Everyone online and irl is raving about beef being a superfood while classifying pork as inferior quality meat, how true is it?

The problem with Pork is that it's too lean
The only countries where you can get decent pork are Asia, Germany and Scandinavia

Beef is always better because the way cow stomachs work, pigs are monogastric so they don't filter as much of what they eat.

>>21427459
>is that it's too lean
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>>21427459
>The only countries where you can get decent pork are Asia, Germany and Scandinavia
????????????????????????????????

about 150 years ago a bunch of cow ranches had a conflict with ranchers of other varieties out west and won through violence, and they successfully spread the lie that beef was the best #1 meat ever

basically the reason everyone has a stupid opinion about beef is a 150 year old squabble between farmers

there's another weird legacy culture war around gold vs silver that still reverberates today but that is a subject for another thread on another board

>>21427459
>The problem with Pork is that it's too lean
Weird, all my life people have been saying it's inferior because it's too fatty

>>21427459
>pork
>too lean
What have you been smoking?

Im making porkchops tonight I was pleased with the cuts I received. Have a gander. Were having a caprese and vinegar peppers with them

>>21427497
>caprese and vinegar peppers
some roasted or baked oyster mushrooms with vinegar or balsamic on top and you're golden

>>21427501
That sounds great. Will have to give that a try. Not sure how I want to prep these yet

Most people that dislike pork are either Jewish or Muslim. That's like a little over 2 billion out of 8 billion.
That's a lot of people that hate pork.
Anyhow, I'm a God fearing Christian, and I dislike how I feel like I need to add breading to certain cuts of pork because I think it feels less flavorful when too much lard is lost. I feel the same way about beef so I always make chicken fried hamburgers with chicken fried bacon. Even pork chops can be improved by making them chicken fried pork chop style.
I prefer eating boiled chicken, though.

>>21427514
I can never go wrong with good ol' barbeque grill with salt/pepper/oregano

>>21427520
>barbeque grill
?

>>21427453 (OP)
I love pork.
I think when most people compare beef vs pork, they're probably thinking of a steak vs a pork chip. In which case, yeah I'd probably pick the steak too. But there's so many other cuts of pork with a lot of versatility, many of them I prefer over their beef equivalents.

>>21427528
It's a device used to heat up food.

>>21427528
You know, something like this. That you can put charcoal or wood in

WE FORGOT THE FUCKING BASIL HOW DO I REDEEM IT

>>21427453 (OP)
beef is generally cleaner and less disgusting

>>21427537
Have you considered adding basil to the food?

>>21427453 (OP)
You are what you eat.
I'd rather absorb the strong essence of the mighty bovine than the wallowing filth of unfiltered pig slop.

There is a really cheap cut of pork that is marbled. It fries to a soft, crispy chop that cuts easily with a butterknife. Easily the best cut. It mogs overpriced "chops" like ribeye mogs filet.
No, I won't tell you what cut. Low demand = low price. Sorry

>>21427537
No sir you must NOT redeem!

>>21427537
Throw it out

>>21427550
Yea let me conjure up some basil
>>21427566
I tried to redeem
>>21427587
All must be redeemed

>>21427453 (OP)
No

>>21427459
Somehow this fucking retard has only ever had pork loin and never pork shoulder.

>>21427501
He's "golden"?

>>21427609
>snapchat
>sandwich tomatoes
>vertical phone photo

KYS

>>21427687
I only eat pork belly and pork shoulder
>>21427491
>>21427495
That's just a stereotype that's lasted for 50 years
The fact is that in the West we no longer have the classic pig breeds which have flavorful fatty meat
Producers bred increasingly lean pigs and now that's all we have left
The only fat you can get these days is subcutaneous fat

>>21427691
How would you have done it lol i ate good tonight you had kid cuisine

>>21427487
Doesn’t change that steaks are amazing and the best pork cuts are just ok

>>21427691
Those aren't sandwhich tomatoes whatever that even means. They're beef steak tomatoes which are fine you pedantic faggot

>>21427459
>The problem with Pork is that it's too lean
Maybe in your shit hole country this is true but not in first world countries.
>>21427459
>The only countries where you can get decent pork are Asia, Germany and Scandinavia
Typical uneducated third world retard. You are clearly Scandinavia and have no idea what you are talking about.

>>21427711
>That's just a stereotype that's lasted for 50 years
>The fact is that in the West we no longer have the classic pig breeds which have flavorful fatty meat
>Producers bred increasingly lean pigs and now that's all we have left
>The only fat you can get these days is subcutaneous fat
False and you are not from the west based on your backwards propaganda and lack of education.

>>21427711
>I only eat pork belly and pork shoulder
Then you are not qualified to talk about pork.

>>21427768
>>21427763
I'm English
Anyway I said Germany and Scandinavia because that's what I've been told and they love their pork but in America this is clearly documented
These days the only good pigs left are heritage breeds in the USA

>>21427453 (OP)
Because of fear of undercooking, the average at home mom doesn't know how to cook pork without overcooking it to kill parasites. Overcooked porkchop is worse than an overcooked beefchop. This could be fixed with a digital thermometer easily but most will not bother or some reason, everyone should get at least one for their home by now, they're under $25 and will last...I had to pay at least $80 for a fuckin Thermapen 20years ago. Hell, there's wireless ones or even bluetooth ones that you can use an app with on your phone if you want to pay more.

>>21427497
>not dry brining the evening before
ngmi

>>21427453 (OP)
Salmon = beef = buffalo = lamb ≥ pork > venison = tuna = duck ≥ chicken > goat = white fish > shellfish > bugs = turkey
This is the objective truth

>>21427888
Truly the opinion of a retarded chinese woman.

>>21427453 (OP)
It's more expensive that's why people overrate beef. It's a status thing while pork is considered for poorfags

>>21427835
>Because of fear of undercooking, the average at home mom doesn't know how to cook pork without overcooking it to kill parasites
not only that, but those parasites have essentially been eradicated in the first world. so actually you don't even need to cook it enough to kill parasites, because there aren't any parasites anymore. lean cuts of pork can and should be cooked to medium. but this has only taken place in the last 15-20 years or even less, so a lot of people's experience and conceptions of pork are still rooted in a time when it needed to be treated more carefully than beef and was generally cooked to well done.

pork is disgusting, but ham and bacon are delicious.
I can only come to the conclusion that pork is the worst cut of the animal.

>>21427453 (OP)
Pork, Beef, no animal can escape me cramhola

>>21427888
Trips of truth except for shellfish
Shellfish mog, especially if you harvest wild ones yourself and eat them raw

>>21427565
There’s like 5 people on this board (the rest are bots)

>>21428117
can confirm, I'm a bot

>>21428117
bot here, i hate black people

>>21427888
>turkey at the bottom and equal to bugs
Faeries need to be genocided ASAP. This post is truely, truely an incident

>>21427453 (OP)
Yeah.
>can't eat pork rare
>pigs are fat and disgusting

>>21428261
>>can't eat pork rare
3rd world problems lol

>>21427453 (OP)
Maybe ractopamine influences pigs more than it does cows. Maybe it's literally because of what >>21427487 said. I was surprised people even cared in america when a chinese company bought the largest pork producer, iirc accounting for 25% of the market back then, because it's eaten less than chicken.

>>21427459
>The problem with Pork is that it's too lean
not really
>The only countries where you can get decent pork are Asia, Germany and Scandinavia
Asian is not a country but yes asians like fatty pork. Also that's not true. All of Eastern Europe/Central eats fatty pork.

It's because you buy the wrong cut. Don't buy cutlets. Buy pork from the neck and belly part of the animal.

>>21428282
Oh lol smithfields stopped using ractopamine a few years after the chinese acquired them. Probably because it's illegal in most of the world and even china itself.

>>21427771
>I'm English
Well you are some sheltered numpty.
>Anyway I said Germany and Scandinavia because that's what I've been told
This just about sums you up.

You shouldn't really post if you haven't a clue what you are talking about.

>>21427497
Nice cuts fren. Enjoy.

>>21427913
>parasites have essentially been eradicated in the first world. so actually you don't even need to cook it enough to kill parasites, because there aren't any parasites anymore.
Well as long as never allow any third-world people into our first-world countries, we should remain parasite-free forever.

>>21427453 (OP)
the thing is that pork many times tastes like literal shit, not metaphorically
>inb4 ur not eating gourmet pork
obviously, what's in the supermarket, yeah, many times tastes like literal shit, I looked up why would that be, apparently can be related to the pigs living completely surrounded by shit

>>21428305
>literal
I saw you spouting this rubbish in another thread, I disregarded it then, as I am now.
You probably don't eat it for religious reasons, so you make up these silly stories.

>>21427711
>>21427459
I don't know anything about pork but I feel like you're talking out your ASS

>>21427719
>the best pork cuts are just ok
If you can't cook, everything is okayish at best.

>>21427459
>The problem with Pork is that it's too lean
What are fatback, belly and neck? The only really lean parts are filet and loin. Maybe also ham or shoulder.

>>21427888
>cirno poster has wrong bake opinions
Well at least you're self aware.

>>21427719
I am quite confident that nothing you've ever cooked has tasted good

Noob question: how to cook bone-in pork chops in a pan on the stove?
I've ruined a t-bone thinking I could cook it properly by just searing and flipping like a sirloin. Bone-in chicken I finish in the oven, and stay juicy. If I do this with pork chops, how to keep them from drying out?

>>21428968
It would be covered in fat from searing so it shouldn't become dry in the oven. Make sure it's room temperature or close to it before cooking and it should finish nicely in the oven. Otherwise you'd have to cook it longer to heat the cold center, which would overcook the outside.
If you're just worried about overcooking it in general then check with a thermometer every 7 minutes or so.

>>21428968
>If I do this with pork chops, how to keep them from drying out?
Cook fresh, not from frozen, is one trick. Have the right thickness for the recipe. For pork, the low-n-slow is a good rule of thumb for not seizing up the proteins and having it dry out, but if you froze it and thawed it improperly also affects the tenderness and juiciness.

For skillet cooking, for thinner bone-in chops, I'd for sure flour them, seasoned flour or cornmeal, and cook in small amount of oil, maybe in a cast iron or nonstick. flip when browned, remove from pan, blot out oils, sautee peppers and onions in remaining fat. Serve hot as garnish, or serve with lemon or relish or chow chow.

For thicker bone-in, brown both sides, reduce heat, put on lid. Or add sour cream or squeezed sourkraut to pan, then lid on, and simmer until tender. Pork does great with sweet and sour flavors both, so lemon juice, vinegars and pickled things are very complimentary and also tenderize.

For very thick, I'd go with an apple calvados deglaze step, also lid on and simmer on low until tender.

>>21428296
The """good""" thing is that the third worlders want nothing to do with pork

>>21428339
no you stupid nigger, I eat it often, and often as well it tastes like shit, I've seen how a man living in the country side had one (1) pig living, probably for self consumption, it was literally surrounded by walls to the point it couldn't move in any direction, now imagine how the megafarms raise it, granted I've eaten pork that tasted good as well, but nowadays if I can I avoid taking the chance, I'll just not eat it. hell I've even eaten chicken that tasted like that, but only once with the chicken luckily, anyways, the cheapo mass produced meat industry can be fucking vile

>>21428305
>tastes like literal shit, not metaphorically
If you weren't so insistent, I wouldn't bother asking, but how do you know what shit tastes like?

>>21429044
Where the fuck are you getting your meat from? You're clearly the only one spamming that opinion on this board, and while boar taint is a documented phenomenon it's been solved for centuries through castration. Either you're hunting wild boar on the regular, you buy your meat from some retarded hillbilly, or you're a false-flagging jewish/muslim/vegan

>>21429055
well I've never eaten shit, but you see how it smells, it tastes how it smells

>>21429096
>Either you're hunting wild boar on the regular
top kek, thanks for the laugh, I literally buy from the supermarket, no, I'm not getting paid for this, no I'm not pushing an agenda, no I'm not shilling, I'm telling you about what the fuck I've been living you dense fucktard

>>21429102
Do you live in the third world then? What store(s) do you get your meat from?

>>21429104
I live in south europe

>>21429109
>t. shqiptar

>>21429117
ok, yeah, watever you say, then ok, I guess, I've never eaten pork meat that tasted like shit ever, I'm pushing an agenda, beef meat incorporated is sponsoring my shilling together with arab emirates. happy now?

>>21429109
Yeah, thirdie countries aren't known for their quality meat. Better luck next time friendo

>>21429125
there will be next time, unfortunately

>>21429123
>I'm pushing an agenda
Sure seems like it.
>>76306216

>>21429129
welp
>>>/fit/76306216

>>21429109
Albania and Kosovo are not southern Europe.

>>21429044
>no you stupid nigger, I eat it often,
Do you indeed?
>the thing is that pork many times tastes like literal shit, not metaphorically
THEN WHY DO YOU STILL EAT IT?

You are full of bullshit kid.
I saw your posts on another thread, whining and complaining because your religion won't allow you to eat Pork.

Go away.

>>21429146
>>21429132
>>21429129
yes I (Me) I'm shilling, I have an agenda, it's me, totally not (((You)))

>>21429154
>yeah i totally had some of those grapes, but they were sour so you shouldn't have any either

>>21429159
you can eat all the pig you want, it's ok, I don't give a fuck you autistic reatard lmfao

>>21429163
you're pathetic

>>21429166
ok, enjoy your shit tasting pork, I just won't eat it, it's all

>>21429163
>people eat pork and I'm not allowed to.
>scream and have a meltdown
>cry like a baby
>why can't people be as stupid as me?
>cry even harder.

>>21427459

>>21429168
>I just won't eat it, it's all
Didn't you say you ate it a lot? >>21429044

You are full of lies.

>>21429169
>>21429176
eat shit, faggot

raw pork smells like shit

enjoy
your
shit
tasting
pork

faggot

>>21429180
So do your people.

test

>>21429178
>>21429180
>>21429181
Complete meltdown.

Pork and Shellfish
Yummy yummy

>>21427459
Fpbp. You need to put in some work and process leaner cuts of pork

I like gammon.

>>21428360
>Pork most popular meat in Europe
Not with our changing demographics, inshallah.

>>21427487
Dude, that's nuts

>>21427453 (OP)
>Is beef really so superior over pork?
Yes.

>>21427453 (OP)
Depends on what you measure:
>Cost
Pork wins. It's cheaper across the board per quality level.
>Ribs
While both are fantastic, beef has a better natural flavor here, especially if you get the dino cut.
>Loin (fillets)
Beef tends to win out here. Pork loin is good, but it just doesn't match beef tenderness.
>Belly
Pork wins here - everyone loves bacon
>Hams/Rump
Pork wins here
>Chest
Beef wins here for brisket
>Marrow
Beef wins here
>Lunch meat
Ham wins here, roast beef is always meh in comparison to ham slice quality.

Also, anyone using "superfood" is a shill/scam artist.

>>21429575
>m wins here, roast beef is always meh in comparison to ham slice quality.
I love beef and I wish this wasn't true.

>>21429575
>roast beef is always meh in comparison to ham slice quality
Sure it is if you use inferior beef for that.
(My general position is it's a great world where I can have both beef and pork. Which one I want most depends what I feel like on the day.)

>>21429575
>he doesn't put sliced ham AND roast beef on his sandwich, thereby getting the juiciness of ham and the flavor of roast beef at the same time
Grim

Also milk and eggs are kinda superfoods since their nutrient profile is enough for their respective animals to thrive off of for months. Neither is perfect (except for literal breast milk) but they have a much stronger claim to the name than whatever FOTM leaf that Whole Foods just got a bulk deal on

>>21430051
Bacon is a superfood.

>>21430051
Why is that grim????

>>21432378
Because you could be missing out on an even better experience! In some ways, just barely missing the mark is worse than being completely wrong

>>21427516
literally the most schitzo post on 4chan

>>21427725
not that guy but beefsteaks are flavorless sandwich tomatoes
roma/plum are where you go if you respect yourself
but there's no basil so whatever. i enjoy slop

>>21427474
Not really a problem if they’re well fed with grains
>>21427453 (OP)
I honestly prefer the taste of pork, especially shoulder. I still like beef don’t get me wrong.

>>21427888
>t. retard

>>21427453 (OP)
I'd say it's factors like
A) Beef has a bolder flavor to it. Pork is delicious, but it's usually more about the fat, which is a bit more generic. I mean, I love the taste of the meat by itself too, but it's not as prominent as how you want the meat when you want beef.
B) Pork is arguably easier for a lot of people to fuck up. Any chop that isn't a shoulder cut can easily dry out if you're not careful, pulled pork can be deceptively hard for newbies, and even a simple boston butt roast requires you to cut it thinly enough to really work. Whereas for Beef, it's generally more straightforward.
C) Pork has more of a reputation of being a cheap meat. Even when you get away from Beef just being more expensive, there's things like a deeply instilled fear of undercooked pork having parasites (which compounds the overcooking issue)

As for the superior meat, the answer will always be chicken.

americans arent allowed to eat or buy pork at the butchers because of mosaic law...thats why rogaine and juden peterson arep ushing for that beef shit

>>21427888
You're a strange man

>>21427459
>The problem with Pork is that it's too lean
I too lean after eating pork

>>21432385
This is good life advice for a really retarded topic

>>21427459
>Scandinavia
I dunno. I'm in Norway right now visiting my wife's parents and their idea of good pork is pretty fucking nasty. American mid-south at least has incredible pork ribs and knows how to roast/grill/bbq a pig.
But at the end of the day beef is objectively superior to pork. So is horse and bison. Pork just isn't that good unless it is heavily cured or smoked and that is true of anything, even the worst meat on planet earth - yard bird.

>>21427453 (OP)
Beef isn't. People say "muh micronutrients" but this is marginal.

Pork chops are better than the average Sirloin, ribeye is better, but porkchops are like 3$/lb so....

Personally love pork. Pork loin, shoulder, chops, Ham. All delicious and cheap.

>>21427609
Nice recovery king. You could sprinkle some dried basil leaves on there as well.

>>21427453 (OP)
literal beef industry propaganda lol
beef does taste pretty good but its one of the most wasteful foods possible. also something like 70% of all beef eaten in the us is eaten by men over the age of 65. the beef industry knows it needs to get more people to buy that shit or it will die when the boomers do

>>21427453 (OP)
Thread sounds like a semitic psyop to drive kosher/halal sales where their middlemen are cut into your purchases.

Pork is based; the white man's food.

>>21427453 (OP)
If pork is so superior, why can I eat beef raw/undercooked but pork must always be cooked all the way through?

>>21434343
>why can I eat beef raw/undercooked but pork must always be cooked all the way through?
because you live in a 3rd world shithole. pork has been free of harmful parasites in the west for years, you can and should cook it medium.

>>21434343
Because you don't live in a first world country. Rare pork steaks have been commonplace for decades at this point

>>21434343
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mett

>>21434359
cute! :)

>>21432478
>not that guy but beefsteaks are flavorless
no they're not, quit being so hyperbolic. roma tomatoes are that last type that i would want to use for that application. i prefer to use those tomatoes for sauce or dicing

I don't eat pork because I heard human what tastes like it and that's all I think about when I eat it, specifically pork chops or like what's in the OP pic. Bacon and pulled pork and sliced ham are fine stupidly enough, probably because it's seasoned so much.

Beef has always been considered superior to pork. Ruminant animals in general are way tastier than monogastric ones. Their digestion purifies their uptake much better. Food spends days fermenting in their stomachs, breaking down chemicals that affect flavor, resulting in purer fat and meat. Of course most cows, even in industrial farms, subsist primarily on grass which is much cleaner than industrial pig feed. Industrial cows do go on feed for the last bit of their lives to fatten up, but, again, their digestive tract keeps their fat pure. Whereas industrial pigs are fed feed from birth, and their feed is lower quality than that of cattle, since they can eat pretty much anything. Cows' fat also has better fatty acid profiles with higher omega 6 content so it's more nutritious.
Pork is delicious, too, but it's a grade below beef.

>>21427453 (OP)
yes

>>21427459
God a well-marbled pork rib chop would be amazing. A shoulder steak is still pretty good, though.

>>21427514

$9 a pound chops? Jesus. I paid $3 at cost and the butcher was under $5.

>>21434343
You can as long as the pig wasn't fed literal garbage.

>>21435955

> at cost

Meant at Costco. Also today I made these meme pork belly burnt ends that the internet loves so much on my big meme egg. They're good but way too fucking sweet. First time I've ever cooked with pork belly like this. Not sure if I'll do it again.

>>21435962
Mine were from a very high end grocery store in NYac with an actual trained butcher not a high school drop out. Regardless your meal looks good and yes I willingly overpaid.

>>21435962
>meme
>burnt ends
if you were following an internet meme recipe they probably weren't burnt ends...

>>21434493
Lolno, factory farm cows don't eat grass. They eat industrial feed all their lives, which is why a lot of them develop acidosis.

>>21427453 (OP)
100% true

>>21427888
>Salmon = beef = buffalo = lamb ≥ pork > venison = tuna = duck ≥ chicken > goat = white fish > shellfish > bugs = turkey

goat should be at the same level as lamb

>>21436217

Based turkey disrespecter