Do whiskey companies have a valid reason for releasing whiskeys under 100 proof (no) or are they just ripping off the consumer by doing so (yes)?
Why do high-rye bourbons taste so much better than other bourbons?
What is the optimal cork type for whiskey, and why is it a BIG WHITE CORK?

>>21403755 (OP)
STOP and EXPLAIN to me why drinking JACK DANIEL's GENTLEMAN JACK is a bad whisky.

>>21403762
>80 proof
Into the trash it goes.
>double mellowed
So, double boringed.

>>21403791
But I like it, even more than some meme good whiskeys. (e.g. four roses single malt).
Are there any ck-approved whiskeys I can try instead?

>>21403819
Heavily peated single malt cask proof neat. Pour everything else down the toilet where it belongs

>>21403819
>four roses single malt
u wot m8

>>21403823
I'm thinking about buying a bottle of ardbeg uigedail, but the price point is high. Is it worth $95?

>>21403823
I only care about studies and evidence. Unless you demonstrate that a particular whiskey is better in a statistically significant way compared to others in a blind taste test which is adequately powered, then I think your gay whiskey is as good as a Red Label.
All wines are the same as proven beyond reasonable doubt in blind taste tests, and likely the same holds true for whiskey. You just buy into gay buzzwords ("single malt", "heavily peated"). Literal "it's toasted" marketing slop.

>>21403834
>All wines are the same
Yes, a Riesling is totally the same as a 20 year Tawny Porto.
Baka.

>>21403840
>Yes, a Riesling is totally the same as a 20 year Tawny Porto.
Expert wine tasters cannot tell the difference between a $2k wine and a $18 wine. Why would whiskey be different? Explain it to me if you're so smart.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/23/couple-mistakenly-served-2000-wine-at-nyc-restaurant/
https://wine-economics.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Vol.3-No.1-2008-Evidence-from-a-Large-Sample-of-Blind-Tastings.pdf

>>21403847
So are you claiming that a Riesling is the same as a 20 year Tawny Porto, yes or no?

QUICK!!!!

POST YOUR FAVORITE LOCAL BRAND

>>21403854
It is literally exactly the same. If I put you and 1000 other idiots in a blind taste test, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

>>21403866
>a light white wine is exactly the same as a heavy, rich fortified red wine
Ah, I see you are a complete idiot whose opinion can be safely disregarded.
gg nr

>>21403870
>I see you are a complete idiot whose opinion can be safely disregarded
This was obvious from his first post, which I didn’t even bother replying to

>>21403834
There are different styles of whiskey just like there are different styles of wine. A bourbon tastes different than a scotch. And within that, a peated scotch is going to taste different than a non-peated scotch which will taste different depending on how much sherry influence it has, etc.. But once you get past those broader styles you do get diminishing returns of difference IMO. Drink whatever you like, however you like it. Also Red Label is a perfectly fine scotch.

When distilling your own liquor, should it come out high proof or do you have to distill it several times?

>>21404411
>There are different styles of whiskey just like there are different styles of wine. A bourbon tastes different than a scotch. And within that, a peated scotch is going to taste different than a non-peated scotch which will taste different depending on how much sherry influence it has, etc.. But once you get past those broader styles you do get diminishing returns of difference IMO. Drink whatever you like, however you like it.
Yeah.
>Also Red Label is a perfectly fine scotch.
Nah.

>>21403834
>whiskey
Retardation discarded

>>21403755 (OP)
high rye hides the shitty tastes of the poor quality GMO corn cultivar

>>21403830
No, all Scotch is over-priced.
Get it anyway.

>>21403860

>>21405308
Wow!

>>21405308
Price? Shipping?

>>21405308
>Whisky has a "best before" date on the package

Just poured myself 3 fingers of Glenfiddich 19

It's weirdly smooth on the body, but has quite a sharp finish.

>>21405308
Looks like something teenagers would pour into the gas tank for emergency fuel in the 80s.

Why bother drinking whisky when equal quality rum is available for half the price?

>>21405981
Rum is for niggers

>>21405981
Because I like how whiskey tastes compared to rum.

>>21405984
This

>>21405710
>doesn't describe any specific flavors
>just says it's smooth and sharp
NPC detected.

>>21405981
I don't like the way rum tastes.

>>21405981
I dont know shit about rum. What are the good bottles I should be looking for at this "half price"?

>glenfiddich
You might as well just drink bourbon at that point

>>21406063
>you like thing I don't like therefore bad neener neener

>>21403755 (OP)
Got a chance to wet my beak tonight on some Mortlach 16 “Distillers Dram” .. tastes like a slightly spicier earthier Glenfarclas with plenty of fruit on the arrival and tannin on the finish .. usually avoid sherry finish offerings in the summer heat but this one’s not too sweet for that to be an issue

>>21406024
I'm not looking to write a real review here, it has a nice sweetness sorta vanilla on the front very rounded and ends on a nice sharp spice note

The only spirit I like other than whiskey is gin (cocktails only). There are a few rum cocktails I'd like to try but they need mint leaves which is a pain to get for some reason, so I don't bother.

>>21406024
>NOOOO you have to write a heckin quirky 5 paragraph review about the very specific notes you hallcuinated while high on ethanol vapors and give it a score out of 100 just like the obese transbian atheists on r/Scotch!

>>21406095
>It opens with a vague taste of toasted paper, followed by an almost ghostly trace of shoe polish. This fades into a note reminiscent of burnt bandaids wrapped in fresh lawn clippings. A whisp of smoke floats throughout, along with a trace of crushed strawberries, snakefruit, lebkuchen, and Dr. Pepper. Delicious.

I 'member when I first got into scotch I tried Famous Grouse and I thought it was disgusting and smelled like vomit and eventually poured it out. Bought another bottle today several years later and it's a tasty sherried blend. Very nice I like it. Funny how tastes change once you get used to something.

What should I try?

>>21406527
Anyway, I've been on a blended scotch kick lately (tired of spending money on single malts that I don't think I really appreciate), so here are some thoughts on what I've tried.

>Peated
JW Red vs JW Black: Black is better (surprise). JW Red is fine, though.
>Unpeated Round 1
Dewar's White Label vs Dewar's 12: The 12 is better (surprise). But again White Label is fine. JW Red and Dewar's White are solid choices for highballs or other cocktails if you can't afford the upgrade to Black/12.
>Unpeated Round 2
Chivas 12 vs Dewar's 12: I don't think these are particularly different. Dewar's is cheaper. Both are fine. Might be more interesting to compare their 18 year bottles should I get the opportunity.
>Sherried
Only tried Famous Grouse so far and I like it.
>Blended malt
Recently I've only had Monkey Shoulder and I am not particularly fond of it. Maybe I like the influence of grain spirits on scotch. Need to try more in this category.

>>21406635
None

>>21406642
I tried the Kilchoman Batch Strength, Ardbeg BizarreBQ, Ardbeg Hypernova, and Teeling Blackpitts (not in the pic).
All delicious and only one tasted like bandaids.

>>21406641
JW Green label is the best affordable blended malt.

>>21406635
Why islay only?

It has its place but it wouldn't be my first choice at a bar offering a large selection of rare whisky.

Blended scotch: for people who hate flavor and distinctive character.

>>21407136
You're like a craft beer fag that whines when people don't like IPAs.

>>21407136
Maybe cheap blends, but you're retarded if you think ALL blends are flavorless or lacking in a distinctive character.

More than likely you've formed an opinion on blends before you even taste it and have biased yourself against enjoying it even if in a blind tasting you would've liked it.

It happens all the time in public whiskey blinds, I love watching whisky snobs rate a blend in their top 3 out of 6+ whiskeys then when they find out its a blend they go back and taste it and SWEAR up and down "Oh now that I'm tasting it again it has a distinct off note I often taste from blends". Which is just cope to cover up their retardation.

>can't drink a single drop ever again in my entire life if I want to live to 30
AAAHHHHH!!!! FFFUCK!!! AAAAAAAHHHHHHHAHAHAHAAAA WWWHY GOD WHY!!!

>>21405655
the expiration date is for the plastic container

>>21407136
I hear feces has a very strong, distinctive flavor. Have you tried that?

>>21407312
How did you get to that point?

>>21407298
They literally have less distinctive character than single malts by definition.
The more whiskies you blend, the more the distinctive characters of each whisky gets blended away.

>>21407318
Apparently it can very rarely be caused by viruses, with COVID for some reason causing it at a much higher rate than normal. That's how I got it. Got sick, got acute pancreatitis afterwards, go to the hospital to fix that up, left with chronic pancreatitis.
The entire hospital visit I had several dozen doctors ask me what you're asking now, which is whether I'm an alcoholic. No. No abuse whatsoever. I had a bottle of macallan 18 I would sip a couple ounces of every Friday. Now I can never drink again. The pit of despair this leaves hurts worse than my failing organ

>>21407333
It's almost like the blend itself can have a distinctive character you wont get from any individual single malt.

Shocking, I know.

>>21407343
Wrong. New flavors aren't created. Trained palates can pick out the parts of each blend. Those parts are simply diluted - their characters diluted.

The very best blended Scotches are inferior to the sum of their parts, and the worst (Johnnie Walker, etc.) are utter garbage that aren't even suitable for homeless drunks.

>>21407344

>>21407052
I love Islay and don’t find a lot of those bottles here. They had a much larger selection in addition to Islay.

>>21407276
Yes

>>21407298
>More than likely you've formed an opinion on blends before you even taste it and have biased yourself against enjoying it even if in a blind tasting you would've liked it
You’re probably right but I don’t care

>>21407314
I enjoy a few colognes with musks that have notes of slight fecal characteristics. I also eat ass.
This might explain a lot.

>>21407341
Not even a fucking drop? Not even a sip enough to coat your tongue? How about tasting then spitting?
Fuck, I’m angry just from reading your post and feel bad for you anon :(

>I like blended scotch!
Just say you're poor.

>>21407441
None. I've had my last drink and I didn't even know it was the last. I'm 25. I was able to drink for 3 years of my life total.

>>21407445
Eh bullshit. A sip once a week won’t literally kill you.

>>21406635
Springbank 10 $42? Is this in monopoly (canadian) money?

>>21407572
It's bar pricing
There are 20 drams per bottle, so they're milking it, but sprinbank is hard to source in the US, so I can't blame them too much.

>>21407580
Spring bank 10 20 drams x $42 = $840 for a $100 bottle.
This is why I don't drink in bars, unless work is covering the tab.

>>21407443
"Scotch is for wealthy people" is a good joke.

>>21407715
Just like wine.

At a restaurant a $20-30 bottle of wine is $80+ (200-400% markup) but a $120 bottle of wine is probably only $180-200 (50-70% markup)

>>21407717
Was it always Scotch is for wealthy people? I always thought it was more White Collar drink Scotch while blue collar drink Bourbon.

>>21407749
Tons of cheap scotch gets produced and you can buy it anywhere. Anyone can drink scotch if they want to. But yes you do have a snob culture surrounding single malts that tries to shame people for drinking anything cheaper. I really do think the situation is similar to craft beer.

>>21406052
I have personally enjoyed everything I have tried by Foursquare.

>>21407136
>Blended scotch: for people who hate flavor
This is ridiculous to say, as if blends don't have flavor and taste like nothing. You're a fucking idiot.
>and [hate] distinctive character.
More like don't care. I don't prioritize novelty and I don't feel like I constantly have to find new tastes. I want things to reliably have certain, more "normal" tastes rather than taste strange and unusual. I don't like treating whisky like it's wine and trying to suss out different notes from it. Spending the extra money on single malts doesn't have a benefit for me. I assume the response to this will be something like
>Well why do you drink scotch?
I drink it because it tastes good and I like it.

>>21407715
>This is why I don't drink in bars
No shit, did you really think $12 for Jack and coke was a good deal?

>>21407900
If I cant easily source and purchase jack and coke for cheaper elsewhere, then yes

>>21405175
why have corn or wheat in the mashbill at all?

It's been almost half a year bros... Please bring back my bourbon to Ontario...

>>21408102
Nah, i'm keeping it.

>>21406635
>1 oz of Bunnahabhain 12 is $13
fuck em. if you are being treated Springbank > Longrow > Rosebank

>>21405308
6 PM

>>21407895
>I want things to reliably have certain, more "normal" tastes rather than taste strange and unusual.
t.NPC

>>21408105
Thought about trying the Kilkerran Heavily Peated, but I already posted my choices here >>21406657

>>21408280
the one I have(batch 5 Peat in Progress) is less peated than Springbank 10 and has a delectable creme brulee note on the nose. palate is still relatively smoky without the medicinal characteristics of most heavily peated Islay bottlings. iirc the standard Kilkerran 12 I have is very similar in the terms of the overall peat presence(more coconut and chocolate with subtle under ripe melon/over ripe banana comparatively).

>>21407341
fauxvid isnt real, retard

>>21408077
corn? bourbon
wheat? sweet

>>21408455
I don't remember what batch I had of Kilkerran Heavily Peated, but mine was way more peaty than Springbank 10 - equally if not more peaty than Longrow. It was also funky as fuck. I definitely prefer Longrow and Springbank to the batch I had - the Campbeltown funk was a bit too strong in the batch I had.

>>21409729
imo the funk was only detectable if the slight cheesecake note is accurate. my 2016 Victoriana had a very pronounced cheesecake character. my Ledaig 18 has an almost Basque cheesecake note.

I thìnk my iver is failing, I get drunk quite fast and I stay drunk forever, like the whole next day I am still drunk.

>>21409935
It sounds like there's quite a lot of variation between batches.

>>21403823
le rugged gentleman's whisky

>>21410111
I unironically just like the way it tastes.

>>21410124
think back to your past to why you have led your palate astray

>>21410138
The first Scotch I ever tried was Laphroaig 10 in college. I loved it.
I've always loved smoky flavors. Used to add Liquid Smoke to chili when I was a kid - got into smoked porter in college before I got into peated Scotches.
Smoke is yummy.
Cask strength is yummier because it's not diluted.
Simple as.

>>21409935
>my Ledaig 18 has an almost Basque cheesecake note
Been wanting to try this, can only get the 10 and I fucking loved it

>>21410146
Agreed, also love the smell. A lot of the colognes I go towards have smoke notes, burning wood/leaves, gasoline, etc.

whiskey river take my miiiiiiind

>>21405981
Based and colonial-pilled

>>21407051
Green and Black are both great for the price. Green can be hard to find though.

>>21407515
Yes but the discomfort it brings may not be worth it

Johnnie Walker is the Hershey's chocolate of whisky: tastes like vomit.

>>21411594
>t. Diageo competitor shill

I got to try a bottle of The Belvanie French Oak at a whiskey tasting. It was soo good and I wish it wasn't $190

>>21411430
That Bardstown is whiskino.

>>21412117
The Balvenie is a entry level scotch that's priced like The Macallan.

>>21411430
based and lower middle classpilled

>>21412314
>It doesn't taste like burnt band-aids therefore it's for n00bs unlike me ;)

>>21403755 (OP)
Man, I got so sick off that shit in my twenties. It was Old Grandad 114, amaretto liquor, and two maraschino cherries with a splash of bitters. Basically almost gave myself alcohol poisoning from one night of those.

>>21413378
It doesn't really taste like anything.

>>21413404
Meaningless retard criticism

>>21413395
yea dont blame the OGD

>>21413410
>meaningless
I'm sorry about your poor reading comprehension.

>>21413424
It's meaningless because it says nothing about the whiskey and only says you have the palate of a child who's incapable of interacting with flavors that aren't bold. Basically you're like a kid who says his food doesn't taste good without ketchup on it.

>>21413437
>because it says nothing about the whiskey
It clearly implies that it is relatively flavorless compared to many whiskies.

>>21413445
>Mommy where's my ketchup! Mommy!!

>>21413454
Quality rhetoric.

>>21405308
It's an Indian-style blended whisky, so expect it to be more like rum since they add sugarcane spirit to cheap blends. The best part is that this isn't 80 proof trash since India has the minimum ABV for liquor to be above 42%.

>>21414053
>proofwhore defending african plasitc jug whiskey
You are a joke

opened two more bottles since the last thread
>Knob Creek 12y
absolutely top-tier for the price, very nice baking spices and vanilla with a bit of that Beam peanut note
>Ben Holladay BiB Soft Red Wheat
honestly this one was a bit of a letdown on the first pour, I wasn't really getting anything interesting or unique, maybe a bit more fruit than the KC but other wise just...good

>>21414053
If you honestly think being 42% instead of 40% is what saves that whiskey, you're a moron.

>>21414216
big mistake looking for flavor with a filler grain like wheat.

>>21403755 (OP)
I’m so glad this /ck/ attention whore has been banned!

What whiskey will you be sipping while he leaves us all alone?

>>21414224
I admit that I feel for the meme on this one, I was out of town and hadn't seen it in my area so I wanted to try it. Taters were wrong on this one unless it magically opens up after a neck pour. I paid almost the exact same for it as the KC12 and it got absolutely mogged

>>21414216
Try the Milam and Greene BiB

>>21414233
it only takes one bad buy to make you more careful with spending impulses.

>>21414296
it wasn't "bad," just overrated, and it wasn't an impulse, I don't buy a new bottle until I finish one

>>21414221
>>21414066
That was a joke. This is worse than the American blended whiskey that is mostly NGS since it hasv traces of real whiskey.

Fuck alcohol. This is the second time I've gotten into a binge drinking fiasco to where I get the shakes. I'm getting myself off. Online AA meetings once I get low enough. God in heaven please heal me with your light that I may never touch another drop after this such that I walk your path beside me and do thy bidding.

I have two alcoholics in my family yet I have never come even remotely close to alcoholism and simply have a single dram once every few days.
lol just don't drink a lot.
Just don't do it.

>>21415535
That's me. I have a dram every few days at most.

My brother on the other hand, will finish a bottle within a day or two at most.

>>21415535
For me, the danger is buying either the cheaper shit or the “smooth easy drinking” shit. I’ll chug that shit down very fast.
But if I get the expensive shit or the “cask strength” flavor bomb shit, I end up really taking my time with it and savoring it as much as possible.

>>21414371
Good luck, anon.

>>21415896
>For me, the danger is buying bad whiskey
lol just don't buy bad whiskey.
Just don't do it.

Once you get withdraw systoms it's over. Every consecutive binge will just make it worse each time, there is no going back once you get it. Even just one day drinking the withdrawal are starting again.

>whiskey is smooth

>>21414233
>Taters
go back to r/whiskey

>>21417969
Are you implying that there is a difference between here and there?

>>21418005
yes, both people here and there have no friends, but people here have no money

Food? Cooking?

>>21403762
because old no. 7 is better

>>21403830
it's worth it. a few years back all scotch increased in price because of tariffs but that one didn't. that bottle is going to blow your mind

>>21406527
sherried stuff can taste sulfuric and if you aren't familiar to it it can taste vile

>>21406641
grand old parr is a blend in that price range that is often overlooked. it's smoky, sweet, and very sippable

if you get some money and want to try a sherried single malt get some glendronach

>>21418844
>sherried stuff can taste sulfuric
There's two types of this.
One is a "meaty" flavor found in whiskies like Mortlach. This is intended to be there and a byproduct of the whisky making process.
The other is a rotten egg flavor from casks that sulfur candles were used in. This is a flaw and tastes disgusting.
>if you get some money and want to try a sherried single malt get some glendronach
Yeah. Glendronach 12 is an extremely flavorful sherry bomb at a very good price. IMO the tastiest non-peated Scotch in its price range. Also has zero "meatiness." Just quite oaky, but not astringent.

>>21418844
>grand old parr is a blend in that price range that is often overlooked. it's smoky, sweet, and very sippable
I've been trying (or retrying) a lot of the cheaper blends and that's one that I still need to get to. Most recent pickup was some Dimple Pinch which I quite liked. 15 years old and only $36 too.

For me, it’s greenspot.

>>21420031
I had a bottle of it and Redbreast 12 at the same time and far preferred the Redbreast. The Redbreast is more flavorful and the Green Spot tastes more like perfume in a bad way.

>>21407136
Not all blends are bad, depends on the quality of the grain, the percentage of malt in the blend and the ABV. There's plenty of blended malts that are superior to shite single malts.

>>21407359
If those parts are bottled right then sure. But you can absolutely have a blended malt that is superior to a chill filtered 40% abv single malt from tired casks. That being said most blends on the market are pretty shit. But that's the case for most spirits.

>>21409729
Kilkerran malt is more heavily peated that Springbank. Longrow is peated for significantly longer than springbank. It's about 8 hours vs 48 hours of peat smoke.

>>21420354
I’m also a redbreast enjoyer but greenspot is just a little better for me. I wouldn’t be upset if someone gave me a bottle of redbreast 12.

>add water to whiskey
>it improves
every time

I've never had an Irish whiskey that made me think "I would rather drink this than [insert literally any scotch]"

>>21421153
>[insert literally any scotch]
I mean that literally, by the way. I'd take JW Red over Redbreast.

>>21421112
>drink water alongside whiskey
>pour keeps its proof
errytim

>>21421298
I don't care that much about proof. I put water in 80 proof whiskey.

>>21421112
>>21421153
>>21421218
>>21421307
>go on the internet
>tell everyone you're wrong and do things wrongly
>leave
OK

>>21421806
Irish whiskey sucks bro

>yfw we're less than a year away from the total collapse of the secondary market

>>21421818
Johnnie Walker sucks more bro

>>21421947
Negative

>>21421947
this

is there any "whiskey for newfaggots recommendation" list?

>>21421947
I'd take JW Green over most irish in the same price range

>>21421882
good.

>>21421882
It already is for the basic BT and Willett stuff. EH Taylor, ER, and Blanton's are starting to hit shelves in big quantities in some places. I've yet to see it where I live, but it's a matter of time. Supposedly the Old Fitzgerald 7-year BiB is going to be widespread soon as well.

>>21418005
yea faggot go back

>>21422246
Eagle Rare is pretty common around me now, and I've even seen it on sale. EH Taylor and Blanton's are still price-gouged, though.

>>21422052
I'd take most $30 whiskies of any type over JW Green.

>>21422348
Lol

lmao even

Shit on other JWs for their inclusion of a base whiskey, but JW Green is literally just a blend of 15+ year aged single malts. Nothing else.

It's one of the best values for 15 year scotch.

>>21422351
It's a blend of bad single malts that's even worse than all of them.

>>21422434
>buy our infinity bottle

It always astounds me how much prices varies even among some of the more mass produced stuff.

Like I can find a bottle of Heaven Hill BiB at Binnys for $35.99 but it's $50 everywhere else. Or I can go to a random liquor store and get Russells Reserve for $41 but at Jewel Osco for $55.

Like who comes up with these?

>>21422246
allocations have been slowly lifting for tater bait. even Eagle Rare 10 is creeping back onto shelves. standard BT has been available in my small town for less than $30 all the while. in less than 5 years they'll be giving it away.

>>21422702
those are basically standard offerings decent liquor stores will charge less for whereas a regional grocery store that happens to sell liquor will absolutely rape you for the convenience because gen x/millennials hate having to make separate trips for something they're chasing with soda.

>>21423830
I've been hearing this for years, but nothing has changed where I'm at.
Local grocery store finally had Blantons on the shelf for $160 paired with Bulliet single barrel and they all sold out that day. BT is always out of stock and I haven't seen Eagle Rare on the shelf since like 2012.

>>21424343
From what I can tell, it's pretty scattered and region-specific but it is happening slowly. AZ in particular is getting flooded with small batch EH Taylor and Eagle Rare. I haven't seen those here (MI) yet but regular BT has been sitting on shelves, same with Willett 4-year rye, Noah's Mill and Rowan Creek.

>>21424448
In Chicago area I'm now able to fund BT for like $35 at most places and things like Blantons, while still way higher than they should be, are now actually sitting on shelf rather then people buying them at $160.Hell, I can even find Weller SR for like $50. While that's high it used to be impossible to even find.

>>21424546
tbf, it was 2 bottles for $160
while I've never tried Blantons, I have had Bulliet single barrel and I was not a fan of it

>>21424546
The main issue I have is you still find stores selling things like BT for like $60 when the store a block down the road sells for $35

>>21424766
BT is like $20 here at WinCo.

>>21425076
>Paying more than $15
lol

>>21425444
I haven't seen it anywhere for that price but you're not wrong because it's quite a boring whiskey.

Having alcohol withdrawal hallucinations, please help.

>>21426470
embrace it

Rotgut is real.
I drink semi-decent whiskey all the time and my shits are normal most the time. I bought some cheap vodkas from the gas station because the store was closed and I've been having explosive diarrea ever since.

Before I was drinking whiskey I used to drink the cheap vodka all the time and I also had diarrea every day.
Soyence redditors will tell you all alcohols are the same.

>>21427046
There's a tendency to drink more when what you're drinking is cheap.
Did you drink the cheap vodka in greater quantities than the semi-decent whiskey?
I always get diarrhea (or very close to it) when I drink large quantities of alcohol.

This is my whiskey of choice. Any suggestions on where to branch out from here without breaking the bank?

>>21427384
Depends what you consider "breaking the bank", that's like what $15-20?

Evan Williams does a single barrel for around $30-35.
Old Forrester 1920/1910 are both around ~$50-70
Henry McKenna 10 year is ~$55-65
Knob Creek 12 year is ~$55-65
Eagle Rare is ~$35-45 (non-secondary pricing)
Elijah Craig single barrels and barrel proof options are $70-85

>>21427404
Thanks, I think I will check out the single barrel or an Old Forrester. Mainly looking for a good pour for company. I have people over frequently and like to offer a drink but don't want to be pouring the good stuff every week

>>21427457
Eagle rare is very drinkable for the price, but it can be hard to find depending on your area, so if it's available around you that would be my first pick for a cheaper pour that tastes good for guests who might not like harsher whiskey (which is most whiskey at sub $40).

>>21427463
>>21427404
unfortunately my local state run shop has none of these options,looks like its another week with evan williams

>>21427384
Wild Turkey 101

>>21427478
Lol name and shame the state

>>21427489
>>21427493
Ohio, you can see the allocations for my store at this link
https://www.ohlq.com/liquor/whiskey?selectedagencyid=30748

>>21427498
I'm a Dayton native and glad I haven't been back since I left.
Lived briefly in the Columbus area when my dad was doing his PhD at OSU, but haven't been back to Ohio in around 15 years.

Looks like they have Old Forester though

>>21427505
Oh shit must've missed it. Thanks anon.
Columbus is weird, got pretty dangerous during covid and now its getting a crazy surge of growth downtown. I have always lived right downtown in the heart of it so its weird seeing it go from a ghost town past 8 pm to people out until 2 or 3 am

>>21427384
Mellow Corm

>>21427523
i have Buckeye Lightning for that

>>21427523
>Corm

'llow corn

>>21427533
>wat in tarnation

>>21427384
Old grandad bib had similar citrus notes to ew bib iirc

>>21427505
i am back, and wow the OF 1920 is really a quality bottle, exactly what I wanted and more, thanks

>>21427695
enjoy

>>21427498
Woodford Reserve Double Oaked

I know very little about whiskey but I really love the taste of Wild Turkey. Is there something specific they use to make it taste like that that I could find in other whiskeys?

>>21427922
Russell’s Reserve, they're the same company.

>>21413395
Will have to try bourbon/amaretto/bitters some time. Sounds like a very pleasant way of getting shitfaced.

>>21427991
make a Morgenthaler Amaretto sour and thank me later

>>21427922
It has a decent amount of rye in the mashbill and it's aged a little longer than most stuff at its price point.

>>21427695
>OF 1920
Do people really enjoy this? When I tried it, the cherry flavor was so strong and sweet I could've mistaken it for cough syrup. Only good for mixing.

My wife is annoying me and figured out I’m always drinking wild turkey and not coffee out of my mug. How are you guys drinking all day and hiding it from jerk offs like your wife or boss?

>>21428699
It's definitely possible that there are people who enjoy something that you don't.

>>21428699
It's high proof and oaky as fuck. What's not to like?

>>21428722
Maybe I got a bad bottle? I didn't even taste a hint of oak in mine, it was all cherry and tasted like someone dumped a shot a grenadine in there.

>>21428727
>Maybe I got a bad bottle?
Unlikely.
>I didn't even taste a hint of oak in mine
Your tongue is just broken, most likely.
It's quite oaky.

>>21428733
I would consider bourbons like Elijah Craig and Russels Reserve to be oaky.
1920 had nothing like that; its one of the few bottles I've tried where my first impression was "wtf".

>hate gin
>earnestly try to get into it and at least figure out how to enjoy a gin and tonic
>end up figuring it out somehow and start to like it
>whiskey tastes like shit now
I don't get it

>>21428753
Sorry to say but I’ve seen this exact thing before. Turns out you are a low T she-male. Sorry you had to find out this way.

Never tried rye whiskey, but the green labels on them make it seem like they taste sour and disgusting. What's a good intro to Rye that doesn't taste like ass if I love budget blasters like EW BiB and OGD 114

>>21429632
Sagamore's entry level Rye is around $30-40 and has some minty spice.

Knob Creek had a 10 year Rye last year that was fantastic at like $60. Wish I could find it again.


Willett's 4-year Rye is expensive, but unique, I buy it once every 4-5 months.

>>21429632
Bulleit rye. I need to spend 70 dollars to get something I like more.

>>21429632
Old Forester Rye or Knob Creek Rye.

>be random bourbon brand
>release a 7 year old bottled-in-bond
It's weird that old fitz and old grand-dad did this this year.

>>21428829
>Whiskey is a masculine drink. I define my masculinity through my consumer practices.
Unironically effeminate behavior.

>>21429632
Michter's Single Barrel Rye. A little on the pricier side (like $60) but definitely worth it

>>21407341
Vaxxed?

>Found some Weller SR at my local Jewel in Chicago
>AND ON SALE!!!!
>$29.00ish after tax

Nature is healing

>>21431462
I like some Weller releases but even at $30 I doubt i'd buy the Weller SR.
It's just not particularly good and only rides on the hype from most of the other weller releases.

>>21431477
I can see that, but I prefer Scotches so that 90-100 Proof range is where I like it.

>>21431541
The 12 year is also 90 proof and much better than the SR.
The single barrel release and the CYPB release are also between 90-100 proof (97 and 95 proof respectively).

>>21431553
12 year is much harder to find, though.

>>21431585
I'm aware that the SR sucks enough that I still wouldn't bother personally unless you've just never had it before and really wanted to try it.

Wild turkeys, couldn't drag me away
Wild, wild turkeys, we'll ride them someday

Is Japanese whiskey better than American whiskey?

>>21432510
Better? In what way?

It's a different style. If that particular style appeals to you, then to you personally it might be "better", but the price in the US/Europe is generally so inflated as to not be worth the pricetag compared to European (Scotch/Irish) or American (Bourbon/Rye) offerings available.

For example, I love Yamazaki, but it sure as fuck isn't "worth" $150 for a 12 year old. When i first started drinking in 2012/13 timeframe it was only $50-60. Similar bourbons in that price range at the time are only $75-90 these days compared to the $140-160 Yamazaki is, just because it's Japanese.

>>21432510
The problem with nip whiskey is that to get a decent bottle you’re paying 100 dollars. You can get equivalent quality American whiskey much cheaper.

>>21432510
It's imitation scotch with more price inflation.

>>21433009
Not only is it that, but it tends to imitate sissy foofoo "delicate" Scotches (read: flavorless Scotches for faggots and women).

What am I drinking today

>>21433501
warm tap water

>>21433505
No

I decided in the yamazaki

>>21428753
Okay this is not amusing anymore. I've been drinking different bottles of whiskey from my collection for a few days now and nothing tastes good anymore. I wasn't making some post about how gin is better or something, so don't misunderstand me. It's like when I switched to a different spirit for a short time my palate re-acclimated away from whiskey and now I don't have the "taste" for it anymore that I used to. I was looking forward to drinking this weekend but I don't want to drink any of this shit anymore. What the fuck.

>>21433686
whiskey is very much an acquired taste, I suppose it's reasonable to think you've overrode that taste.

>>21403866
bravo

>>21407445
>I was able to drink for 3 years of my life total
You should've started earlier babe

>>21433253
Based reply

>>21433686
If they're old bottles it's sadly to be expected. Oxygen in the bottle does eventually alter the taste.

Got something of a collection too and had an amazing bottle from about 10 years ago with about 1/10th left and the last of it was damn near awful.

>>21433501
>dingle
kek

>>21433893
>an amazing bottle from about 10 years ago
I can barely keep a bottle for 10 weeks

>>21433501
whisky highball

>>21433501
Anime girl pee

>>21428705
give em a black eye to go with their brown nose

>>21438377
I prefer anime girl foot sweat but you do you

>>21438530
Based.

>>21436904 = >>21438377

oh no >_<

>>21414216
>baking spices
fucking meaningless phrase, means nothing. literally one half step up from "smooth"

>>21422246
>>21422294
>>21424343
>>21424546
>>21424617
Blanton's fucking sucks. It's two proof points higher and comes off the same still as BT and is aged less long than it. It's objectively less tasty than fucking woodford reserve if you ever try them head to head. debate me

>>21403755 (OP)
Tried Weller SR for the first time.
This is the shit people pay $100 for? its just ok at best. Ill prob use it with coke lol.

>>21439149
See >>21431477

>>21439170
I got it for $29 so im not too upset. is 107 or full proof really that different?

>>21439175
I still wouldn't pay 2ndary pricing for them, but they're at least worth their MSRP from my personal experience, though it's been 5-6 years since i've had any.

>>21439086
I like both BT and Woodford Reserve. Someday I'll try Blantons if I can find a single bottle at a reasonable price. However, I have plenty of bourbon that I enjoy already so I don't feel like I'm missing out.

>>21439175
>>21439187
>>21439170
big gay rant on why people like weller and what to look for/why:
a lot of this can be handled with bar pours. for one thing, you can order something you already like and use it as an immediate baseline to figure out if these reputed noses and flavors are really all there.
this is just me, but as bad a rep as it gets, the 12 is the one where you can figure out what people are talking about and make a decision. the BT distillery (until the distillate from the new still hits its age here in a few years and everything goes south like with wild turkey) is old, funky and has some unique characteristics that come out at a decent age. the pappies and 12 have an orange/cherry/old-attic-funk that really is pretty unique and good. the other wellers are like a methodone for them and you can find it and enjoy it a little bit if you know what you're looking for. 107 and FP have a little more because the whiskey is more concentrated.
wild turkey used to have a kind of similarly unique funky profile and arguably better before they hiked their entry proof and threw the ancient ripy brothers still in the trash and now it tastes like everything else unless they baby some really special barrels.
the truth is that these get (in WT's case *got* it - the recent award winning 15 was the last off of the old still) hype because they're old and weird compared to the rest of the market. everyone else is using a brand new vendome at this point, and although they can make some choices to separate the product it all tastes the same. heaven hill's new bernheim plant uses nutty beam yeast and a column from the 90s and it mostly just gets newer from there. You used to have old heaven hill that tasted like mushy concentrated peaches, national distillers crow/granddad that tasted like plummy butterscotch, stitzel weller that tasted like old books and syrupy leather, and all of it's gone now.
so anyway that's why people like, or at least the basis for liking weller,

>>21440902
hm. So what are the hidden gems that still have this cherry/ orange flavor i should look for, or just stick with my knob creek and makers?

>>21440949
out of more accessible BT stuff, i get it in eagle rare though it's vanilla heavy and, kind of strangely, sazerac had it though again masked a little by rye notes. if i had a truly awesome sleeper replacement i'd let you know lol. good picks of makers have some, but i often get a whiff of wet cardboard off of makers so i don't fuck with it much. bernheim wheat whiskey has it but the yeast nuttiness crowds it as well.
some of this is like smoking weed for the first time. the alternatives are sort of like not smoking enough for a first timer to notice anything, but then the next time you get a gob of it and the effects of a small amount are detectable after that.
just have a beam at a bar and get an affordable pour of weller 12 and you'll remember the profile after that because it has a lot. also if this is all just my own palate and everything you're reading here is worthless bullshit to yours (can happen between people) you're not out much money

>>21440949
Makers should already have a cherry note and OGD should have some orange(more noticable in Knob's Rye imo). I've heard people say Old Forester 1920 has cherry as well.

yeah im drinking 'llow corn out of a glencairn

>>21441495
I'm sorry

>>21441291
That may have be me. The 1920 I had was cherry overload to the point I had to mix it. It really tasted medicinal. I have not had another bottle so I'm not sure if that was on profile or not, but I don't plan to ever buy any more of that stuff.

>>21442184
it's from years ago when I was researching via video reviews

Bourbon sucks now it’s all generic slop unless you are paying big bucks. Rye or Irish whiskey is the only way to go now.

>>21442503
ah yes, rye, where the vast majority is fraud "distilleries" slapping their label on MGP distillate, barely legal 51% mashbills, or artificially adding enzymes to 100% mashbills. best case scenario you find an authentic rye and it's utterly price gouged for what it is
i want to see it thrive, but outside micro distilleries the current market is fucking abysmal

Just got a bottle of this. What did I think of it?

>$140+ after tax for 7 YEAR OLD PEATED BUNNAHABHAIN cuz muh Signatory dunnage warehouse
I literally bought 7 year peated Bunna at Total Wine for less than $40 not 2 years ago.

>>21442876
Probably tastes like liquid smoke.

Going to a Penelope tasting this evening. Anythign I should be on the lookout for? i have never had it.

Is piggyback a meme or is it good for making an old fashioned. Someone just gave me a bottle.

>>21442876
>I literally bought 7 year peated Bunna at Total Wine for less than $40 not 2 years ago.
Cask strength?

>>21443163
52% but not cask strength. Duncan Talyor Battlehill bottling.

Why ain't rye popular?
Only tried Bulleit rye and I liked it more than base Bourbon taste. Considering the Old Forester next.

what am i in for

>>21443159
mixing is basically what the purpose for it

>>21442961
yeah smash any dark haired, blue eyed, fat assed Irish broad you see.

>>21442925
I have an independent bottling and the Toitech A Dha. both are smoky, but it s been a while since I had them side by side, but the Toitech has a decent amount of sherry in it where the IB is probably mostly grey oak/refill bourbon.

>>21443183
too much flavor for the normies who shoot or mix

>>21442503
I don't disagree mostly, though isn't it funny that barton can't make anything really exceptional even with decades of trying, but they made some of the most uniquely incredible rye of all time that drove the popularity of kentucky owl and high west until they ran out, and now they're too retarded to do it again lol
among distilleries that have a unique profile in their rye, heaven hill's is good if they would age it over 6 years, and oscar pepper would be really good if they would do the same. after the collapse, you'll probably see it and i'm excited

>>21443269
mostly meant for >>21442776

>>21443188
suntory time

>>21443737
got theb two on the right 4 free from my ol ladys client

>>21444381

>>21444382
Price on the A125?

>>21403762
>bro it's so smooth!
Oh so it's flavorless. That's what I hear when people say that

>>21445460
nta, but by me at a small local grocery store its $61.99. A batches usually arent the desired ones so if you see them left alone, that's why.

>>21445500
Yeah my store is advertising a (currently) unnamed elijah craig release for next weekend at $55.99/bottle.

I'm guessing it's A125, but it could also be a single-barrel release.

>>21445501
A125 popped up at that small shop around March or April. also, they havent moved one yet.

>>21445508
Yeah i'm hoping it'll be a high proof single barrel instead of A125. But at $55.99 i'll probably buy it even if it is A125.

>>21445512
2bh I dont know of a batch that has been raved about since 2023 and I think that was either B or C, but I dont follow the tater trail.

Has anyone here tried that peanut butter whiskey or is it just a meme? I love peanut butter

>>21403755 (OP)
Just drink grain alcohol if you think moar proof moar beter

>>21445563
if you only want the peanut butter flavor then it's what you want. flavored stuff has no complexity beyond the added flavoring. you could get a bottle of Old Tub and mostly get the aroma of a jar of peanut butter for the same price and it has more to offer in terms of taste.

>>21445583
I think old tub has been discontinued.

>>21445607
that would be a shame. it was everywhere just a year or two ago.

>>21445583
>flavored stuff has no complexity beyond the added flavoring
Knob Creek Smoked Maple does. It's the only good flavored whiskey.

>>21405308
Man. Its crazy that the first time i saw this image posted was on /mlp/ in like 2011 or 2011. Ive been here far to long.

>>21445645
>2011
literal newfag

>>21443188
This was my first taste at whiskey ever, I had a bougie friend growing up who bought some overseas. I was hooked from the first taste

>>21445563
It's REALLY sweet and almost seems more like a whiskey liqueur, like Yukon Jack or Southern Comfort, but more one-note because they like to prioritize peanut butter over whiskey.
>t. tried Skrewball and Bird Dog nips because I was curious too

>>21445656
Been here longer than that but im still a newfag regardless

i just set up a little snoot of a half pour each of:
elijah craig, evan williams sib, heavan hill bottled in bond, mckenna 10 bib and tried them all blind. the normal craig was as good as anything excepting the mckenna, which drank about exactly its 6 proof points better.
you can understand this by the fact that their barrel picks are all 8-12 years old so it's averaging 10ish years.it used to be a 12 year age statement and they may have pulled that statement in the boom era, but i guess they didn't have the balls to destroy the profile.
dont overpay for bullshit frens

>>21445889
>you can understand this by the fact that their barrel picks are all 8-12 years old so it's averaging 10ish years.it used to be a 12 year age statement
What does this mean?

>>21445460
its $75 near but i copped both picrel for free

>>21445889
>heaven hill has the same flavor profile
whoa..

>>21444381
>>21444382
Nice. Have you purchased the soda water and cola to mix with these fine bottles.

>>21429959
Tasted like the forest. More mild than their bourbon even at the same proof. Is it the same story with other Rye's?

>>21447795
Bullet Rye is just MGP 95/5 Rye mashbill. very dill forward.