Thread 21422033

This thread is for discussing teas, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.

info: types of tea, where to get tea, how to brew tea
https://rentry.org/teageneral

previous thread: >>21396796

*spills water all over the thread*

Can someone please spam the thread with dozens of webms of chinks spilling water? Thanks!

Hot tea on a 100° day. Now I know why my grandpa liked hot coffee on a hot day.

>>21422044
I really didn't think a tripcode was that big of an ask.

next wave of Farmerleaf raws is supposedly 10 cakes. we can expect:
>Meng Noy priced similarly to LME small trees
>new mid-price Jingmai blend
>Na Lang (this got very good reviews)
>probably new Fa Zhan He, as the old one is sold out
not sure what else

>>21422071
>Na Lang (this got very good reviews)
I mean It better at $140.
There are yiwu cakes from haiwan/mengoku for way less.

>>21422071
What does new Fa Zhan He mean? Summer harvest?

>>21422099
no, I just mean a 2025 spring release

>>21422108
Oh! I thought that happened already. I'm broke this year and have been trying my best to ignore releases. It isn't going well.

>>21422115
puerh prices have gone down this year, so it's not a bad idea to get something
on FL Miyun and Banpen are down by like 30% of last year's price

One of these days I'm going to buy one of these and fill it with puer. It will be my tea hoard. I'm not even joking.

Have any bongs or euros had any expirence with tealyra? Im interested in some of their products and I like that they list the approximate caffine content but idk if they actually sell good tea and if they are reliable ect

>>21422687
Civ V has permanently ruined this shape for me.

>>21422687
https://youtu.be/nTkk2N00bbY

>>21422137
My sheng cooler is getting pretty full. It's not very aesthetically pleasing to look at, I kind of want to replace it with a sealed cabinet or something nicer looking.

>>21423131
>It's not very aesthetically pleasing to look at
Hopefully it looks better than this.

>>21423223
Lol yeah it's not disorganized like that. That looks like a garbage can. I don't know how anybody could put a cake away with even making an attempt to fold the wrapper.
It's just that having a bunch of cakes, some of them expensive, sitting in an igloo cooler feels sort of trashy I guess. Like having a nice wine or whiskey collection sitting on those cheap ass wire closet racks instead of putting them on a decent looking bar or wine rack.

>>21423223
my tea cooler is honestly even worse than this

>>21423361
A reproposed refrigerator might look a bit classier, but even that isn't great.

>>21423430
Some purpose-made appliance could be cool, but it's obviously too big to ship from afar.

>>21422037
*pours powdered tea leaves in your eyes*

>>21423223
>Folks you've seen the piss drawer, now behold the poo shelf!

>>21423430
Yeah I've thought about that, it would look better but like you said it's still not great.
>>21423436
That would be nice.
You can buy large cabinet cigar humidors, but they're expensive (picrel is $1300) and the shelves/inside lining are spanish cedar, and that has a smell that I wouldn't want transfering to my tea.

>>21422252
I feel like approximate caffeine content is useless with produce that can vary wildly

When you buy say grocery brand matcha, does it come from shaded plants or is it just powedered and thus matcha?

>>21423987
trve matcha has to be shaded and produced in Japan
but I'm sure there is a lot of fake matcha out there that's just any powdered green tea

>>21423987
>matcha
That's just spirulina powder, call it by it's right name

>>21423583
Humidors are designed for like ~70% humidity isnt that too high for tea anyway?
>>21423894
Cant vary THAT much

>>21424219
You still have to control the humidity in humidors with a humidifier, bovedas, humidity beads, or whatever. The humidor just seals it in. The ones that come with humidifiers you can change the setpoint to whatever you want.

>>21424284
Yeah im aware.
You can get some glass "Tupperware" with wooden lids and some humidity packs instead of a humidor and its just as good. Its how I store my cigars. Probably not ideal for tea tho as it takes up so much more space

>>21424284
>>21424301
Id assumed you meant with the humidifier or whatever included. Without those its an expensive cabinet that smells funny

>>21424219
>~70% humidity isnt that too high for tea anyway?
60-70% is what people often aim for with puerh. It makes it age quicker.

>>21424301
>>21424303
Yeah I would just get a normal cabinet but they aren't designed to hold in humidity, and the cedar smell of a humidor is why I wouldn't buy one for tea.
I want a big cabinet for tea because I have too much tea and I know I'm going to buy more and because it would look nice.
I might end up just buying a bunch of big tupperwares to hold rh and a cabinet to hold the tupperwares.

>>21423430
I use a wine fridge similar to this. I love it. The insides look similar to the photo. I also have a bunch of coolers. There's one that I like, but they stopped making them and their replacements don't seal as well.
>>21423436
The reality is cakes come in all kinds of sizes, or bricks, tuos, sleeves of tuos, pouches, samples. Some cakes are loose, some are kept in mylar pouches. There are so many different variations that expecting an appliance can make things nice and neat is fantasy.

Any Awazon maxxers get this sample? No clue what it is. 1901 brings up nothing on the site.

>>21424917
Pic real :/

>>21424316
Oh thats ideal then. Maybe the 62% humidity packs for humidors would be good for storing puer then, you could just put it in a sealed container with one/some of those :)
>>21424325
Yeah some of the big glass "tupperware"s with bamboo lids and a humidity pack meant for humidors would be ideal.
The ones I use for cigars are made by boveda but im sure other brands are fine. They come in a variety of humidity % and sizes

I think square tea tables look nice.

>>21425102
>Maybe the 62% humidity packs for humidors would be good for storing puer then, you could just put it in a sealed container with one/some of those :)
Yep, that's pretty much what people do

>>21425219
That's a nice spill in that pic

>>21424919
No idea. I haven't even had any free sample from them, except in one case where the thing I ordered was out of stock and it was compensation.
What's it look n smell like outside of the bag?

Turns out my tea buddy makes a good teapot lid holder. Pretty cool.

>>21425577
4.3g. Smells old. The faintest faintest memory of something green. Seemingly something super dank for them to bother with such a small amount?

>>21425791
Mysterious. Could be worth sending Zhang an email to ask.

>>21422033 (OP)
The heat is killing me, everyone hand over your best Iced Tea recipes.
Made a Yerba Mate syrup the other day, added lemon zest, cardamom, cinnamon amd lime juce. Tasty but I think I put too much of the spices, can't discern the mate flavor.

>>21426681
You want sum Iced Tea? Go buy a bottle. Homemade is always shit and never thirst quenching.
Drink your tea hot.

>>21426681
I mostly just drink cold brewed yerba mate in the summer. Sometimes with springs of fresh mint
It's handy because unlike with cold brew tea, you don't have to wait a long time at all, it brews almost as quickly with ice cold water as with hot water

>>21426681
I put five or six grams of Black Gold Bi Luo Chun into a mason jar and add boiling water for five to ten minutes. Then I strain it into another mason jar and stick it in the fridge until the afternoon. That's it.

>>21426681
I let a carafe of puer/oolong steep for a few minutes then strain that into a hyperchiller. Drops it to about 75f. Then it goes over ice. Simple syrup or cheong to taste.
https://hyperchiller.us/pages/new-improved-hyperchiller%C2%AE-v2-iced-coffee-maker

>live in a very hard water area
>on a trip right now to a normal place with soap water
>all my tea tastes weird and soapy
fuck

>>21422037
>spill
Not with my laminar flow I won't

>>21426842
Very nice

New gushu dropping soon

>>21427415
Is the Chaozhou 3 cup boat thing typically only for serving three people? Do people serve themselves with the three cups for the sake of tradition?

>>21427448
>tradition
lol

>>21427448
Some purists do 3 cups no matter the number of guests. Others will do 1 cup per guest regardless of tradition.

Also, there a regional differences. In Hong Kong, for example, 4 cups is more typical.

WHY DO THEY SPILL IT?

>>21427688
You see, it's kind of like coitus.....

Imagine only spending 3k on tea

https://teadb.org/dashboard/

Any recs from the new Vietsun drop?

Who the fuck fell for this shit? If it was possible to grow decent tea in the uk they would have been doing it for hundreds of years
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1dngyk69d0o

>>21428295
>If it was possible to grow decent tea in the uk they would have been doing it for hundreds of years
It is possible to grow tea in uk, but the costs and yield would make it expensive, so you just import sri lankan tea instead.

>>21427865
I've spent about $4k this year, but I'm done for the rest of the year, unless there's something on sale for black friday that looks really good.

>>21428216
I've had Son La, Giang Pang and Cao Bo
Cao Bo was great value at 28$, but this time they went for a more expensive "single trees" version
my notes:
>VietSun Cao Bo 2024
vegetal, underripe melon cucumber, creamy, honey sweetness, soft
>VietSun Giang Pang Spring 2024
vegetal, sour plum, a bit of smoke, sweet, maybe just a bit more punchy but not too much
>VietSun Son La 2024
sweet, citrusy, soft, fa zhan heish but less green and more citrus

>>21428302
Yeah I ment possible to do it commercially

>>21428315
I also had a tiny free sample of Tua Chua:
>VietSun Tua Chua 2024
tropical fruit, forest, good body with weighty mouthfeel. some darker notes? yiwu / jinggu flavor profile, but more punchy than tang fang liang zi

>>21427865
>>21428303
Are tea prices reaply this bananas.
I'm a /ctg/ guy, I pay less than $100 a month and drink some of the best coffee around.

>>21427865
interesting vid but i feel like a lot of it is just needless junk info, if your job isnt buying tea you dont need all that. also i spend maybe £1k/yr on tea and its still too much, amount, i cant drink though the stuff i have and my price is probably pushing $0.3/gram
https://youtu.be/kEqT1LuFKdM

>>21428439
yeah but remember with gongfu 5g will give you over a liter of tea. coffee you dont re brew over and over

>>21428439
I bought a lot of tea (just added it up, 8.8 kilos in total...), and most of what I bought was on the more expensive side.
Part of that was wanting to stock up in case the tariff retardation went on for a long time, and part of it was because after drinking tea for a few years now I've figured out what I really like to drink.
But yeah, it's enough tea to last me like 3 years, so it works out to just a little over $100 a month.

>>21428439
no, tea is just easier to hoard. especially when that guy is drinking tea that benefits from aging and is simply buying a lot of it to age
the most expensive tea is probably way pricier than the most expensive coffee. but that stuff is only for Chinese millionaires and party officials.

If you want to very good, premium but not "nuveau riche chinese luxury product" tier tea, it's reasonable to assume a cost of 2$ per litre. so a litre of great tea a day will cost you 60$ over a month

>>21428295
>Who the fuck fell for this shit?
Sadly, the "buy local only" folks are easily duped, and don't understand regional specialization.

>>21428216
>>21428315
Other than being looser in the cake (??), is Vietnamese Puer noticeably distinct from the stuff from Hunan? I'm intrigued by it.

>>21428439
You could spend $600 in a month drinking "top-shelf" stuff twice-a-day, but very few people do that.
I've been drinking a cheap Ripe Puer durring the day and a mid-range Raw Puer at night. This amounts to 2.40$ a day, or 72.00$ per month.

>>21428543
there are tea plantations in the uk, the scam seems to be he was selling 'scottish survivable' tea trees when in reality they were just random tea plants from italy, so the plants all died and he also sold random tea to hotels claiming it was from scotland.
>>21428295
it is possible but migrant slave labour in india/kenya and china is cheaper than minimum wage + worker rights uk labour

>>21428546
I feel like the processing can be a bit different, probably with either more or less oxidation than the more standardised amount they do in Yunnan
of the four VietSun raws I tried, Giang Pian and Cao Bo were more different from Yunnan shengs I've had (with atypical vegetal and fruity notes), and the other two were more similar IMO

>>21428642
Makes sense. Thanks for the insight.
Also, I mixed up Hunan and Yunnan somehow. 0_0

>>21428553
>72.00$ per month
72 a month gives you access to some very top tier coffee subscriptions(or 3-4 various bags from your roasters of choice).

>>21428926
yeah, but the top tier of coffee is just "better roasted beans"
the top tier of tea is "these four tea trees have been growing since 800 AD and their leaves are only given to dignitaries" (real Da Hong Pao) or "this tea has been carefully aged since the 1920s, no one knows how it was made anymore as the knowledge was lost in the cultural revolution" (Song Ping Hao)

>>21428951
Varietal, terroir, and processing my friend. The roaster's job is to not fuck the inherent quality of the crop. Currently sipping on some sidra from a 4 hectare farm in an Ecuadorean cloud forest. The yuunan plateau is a fake (temperate) cloud forest.

>>21428972
>Varietal, terroir, and processing my friend. The roaster's job is to not fuck the inherent quality of the crop.
its the same with tea. we can all wax poetically about our chosen brand's ad pitch.

>>21429126
I also buy and drink tea. Its significantly more expensive. Lots of resources out there to learn so you don't say stupid shit like
>the top tier of coffee is just "better roasted beans"

>>21429151
>The roaster's job is to not fuck the inherent quality of the crop.
>better beans, roasted
gg.
how much you paying per gram of coffee and how much liquid you getting from it.

>>21429151
I buy green beans to roast my own coffee and it's definitely more expensive than the tea I drink, because I exclusively drink ToH Gunpowder with mint I grow myself. Whereas my Coffee is usually some high grade Colombian from one of two regions I specifically seek out that I spend the time to roast myself.

If all you drink is store bought roasts or starbucks blends for coffee, but you drink 30 year Puerh for your tea then the opposite will be true.

>>21429164
2c a gram for grade 1 wush wush from a renowned producer. Volume depends on how I make it.
>>21429173
I also roast. The point I was making to the original anon was $72 gets you 2lbs of Sey a month. Very good beans from a very good roaster vs
>cheap Ripe Puer durring the day
>mid-range Raw Puer at night

>>21429190
>Volume depends on how I make it.
right is that 10g for an expresso or you making 100g in a french press?

because im spending ~£1.80/day for 1.5 litres of tea

>>21429212
For 1.5 litres of cheap and midrange tea.

>>21429229
nah bitch my tea is bespoke. got a tree just for my personal use, hand picked by the farmer's virginal daughter. party member certified, snuck out through Vietnam to avoid tariffs.

>Meanwhile a single bottle of wine is 20-30$ in Canada

It's all relative.

The real spending is on teaware. A high-grade Yixing teapot can cost as much as fifty-thousand dollars. Even the entry-level clay teapots are a couple of hundred bucks apiece, and you're meant to have one per tea type because of their porous natures. Of course, none of this is necessary.

>>21429370
That's for "real" teapots, you can get something half-good starting at 60$.

>>21429370
it's a bit like saying the real spending with coffee is for vintage early european royal court teacups
I guess? but it's kind of a separate hobby at that point

>In addition to the usual beverage regulations aimed at ensuring proper storage and safe handling, imported tea was required for decades to pass a literal taste test before it could be sold in the United States. The task fell to a group of Food and Drug Administration (FDA) appointees, who would gather annually in a converted Navy warehouse in Brooklyn to smell, slosh, sip, and spit the various oolongs, greens, and Earl Greys that tea merchants sought to sell to Americans.

>This was the federal Board of Tea Experts. It was officially terminated on September 19, 2023.
This was NOT ok

>>21428556
>Cheaper than minimum wage
That wasnt a thing untill the late 90s. the UK has been going crazy about tea since 1650ish. Its not about that at all its about yeild.

>>21429544
fuck biden

Are gohōbi (london based ceramics company) gaiwans worth it? I really like their designs but I get the feeling they are just importing these from China and that if I do enough digging I can find them for less. Also apparently their glass ones have a habit of exploding

>>21429544
>It was officially terminated on September 19, 2023.
*taps mic*
DEATH TO JOE BIDEN! DEATH TO HIS BLOODLINE!
Thank you.

>>21429663
>I get the feeling they are just importing these from China
Many such cases. Google image search can be useful here. This one, for example can be purchased from Aliexpress for something like 20$ less.

>Also apparently their glass ones have a habit of exploding
Based

>>21429663
>Also apparently their glass ones have a habit of exploding
You're going to spill shit everywhere anyway aren't you? Might as well spill everything.

>>21429663
no idea, they look nice. just know if you import teaware(not tea) you have to pay import tax, i've been bitten by that before, 2 kg of tea plus a teatray and the bastards taxed me on the lot

>>21429684
Im in the uk so wouldnt have that issue when buying from them but iv found the same one I like on aliexpress so will just be ordering from china, might have to pay some import tax but id prefer that to being ripped off by the English and usually my packages from China get through customs ect without me paying any tax

Any way to make green tea not taste like seaweed and fishoil?
or was that how it was suppose to taste like in the 1st place ?

>>21430475
*first place

>>21430475
that's what japanese green tea tends to taste like
make sure you're brewing it right though

>>21430539
Whats the best way to brew green tea?

>>21430560
use colder water
for a sencha I'd do 70 degrees celsius, with a longer first brew of 1.5 to 2 minutes (the leaves are rolled into needles and have to open up), shorter second brew of 30 seconds and a 2 minute third brew
the amount used is probably like 4 grams per 100ml? though I always eyeball it

for Chinese greens you can use 90 degrees C water, they are less demanding.

but it all depends on what you have, if you have shit stale green tea, it won't taste much better

>>21430560
Just my personal method;
1) Boil water
ii) Pour from kettle into cup that's to be used for measure
c) Pour from cup into a bowl for four minutes to cool to perfect brewing temperature
>???
PROFIT!

>>21430565
>>21430569
I forgot to mention the green tee i bought also happens to come with roasted rice seeds

>>21430583
so it is a Japanese green tea called genmaicha
Jap greens are usually kind of seaweedy, but experiment with the brewing to see if you'll like it more brewed a bit differently

>>21430587
at-least i do enjoy eating the popcorn rice

>>21430565
What does 70 degrees celsius feel like?

https://tea-side.com/teaware/handmade-ceramic-tea-pets-by-anton/
Tea pets made by a 10 year old. Kind of cute.

>>21430569
Can i just pour it into a mug or is the bowl necessary?

>>21430680
The upper limits of "I can put my finger in there and it doesn't really hurt"
Though for genmaicha no need to be so strict. Just do anything below boiling

>>21430683
The idea is that the bowl makes for a larger surface area than a mug, so it cools faster. Also the transferring between vessels will add an extra little bit of cooling.

>>21430702
>>21430569
dude just get a temp controlled kettle

>>21430475
Thats why jap greens are not my cup of tea

>>21430475
Don't buy tea from the grocery store

>>21430475
This is what jap greens taste like.
They are trash.
Just buy chink. Doesn't matter what, as long as it's not ripe puer, there is good chance it will be OK.

I only drink jap greens and I like them very much.

>>21431117
>>21430997
>>21430539
It must be that the 11's were altruistically obsessed with fish and seaweed,
therefore they must have cultivated their tea to taste like fish and seaweed.

>>21432644
*autistically obsessed

Did anyone watch this yet?
Plot is propably trash but plenty tea kino.

>>21432765
Chinese colonizer? based.
I'll probably order from yeeontea today.

first order from Yee On Tea!
two raws, two ripes. wanted to keep it small and varied because the shipping cost doubles over 375 grams for me

I've been wanting to try proper traditional hong kong storage for a while now. -25% discount was tempting enough to pull the trigger.

>>21432955
the menghai purple is really good anon, enjoy!

>>21432955
Whats this in euros

>>21433330
>>21433403
like 30 euro + 18 euro for shipping

>>21433330
yeah I wanted to try some of the poular favorites

>>21432646
Phoneposting soytoddler BTFOd by auto correct

Who here /YorkshireRed/

which of these should I get

https://teaswelike.com/product/introduction-to-puerh-tea-quarter-cake-set-june-2025/
https://quicheteas.com/products/factory-favorites-quarter-cake-sampler

>>21432646
It wasn't phoneposting,
i just sometimes instinctually left click and correct everytime i see a red line under the text.

>>21434341
>>21434895

>>21428315
Are those your own tasting motes or the vendor's. I can never detect any citrus in the son la. Tried again yesterday, still no citrus. Granted, I do drink very hard water and have no additional measures for storage.

>>21434720
hard to say. I think quiche has better prices overall, but these sets seem equivalent. though the TWL one includes the purple dayi, which is 200$+ for a whole cake, so not bad value

>>21434920
I also taste no citrus in son la.
Like at all.
FZH, I have to push really hard to get anything remotely similar to citrus, but here, not even that.
I also have fairly hard water, but that mutes everything. It doesn't single out one flavor.

>>21434895
Ahh ok you are just stupid. My apologies anon pls continue

>>21435046
better to die an idiot than a phoneposter

>>21434920
>I do drink very hard water
>>21435019
>I also have fairly hard water

Do something about it. Pic rel changed my life. You want to go below ~35mg calcium /liter for a good tea experience.

>>21435068
I tried some bottled water with the lowest mineral content I could find.
It's not worth the hassle.
Good tea can handle bot optimal water, and bad tea can't be saved.

Is this an accurate representation of a "proper" tea store?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCn8GzCThH4

>>21435376
This is funny but ASMR is fucking gay

>>21435376
>Proper tea store
>Herbal mixes from teabags
Nah

>>21435376
>"No no no what do you think you are doing! I must put this at the collection point and then you will be able to collect it"
Fucking Kek!

>>21426842
So you want less turbulent water? Why? Wouldn't you want to agitate the leaves for better extraction?

>>21436345
It's a load of bullshit so chinks can sell fake yixing to people who don't know any better. The pour being turbulent or laminar has nothing to do with the quality of the pot.
It's cheap and trivially easy to make a slip cast mold for a pot with laminar flow. Then sellers can easily pretend that the pot that comes out is high quality because the pour looks cool.

>>21436345
Actually the most important thing is to spill the water on the table

>>21435068
Let's talk about this. I've been meaning to upgrade my water system for years. Especially given the tea I drink and guests I have over for tea, I need to level up. What are the advantages of a home distiller vs. reverse osmosis? Further on RO, what's 3 stage vs. 5 stage?

Let's talk water autism. I'm looking to strike a balance of value vs. quality. Remineralization sounds like it would be a step too far, however I did it recently when I brewed beer with my friends. You just make a batch and toss in a teaspoon or whatever. If it's that simple, I might be able to be talked into it.

Who's drinking some good water? I want to hear about it.

If japanese green tea is shit, is there a recommended place to buy chink tea that isn't covered in pesticides and filled with heavy metals?

>>21436457
>Who's drinking some good water? I want to hear about it.
Life's good, no complaints. Here's an older recipe of his. Theres a few more on teasecrets if you click through to there.
empiricaltea.com/water-recipe-original/

>>21436494
Japanese tea isn't shit, this is just a Chinese tea general, practically.
You can get good pesticide free jap teas. I recommend yunomi.life.

>>21436457
>What are the advantages of a home distiller vs. reverse osmosis?
A (good) RO system is more expensive to buy and has running costs for the filters etc. But it depends on the electricity cost for destilling in the end.
Having a wet filter system at room temperature could also introduce new germs. RO is more convenient than running a destiller.

>Remineralization sounds like it would be a step too far
Of course you do remineralization: You cut your destillate with tap water again to get the mineral content right. Also saves cost.
My case: According to the website of the water plant in my area, my tap water is north of 200mg calcium/l.
So I cut the destillate with 10% tap water to end up at 20mg calcium/l.
If you start at a lower value you can cut it more and save more money.

>>21436494
japs use just as much pesticide as chinks do
anyway it depends on what tea you want

YunnanSourcing tests all their house brand teas for pesticides and also has a selection of certified organic teas
FarmerLeaf only works with farmers who pinky promise not to use pesticides, and they often show you photos and videos of how the tea is grown / made

Any idea when the next Farmerleaf release will come out?

>>21437265

Is there a different way to drink the teas? Like with japanese gyokuro there's different temperature for the water and different ratios. Is it like that with chinese teas?

>>21437994
Yeah. There are a few popular brewing styles for chinese teas. Gong fu and grandpa brewing get talked about the most, one is high effort, the other is easy and lazy

Most chinese teas are fine with boiling water though, only the greens get brewed with colder water. And even then, it's not as cold as for jap greens

>>21432644
Japan invented MSG.

Looking around for different pu-er teas and I was wondering which regions besides Yiwu are known for a sweet aroma.
One of my cakes is young Yiwu Guafengzhai and I absolutely love it. I almost don't want to drink anything else but I'm willing to expand my experience.
I don't mind the smoky and stronger experience of something aged but I don't absolutely need it.

>>21433447
>decide to buy
>they don't ship to my country
>send email inquiry
>estimated shipping 450 hkd (50€)

>>21439608
Jinggu teas are often considered similar to Yiwu
Sample around on Farmerleaf. Lots of terroirs can be fragrant, though few are as mild and sweet as yiwu

Am I just a pleb or why do I not get puerh? I don't hate it, I just don't understand all the autism let alone spending real money on it

>>21439653
yeah it was 40$ shipping above 400 grams for me, so just a small order

>>21439662
Maybe you just have yet to taste the right one

>>21439662
>Am I just a pleb
depends on what kind of tea you like

>>21439662
Let's us know your tea experience so we can judge you smugly.
Puer just has the most variety. It also usually lasts the longest so you can be sipping whole day on it and sometimes it changes with steeps so in the morning you are sipping on something different then in the afternoon even though its the same cup.

>>21439750
>Puer just has the most variety
oolong might have just as much variety if not more. but maybe it's not a fair comparison, as puerh is a much more narrowly defined type of tea

>>21426842
i have to piss now

>>21439662
From all tea its the best one to be autistic about. It keeps forever, they're often clearly labelled and defined (manufacturer, year..), there's a wide range available to the west. So it's conducive to discussion and autism.

>>21422033 (OP)
>an tea

Why are you retarded?

>>21439855
Look at the image

>>21437169
>You cut your destillate with tap water again
That does seem like a pragmatic way to approach it, but also seems like it would defeat some of the main benefits one might get with an RO system. I appreciate the response though.

Who else manages a home RO or water distillation system? This is your thread to talk about it.

>>21430475
Seaweed and fish, funkiness and wildness is the signature taste of Yabukita cultivar which is the most common one in Japan. In my experience with numerous yabukitas, it's also one with the most potential to be disgusting if it's aged, brewed too long or if it's otherwise just bad. There are other cultivars that give more clean, distilled aromas, saemidori is common recommendation for haters of basic japanese green (=yabukita). Though many teas that are mix of cultivars from a specific farm, which are often a mix of yabukita, but not all of them.

>>21438996
mono sodium glutamate?

>>21439993
Yeah saemidori is more fruity and sweet than the more robust yabukita. But all jap greens can be an acquired taste, if you dislike seaweedy and grassy it's best to stay away

>>21439996
Yes.

>>21439662
Puerh appeals to a very specific group of people if you catch my drift. I’m guessing you’re not one of them.

do you prefer Rien or Rien: Intense Incense?

>>21440622
Domestic abusers?

I feel I overdid my green tea order from the beginning of June.
I have two 100G satchets of Shincha, one of Gyokuro and a 40 gram baggy of super premium.
I do really enjoy it but I'm worrying as a single person I really sort of pushed myself to buy a lot of tea to just make the free shipping threshold.
I have recently turned to using the Shincha for cold brew, a few tablespoons in a 36 oz mug with a strainer overnight and honestly it's really refreshing but I haven't even wrecked one of the 100 gram bags yet.
I'm definitely going to have to step up my game here. But it's definitely making me appreciate my other teas at the moment. Treated myself to some sticky rice pu-ehr and it tastes even better than I remembered.

>>21441044
That's not too bad. I don't usually consider the shipping worth it unless I order 400g or more. It takes me a little while to work through, but at least it stores fairly well unopened. I usually only do one session per day at ~4-5g, so it's not quite a month per bag.

Farmerleaf just got their Ai Lao oolong. They will release it along with new cakes. I would expect in a week? Though I'm not sure.

>>21430565
70°C is still pretty high for japanese greens.
The range is 45°C for the very best Gyokuro up to 75°C for single steep lower quality tea.
It's usually 60°C for everyday teas.
You can increase the temperature for the second or third brew but starting high wastes all the complexity.of the tea.

>>21430680
It's easiest to mix boiling with cold water. Half and half gives you 60°C.

>>21430569
This way is more convenient:
1) Boiling water into teapot (temperature drops to 85°C)
2) From teapot into cups, discard any excess water (temperature drops to 70°C)
3) Put tea into teapot and pour water from cups in again (temperature drops to 65°C)

>>21441850
>45°C
Might as well cold brew at that point, who likes lukewarm tea

>>21441853
The leaves open much quicker at 45°C than RT. Try it. You only drink 20ml so it's not like you notice much of the temperature anyways.

>>21441797
First Yunnan sourcing and now William too? Keep AI out of tea.

latest finds

>>21442204
heterosexual women are not welcome in this thread. this is the puerh lesbian, sencha weeb and oolong chud general!

>>21442208
though i have been mistaken for a woman on occasion, i can assure you i am the exact opposite of a heterosexual woman

>>21442204
>>21442227
might as well post the rest of my collection

>>21442257
Horrifying. Hope you enjoy them :)

>>21442257
>tea bags
kill yourself faggot

>>21442287
how else am i supposed to teabag your mum?
I do also have one of those cages to put loose leaf tea in. i know teabags leach microplastics so unless the pieces of leaf are too small i'll often cut open the bag and empty it in there

>>21442257
hands down best collection I’ve ever seen in one of these shitty threads
idiots on an underwater Mongolian basket weaving board have no idea what they’re talking about, they don’t even buy the fancy tea that already comes in a bag.
not only are they stupid, they’re broke lmao

>>21442204
>>21442227
>>21442257
Could it be? Another person who drinks tea normally and isn't a Chinese bug LARPer posting about zhingzhang louzhong poo cakes?

>>21442257
A lot of slop, but the playadito absolves you

https://marshaln.com/2025/06/green-tea-pu/

New YunnanSourcing drama just dropped. Scott really going at it in the comments...

>>21442546
What a sperg. Does he just sit around all day googling himself?

>>21442546
>You’ve left me, and I imagine many others, confused by your reply. So in fact Yunnan Sourcing is not in fact actually Sourcing anything. Rather you’re just rewrapping cakes sourced and pressed by someone else. I gather that you now live in the US full time so has the entire operation been outsourced? It seems that this has been the case since at least 2011
>What % of your puer are you physically involved in producing? You really do owe your customers an explanation.
Get on his ass.

wow, cat fight, nice

>>21441850
>70°C is still pretty high for japanese greens.
>It's usually 60°C for everyday teas.
Nearly all of my sencha packets recommend 70 if they bother to mention a temperature. I don't think a lot of them would even brew correctly at 60c in my water.

>>21430680
bags of sand

>>21442584
I was under the impression that none of the big sellers press their own tea do they advertise that they do?

>>21442589
what do you expect from a thread full of people that are too delicate for coffee?

>>21442546
Imagine paying premium for every extra year just to find out the tea can't age.
Fuck anyone that recommends YS. No excuses, people should be called out for it.

>>21403049
Bag Status; Delivered
Looking forward to getting stuck in to these

>>21442257
Found the only straight woman itt

>>21442727
>woman
>itt
Wait, we're not all 70 y/o men? My life is a lie!

>>21442700
Nice. Looks like a solid selection. Lumber Slut is really cool and I'm enjoying the dancong chatou a lot. I'm a noob to dancong, this is only my second one, but it did impress me

>>21442796
Yeah, I'm not really familiar with that sort myself. It's always good to get out of one's comfort zone and try new types and expand one's horizons.

Gonna get a bunch of heicha from YS. Anything to be sure to get or to avoid? I'm looking at the liu bao and fu cha "samplers"; are they all right? Shou recs also welcome, I intend to get some of that action as well.

I made some sun tea today as I drink about 2 pints of it daily.

Is it possible to put some sleepy time tea bags into a pitcher and make sun tea with it, then leave it in the fridge to help me sleep? I think you're supposed to drink it warm to promote sleep, but I don't particularly like hot beverages in general.

>>21443168
Sun tea is really dangerous. Just stick the pitcher in the fridge like a normal person. Sleepy time tea is good marketing. It doesn't actually make you fall asleep. If it did cause sleep, what difference would drinking it hot or cold make? You're still consuming all the sleepy time tea chemicals regardless of temperature.

>>21443194
>Sun tea is really dangerous.
No its not.
>It doesn't actually make you fall asleep.
Its well known to help. What the fuck are you even saying?
>what difference would drinking it hot or cold make?
Its also known temperature and physical activity do effect how fast you fall asleep and how good the sleep is. If you take a hot shower just before bed your body doesnt' work as hard to maintain core temps, so when you get out and dry off in a normal temp room you get a little cooler and it helps you get to sleep.
>tea chemicals regardless of temperature
Have you ever brewed tea or coffee before?

>>21443022
I really liked the Mojun Fu Cha "1368" Fu Brick

>>21443168
the UV rays a little too harsh and the radiation from them will break down the valerian root and weaken its ability to bond with the h2o, effectively reducing the active ingredient’s bioavailability (i.e. your body’s ability to absorb it).
If you leave it out under the moon you should be fine though.

>>21441850
>1) Boiling water into teapot (temperature drops to 85°C)
You can't generalize it like that. It is a function of water mass and the mass of the teapot.
Example: When you pour 500ml boiling water in a room temperature teapot, which also weighs 500g, the temperature will equalize to about 65°C in 20-30 seconds.

>>21442727
I'm neither straight nor a woman, I'm just not a financially incompetent autist

>>21443869
No need to get angry anon, it's just banter

>>21442347
It the trash in the bags that's disgusting. Changing the packaging to a metal tea egg doesn't change anything

>>21443695
kek

>>21442695
>I’m super curious….the 2015 Wa Long from ZSL is priced at $232. The Yunnan Sourcing 2015 Wa Long is priced at $536.
>Are they the same tea? It certainly looks like it from the photos.
Get. On. His. Ass.

>>21443695
fuck you

>>21442631
I thought the YS branded stuff was sourced, blended, and/or pressed themselves.
>>21444341
I don't have an issue with markup. This is just business. Every industry does this, especially retail.
>>21442695
Yeah that's brutal.

>>21444468
I mean, could you imagine the shitstorm if FL would be caught doing this?

>>21443869
It was a compliment. Clam down little lady. No need to cop a puerh attitude

>buy chinese poo tea
>get poo'd on
wow

>>21444468
I'm a bit retarded, what does "sourced" mean?
Is buying it from a vendor/farmer/factory not "sourcing" it?

>>21444601
It would feel more like lying, I think. YS doesn't claim to grow their own. I guess I'm not 100% sure what the problem is outside of over processed raw puerh.
>>21444810
I understand it to mean buying tea from a farmer, co-op, village, factory in a curated manner. Maybe that includes buying it from another market/vendor. Is that too lenient?

>>21444810
I wouldn't consider essentially dropshipping "sourcing".

What we copping on the yunnansourcing sale /bros/?

I and probably most of their consu-er-customers didn't know that YS' yee woo's are ZSLong's OEM products. I won't even look deeper into that wrapper, I've dropped the guy long ago. He ships mostly to Russia and to USA from a relay nowadays, right? He was fighting EU tariffs last time I bought from them about 10 years ago. That's a shame, because it was good stop for some $15 cakes when that was a thing.

Not within my purview, I'm not In The Loop.
What's the one stop shop for newfags into tea now? Is there one or is it fully specialized?

>>21444810
I also don't understand. I thought sourcing meant finding the source of a product and buying and selling it from that source.

Isn't this just ginger marmalade or something? I still like it though.

>>21445676
Pretty much. I like the yuzu/yuja stuff. The slight bitterness makes it seem more like a tea.

For me it is she.

>>21445530
>What's the one stop shop for newfags into tea now?
seemingly still white2tea and YS. if you go on reddit, white2tea is the most popular with newbies by far. they at least seem more curated / hands-on than YS
in this thread, there is a tendency towards more specialized stores. Farmerleaf for young raw, teahome for taiwanese oolong, Yeeontea for dank HK stored puerh etc.

do we like him?

One of the things I've enjoyed about getting into tea is getting away from all the coffee autism. It feels simpler, in a good way. I see a lot of discussion about these particular Chinese methods and they just feel off-putting to me, like how people treat coffee, so I've decided to stay away from anything like that and only use normal "western" methods. I don't want to use a scale, I don't want to worry about shit like that. I wanted to get rid of my gooseneck kettle too but all the normal electric boiler kettles I looked at were too big and had a larger minimum capacity than what I need.

>>21446379
I do gong fu brewing without a scale or timer. I like the meditative ritual and "brewing by feel". it is different from coffee autism, which is much more about precision and gear. to gong fu brew, you really just need a 3$ porcelain gaiwan and a teacup, maybe a pitcher

and grandpa brewing is even easier than western style brewing, you just dump some leaves in a mug and apply hot water

>>21446322
nah fuck the small hat tribe and their shitty tea

>>21446172
what about mainland oolong

>>21446379
Not sure what size kettle you want, but if you search terms like "travel kettle" you can get pretty small ones.

>>21446425
there are lots of specialists for that, but they mostly do high end stuff, so they don't get talked about here that much
this thread tends to be value-oriented

>>21446322
no idea who that is

>>21446545
Funny tea Jew

>>21446322
Never did.

> 357 gram Fuding white tea cake
> Harvest 2013
> Pressed 2023
> Price 30 bucks
Ya know, despite it being definitely not what it says on the packaging, getting scammed tastes surprisingly nice.

Lots cinnamon and sugary sweetness going on

>>21446974
Idk if the age is that impossible. Pre 2010s aged white tea is definitely 90% fake though

>>21447000
>>21446974
Oh wait, pressed 2023? Yeah, that is sussy.

>>21446974
>> Harvest 2013
>> Pressed 2023
so when tea sellers say this does it mean it was aging loose in a big sack? i thought they pressed tea into bings/cakes/bricks ect for transport and aging

>>21447088
>so when tea sellers say this does it mean it was aging loose in a big sack?
that's the asumption, yes
or sometimes it just means "the seller is making shit up"

bump

>>21444884
What is your definition of "sourcing"

Did anyone sample the new vietsun releases?

>>21448375
Dude, it's still in transit. Patience. Be a little bit realistic about international shipping time.

Or if you are talking about the maocha, the deep forest raw is really good if you are into the fruity stuff.

Also to add to the fomo, apparantly the cao bo tall trees is a one time thing, because the farmer's neighbour cut down the trees

>>21426715
That ain't tea bub...

>>21427688
So that dogs would lap it up hence 'pre flavoring' the pooch meat

>>21448496
>Dude, it's still in transit. Patience
Oh, I didn't realize it has been so recent.
Too busy these days, so time flies strangely.
>the deep forest raw
Interesting. I have the regular lao Cai black from last year, but not the deep forest version.
I wonder what the difference is.
Ha giang deep forest > regular lao Cai, for sure tho.
The lao cai deep forest white also sounds nice, but the price is getting up there for a white.

>>21448516
They've changed their naming conventions this year to be more consistent. ''Deep forest'' is used for all wild non-sinensis teas of unknown varietal.

Do this

He just can't fucking help himself. In tea news I made some cold brew longjing. Its just okay.

>>21448938
I won't

>>21448938
Seems like a boring view.
I did take some tea outside while watering flowers though.

>boba tea place opens near me
>never had boba tea before so decide to go
>go in and order a boba milk tea
>they tell me they're still making the boba and don't have any ready yet (it's like 2 hours after they opened for the day)
>say i'll just take a milk tea
>it was okay but too sweet
>still have not had boba tea

>>21448938
I could lift her up and throw her over

>>21446322
The fact that he was a "comedian" is absolutely baffling to me. Incredible unfunny.
I guess you can get away with literally anything if you are (((white))) in China if you speak their language.

>>21449036
I really don't get the appeal of boba tea

>>21449517
Tea with milk and caramel is tasty but people aren't willing to pay for just tea. The solution was to add tapioca pearls so the drink lasts longer and isn't seen as simple tea.

>>21449531
I wonder if there will ever be "second wave tea" in the west, similar to the appearance of starbucks, so you can easily find a shop to get a somewhat decent cup of tea.

>>21449544
My concern is it might drive up the cost of the tea I like to drink at home.
I dont care much about what I drink when I'm out, it's just caffeine to slug back.
I guess if they managed to make an actually nice teahouse it could be different.

I'm getting hives all over my arms while drinking tea tonight. It can't be the tea, can it?

>>21449667
>buy tea from bug hive
>get hives

quick, tell me what tea to buy

>>21450029
ice

>>21449517
Well neither do I, but that's because I haven't been able to try it. I can't even go back to that shop at a normal time because they might not have it ready again. Very irritating.

>>21450029
Fa Zhan He and Xiao Fa

>>21450029
Try your luck at Taobao roulette

>>21450029
Fortnum and Mason Lapsang Souchong is quite pleasant.

>>21446322
Honestly I don't dislike him, bringing more, decent, tea options to people is (as long as it doesn't get out of control like the matcha fad) a good thing, skullcap or no.
Saying that, I do find his voice a little bit grating

>>21449036
>it was okay but too sweet
Did they make it with condensed milk? I had some tea like that in Hong Kong once and it was, well frankly, it was like the tea equivalant of a frappe. I have a sweet tooth, but I was expecting a Builder's Brew, was not prepared for that.

>>21450656
>Did they make it with condensed milk?
I think they make Boba with normal milk, they just add a shitton of sugar

>>21450885
It's strange. The default amount of sugar, 100%, is so sweet that it's almost unpleasant.
It depends on the shop but 25% is balanced with the tea and 50% is normal sweet.
You always have to specify.

>>21450656
>Did they make it with condensed milk?
I don't know. I think they have an unsweetened option so I may have to try that if I go back. In the past I probably would have liked how sweet it was, but since I've started drinking tea without any sweetener I'm not used to it anymore, which I suppose is a good thing.

tfw in middle of multi-day pu-erh bender
>everything feels shitty
>get through the motions in the morning, finally make time to drink tea
>suddenly enthusiastic, everything will work out
Not even joking here, this is my life now

I am considering getting the First Step Tea sampler from YS.
Is it worth a shit?

>>21452533
I haven't tried it, but it should be pretty good. good variety in there and some popular favorites like the black gold
people ITT like to bash YS for their pu-erh pricing and low curation, but they're still one of the better options for newbie sample sets like this

My kettle finally bit the dust. Eurofags/bongs, recommend me a decent kettle to buy.
I want it to reliably last at least 5-6 years and I'd like some somewhat reliable temperature controls since I occasionally drink greens, so I don't just wanna buy the cheapest 20 quid kettle from argos.

No microplastics would be a bonus.

>>21452645
Something like this works fine. Temp control and stay warm for your session. Only bad thing is the top not being really tight so slow pouring with the gooseneck is required otherwise I like it a lot, I rub a little inside after each session to remove the water and dry it. Got a similar one for 3 years now and using it every single day. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Electric-Gooseneck-Variable-Temperature-Stainless/dp/B0BD8CDWJP?crid=FDP9J6TQPGFS&sprefix=kettle+gooseneck%2Caps%2C79&sr=8-6

>>21452533
>Is it worth a shit?
Not it cannot be worth it when you pay $20+ for shipping on already overpriced tea.
We have had this conversation so many times already... just check archive.
Buy those 25g samples from dragonteahouse or something, at least they have free shipping.
>>21452548
>people ITT like to bash YS
People should bash them. Repacking cakes is just one of many scummy practices.
He sells the same taobao trash, like every dropshipper, absolutely no reason to pay him extra.

>>21452645
What on your kettle failed?
>>21452674
>Repacking cakes is just one of many scummy practices.
What makes it a scummy practice? Isn't taobao difficult to navigate and risky to order from, in terms of quality of tea? Curation and logistics have value.

>>21452687
>What makes it a scummy practice?
Really? It's literally the "I made this" meme. If you didn't make shit, give credit to the original author, at least.
Why would you pay 2x for repackaged ZSL tea instead of buying directly from them?
>Isn't taobao difficult to navigate and risky to order from, in terms of quality of tea?
No? Maybe if you are dumb, but if you use the most basic common sense, then it's safe enough. Anyway, you can always buy from tea-expert/fullchea if you really wanna be safe, and you won't get charged as much as YS.
YS is the biggest. Hence, they scam their customers the most.
>Curation and logistics have value.
Other do the same for less.

>>21452663
I dunno the reviews are saying it's chinkshit. If you got lucky I believe that it's working great for you, but for plenty of people it apparently isn't.
My mum will also be using it so I'd honestly rather pay extra for a western brand than gamble on chinkshit from amazon and then potentially have to deal with more headaches, returns, and back to square one choosing a new kettle if I get unlucky and after a month it starts turning itself on without a button press or whatever.

I don't really need a hold function btw, since most often I drink black and I don't think any kettle will hold water at 100*C, and I don't mind taking 10-15 seconds to reboil it if it cooled down a bit.

>>21452687
It literally started leaking, the actual body of the kettle failed somehow.
It's a bosch one that served us well, main downside was that it was plastic, and the temperature selection was only in increments of 10*C.

>>21452691
>It's literally the "I made this" meme
That's what I'm trying to grok. Does Scott explicitly say or even imply he grows or blends his YS branded teas?
>Why would you pay 2x for repackaged ZSL
People who aren't heavily invested in tea as a hobby wouldn't be aware of them. YS and others curate and market to a different audience. That's valuable at face value. Admittedly Scott may do that poorly, neglecting quality or overcharging, but conceptually I don't see rewrapping teas as scummy so long as the teas themselves aren't dishonestly represented.

>>21452693
If you want to pay 200-300+ for some "european made" designer shit kettle you are free to do it anon.

>>21452663
>>21452693
I have a Fellow Corvo if you want a full on fancy overpriced western brand kettle
No real issues, except the temp control is really sensitive to limescale buildup and can bug out if you don't descale / filter your water

>>21452721
>hurr you don't want my chinkshit from amazon with less than 4 stars and multiple reviews claiming it stopped working, started heating by itself, started heating forever due to temperature sensor dying, etc.?
>that must mean you want to overspend £300 on a "designer" kettle
I just want a normal kettle recommendation man. If nobody has anything to say and the answer is to just go look on amazon for something with good reviews then fair enough (the 3.9 star rated one will still not be the one to choose though), but why would you even read my post repeatedly asking for a reliable kettle and then accuse me of wanting a "designer" one

>>21452732
>I just want a normal kettle recommendation man.
Just get the cheapest kettle with temp control, if it breaks quickly then it's your fault for not being lucky enough. Replace it when it breaks or watch some pajeet videos on repairing broken kitchen appliances and fix it. "Recommended" kettle can and probably will break just as quickly.

>>21452645
>>21452645
I have been using the predecessor of this kettle for the past 10 years for coffee and tea. Temperature reading is accurate to 1°C and heating control hits the target temperature with +-2°C. Spout is good and doesn't drip and lets you pour slowly.

>>21452732
You can spend 3k on a silver kettle and it won't be chinkshit and have wonderful reviews go for it.

>>21452645
my bonavita has lasted over 5 years

Are there any good deals going on right now for us europoors? I'm looking to place my first order (interested in budget friendly raw and ripe puerrh, maybe even oolong) and haven't had a chance to gather experience with any of the vendors listed in the pastebin yet.

She can't keep getting away with it

>>21453256
Do you wanna burn your hand?
Cause that's how you burn your hand.
There is a reason teapots have a handle.

>>21453256
>not a drop of water landed on the table
???
Is she korean or something

>>21453254
You could wait for the new Farmerleaf release, which should happen soon. Possibly within a week. He often does sales with the releases, and his prices will be lower this year. Free shipping and I always pay barely any VAT as he lowers the value of the package, though if this works or not depends on the EU country in question.

I don't think there are any sales going on right now. If you want generally low prices on classic factory pu-erh, Quicheteas has good prices.

>>21453256
>didn't signal for me to drink it
gym-chan...please...I'm so thirsty

>>21453292
>quicheteas
excellent, this looks like the place I'll try my luck with. cheers.
I just hope that the customs office does not return it to the sender. that shit is infuriating.

>>21453382
I'd definitely get the 7562 and V93, those are solid cheap ripes
For raws, something with a bit of age could be nice

New:
>>21453450
>>21453450
>>21453450

>>21453440
>V93
is that the 2007 or the 2022 v93?

>>21453485
I was thinking 2022 for a cheapie, but the 2007 seems like a good price too. supposedly this recipe has more aging potential than most because of lower fermentation