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Anonymous No.21418889 >>21418953 >>21418978 >>21418983 >>21418994 >>21419069 >>21419080 >>21419107 >>21419142 >>21419218 >>21419438
redpill me on umami, is it real?
Anonymous No.21418897 >>21418936 >>21419549
>Red pill
>Blue pill
>Black pill
>White pill
>Pozzed
>Umami
>Jenkem
>Woke
>Gaslight
>Straw man
>John Wick
I have no idea what the fuck you lot are talking about half the time.
Anonymous No.21418936 >>21419118
>>21418897
It's probably because you are from reddit or Facebook. Fuck off, retard.
Anonymous No.21418953
>>21418889 (OP)
how many times are you gonna make this thread
Anonymous No.21418978
>>21418889 (OP)
>is it real?
it's not.
Anonymous No.21418983 >>21418986
>>21418889 (OP)
Umami won a long long time ago, cutie. If you don't get it by now you'll probably never get it.
Anonymous No.21418986 >>21419078
>>21418983
but I have to display my anger at japanese words on the weeb site I frequent because I'm very special
grrrrrrr
Anonymous No.21418994 >>21419039
>>21418889 (OP)
It’s a Japanese word that means savory I. English. Using umami as an English speaker is stupid because we already have a word for umami.
Anonymous No.21419039 >>21419066
>>21418994
Wrong. Do you say rice wine instead of sake? Noodles instead of spaghetti? Umami has a very specific definition. It is not the same thing as savory.
Anonymous No.21419044
I have a hard time quantifying anything as savory.
Anonymous No.21419052
not this fucking thread again dominating the board again
Anonymous No.21419066 >>21419071 >>21419075 >>21419484
>>21419039
Lots of people do call spaghetti noodles and sake rice wine though. Bad argument. Umami means savory in English. Therefore there is no reason to use it in English other than being a pretentious weeb or an obnoxious foodie.
Anonymous No.21419069
>>21418889 (OP)
Anonymous No.21419071
>>21419066
>Umami means savory in English
Wrong. They're different things.
Anonymous No.21419075 >>21419147 >>21420625
>>21419066
Well you have answered my question to agree with me exactly. Savory is a category and group of flavors. Umami is the precise flavors made by exaxt compounds. Just like sugar creates the sensation of sweetness, glutamate creates the sensation of umami. Some foods that are savory may not be umami, but when we say a food is umami we know exactly that it contains high levels of glutamate and/or the other umami compounds. We say spaghetti or sake instead of noodles or rice wine to add precision to our communication. Already starting with the ad hom and terrible "because I say so" arguments, pretty funny.
Anonymous No.21419078
>>21418986
This post will be proven true tens of times throughout this thread's hellish existence.
Anonymous No.21419080
>>21418889 (OP)
hey great we really needed this thread again I just don't think the discussion is done after the last 15 times.
Anonymous No.21419107
>>21418889 (OP)
That's a weird and Japanese sounding word. I don't know what it means. It simply does not exist because I say it does not exist.
Anonymous No.21419118 >>21419162
>>21418936
Sure thing kid.
Anonymous No.21419142
>>21418889 (OP)
No, it's not real and the "people" who claim otherwise aren't real either
Anonymous No.21419147 >>21419166
>>21419075
Does it not embarrass you to be this massive of a faggot?
Anonymous No.21419162 >>21419167
>>21419118
I just know you are the Canadian jeet faggot. Kys.
Anonymous No.21419166 >>21419427
>>21419147
Aww lil cutie is getting angwy. Sorry that the truth about umami is so painful to those little ears of yours!
Bad argument btw. ;)
Anonymous No.21419167
>>21419162
I'm not Canadian, I'm not Indian, I'm not a rwdditor and I'm not a faggot. But you stay mad, champ.
Anonymous No.21419172
Umamichads calmly and eloquently creating ever more refined and potent arguments.

Savorcels already seething uncontrollably. LMAO
Anonymous No.21419218 >>21419440
>>21418889 (OP)
It's monosodium glutamate.
Anonymous No.21419427 >>21419699
>>21419166
>faggot continues to act like a gigantic flaming cum-gargling, drag-queen-story-houring faggot
Umami is no more real than your "vagina"
Anonymous No.21419438 >>21419479 >>21419482
>>21418889 (OP)
When did the word "savoury" become obsolete?
Anonymous No.21419440
>>21419218
I'm allergic to that
Anonymous No.21419479 >>21419482
>>21419438
It's not obsolete at all, it's still a commonly used and very useful word.
Anonymous No.21419482
>>21419438
>>21419479
Part of what is so useful about umami being adopted into English is that it's a whole new description of a different taste so both can be unique and precise in their own ways. It's the glory of English.
Anonymous No.21419484 >>21419486 >>21419545
>>21419066
>mmmmm I sure do love this savoury piece of cheesecake! So rich in savoury flavour!

Unless you mean savory which is an herb commonly used to make things savoury.
Anonymous No.21419486 >>21419545
>>21419484
I also love the wonderful savoury flavour of this bacon and syrup! So, very, very savoury!!!
Anonymous No.21419488 >>21419524
>umami
>wagyu
>sakura
>emoji
we can't stop winning jap bros
Anonymous No.21419524
>>21419488
I like Cardcaptors too
Anonymous No.21419545 >>21422051
>>21419484
>>21419486
Sweet and savory are incredibly common flavor combinations. I don't get what point you're trying to make
Anonymous No.21419549 >>21419619 >>21420098
>>21418897
The worst is "based". It's like they're little gay newbies who've seen it on know your meme and think they're oldfags by saying it. Cringe as fuck
Anonymous No.21419619
>>21419549
Based oldfag contrarian
Anonymous No.21419699
>>21419427
You post is what losing looks like. Enjoy being the loser loser. Umami won and that is an objective fact. Your mother's virginity was at stake and now it is mine forever, loser.
Anonymous No.21420074 >>21420492
you losers have literally been arguing over this one word for WEEKS. get a life.
Anonymous No.21420098
>>21419549
Cringe.
Anonymous No.21420134
For me it's the flavor of your mommy's milk.
Anonymous No.21420463
4chan is an umami website.
Anonymous No.21420492 >>21420764
>>21420074
It’s one retard who thinks cheesecake is a savory food.
Anonymous No.21420625 >>21420637
>>21419075
>Umami is the precise flavors made by exaxt compounds
The word "umami" literally just means "delicious flavour". How is that precise at all.
Anonymous No.21420637 >>21420692 >>21420697
>>21420625
Wrong. It is the name of the fifth primary taste. The umami receptors on your tongue get stimulated by glutamate, inosinate, guanylate and a few other more niche ribonucleotides. The word describes the taste/sensation from these specific taste receptors.

The word has been adopted world wide to mean this.
Anonymous No.21420692 >>21420720
>>21420637
And kawaii has been adopted into the Oxford dictionary with some nonsense specification. It's still just the Japanese word for cute.
Anonymous No.21420697 >>21420720
>>21420637
>The word has been adopted world wide to mean this.
Where? China? Italy? India?
Anonymous No.21420720 >>21420756
>>21420692
Sad you cannot understand such an incredibly simple concept. You really can't see the difference between kawaii and umami?

>>21420697
Everywhere. Umami is a well understood part of human biology.
Anonymous No.21420723 >>21420735
annoying meme word to defend bland watery japanese food
Anonymous No.21420735
>>21420723
Poor guy has never had real umami before. Sad! Fyi all the fast food you engorge yourself on uses umami to create a more addictive flavor
Anonymous No.21420756 >>21420768 >>21420770
>>21420720
The term Umami isn’t used in China, Italy, or India, dummy.
Anonymous No.21420764
>>21420492
Um, it's made with cheese sweaty.
Anonymous No.21420768 >>21420811
>>21420756
I asked the google and it said they do use the word in Italy. Not a valid source, but funny.

We are also talking about an english word adopted from the Japanese. You know like spaghetti or karaoke? Karaoke translates literally to empty orchestra according to google. We have adopted the word to mean something different and specific in english! Pretty cool how languages can evolve right?
Anonymous No.21420770
>>21420756
Spaghetti is not adopted from Japanese, but it is an adopted word. Get real with it.
Anonymous No.21420811 >>21420822
>>21420768
>The word has been adopted world wide to mean this.

Not by the Chinese or Indians. That’s nearly half of the global population. Umami is only used by the Japanese and and westerners who are into food science.
Anonymous No.21420822 >>21420832 >>21420832
>>21420811
You're missing the point entirely, champ.
Anonymous No.21420832 >>21420865
>>21420822
The point is you make spurious claims like
>The word has been adopted world wide to mean this.
And then you refuse to accept being wrong when it's pointed out you're wrong, and you move the goalposts as in
>>21420822
Anonymous No.21420865 >>21420890
>>21420832
You're still missing the point, champ, but nice try I guess. There was a point in the development of food science when they discovered that umami compounds were actually the fifth primary taste. There was no word for that. Umami is the name for it in english. I'm sure india and china have a word for the fifth primary taste. Sorry that you missed that point so badly, champ.
Anonymous No.21420890 >>21420898
>>21420865
India and China believe in more primary tastes than the five you believe in and have their own words for them. Why do you have the final say on taste? You claim
>The word has been adopted world wide to mean this
But that isn't even remotely true. Africans don't use the word umami. Latin Americans don't use the word umami. It seems like when you say the whole world has adopted the word umami you mean Japan, and English speaking western nations. That's an extreme global minority in case you weren't aware.
Anonymous No.21420898 >>21421011
>>21420890
You're building up a strawman to attack a point I made unrelated to the crux of my argument while failing to address my real point. Biology determined the truth not your birth village in africa lmfao. Try to stay focused, champ.
Anonymous No.21421011 >>21421019
>>21420898
>The word has been adopted world wide to mean this
Those are your words. You have a very narrow definition of "world wide". Quoting your very words isn't a strawman argument.
Anonymous No.21421019
>>21421011
You fail to comprehend anything I am saying. Come back with a proper response if you want to continue discussing umami with the intellectual umamichads.
Anonymous No.21422051
>>21419545
Sweet and savoury is an impossible flavour combination. Anything sweet is not savoury by default. To say otherwise highlights the point which is that you have no idea what English words mean and how they are used.

Either way, cheesecake, bacon and pancakes, a peanut butter sandwich, baklava etc are undeniably very umami based foods and no one ever, ever would refer to them as savoury. There is no debate here, the definitions are clear and they are different. You only keep dragging this through the mud out of disingenuous trolling and an attempt to mangle my language. You're pathetic.