Have you lost weight?
How did you manage to do it without being miserable?
I’m fat.

>>21409375 (OP)
Low carb, walking and eventually exercise.
Also two meals a day.

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>>21409375 (OP)
just get ozempic

low carb.
1 lb of ground turkey is only like 900 calories.
I'd call it """keto""" but it's actually way too high in protein to be keto

>>21409375 (OP)
just eat less fatso.

>>21409413
I like ground turkey but why the fuck is it the same price as ground beef? Why is ground chicken, which is basically pink slime forcemeat, the same price as ground beef? I want an executive beheaded on live TV for this shit.

>>21409375 (OP)
Eat less. You'll have to experience a feeling called "hungry" at least once a day. You won't shrivel up and die if you go two seconds without stuffing your fat fucking face.

>>21409416
its not the same price unless you're buying meat in those nasty tubes like cookie dough.

decent quality ground beef is like twice the price of ground turkey

>>21409375 (OP)
>Have you lost weight?
Yes.
>How did you manage to do it without being miserable?
I didn't.
>I’m fat.
Starve.

>>21409381
>>21409413
low carb made me feel crappy but just cutting out refined sugar helped. i can have milk, fruit, potatoes, etc. and not overeat like i can with cookies and cake.

>>21409424
That's exactly my point though. The tubes should be dirt cheap. It's literally mechanically separated scraps. Why is it being sold for the same price as beef of the same manufacturing process?

>>21409375 (OP)
You don’t have to do anything drastic or put your body into shock just firstly identify all your bad habits and then 1 by 1 wean them back slowly but surely. You’ll lose the weight but more importantly you’ll develop the habits and lifestyle that will keep the weight from yo-yo ing back up again

>>21409433
that's probably the lowest possible price they can set and still turn any kind of profit, accounting for packaging and transportation

>>21409375 (OP)
i've never tried but i bet i could lose a ton if i just quit drinking

>>21409435
Yeah I guess. I've become very disillusioned by meat capitalism in general. Even on a local scale. I bought half a cow last year and the local butcher even gypped the fuck out of me on that. Ended up being the same price as supermarket meat and most of it was worse quality because they padded the ground beef with fat to make more money off of me, which I only found out when I went to cook it and it just melted into a pool of grease.

I hate everybody.

>>21409375 (OP)
Stopped drinking choccy milk.
Lost 25 lbs.

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>>21409375 (OP)
Yeah. I'd suggest slight exercise, 3 days a week. Gently. Try and do ever so slightly more each time. With this, tuna and beans, beef jerky, lentils, chicken breast other lean protein. Jazz it all up with spices, onions, garlic etc. Still have carbs, sauces etc. Obviously a decent amount of veg. Don't do it every day. Do it on your exercise days. The rest of the time do what you usually do. I'm sure you'll see positive results within 4 weeks. If you alternate the days, it doesn't become a constant misery. It doesn't have to be a wholesale change and you can still make nice enough food on the healthier days

>>21409381
>Low carb
High fiber and just work out fatso.

Cutting out carbs is a meme diet advice armchair dieticians on the internet say.
A healthy diet should be more than 50% carbs.
Just eat less and exercise.

Calories in, calories out.

>>21409450
You know what, Steve? You're absolutely right. Taco Bell's chicken tenders are a much higher quality area of discussion.

>>21409475
>Just eat less and exercise.
>Calories in, calories out.
technically true but ignores a lot of factors. people who say low carb helped them lose weight were usually eating a lot of junk food.

and there's some evidence that some people just don't do as well with carbs as others. there are differences in how much starch-digesting enzymes are produced in saliva between individuals. people who produce less may do better with more fat and protein and less carbs, although that doesn't mean carbs are bad either. it might even just be starch in particular that they don't do well with.

diet and genetics and biology are pretty complicated and you can't really give such simple basic advice that will work equally well for everyone.

>>21409465
This is good advice. I did something similar, although I did 3 days of exercise in a row - Monday to Wednesday. Different types of exercise each day. I didn't need to lose loads of weight though. I would've found it difficult food wise if I didn't like tuna and jerky. They were the main stays. It's easy to make a nice tasting salad with beans, lentils etc. Always the cold veg like celery, onions, peppers etc. I'm saying that I didn't need to lose much, because I'm 6'5" and carried the weight well, I was maybe a bit jowly. But I went from 231 to 191 in 3ish months. Once I'd got into the routine it became easier to keep going

>>21409475
muh high ffiber

I once lost 15 kg over the course of some months (I have no idea how long) by eating the same thing every day for lunch (potato slice and cheese omelette) and nothing for dinner, and drinking instead
it was completely unintentional

>>21409375 (OP)
I just ate less
Never understood the claim that it's a miserable experience

>>21409375 (OP)
I didn't really start eating less, I just started running more. I try to run 4 5ks a week (life happens and I don't always get that many in) and a 10k on either Saturday or Sunday. I eat pretty much anything I want.

Lost around 65 lbs in 7 months. First 2 months were strict dieting (no or low sugar, no salt) 2 Meals a day with light snacking. Lost 20 with that.

Next 4 months I lost 30 or so by just avoiding soda and sugar in general, started eating more dishes and lifting weights.

Lastly for 1 month I went back to dieting (trying keto) and lost another 5 or so lbs. Went from 270 to 203. One more month of dieting to go.

Mostly think it's just cutting sugar and eating lighter meals. Eventually you can beat your cravings that come and go. Also light exercise goes a long way to building discipline.

>>21409375 (OP)
>Have you lost weight?
You eat less
>How did you manage to do it without being miserable?
What?
>I’m fat.
Very sad!

>>21409375 (OP)
330 to 145

It is literally CICO. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a fucking retard or trying to sell you something. I hardly even exercised during that time so don't begin to use the excuse. Weight loss has next to nothing to do with how much you exercise. Simply because you can undo 4 hours of hard pumping working out in a single large milkshake.

Drink water. It is practically free, promotes good habits, and cleanses your taste palate. Sugary drinks are doses of wasteful calories. Begin religiously checking nutritional facts and serving sizes and fucking log them. Go plug in your honest measurements into a TDEE calculator online. Consume less then that number every day and you mathematically/scientifically/faithfully cannot fail to lose weight.

>>21409375 (OP)
set reasonable goals. i went from 260 to 170 by losing 10 lbs a month. eat less, no booze, light exercise, fight the late night junk cravings. you can do it OP

>>21409375 (OP)
Just eat less. Do OMAD. Drink water when you're hungry. Have some self control like a functioning adult should.

I haven't eaten in 22 days anon and I'm feeling fine. If you're over like 30% body fat literally just stop eating. After 3 or 4 days your body stops producing the hunger hormone. Make sure to drink electrolytes to stay alive though.

>>21410129
Realising that your hunger is either on or off instead of being a sliding scale and that it only lasts for like 20 minutes at a time is a game changer

>>21410129
>fasting fags invading /ck/ now
Isn't fasting antithetical to /ck/? If you haven't eaten and feeling fine why are you on a board dedicated to food?
Fasting doesn't beat obesity. Have fun regaining all your weight and more when you start eating again dumbass.

>>21410155
You can still cook without eating you fat RETARD
>duhhhh youre on /ck/ but dont eat da mcdonalds???? dafuq?????
KILL yourself

>>21410155
>Isn't fasting antithetical to /ck/?
Not really, no. Knowing when not to eat is an important aspect of properly enjoying food and cooking.

>>21410155
>Have fun regaining all your weight and more
this only happens to retards who think that once their diet is "over" they can go right back to eating the exact same way that made them a fatass in the first place

>>21410175
going from obesity to not eating at all isn't a great indicator that someone has found a good way to maintain a normal weight while eating regularly long term

>>21410155
Yes I realize fasting is not a long term solution, but it helps me jump start improving my diet by giving me relatively quick results that I'm proud to have achieved and do not want to give up. It also bakes it into your mind that no, you really don't need to eat whatever it is you're craving. You went multiple weeks without food you can skip a meal or two.
I have a solid meal plan of 1500cal a day in place ready to get on that when I start eating again. I know some of it I will gain back instantly because of water weight but I don't want to go back to being fat so I'm going to make sure I stick with the calorie deficit.

>>21410190
it is a great indicator of the kind of self control required to not fall right back into old habits though

>>21409375 (OP)
I went from 500 pounds to 400 lb over the course of years and therapy but recent events have turned my life upside down and I'm stuck at about 4:35 which feels quite awful in every sense of the word.
Sure would be nice if my stupid State Health Care would pay for ozempic but I guess I'm not that lucky. Whatever,
>>21410128
I can attest that food is perhaps the worst coping mechanism you can ever turn to, sometimes I almost wish I took up drinking but that wasn't an option in high school. At least you can quit drinking, I have to somehow manage to control a disastrous relationship with food that I've had my entire life. Thanks mom and dad. No wonder me and my brother look like beached whales.

>>21409375 (OP)
2 meals a day, lunch 600-700 calories, dinner same thing. No snacking, maintain discipline. Satiating meals is the key. If you can manage that over a few months, the pounds melt off.
t.currently 215 lbs at 6’2 down from 285 lbs

>>21409375 (OP)
I just tried to stop being so god damn fat

Been aggressively working on my weight for the last 2 years. Started at 374 and have currently hit a wall at 330lbs that I've been stuck at and am trying to bypass.

Currently on 50 units of Ozempic once a week right now.

I'm down to two meals a day. Pretty much have reduced my carb intake and upped my protein and fiber intake because those GLP1 medications slow down your digestive tract so much you basically have to massively increase your dietary fiber intake via veggies and supplements so you can poop normally, otherwise it's like eating an MRE and not pooping for 3+ days.

I'm working out 4-5 days a week. Most days it's just 30-60 minutes of cardio of some kind, treadmill, elliptical or stair master, though the stair master kicks my ass so much I can barely manage 20-30 minutes on it. 2 of those days I use the weight machines to at least tone my muscles and build them up somewhat so I can increase my basal metabolism. Nothing crazy, sticking to weights where I can comfortably do 3 sets of 15 reps on each machine so I start to feel burning in my muscle groups.

I definitely need to tweak something because I've been stuck at 330 for several months now so I probably need to further reduce my portions and/or up my exercise to try and break this wall. The Ozempic definitely helps control the cravings at least, but not completely. Mostly makes me less hangry when I go for longer periods without eating.

1 Overcoming childhood trauma
2 Developing healthy coping mechanisms
3 Understanding my thought processes and reframing
4 Weighing foods and calorie tracking
5 Not being lazy with the calorie tracking so I snack 200-400 cal / day extra

>>21409488
i am inclined to believe that your body will increase amylase production if you power through the indigestion

>>21410379
use a calorie tracking software and you will find out if that wall is because you are eating more than you think

>>21409375 (OP)
I lost ~60lbs quite quickly a few years ago just by walking every day and counting calories. that's it. losing it was easy. the hard part is maintaining it. I ended up putting it all back on over the last couple years, now I'm starting over again. the good part is it took a lot longer to gain it than it did to lose it. I just have to figure out how to keep myself at my ideal weight once I get there again.

You're miserable at first, and then you feel better the healthier you get. I'm 6'2", at my fattest I was 298lbs, I got gout and like, the beginning stages of fatty liver, not full on fatty liver but like pre fatty. My knees and feet hurt like hell all the time, so did my back. That was in late 2022. I quit drinking beer and soda and immediately lost thirty pounds, and then the real pain began. I still had quite a sweet tooth and that was the hardest thing to drop. My goal weight from the start has been 190, which I haven't weighed that little since I was like 22 (I'm 33 now) but I'm at 215 now. Even though I'm older, I feel like a kid again, I have so much energy, I still have aches and pains from aging but it's honestly not as bad. I fuck the absolute shit out of my wife, when I used to just do the fat guy hump until my cock would go limp because I'd be too tired and out of breath to keep going. My son was born in 2024, I genuinely probably couldn't have knocked up my wife if I was still so very fat, because I just couldn't cum reliably at that point in time, just too fat to fuck. Still, I'm going harder on my diet and exercise regimen than ever before, and I seem to be stuck at 215.

The majority of people who lose a lot of weight will regain it eventually, and I think it's because they fail to create, and sustain, a lifestyle that doesn't cause obesity. If you want to look like an athlete, you have to live like one. The absolute masters of augmenting body composition are professional bodybuilders; look into how they deal with nutrition, and then restructure your life around athleticism.

Learn to maintain your weight first (unless you're medically fucked) and learn to lift. Then, start a 25% calorie deficit. Once you start to lean out, start aiming to lose 1% of your bodyweight per week and sprint to the finish. Tools like metabolic equivalent of task (MET) are useful to leverage if you're active. TDEE calorie values account for ~5000 steps per day, so don't count step calories unless you're going well past that.

Get 0.8 g/lb of protein, 33% of your calories from fat, and the rest from quality fibrous carbs.

>>21409375 (OP)
Start counting your calories (you'll be shocked at how much more it will be than you think it is), then cut your portions to match your target intake. If it's a huge disparity, do it in stages (e.g. shave off 4-500 calories a month, or whatever you can manage). You'll get used to the smaller portions after a week or so.

>>21410606
>TDEE calorie values account for ~5000 steps per day
Meant to say SEDENTARY TDEE values.

>>21410393
it can to a certain extent and your gut flora can adapt somewhat as well, but there's still a limit if you're one of the people on the lower end of how many gene copies you have for amylase production.

>The AMY1 gene, which codes for salivary amylase, exhibits significant copy number variation (CNV) in humans, with reported ranges from 2 to 18 copies.
it can be a pretty big difference and even with some adaptation two people can have vastly different outcomes with the same amount of starch

>>21409375 (OP)
I lost about 40 pounds from chemotherapy.

>>21410606
People go on a diet expecting it to be over once they hit their desired goal.

>>21409375 (OP)
I spend all my money on Funkopops and Pokémon cards so I don’t have much for food.
It works for me.

I have some sympathy, because I know it's harder for some people than it is for me. A few years ago I put on about 10 extra pounds because I was eating a quart of ice cream every 3 days. This wasn't mere gluttony, as I was dealing with stomach trouble and found the ice cream very soothing to my stomach. I easily lost the weight just by stopping the extreme ice cream intake.

It all boils down to calories in vs. calories out, but some people have faster metabolisms than others and some have a greater genetic propensity to store excess calories as fat compared to others. I require a really extreme calorie surfeit to gain any weight.

>>21409375 (OP)
dont buy junk food or have it around the house, cuz you know you gonna eat it. eat salads or whatever pussy ass fags and women eat, after you lose the weight you can go back to eating good stuff again, i think theres some kind of science where once you lose the weight you cant gain it back so you can start eatin good again after you lose the first 100 or 200 pounds, thats what i did anyway

>>21409375 (OP)
dont visit the /ck/ board because seeing all those yummy pics of food here gonna wanna make you eat

>>21410379
does Ozempic actually work on us 300+ lb super fats? i thought that was just for people like 50 pounds overweight or some shit. what do you do just go to a doctor as say im fat gimmie that fat shot! i havent been to a doctor in over 10 years because im afraid he gonna yell at me for being fat also im afraid to find out all the fat guy health problems i probably have

If I could cut out alcohol I would be so powerful and sexy but God nerfed me with alcoholism so I wouldn't steal everybody's GFs

>>21410727
You nerfed yourself through denying your will by passing off your own choices as a disease.

>>21410727
Chicks love alcoholics, dipshit
Even with that boon you couldn't get a chick with a hundred dollar bill hanging out of your zipper

>walk at least a mile everyday
>cut out liquid calories
>count calories (they can absolutely creep on you, especially fatty food)
>learn to live with the feeling of hunger

>>21410752
A banana has about the same amount of calories as a tablespoon of mayo, for example. So be wiser about your eating choices.

>>21410752
>learn to live with the feeling of hunger
You shouldn't feel hungry all the time, but it's absolutely normal to feel hungry shortly before meal times.

>>21410761
Yeah but the problem with fatties is that they are always feeling hungry.

Sometimes you can also eat crap that was not filling (like drink a small can of soda instead of some yogurt) but if you want to lose weight you will need to call it quits that day and not eat to sate the hunger pangs if you met your caloric target.

>>21410779
They physically cannot always be feeling hungry, they just want to eat
The body's signal for hunger is not able to persist for that long

>>21409375 (OP)
A lot of people struggle to reduce their comfort eating because they have very little else enjoyable going on in their lives so cutting out the calorific food is like removing the last enjoyment in life.

You need to find hobbies and social activities you enjoy that takes up time in the day to distract you from boredom eating and to fill that dopamine void that food left.

>lose 5 lbs
>catch a cold from lack of nutrients, metabolism is fucked from cold
>gain 5 lbs
Sucks

>>21410892
Weebs are baby like victims, agreed.

>>21409375 (OP)
I did it and I’ve got no self discipline.
You can do it.

>>21409375 (OP)
>How did you manage to do it without being miserable?
I had a goal to work towards and people to work for. Then I lost it all and I don't have any point in continuing.

>>21409375 (OP)
Yeah, lost 40ish pounds a few years ago with OMAD and been mostly stable since. Got a dozen or so back because I got into baking but I'm cutting it down.
The first couple weeks sucked but I got used to it. Also made me appreciate food and cooking a lot more.

If you start now, you can be 1600 calories a day for 43 days by the end of July

>>21409375 (OP)
I've always wondered how this guy is so fat yet has such poor stability. I would imagine a fat guy to be difficult to push and make fall

Almost everyone can lose weight.
Almost no one can maintain the loss.

>>21411327
top heavy, knees are usually shot

>>21411327
Momentum.
That rippling gut has a tsunami effect.

>>21411327
>>21411330
>>21411335
And he's probably hammered.

Stopped drinking soda or really anything but water. Yes this includes alcohol which is a lot of calories.
Sometimes I skip a meal, either breakfast or lunch. Especially if I'm having a heavy meal or eating out that day.
Walk more. I started playing disc golf more which is a good excuse to go walk a few miles in the park every few days.

I don't really do any diets like low carb or whatever. I'd rather just eat less of what I like than restrict what I can eat in general. I don't count calories and I'm down like 20lbs this year. I need to find a way to make this stick though, last year my depression got worse and I stopped being active, started eating more junk food, and lost all of my progress from previous years. It certainly takes longer with more effort to lose it than to gain it back

>get new job 7 miles away
>live in flat area with lots of country roads and side trails
>realise I can cycle to work pretty easily
>suddenly cycling 70 miles per week
>also go low carb and religiously buy salads from work canteen
>drop 60lbs in a year

The people who bemoan "society" instead of personal responsibility sort of have a point.
The moment I didn't have a choice about my activity level weight just fell off.

>>21411409
>suddenly cycling 70 miles per week
Just be careful how you sit on the seat, don't want ED.

>>21410726
So, I'm only speaking from personal experience here, but I did go from my peak of 374 to my current of 330 in about a year so I'd say they do help, but your mileage may vary.

The way I'd describe these GLP-1 meds is that they're not a silver bullet to your issues, but they're a pretty damn big bullet. The way I feel with them is that they're like a physiological "Handbrake" for my eating and cravings and also the type of foods that I would binge eat before.

When you start eating food on these things the main thing they do is kickstart the production of the chemical that signals your brain that you're full and slows down the digestion in your body so your stomach and GI tract feel "Full" longer. It's a real major change to experience, especially when you're first starting out.

When I first started on them, i went to my usual fast food joint run and tried to eat my usual of a couple of burgs and fries and chicken tendies and not only could I not finish the meal, I felt fucking SICK. Like no joke, the biggest effect this med has is that when I eat something particularly heavy is that my stomach feels like a lead ball has formed in it and my desire to eat ANYTHING just fucking plummets. It basically feels like when you overeat at an all-you-can eat buffy. You feel bloated, nauseous, and you're riding the edge of wanting to puke. And worse you feel like that for a while, like easily the whole rest of the day and even into the following day.

Over time, this physiological reaction starts making you associate stuff like fast food, pizza, piles of french fries or hot pockets etc with this sick bloated feeling. And over the course of a year or so, I instinctively stopped or at least severely curtailed my consumption of these things. Like don't get me wrong, I still fucking love a Double Whopper or Chicken Tenders, but before when I'd eat like 2 burgers + Tendies in a sitting, now i basically finish one burger, with maybe a small fry to go with it at most.

>>21411489
(cont'd)

So now, when I get hungry, I find I have to find cleaner, less fatty/carb heavy foods to eat if I don't want to feel like I'm in a sick food coma for the rest of the day. It's basically a physiological "stick" that punishes you if you eat dirty.

So now I seek out lots of lean chicken and turkey to go with salads or at least try to make my own burgs with those meats instead. Sweets also seem to trigger the bloated/full feeling of the medication pretty badly as well, so I try to do either sugar free ice cream like Halo Top, or use the really small ice cream bars or sandwiches so I can satisfy my sweet tooth but not feel like ass as a result.

Essentially it's forcing my body to sort of find a new happy medium with food. Obviously as I mentioned before, it does require you to do your part too and I'm definitely messing up calories wise somewhere as I've hit this 330lb wall despite working out 4 days a week, so it's something that will help you try to mentally reset your relationship with food and tame some of the worst of the hunger cramps/cravings.

The big blind spot to them is that it doesn't seem to have any effect of mindless "grazing" snacking where you get bored and just want to eat "something". That's something you actively have to keep a look out for, but at least for your main "mealtimes" it's definitely been a help for sure.

Check with your doc or ask for a referral to a nutrition specialist who has the ability to prescribe them. More and more of them are prescribing nowadays so it's a lot easier to get ahold of if you do want to give it a shot and your insurance covers it.

Eat anything you want as long as you cook it yourself.

>>21409475
>A healthy diet should be more than 50% carbs.
why is that? a minuscule amount is necessary for bodily functions.

>>21411579
>a minuscule amount is necessary for bodily functions.
you actually can use quite a bit if you're physically active, your muscles alone hold like 450g of carbs for energy. bare minimum to function without dying isn't the same as optimal.

I'm rich so whenever I look at myself in the mirror and I feel fat, I just tell my doctor I need another operation, and that I'll need another doctor to vacuum the fat out out me. I go about 4 or 5 times a year for liposuctions.
It's not that bad. It's a lot less stressful than the 7 or 8 abortions I get every year.

High protein

>>21411583
optimal for some people for sure, but I don't think that's good enough to be able to say that you need more than 50% for a diet to be healthy.

>>21409375 (OP)
fast until you're not fat anymore, then learn how to eat at maintenance (first part is easier)

I legitimately don't get how people become obese unless they're drinking 3 sodas a day and having 4 desserts a day as well. I've tried eating 3 full meals a day but I still come to around 3k calories.

>>21411646
I got fat when I quit playing water polo due to moving away. Couldn't stop eating like 4000+kcal/day despite burning way less calories.

>>21409375 (OP)
I lost weight and was miserable for the first few months, you probably will be too. It's a change to your fuel, of course your body is gonna react to it. I made it through because I have an autistic dedication to schedule, so when the calendar says I'm having chicken and rice tonight, then that's just what I'm having. After I got used to it though, everything became easy. Some notes:
>You're going to be hungry, from a little to a lot, throughout most of the day. Your body wants food, and you just have to ignore it. You can suppress it by eating whole grains and protein since they digest slower, and drink lots of water to fill your stomach.
>You're gonna feel lethargic and moody for a while too, probably along with a headache. Your body has gotten accustomed to quick and easy access calories in the form of simple carbs and transfats, it'll take some time for it to adjust to the slower process of healthy digestion. This was the hardest for me.
>You'll have to get used to food not being as tasty as you're used. A good stir fry or chicken bowl can be tasty, but it'll never be tasty the same way a greasy burger or pizza is. Don't commit to a diet that makes you miserable to eat, just find a couple decently healthy dishes that you can eat regularly, and make a lot of them. Don't worry about "slips" like a reese's cup or something, as long as it stays just a slip.
Set a daily calorie target, try to work towards it, and stick to that schedule. Do light cardio. That's really it.

>>21411646
I have really poor self control with sweets. like, if I have pastries, ice cream, chocolate or candy, I will eat all of it in a day or two, no matter the size. chips too. if I buy like a 6 pack of muffins or a family size bag of chips, I will eat the whole thing that day. I'm like a black hole. and yet, at my worst I have never gone over 200lbs, because as soon as I notice weight starting to accumulate I cut all that shit out because I just can't stand the feeling of carrying extra weight. it makes me feel terrible physically. but I could see how if I didn't care so much about that it could easily escalate. there's a lot of food that doesn't make you feel that full so you just keep eating and eating and the calories really start to stack up. and if you're living a sedentary lifestyle on top of that, you just balloon. I've seen it happen to me, and I've had it start to happen to me before I intervened. I really have to fight to keep myself at a decent weight.

>>21411646
I have really poor self control with sweets. like, if I have pastries, ice cream, chocolate or candy, I will eat all of it in a day or two, no matter the size. chips too. if I buy like a 6 pack of muffins or a family size bag of chips, I will eat the whole thing that day. I'm like a black hole. and yet, at my worst I have never gone over 200lbs, because as soon as I notice weight starting to accumulate I cut all that shit out because I just can't stand the feeling of carrying extra weight. it makes me feel terrible physically. but I could see how if I didn't care so much about that it could easily escalate. there's a lot of food that doesn't make you feel that full so you just keep eating and eating and the calories really start to stack up. and if you're living a sedentary lifestyle on top of that, you just balloon. I've seen it happen to other people, and I've had it start to happen to me before I intervened. I really have to fight to keep myself at a decent weight.

>>21409375 (OP)

Eat smaller meals, spread out throughout the day, with the meals gradually getting bigger then smaller like a roller coaster.

For example:

Morning-
Fig Bar and Coffee

Breakfast; English muffin with sausage and egg/cottage cheese, and two slices of American cheese. Usually pair it with some kind of juice or coffee if I'm working.

Lunch; Single pork chop (bone cut off), vegetables sautéed in butter, small scoop (half a cup) of mashed potatoes with gravy. Water with some kind of drink powder. Lunch is always biggest meal of the day.

Small (1 1/2 cup) serving of spaghetti and a glass of wine.(usually home from work by this hour, so I want to relax).

Soup; usually consume' or some kind of broth. Occasionally tomato or chicken broth with cabbage and rice. Water.

The meals varied a lot because I'd prep like 6-8 things in a single day off and pick whatever I wanted throughout the week.

If I didn't miss any workouts, I'd eat out one day a week as a reward. Usually my favorite taco stand, local Indian spot, or this Irish pub.

I permit myself one beer or glass of wine per day. If it's my reward day, I allowed myself 3 drinks. When I cut, no booze. Only water, tea, or coffee (no sugar-only honey).

You HAVE to workout to lose weight though. I generally do two workouts a day, 4 days a week. I split my sessions in the middle, so I'll workout for two days, take a day of rest, then workout two more days, then take the next two days off. Chest and Biceps/Legs/Rest/Back and Triceps/Shoulders and Abs/Rest/Rest. Simple routine.

I also jog for 2-3 miles each morning. You don't really need to do more than that to lose weight consistently.

If you're too fat to run or hurting from your last run, walk for 6-8 miles instead (basically a 2 hr walk). Even better if you wear a heavy load backpack with 30-50 lbs or a weight vest of similar weight.

Key is to eat smaller, consistently workout, and build better overall habits.

>>21410797
You know what I mean don't be obtuse. It means that they will be feeling hungry more often throughout the day compared to the average person, giving them more opportunities to feed than necessary.
I live with overweight people so I know.

>>21412038
I'm not being obtuse, I'm telling you their issue isn't hunger, it's just wanting food. Those are not the same thing.

>>21409375 (OP)
hi anon
semi-fatty here. went from 255 and am currently at 174 and i have barely worked out.
>use a calorie counting app like myfitnesspal
>track everything. every drop of oil, butter, you name it
>get a food scale unless you're a drug dealer and already have one
>measure everything
>eventually you start to memorize shit and can start eyeballing it
>avoid all diets like keto, low carb, caveman, atkins, gluten free, they're all bullshit
>calories in, calories out. you cannot outrun a bad diet and thermodynamics doesn't lie despite what fatties will say
>"omggg i have PCOS thyroid POTS autism ARFID" ignore these people as they're stupid and their diseases once again cannot cheat thermodynamics
>learn to look at menus beforehand to plan ahead for social events
>don't beat yourself up if you have a shitty eating day every so often, you didn't get fat from a few bad days. just don't make it a habit (again)
>for fucks sake stop drinking your calories

>>21411841
It's legitimately hilarious how much dieting advice swings back and forth over the decades, completely full of broscience and superstition and "my uncle said it worked for him!!!" I remember 15 years ago /fit/ was saying to eat 8 small meals throughout the day. Then they were saying to only eat once a day. Now you're saying to eat 8 small meals BUT they have to be varying in size like a roller coaster!!!!!
Weight loss and diet is such a fucking grifter's scam, nothing but bullshit passed off as fact to try and part desperate people from their money.

OP literally the only thing that matters is calories in versus calories out. If you are spending more calories than you consume you will lose weight, it's the first law of thermodynamics. Everything past that is just trying to find a lifestyle that YOU will stick with. If that's eating 20 times a day, if that's eating 1 time a day, if that's eating only vegetables, or only meat, or only bugs, whatever. As long as YOU can stick to eating fewer calories than you spend then you will lose weight.

Also never spend a single penny on any weight loss program or drug. Losing weight should save you money by consuming weight. If you are spending any money on weight loss you are buying into hype and "get thin quick" scams. Yes this includes GLPs. Just stop eating bro.

>>21409475
i will argue against that. for a normal person, who isn't trying to lose weight, carbs are important. for a fat fuck, cutting out carbs COMPLETELY is the best thing you could do. carbs are long term energy, your body WILL store them. the advice to cut out carbs isn't for stick figures

>>21409375 (OP)
>Have you lost weight?
Yes
>How did you manage to do it without being miserable?
By eating smaller portions of healthier food

>>21410239
>I almost wish I took up drinking but that wasn't an option in high school.
alcohol is calorie dense as fuck. it is the worst thing to have if you are trying to lose weight. and no, it isn't as easy to quit as you are implying. there is a reason there are alcoholics anonymous and rehabilitation clinics in every single fucking town big or small.
if you want an addiction that keeps you away from food, try nicotine. you wont want to eat when youve just put a zyn in. they last an hour and cost 50 cents a pop. they have a lingering flavor like a mint and are perfect for 'im bored, i want to occupy my mouth with something'. highly addictive, however.

>>21411646
it's doritos/donuts/oeanut butter/sandwich buns/too much oil

>>21410239
>I can't lose weight because my nanny state won't pay for weight loss injections for me!
I hope your inevitable fatal heart attack comes soon

>>21409375 (OP)
>Fatlon you sonna of bitch!

>>21412085

>It's legitimately hilarious how much dieting advice swings back and forth over the decades
This is literally how most people ate for thousands of years, especially those who worked laborious jobs (i.e. calorie deficient). If you're weightlifting and working out heavy (twice a day is heavy) then yes, you need calories in that format. It's about not trying to raise your glycemic load too high and provide steady energy throughout the day, especially when your body is healing during rest days.

>Now you're saying to eat 8 small meals
There's clearly 5 in my example retard.
>they have to be varying in size like a roller coaster!!!!!
It's a visual reference you fuckwit. Are you that much of an aspie?

Can't count and can't figure out we're saying the same thing differently. Almost like you're just parroting what some douchebag youtube trainer told you OR you pride yourself on being a broke bitch.

>Weight loss and diet is such a fucking grifter's scam, nothing but bullshit passed off as fact to try and part desperate people from their money.
I literally gave OP advice for free. It's up to him to pick what he thinks might work.

Me personally? I gain weight like crazy, muscle and fat and for some reason, varying my portions is what has consistently worked to keep me from putting on too much fat but not lose much muscle.

>Don't spend le' money!
Trust me, none of us are as retarded as you :)

>>21409375 (OP)
Losing weight is easy, OP. Ozampic, taking up smoking and cocaine.

I went from 600 in 2023 to now under 180. Fuck you.

>>21411646
how do you not understand? no matter how fat you think you are being, fatties eat way more than you could imagine. these monsters have completely given up maintenance. the fact you even think about how many meals you have a day, let alone calories at all, is more than a fat pig does. 400+ pound club eats extra large pizzas several times a day, with a tub of butter for dipping sauce, and several 2 liter soda bottles to wash it down. they remember dessert too. they don't have hobbies to break that, they just eat. go ahead and check a fph thread on /fit/, watch a hamplanet swim in a bathtub full of nesquick proudly. your answers will be fulfilled. fuck fat "people"

>>21410726
You should do your best to suck it up and go see the doctor. Nowadays clinics aren't going to "shame" you because they want patients coming back. If your blood pressure or sugar are too high, that's going to be damaging your body before you notice symptoms, and medicine is decent at doing damage control at least until you get your shit together and at least lose a little (10%) of body fat.

Meth.
Can’t be that bad, Hitler used it and was quite the high achiever (paving the way for his black sun worshiping, occultist pals to install globo)

>>21412133
It's tempting, but I'm already here, no point adding a second addiction.
>>21412143
I'm going to lose weight in spite of that, anon. One way or another. If God has decided that I take this journey without the latest and greatest weight loss drug, who am I to argue?

>>21412227
>fatties eat way more than you could imagine
That's probably the root of not understanding then

>>21409375 (OP)
Haven't lost it all as I fell off hard last year and gained back some weight.
But.
I went keto, followed its rules properly. Eating roughly 1700-1800kcal a day, and did not eat at all on Saturday, and had a high calorie day on Sunday. Walked 2-3km three times a week, with an additional 5km walk on Saturday.
Lost 40kg(88lb) over the year.
Ultimately, it comes down to "eat at a calorie deficit, drink only water and low/zero calorie drinks, and exercise regularly".
There's no easy shortcut. Even if you get surgery, if you don't fix your eating habits, you'll just put the weight back on.
So nut up, and push through the hunger pangs. All there is to it.

>>21409375 (OP)
i counted calories and lost like 20kg in half a year

it's all just calories in, calories out

your body already burns around 2000 calories every day automatically (for exact amount, google a calorie calculator). you only need to eat less than that each day and you'll start to lose weight.

one day i've limited myself to 1600 calories a day. after 2 weeks, i've started losing a kg per week.
keep that up for a year and you'll be down like 50kg.

you don't have to go hungry, just eat low-calorie foods instead. if you've already reached your calorie limit for the day, just eat soup. put 500ml water in a water heater, boil it, pour it in a bowl, throw in a beef-broth cube, boom, sorted. warm, filling, tasty meal under 10 calories. if you have 100 calories left, throw in a chicken meat hot-dog or one or two dumplings.

you can still eat everything you want, just usually less of it. i still eat chocolate and fast food and rice and noodles and bacon and cheese and pizza every week.

only "hard" part is that it's a bit annoying at first to have to look up the calories for everything you eat every day. it's a lot easier, when you're making your own food at home, rather than eating out. but even then you can google general calorie amounts, like "calories sub sandwich"
but after like 2 months you'll have memorized the calories of most of your usual foods anyways

>>21412333
>only "hard" part is that it's a bit annoying at first to have to look up the calories for everything you eat every day. it's a lot easier, when you're making your own food at home, rather than eating out. but even then you can google general calorie amounts, like "calories sub sandwich"
>but after like 2 months you'll have memorized the calories of most of your usual foods anyways
Using a nutrition app for this is also pretty great. I don't really need it now, but initially, I would use the app to build calorie-deficit meals that met my required macros. Eventually, through use and repetition, you just end up knowing what ingredients and foods to go for without needing to look it up, yeah.

>>21409375 (OP)
>Have you lost weight?
Down to 83kg from 140+kg in one year.
>How did you manage to do it without being miserable?
Digestive enzymes, specifically proteolytic enzymes.
>I’m fat.
I'm now skinny with a tonne of flabby belly skin. Like a deflated balloon.
Turns out lots of fat guys are just skinny guys wearing fat suits

>>21409381
This. People who don't experience fatness just dismiss it.
>just limit calories, fatty!

You do limit calories when you cut carbs. The fat sates your appetite far more efficiently than bread and sugar and pasta, which fat people crave and overeat.
If it were just a matter of willpower it'd not be an issue.

>>21409421
You will never understand.

>>21409375 (OP)
I have lost 80 in about a year, count your calories - which means you should preferrably only eat what you cooked yourself - and eat less than 2000 calories per day, how much less is up to how much you can tolerate, I could handle days of eating less than 1000 calories which is how I lost so nuch weight so quickly. You will feel miserable at times if you do what I did but just remember what your goal is.

By the way, don't just blindingly accept everyone saying eat less than 2000 calories.
You shouldn't go below 1000calories of your maintainence calorie count. If you're a fat fuck, and your body needs 3000 calories to maintain that fat fuck body, you shouldn't be eating 1700 or 1500 or whatever because thats just dangerous for your health.
So figure out what your maintenance calorie intake is. Then eat at a minus 6-700 calorie as a starting point. And keep adjusting it as you lose weight, lowering your daily calorie intake as you become lighter and thinner.
Doing too much and going too fast can really fuck you over later.

>>21409375 (OP)
I quit eating bread and pasta and sugar and focused on meats and cheeses and eggs and vegetables with some nuts and fruit. Lots of bacon chicken mozzarella caesar salad kinds of dinners. Breakfast would be a cream and yogurt and berry smoothie with a couple hard boiled eggs and some salted nuts.
I've never found the diet to be miserable at all. Just two really substantial meals a day is all I need, but more importantly all I want. Because soon after you quit sugar you never want sugar. It doesn't sound true until you do it. Your cravings for the other foods fade. And if you want to cheat now and then you can. Your body doesn't like it much though. That's just been my experience. I wouldn't go back.

>>21410678
how about for amylase from the pancreas? i think starches are mostly undigested prior to leaving your stomach because the acidity quickly deactivates the saliva amylase

>>21412511
>the copy numbers of AMY2A (AMY2A-CN) and AMY2B (AMY2B-CN), which encode pancreatic amylase, vary from 1 to more than 6 copies.
there's still a pretty big difference for that too

I only eat two small meals a day, no snacks.
I fill my belly with black tea and water otherwise.
Get used to going to bed hungry and you'll be on the right track.
It's hard to break habits but is fun to experience new things.
I know food fills the void in your depressing life but starting a new journey can do that too. It will always be there, you don't have to eat like it's going out of style.

>>21409375 (OP)
I’ve lost about 100lbs, started at 297, now hover around 200. Still cutting. Here’s what actually worked:

>Calculate your BMR and eat under it.
If you burn 2.5k calories/day and eat 2k consistently, the fat will melt off. Don’t guess and track intake.

>Pick a diet you can stick with long-term.
For me, it's mostly meat and whole foods: beef, eggs, fish, veggies. No processed garbage. That said, weight loss is still CICO (Calories In, Calories Out). If you really want cake, fit it into your daily calories and move on.

>Stop drinking your calories.
No juice, no full-sugar soda, no frappucinos. Water, sparkling water, black coffee, or diet soda if you're desperate.

>Try fasting.
Intermittent fasting or OMAD (one meal a day) can help if you’ve got no self-control. Skipping breakfast and lunch is a cheat code once you adapt.


This is 90% mindset. Hunger is temporary, cravings pass, and motivation is a lie, it’s about showing up when you don’t feel like it. I also didn't mention working out but it goes without saying that will help too.

I lost 6.5kg in 1.5 months but alternate day fasting
I was eating like normal on non fasting days, and only drinking water on fasting days. Pretty simple desu
That said, losing weight is overrated, building muscle is a lot better way to be healthy

>>21410129
>I haven't eaten in 22 days
Impressive. My dad did 21 days once, he was going for 28 days but claimed his heart started feeling weird. I don’t think he was taking electrolytes though, just water.

>>21409375 (OP)
I just ate less carbs and sugar and seed oils and processed food and more meat and protein and fat. And restricted food intake slightly.

>>21409447
choccy milk is damn good, i treat myself after a long run, the only time i drink it

>>21409488
fiber is critical for gut health, which affects mood, immune system, sugar/insulin regulation etc... fiber also slows down digestion and helps stabilize insulin sensitivity, but people just ignore fiber

>>21410379
>44 lbs in 2 years
>already drugging
just cut off your legs, you will lose more weight, fatty

>>21409375 (OP)
When I was younger dropping soda did the trick since I was pretty active. As an adult I found intermittent fasting to work pretty well as a way of controlling my calories. Cutting waaaaaaaay back on the drinking also helped, I'm pretty sure that alcohol is just about the whole reason I got fat again. Currently I'm gaining weight again because my job is demanding more of my life and I'm having to fall back on fast food and the like. I'm thinking of going onto a rotation of soups/stews that I can keep in a thermos so I can get back to IF.

It's amazing that 40 years after the diet and fitness crazes started people still can't come to a consensus on what a "healthy" diet is. If I want to hack my way into weight loss I do keto because it destroys my appetite and craving for sweets/carbs therefore making eating fewer calories very easy.

>>21413575
I should mention if you don't eat in a way that is sustainable for life you should expect to get fat again. Keto is a hack but I would never eat keto forever.

>>21413575
It isn't that amazing, a new diet is theorised and it's only after it's tested by enough people that any unforeseen issues crop up and we move on to a new idea

>>21413683
What were the unforeseen issues of paleo aka the antisemitism diet?

>>21410779
always feeling hungry is a possible symptom of broken or imbalanced insulin sensitivity, best way to fix this? fasting and exercise, fasting to avoid constantly triggering your insulin pathways and exercise to improve insulin sensitivity

>without being miserable
it's the foods that are high in sugar that were making me miserable

>>21409375 (OP)
>Have you lost weight?
yes
>How did you manage to do it without being miserable?
Moving out of my parent's+getting a fast paced demanding job+hitting the weights+controlling every single calories that went in my body and being in charge of my shopping