agreeing banking is the scam you say it is, isn’t a response. If you want to have a discussion you will go back and you will rewrite your response to elucidate your actual counter arguments.

>>60693668
You are being distracted by the jews to 'prove yourself', instead of focusing your effort to expose the jewish economical crimes.
You fell for their pilpul. They never intended to discuss or debate with you in the first place. They just want to distract you from the core issues. They twist your words and goad you into pointless back and forth to waste your time.
You thought you are 'winning' but in reality you're just being dragged into endless pilpul.
All the 'noninformed audience' will see is you floundering around cluelessly trying to navigate jewish pilpul that they dish out one after another out of their ass.
This is why I told you to stop engaging with jews.
Return to spreading redpill. Drop your truth and ignore the jews, their scams will unravel on their own.
For thousands of years, jewish disease had never once been resolved by reasoning with them.

>>60693704
>you will go back and you will rewrite your response
Fuck zionism
Fuck the talmud

>>60693704
>Calling me a kike for not agreeing banking is the scam you say it is, isn’t a response.
Would I go to jail if I tried to do what banks do? (yes/no)
No jewish pilpul please.
>If you want to have a discussion you will go back and you will rewrite your response to elucidate your actual counter arguments.
I'm all about actual arguments. You just ignore them.

>>60693714
I can't help myself.

>>60690807 (OP)
I learnt this in 2007 zoom zoom.

>>60693714
>>60693717
>>60693727
>drop redpills
GOOD IDEA
CHINESE SLAVERS AND SAUDI RELIGIOUS FASCISTS WANT YOU TO THINK GOLD IS HARD MONEY BECAUSE THEY CAN’T COMPETE IN AN ECONOMY THAT DOESN'T VALUE SLAVE LABOR AND OIL CONSUMPTION LIKE THE HISTORIC COMMODITY BACKED CURRENCIES BASED ON MASS MINERAL STRIPING. GET WOKE TODAY AND TELL YOUR LOCAL /POL/ CHANG BOT ESPOUSING THE FED HATES AMERICA TO GO FUCK THEMSELVES

>>60691138
and? capitalism is jewish too

>>60691793
based
free palestine

>>60690807 (OP)
>Capitalism is a scam
>Proceeds to describe centralized socialist monetary policy

>>60691613
....yes?

>>60693809
>GOOD IDEA
>CHINESE SLAVERS AND SAUDI RELIGIOUS FASCISTS WANT YOU TO THINK GOLD IS HARD MONEY BECAUSE THEY CAN’T COMPETE IN AN ECONOMY THAT DOESN'T VALUE SLAVE LABOR AND OIL CONSUMPTION LIKE THE HISTORIC COMMODITY BACKED CURRENCIES BASED ON MASS MINERAL STRIPING. GET WOKE TODAY AND TELL YOUR LOCAL /POL/ CHANG BOT ESPOUSING THE FED HATES AMERICA TO GO FUCK THEMSELVES
Precious metal backing is just a confidence trick to trick the goyim to accepting resetting the fiat currency/banking/capitalism scam once it's run out its life cycle and it's dying.
It works because White people don't pass down generation knowledge and wisdom anymore. Parents don't educate their kids about jewish lies and scams. Neither did their parents teach them or their grandparents teach their parents.
The precious metal "backing" does NOT prevent banks from fraudulently issuing fictional amounts of underlying precious metal backing by pretending to lend underlying precious metal backing.
Banks always create fictional amounts of the underlying asset by pretending to lend the underlying asset to willing borrowers but, in actual fact, lending them fictional amounts of underlying asset with a supposed right to redeem their claim to said underlying asset for said underlying asset. As long as reserves of the underlying asset last, of course. hehe.
This is how the jews trick non-jews to accept resetting of the jewish scam of currency/banking/capitalism. By lying to them that the new fiat currency is not a fiat currency and is different from the old, dying fiat currency, because it's precious metal backed. As if that prevents banking from issuing more currency than there is backing for at the official backing/redemption rate. And always omitting that all fiat currencies start out as being precious metal backed. The idea being that, by the time they need to replace the current fiat currency with a new one, the non-jews will have forgotten about this so will fall for the same trick again.

Rather than engaging with low caste dalit-tier jews that will be sacrificed to moloch in the next pogroms by the elite jews who will be jumping ship to Chyna after destroying JewSA, lets see what a top jew says about money in picrel:

>>60693908
Look at the absolute size of that nose on him.

>>60693908
Yes. And "gold backed" is credit as well. You'd think this would be obvious.

>>60692925

Yes, there are no hierarchies in Soviet Union, Mao's China or North Korea.

>>60693917
Correct. Either you get a gold/silver coin (money) for your work that you can hold in your hand, or you have been scammed with false promise.

>>60693908
>top jew says about money in picrel
JP Morgan wasn't a jew, even though he acted like one.

>>60693903
>backing
That's the key word. Silver is money.

>>60694217
The current 'jews' in jizzrael aren't related to the Children of Israel either, they are impostors in all sense of words, but they sure belief and acted like those baby-raping human-sacrificing foreskin-munching demon-worshipping folks that their own god smite repeatedly throughout history, so what makes them different from those evil jews?

If you act like a jew, think like a jew, smell like a jew, then you are a jew, simple as.

>>60694245
>That's the key word. Silver is money.
If you allow banking you will always have ((("backing"))). Which enables fictional backing and fictional legal tender creation. Which causes inflation, deindustrialisation, outsourcing/offshoring and societal decline.
However, even if you do not allow fictional legal tender creation (no banking whatsoever), you still have the other problems of societies with monetary systems:
1. real economic activity not performed due to lack of or insufficient funds.
2. real economic activity not performed due to lack of or insufficient financial profitability.
3. parasitism paid for by people gaming the monetary system to gain monetary units / legal tender amount not in exchange for actual real labour or contributions to the social order.
Moreover, financial profits cannot exist without perpetual geometric growth of the supply of legal tender. Which is not possible except by allowing fictional legal tender to be created and spent as if it existed, and at an ever accelerating rate.
Which causes perpetual inflation which causes shrinkflation, enshittification, outsourcing, offshoring, deindustrialization, dependency on imports etc.
The only way forward is to move past money and to a proof of work system.
People aren't ready to accept this yet. They don't even understand it.
They hate me because I am a messenger and harbinger of what is to come.

>ECP
>EKP
>LTV is Bunk
>Hierarchies Are natural and good
>Jews are not better than you, you are worse than jews commie kun
On a /his/ note;
>US, britain, france and Germany are leftist as per Hamilton/libs, Constitutionalism/libs,Absolutism/jacobins,Nationalism/socalists, their failures are due to their leftism
>HRE, smuggler Britain and specifically after industrial revolution and before aristorcats allied with commies to make modern tories&labor are examples of rw/capitalist societies,latter to a greater extent
>Literally genocide judeo-bolsheviks and their ilk before 1905 and Russia turns to a super America tier economy

>>60690807 (OP)
I don't know about capitalism, but fiat printing and bonds sure seem to be a scam, that lets governments rob fiat savers, while inflating the national debt.

>>60694906
>ECP
What's that?
>EKP
What's that?
>LTV is Bunk
Heh. Ok. Kikes hate labour and the LTV of value because they hate work and having to work to earn their living.
>Hierarchies Are natural and good
Ok.
>Jews are not better than you,
I know.
>you are worse than jews commie kun
I'm commie kun? What's a commie?
>On a /his/ note;
What's a /his/?
>US, britain, france and Germany are leftist as per Hamilton/libs, Constitutionalism/libs,Absolutism/jacobins,Nationalism/socalists, their failures are due to their leftism
I don't care about labels.
>HRE, smuggler Britain and specifically after industrial revolution and before aristorcats allied with commies to make modern tories&labor are examples of rw/capitalist societies,latter to a greater extent
You fail to understand that capitalism, during the expansion phase, is different from capitalism in the saturation stage.
When you have room to expand in, technology is advancing in leaps and bounds and improving real productivity (that which has nothing to do with monetary units) is improving by orders of magnitude over decades and the population growth is geometric as well, you can get away with having your society operate on the capitalist model and mistakenly think it's a workable long term model.
LMFAO
>Literally genocide judeo-bolsheviks and their ilk before 1905 and Russia turns to a super America tier economy
You think an economy is (mostly fictional) monetary units moving around.