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Previous thread:>>21415669

I skipped coffee today

>>21429033 (OP)
PISS
OUT
MY
ASS

Kofe time

>>21429116
Just post POMA

>>21429033 (OP)
What are some sweet tasting coffee beans? What should I be looking for? Fruit flavors?

I never got an explanation as to why 49mm is superior to 58mm

>>21429204
Its not. Its just inherently different. Buy the fucking pavoni if you want it.

>>21429223
>Its just inherently different
So how is it inherently different, it's just a different diameter (and therefor a different depth for the same amount of coffee)

>>21429226
Have you considered how a drastically smaller basket with fewer exits would affect flow, regardless of dose or puck height?

>>21429116
easily avoided if you just hold it in for at least an hour after drinking coffee

>>21429239
>drastically smaller
it's a less than 30% difference
Resistance and flow through the puck is driven almost entirely by pore size (grind coarseness/fineness) and length (puck height). This is called Darcy's Law btw

>>21429268
Try a basket with more open area some time. Then try something like an espressoparts EPMZ_107A.

>>21429157
i did you blind cunt.

>>21429268
>it's a less than 30% difference
go troll somewhere else kid.

>>21429285
No you didn't

>>21429284
>Then try something like an espressoparts EPMZ_107A.
Limited hole coverage leads to completely different flow dynamics.

>>21429315
Darcy's law tells us this doesn't matter.

>>21429326
>Darcy's law tells us this doesn't matter.
Darcy's Law says flow depends on cross-sectional area. If only part of the puck is letting water through (like in the EPMZ_107A), that is reducing the effective area and totally changes the flow. You can’t claim it doesn’t matter while ignoring the variables in the actual equation.

ok that's enough unproductive time arguing with retards for today

>>21429332
>reducing the effective area and totally changes the flow
So what does going down from 58mm to 49mm do?

>>21429340
If you think a 49mm basket with full dispersion is the same as clogging a 58mm basket from the outside in, you are genuine retard.

>>21429355
>49mm basket with full dispersion

>>21429363
That isn't a basket with full dispersion. I know you're a retard trying to argue and waste my time via technicalities, but that isn't even technically full dispersion.

>>21429375
Thats an ims competition basket for 49mm La Pavonis. Exactly what we're talking about.
https://espressocare.com/products/ims-b582th22-competition-basket-la-pavoni-pre-millennium

>>21429389
No one is talking about a La Pavoni basket except you.

>>21429406
>>21428940
>should I buy a la pavoni to go with my gcp

>>21429415
Notice how no one has talked about a La Povani basket except you and my question was about 49 vs 58mm baskets.

>>21429420
Yeah, and I told you the flow was different due to the reduced effective area. You're now arguing that 49mm IMS baskets aren't 49mm baskets, and also the flow is different due to the reduced effective area from them not being full dispersion. What theoretical 49mm basket are you referencing? Cremia baskets?

>>21429033 (OP)
One of my daily tasks at work is putting on coffee in this shitty old maker. I don't drink coffee though so have no clue how good it is. I did find it hadn't been cleaned in years so I did that and people said it was better. But are there any simple tips for making it good in general?

>>21429464
Freshly ground beans

>>21429438
>You're now arguing that 49mm IMS baskets aren't 49mm baskets
You're arguing about a specific subset of 49mm baskets. You are almost an exceptionally talented troll but your arguing via misusing Darcy's Law knocks you down multiple pegs

>>21429499
Here's 4 different 49mm baskets. Pavoni, Streitman, Olympia, Elektra. Pick one.

>>21429513

>>21428505
hey right on
got any more deets about em?
>>21429036
are you well?
>>21429142
doesnt the wristband pinch your hairs
>>21429177
since theres almost no actual sugars in coffee, and flavor is subjective, sweetness can come from different sources. on darker roasts, you might see tasting notes like caramel or cacao, while on lighter roasts, youre more likely to see fruity tasting notes. youll just have to try different coffees to find out which you prefer (:
>>21429464
a lot of coffee makers work better if you put in water thats already hot
idk if thats necessarily one of them

The best coffee I've ever been able to make was with pre-ground dark roast beans from the grocery store. Every time I grind beans I wonder if I'm just wasting my time and should go back to pre-ground instead.

i hope i did it right

>>21429781
do you want help or are you just whinging

>>21429874
Good mug

Making cold brew.

>>21430061
Just made some hot brew.

>>21430128
That sounds hot.

>>21430130

Coffee is not a hobby.

>>21430185
Pretty tasty beverage tho.

>>21430185
Define hobby

I finally figured it out. I have to pour slower with a normal kettle in order to increase extraction

Coffee is just a hobby.

>>21430548
thinking of having a hobbee soon.

>>21430568
soon is now

>>21430667
Having one too. The shot ran a little short, but should be good enough. I'll correct tomorrow.

didnt bother with a scale today, somehow kaffe tastes better the less autistic you get

>>21430185
You're clearly not a loser.

Any good hand grinders for around £100?

>>21430734
no
but there are some that are "good enough"

>>21430734
Depends on whether "good" means "will make coffee that tastes good" or "will make gay hipster coffee"

>>21430734
K6

>>21430853
this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY5Fwj-tOAw
ITS UP

>>21430952
Based HoffGOD slowly getting rid of all the ritualistic bullshit out of the coffee zeitgeist

>>21430963
>Papers used to taste like shit
>Now they don't
I'm not sure how rinsing out the shit taste was ritualistic?

>>21430965
That shit 'papery' taste was dust. Store your papers in a ziplock bag and you'll never have to rinse your papers again.

>>21430978
Dust doesn't taste chemical newfriend. No one is taking their filters out of the bag they came in and leaving them scattered around. You open the bag, you fold it closed.

Any coffee vending machine enthusiasts around?

Why did the coffee from these machines look and taste more like drip brewed coffee if they used instant coffee powder?

>>21430985
>Dust doesn't taste chemical
In this chemical world, it does.

Real talk though, buy unbleached filters.

>>21430999
>if they used instant coffee powder?
some do some dont
but instant coffee is just over extracted cheap dark roast coffee anyway.
so when rehydrated its going to taste like over extracted cheap dark roast coffee but without being burnt or exposed to the human error that comes with drip coffee.

>>21431005
> buy unbleached filters

I had two different coffees from different roasters, both of them rested 2 weeks and then vacuum sealed and frozen.

My power went out and both coffee's thawed to temperature, but remained completely sealed, no moisture. I thought nothing of it and threw them back in the freezer for another freeze.

One of the two coffees became incredibly easy to grind and tasted very flat and stale. The other is still tough to grind and tastes the same as when it was fresh. What gives?

>>21431057
>two different coffees from different roasters
>they're different?

>>21431063
I'm not sure what to make of it. They should freeze the same. They're very similar other than processing.
The one that stayed fresh went through a double fermentation, the one that went bad was washed.
My guess is that maybe the washed coffee had a micro leak in the vacuum seal, but I won't be able to verify that until I get to another frozen bag after I go through my current thawed stash.

I made coffee jelly with agar. It was a fun and tasty way to enjoy my morning cup.

are these roasted too light?

>>21431086
To see them in honey and salt and roast them a little longer. Eat them by the handful. Best coffee.

>>21431057
>both of them rested 2 weeks
>tasted very flat and stale
Whoa I wonder why

Nothing like pouring my coffee through a piece of paper. Gosh I just love paper. Mmm... delicious paper.

Damn

>>21431104
Resting 2 weeks gets me a very good cup, I freeze at apex flavor.

>>21430734
The K6 is good; get the angled handle if you can.

>>21431255
I'm not sure about 2 weeks. I work at coffee roastery and we rest it for 48 hours max. There's barely any aroma to it if you leave it for longer and it starts smell soggy after a while. I wouldn't even dare to taste it at that point. I guess it's fine if you rest it inside the pack but I don't see the point. Most of the nitrogen goes away in first 8 hours. We often drink same day roasts at canteen and it's much better coffee than I get at coffee shops in my area at least.

>>21431339
Not sure what you're working with, but I drink mostly light roasts.

>>21431339
You must be roasting very low altitude beans, very dark on a large gas drum.

>>21431362
>You must be roasting very low altitude beans, very dark on a large gas drum.
Well that would be the extremely cheap way to do it, so I'm not surprised.

gooooooooooooood evening /ctg/!
my new order has arrived, two from bolivia, two from peru and one from kenya
i've ordered from coffee collective many times so im used to kieni, really nice floral/acidic coffee, really clean
the rest are all new to me, i heard many great things about takesi geisha so im excited to try it
all washed because i dont feel like drinking fermented coffees recently
how's your brew going?

nice tasting coffee. I don’t know how to put it but I think I enjoy the Herbert tasting note

What's the go-to poorfag option for hand grinder? Timemore C2S or Kingrinder K2?
I want to experiment with a moka pot and a V60

>>21431506
Kingrinder C1

>>21430952
Last thread I asked if it's a meme to rinse papers

Guess I was right

>>21431529
You should probably be rinsing those 200 for $1 papers.

>>21431529
>Last thread I asked if it's a meme to rinse papers
im still gonna rinse em
i just like doing it.

>>21431535
True. Though for now I need to use up my V60 filter papers

>>21431539
I am too since it makes it easier if it's already stuck to the V60

>>21431547
well i use the clever dripper so i just put the filter in, then fill with boiling water and just let it sit while i grind then dump it out when im ready to brew.
so it rinses the paper, sticks it to the side/positions it correctly and preheats the brewer.

im so eepy... time for bed.

>>21431057
refreezing is generally not recommended
>>21431086
only you can decide that (:
but that does look dangerously light
>>21431469
good morning fren
sounds lovely, enjoy
brews going well (:
>>21431506
kingrinder p series is solid (well, its plastic, but the burrs are better aligned thann timemmores i believe)

>>21429204
A smaller basket means deeper puck. The water will flow more even over a larger range of viable grind sizes. The main argument is statistics.
Imagine you had a single layer of ground coffee particles (or a 1mm thick puck or whatever). Now add any tiny inconsistency like water droplets hitting differently or different densities or just random chance for the path the water takes first around the grounds. One of these inconsistencies already stretches over the entire thickness of the puck.
A thicker puck has a hundred of these layers and for each layer the inconsistencies are randomly rolled again. Together the inconsistencies cancel out and flow issues become less likely.

On the other hand one has to balance the fact that a thicker puck has a bigger gradient in the extraction between top and bottom.
Also, it provides more resistance so the grind has to be coarser. Once the grind is coarse enough to prevent channeling there isn't much benefit to grinding much coarser.

49mm doesn't run into these latter issues yet.
58mm makes it unnecessarily hard to get good shots.

>>21431642
>but that does look dangerously light
anon those are peanuts.

>>21431697
They're called peaberries.

>>21431697
oh lol

>hoff posted 7 hours ago
>Morgan Eckroth posted 5 hours ago
do you think she waits for him to upload a video so she can try and take away some of his views?

>>21430734
used 1zpresso jx pro

>>21430853
>>21431304
>>21431843
I find it really annoying how you HAVE TO give your money to chinese simply because european companies decided to sell their stuff as luxury goods. It doesn't have to be this way.

>>21431886
its really more about the cost of production and labor
just get a used one if it bothers you so much

I kinda want to by a Sofi 72 from Aramse but I wish the brew time wasn't 6 to 15 min, who has time to wait for that long seriously ?? Any idea for a similar product but quicker ?
I like how it's fully stainless steel, portable and doesn't need a fancy kettle or filter papers. Maybe I should just keep my french press desu

>>21431886
Unironically stop being poor lmao

>>21431886
Machined and assembled in Edinburgh. Use italmill burrs like kinu.
https://madebyknock.com/collections/grinders

>>21431925
You can get a fully stainless steel french press, pic rel is from Frieling

aeropress

moka pot

What if we put a layer of foam on top of your coffee that tastes like shit, but it signals that you used an expensive method for making the coffee?

>>21432097
just skim it off if you don't like it

I was looking at this earlier, an E&B Lab steel pourover dripper. It doesn't use any paper filters. Anyone used a dripper like this? How did it work? I don't mind some sediment in my cup if it causes that (I like french press coffee).

>>21431945
Thanks. Pretty much ticks all the boxes for me.

>>21432129
Semi lied btw. Looks like only the feld47 has the "kinu" burr, with the option for a "vmaccino(also made by italmill, dont know if its also the kinu PO) pourover burr". The cheaper ones only have a 38mm vmaccino. Can't tell you how they perform but Knock has been around for years.
>Using a wider, more open geometry these stainless steel burrs allow up to 20% faster throughflow of beans when grinding and are ideal for Aeropress and Pour Over brews with a lighter body than our classic Italmill burrs.
>Whilst very capable of good Turkish and Espresso grinds, these burrs dial more quickly into the filter range which is their forte, and so leave a little less dial-in scope, especially at espresso.

>>21432270
Aergrind should do. I planning on brewing moka pot and aeropress.

>>21431945
>>21432129
I thought this dude was a complete cunt to his customers (delays, not responding to emails, etc)
this was like a decade ago so maybe I'm misremembering but I thought it was bad enough people recommended buying from a stockist instead of directly

>>21432389
I'd also heard that years ago but looks like an old partner bought him out?
>Across the Summer & Autumn of 2023, after several years of difficult trading conditions post Brexit and Pandemic, the KNOCK brand & its range of grinders and coffee equipment came to the ownership of Conyryn Ltd, a company wholly owned by Peter Kilpatrick, one of the founding partners of the original Knock Products Ltd.
>Conyryn is continuing production of Knock grinders in Edinburgh, with parts made by the same machinists and suppliers who helped make the Aergrind, Feldgrind and Feld47 the great everyday coffee tools they are renown to be.

is the difference between a dedica and bambino that noticeable or should i just buy whatever is cheapest?

>>21432108
I have a Chemex, and on occasion I will use my Kone metal filter. Likely you will enjoy a mesh/metal pour over filter if you are used to french press. ("Oily", "Thick""Mellow")
I also use reusable cotton filters, which I find as a somewhat midpoint between the unbleached papers and the Kone. Truth be told, you will really only want to use a mesh with pour over on larger batch sizes, as you will want a courser grind to avoid excessive sediment.
My favorite brew method is by far my siphon pot - old stovetop silex. Followed by "spooned and unpressed" french press - I will spoon off the fines and filter the rest through the plunger.

I enjoy having many different choices for how I brew, though the only one who can make the decision of what tastes best is you

Is there such thing as a beginner bean? Something that's cheap but decent quality as I practice making espresso?

>>21432591
Mister, then once you have practice you can move on to Sean.

>>21432591
>cheap
define
>decent quality
what do you normally drink?

generally i would suggest finding a "local"(this could be anywhere in your country as long as the shipping is cheap and they roast to order/multiple times per week or you literally have one in your town/area that you can travel to in person and buy beans and that place has good quality specialty beans, usually found by searching "specialty coffee in (your location/state/country)") roaster and seeing if they have a cheap blend that has tasting notes such as "velvet/nutty/chocolate" etc.
>>21432606
+2

>>21432615
I don't know what cheap is for coffee beans or what an average price is. Is $10-$15/lb good enough?

>>21432629
my floor is $25/lb.
so i would say shoot for $15-20
but if you want to experiment you could get 3 bags at $10, $15, $20 and compare them.
if you think $10 is perfectly fine then why spend more.
also i would say try and make sure you dont buy dark/black oily beans.
you can have a perfectly good "dark" roast without them being burnt and oily.

>>21430999
>coffee vending machine enthusiasts
if it's not a jap vending machine, it's low grade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u23fDiHSghA

>>21432731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns5xOs0v7L0

Not rinsing my filter today lads

>>21432753
please give a detailed report of the brew.

>>21432755
Doesnt taste like paper

>visiting parents for a month
>tell mom to order my favourite coffee
>she instead orders a massive bag of 54% coffee 46% chicory because it has less caffeine overall
I used to drink a similar thing back in my univ days when i was poor. Brings back so many memories. It's so fucking sour holy shit
Now all i need is fallout nv to really get in the univ days mood

>>21432769
yeh but what filters?

>>21432731
that's a rather small quantity of food for one meal, no?

>>21432777
Muh glorious nippon filters folded 1000 times

>>21432781
V60 in other words

>>21431975
the colored ones are so pretty ! I'll have to find something similar sold in the EU

>>21432773
>is retarded
>descend from retards
checks out

>>21431086
Anon, those are peanuts...

>>21431469
Are those 100g or 250g bags? Pricepoint?

captains log,
still no moccamaster or coffee brewer at home
now summer and I literally have nothing to do except sit on my ass
waking up at jocko hours 4-5am and by 12 I wonder why the fuck I'm exhausted and cooked, did not even have a sip during breakfast
maybe I should revert back to my caffeinated ways after all
popping caffeine pills I have laying around and drinking coke zero to cope
but it's just not hitting the way a few brews do
maybe I should start my cut once again, then caffeine is a must when you have nothing to eat intermittent fasting all day like a bitch and eating no calories and using caffeine as a apetite supressant
tell me ctg, is there truly no point in being a caffeine-less cuck?
my mood has been kind of more chill and relaxed and not as angsty though, however maybe that is purely from mental reasons not focusing on retarded shit and nothing related to being completely zooted off the caffeine

sipping convenience store machine coffee right now and gonna pop some high sugar donuts cause I feel like I was gonna pass out a 12am

I need caffeine, pussy and money, neither of these shits I have

I really need to pull myself together, saw a thicc thotty at the convenience store too which made me reconsider my life choices

>>21432948
two of the pink baskets are 200g, the white ones are 250g and takesi geisha is 120g
takesi geisha is really the most expensive coffee i bought, it costs 38 euros for a bag of 120g
kieni - 19 euros 250g
monte grande - 17 euros 250g
takesi catuai - 20 euros 200g
neyver geisha - 23 euros 200g
i bought it from kofio, it has a different selection of coffees from Coffee Collective than their website, from coffee collective the price is a bit less, but there's money conversion from the danish krona to euro + their shipping rates to my country are absurdly expensive
even with that in mind i wholeheartedly recommend it, i haven't tried this specific selection, but their coffees never deluded me besides one one specific (after dropping the temperature a lot, it was good though)
they are mostly washed coffees that are really clean

Oh shit my stepdown basket gets here today.

>>21432773
>tell mom to order my favourite coffee
You should come bearing gifts, like 2lb bag of good coffee to enjoy and share with them.
>>21432963
>tell me ctg, is there truly no point in being a caffeine-less cuck?
I gave up caffeine for a while to conceive a child. Back to having caffeine and unless you're creating offspring or have a health problem I see no reason to deprive yourself. Do you have a grinder? Any filters or a french press?

>>21433122
>to conceive a child
what?

>>21433194
you haven't heard? you don't need to wear condoms if you drink 3 or more cups of coffee a day.

>>21433254
what if you drink 6?

>>21433264
your penis will become inverted and your testes will turn into ovaries and ascend into your body

>trying to buy an aluminum-free moka pot on Amazon
Are there any that aren't garbage? Most of the word salad brand ones either rust or have aluminum anyway, and even Bialetti seems to have aluminum in their steel models

>>21433450
>aluminum-free
go be schizophrenic somewhere else.

goddamn, jimmy

>>21433452
That's the point, I don't want to get brain rot.

>>21433452
Aluminum moka pot was invented around the same time when people were using radium in consumer products including food. It's fair to have some concerns considering coffee acidity.

>>21433452
Aluminum corrodes, moron.

>>21433552
>It's fair to have some concerns considering coffee acidity.
not without any proof.
and there is none
the 1(ONE) study that people cite when saying aluminium cookware leads to Alzheimer's was fraudulent.
>>21433572
not if you use it right and take care of it
also
>aluminium
just the 1 singular kind of aluminium? bet you think moka pots and airplanes are made of the same material.
fucking retard.
all metals can corrode.

>waaah if I drink from the bad thing then I'll get alzheimers, heckin science told me so waaah ;_;

>>21433575
>not without any proof.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10655479/
Inb4 "you're not a tree"
>just the 1 singular kind of aluminium?
Yes, AL on the elemental table, fucking retard.

>cant use plastic
>cant use copper
>cant use aluminium
tf can i use, glass and ceramic?

>>21433633
You say that as if it hasn't been the majority of drinking vessels for all of recorded history.

>>21433640
i must say, i became humbled anon

>>21433597
>fucking retard.
>Aluminum is everywhere (from soda cans to airplanes) but not all types of aluminum are the same. Different alloys offer varying levels of strength, corrosion resistance, and workability, making it important to choose the right one for your project.
>Food-safe aluminum is a specific grade of aluminum alloy that is suitable for direct contact with food. It differs from regular aluminum in its purity, surface treatment, and the alloys used, ensuring it doesn't impart harmful substances or odors to food. It's often anodized or coated to enhance its corrosion resistance and prevent leaching, especially when exposed to acidic or salty foods.
now eat my shit and ask for seconds faggot.
>Inb4 "you're not a tree"
the tree part is irrelevant, that study literally has nothing to do with using foodsafe aluminium to make coffee with and then ingesting that coffee.

>>21433648
Alubrained post.

>>21433661
i accept your concession.
now get the fuck off my board.

>>21433665
>We made this neurotoxin food safe :)

>>21433450
I boughted 9090. It arrives tomorrow so I can't tell at the moment if it worth premium price or not. Need to brew some coffee with it and see how it goes. There's barely any info about it online despite being in production for almost 50 years.

>>21433676
>babies first strawman.
try again.

Is Chestnut C2/C3 the bare minimum I should be looking at for grinders?

>>21433731
kingrinder c1

I didn't rinse my v60 filter today because reasons and I honestly couldn't taste a difference between my coffee today and every other day when I rinse it. Is rinsing just a meme? I probably will still do it because of habit but is it actually just pointless

>>21433731
1zpresso q air/Kingrinder P2 if you're cheap. The $20 P0 has the same burr as C2. If you can go up to $100 get the Kingrinder K6.

>>21433782
>but is it actually just pointless
filters are better today than they were 10 years ago.

>>21433194
>not minmaxing your child's health
ngmi

>>21433816
>not having good enough genes that can tank any kind of damage

>>21433782
just do it tomorrow and taste the water that you poured before throwing it out and compare it to the rest of the water in your kettle

>>21433708
Moka pots are weird. They've around for nearly 100 years, are the primary coffee making tool for an entire European country, but there's only like 2-3 "well known" manufacturers of them, it's hard to find even basic details about specific models, and there's shitloads of misinfo/old wife's tales on how to actually use them.

>>21434096
> it's hard to find even basic details about specific models, and there's shitloads of misinfo/old wife's tales on how to actually use them.
A lot of things are like that. When you consider that half the population have double digit IQs, most of the remainder are normies, and a lot of the most competent just go into status-seeking, the world of "people who actually know how shit works" is actually extremely small.
I would think that there's also a language barrier in this particular case though.

>>21433803
>$20 coffee grinder
Might as well use a pepper mill at that point.

>>21434231
I use one as a peppermill. C2 is $69 on amazon right now, P0 is $22. Same burr. Same bottom adjustment. P0 might have smaller steps.

>>21433731
Get a Baratza Encore ESP, hand grinding sucks

my freeze distilled cold brew is ready. What should I mix it into? I'm thinking creamy oat milk and some monk fruit syrup.

>>21434280
not really
grinding for espresso sucks, grinding for pourover is not even remotely a concern

>>21434280
Get a DF54. Baratza Encore ESPs suck.

coffee

I thought all Leafs said Tim Horoton's coffee sucks now

goooooooood morning /ctg/!
cupping today, gonna post the results later
how's your brew going?

Morning goffee and tiramisu

>>21434909
clean your scale anon

>>21434909
you seem like you would know, why do people put the grounds right in the cup and then do an immersion brew in the same cup they're going to taste the coffee from, rather than make each coffee in an actual coffee maker and pour it into a cup?

>>21434935
>rather than make each coffee in an actual coffee maker and pour it into a cup?
because thats not what cupping is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSEgP4VNynQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEZZCQTSSAg

>>21434909
blogpost alert
tasted half blind by mixed the cups, in the end it was kinda confusing since all the expensive coffees were on the beginning so it kinda made difficult to understand the last two (which were kieni and monte grande)
so my verdict
>kieni
as expected, it was a floral specially as it was cooling down, tasted like classic kenyan coffee, really good
>monte grande
way fruitier than i was expecting from the origin and tasting notes, extremely clean too, peruvian coffees are massively underrated, but i still have to find one that disappoints me
>neyver geisha
sweetbomb at the start, cleaner as it cooled (i usually find washed coffees better to drink as hot as possible, for me they tend to show more character that way), chocolaty and milky, but in a clean sense and not a bitter one, just extremely sweet and candy-like
>takesi geisha
the sweetest by far, fruity, really good, perhaps it will show more of a floral characteristic when brewed on the v60
>takesi catuai
extremely weird, sweet with a bubblegum-like taste, but fermenty too (its a washed coffee), full of character but not something i would drink everyday, though extremely interesting and quite fun to show people who dont know how coffee can taste
as it cooled down, most coffees went to a default characteristic, citrusy and floral, lost a lot of the chracater but all extremely clean as it cooled, but i still state that washed coffees are better drank as hot as possible (for me)
ill probably post about those coffees on the v60 to see if they change any of their characteristic
>>21434935
it's just easier, unless you have 5 brewers you cant do all at the same time, and if you have one you need to do one, then clean, then do, and by the time you finish the first will be already cold
>>21434915
you are right lulz, i use this scale for cooking too

>>21434952
>sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet
hope you dont get tired of it by the end.

>>21434935
it has the function of removing the human element that introduces variables in the brewing process to produce a cup that shows the widest variety of flavors a given coffee can present
if you had five cafetieres on hand you could use those, i suppose
but even that has some variability in how the press is applied
>>21434952
sounds just lovely, anon

>>21434989
i dont think ill get tired of them, the sweetness of a washed coffee is way more tamed and balanced than one of a natural/anaerobic
i spent 2 months drinking only fermented coffees and i couldn't wait to get some washed ones
even the sweetest washed coffee can't compare to something that has one of those meme fermentations (and by your fourth cup you want to throw up)

i'm drinking coffee right now

best place to get yemeni coffee?

>>21435093
Yemen

>>21434255
Why that huge price gap?

>>21435135
Trickle down coffeenomics. P0 is in a plastic body, c2 is in alu.

>>21433633
>use glass
>has uranium in it
>use ceramic
>whoops it's lead lined

Got my new fellow ode 2 brought out to me and tried it out
I put the grind setting to somewhere slightly below the middle of what they recommend for pour over as a starting point

>>21435491
Grind seems much more even than my hario skerton

>>21435495
Welcome to midrange flats. Enjoy your stay hospitalnon.

>>21435495
Brewed pretty nicely, but the water ran through faster than usual for me, and the coffee i made tasted of less. Not bad, just not as much taste as the one i made with my skerton this morning

I guess I just have to experiment with settings and go finer
Thanks for reading my blog

>>21435512
yeah the decreased fine production and smaller size distribution (how close in size the grounds are to each other) will decrease drawdown time and would explain why it tastes lesser compared to the coffee youre used to. fines contribute a lot to flavor.
you can also use more pours, more agitation, or even thicker papers instead of grinding finer to get more out of the coffee. i mention this because grinding finer can sometimes cause astringency and other off flavors.
also i would recommend you try to make sure your filters are firmly pressed against the sides of the dripper, as the way its pulling away in the photo will encourage bypass.
hope you get well soon anon (:

>>21435512
I use 3.1 or 3.2 (depending on the brewer) for most light roasts with my Ode 2.

>>21429033 (OP)
Bump for Robert De Niro

He always chugs a lot of coffees in his movies especially if it's a big heist/crime movie. That's why he's always successful in the movie, cause he's alert from the coffee. Decaffers lose/will never see the money

>>21434909
based mug

coffee time
and peanut butter toast for breakfast(lunch(afternoon tea))

>>21436023
Thanks, I’ll adjust the grind size first and then other factors later. I already know that I can get a good coffee with the other equipment so not too worried
>>21436745
I’ll try that today

The morning office brew

drinking coffee

>>21434909
>how's your brew going?
It's good.

>>21434909
Millions must brew.

My espresso is tasting kinda bitter. The ratio/time is right, but when I go a tiny bit coarser it starts channeling?

Alright I got good news and terrible news.
1) Fridge cold brewing is an amazing way to recycle old grounds
2) I'll never trust someone else's cold brew from now on.

>>21437728
Fridge? Doesn't it take longer at cold temps?

>>21437728
>1) Fridge cold brewing is an amazing way to recycle old grounds
excuse me

>>21437568
cute hands
hope they are properly moisturized.

>>21437760
Yes it does. Was hoping that'd pull fewer off flavors. Seems like I was right.

>>21437571
grind finer retard

>>21437728
>>21437791
You're a disgusting individual.

>>21437728
I just made some. so good.

Very very tasty 40 days out (minmax french roast). I've got some greens of it when I'm done with this bag too.

>>21437792
>bitter
>go finer
wut

>>21438680
try it

Made some spro, gf liked it

>>21439555
goon friend?

>>21439560
No

>>21437568
She cute

>>21437568
Oh twink of the spoon, what is your wisdom?

>>21439596
>She

I've been wondering lately, what do you think is the typical $/kg they use at cafes? Can't be that high actually, because it would cut into their margins too much, right?
So the average /ctg/ anon probably makes better coffee at home than the professionals. Maybe it's different for espresso because a commercial set-up is like 3-4x as expensive as a typical quality home set-up and that makes up for the lower bean quality?

Sucking an Aeropress coffee lads

>>21439677
I fucking love plastic

>>21439676
what kind of cafe?
like normie cafe or specialty?
normie cafes probably $10-15/kg
specialty cafes probably $30-60 depending if they have a deal with a roaster.
also cafes usually sell more than just coffee.
and most of the drinks they sell will be milk drinks, which add a trivial amount of milk but will add a dollar or two to the price.

>>21439681
Do microplastics get into the coffee? I hope not

I could use my french press instead. It just annoys me a bit more, rinsing out the filter properly.

>>21439699
The plastics we consume through food tend to be large and are excreted. The microplastics in your body mostly come from tiny particles floating in the air, such as tire residue. So if you want to limit your microplastic intake, you should stop breathing but you can keep using the aeropress.

>>21439721
>The microplastics in your body mostly come from tiny particles floating in the air, such as tire residue. So if you want to limit your microplastic intake, you should stop breathing but you can keep using the aeropress.
Interesting. Speaking of stuff in the air, sometimes I go running outside, and I've been thinking that everybody should have electric cars, because it would mean I don't have to breathe in exhaust fumes from traffic. But I guess you're right about tyres - little bits of rubber come off the tyres (and I guess there is brake dust too), which we must be breathing in. Still, electric cars would at least reduce the amount of shit in the air, compared to petrol/diesel cars.

bought a coffee at 7-11 and did not take from the brewer but instead of the immigrant made pre brewed coffe, it was so piss weak and literally tasted like diluted tea water, I even took an extra large, It was so fucking bad I had to pour it out on the side walk
never trust a migrant making your coffee
it's over
I took my L and moved on

>>21437571
Maybe the coffee doesn't work well for espresso. Grind even coarser and do a turbo shot to get rid of the channeling.

>>21437774
>>21437794
People do the same thing for tea. One small cup hot and then your usual cold brew.

>>21437728
>>21437803
Did you do immersion or percolation for the hot brew?

Sometimes I think brushing out my grinder is better than the cofe itself

i thought coffee autism was bad but i looked at the tea thread and it's even worse

>>21439841
put leaf in hot water, done.
at least coffee has quibbles about grinding, technique, dialing in, etc.

>>21437728
I'd be wary of reusing grounds, the heat + wetness is a breeding ground for microorganisms & mold.

>The million dollar question that /ctg/ has not yet been able to answer

>>21440028
The most influential part is the resulting change in temperature.
1) for dark roasts
2) for light roasts

>>21439841
We established in a previous thread that espresso drinkers are fascists, whereas tea drinkers are social democrats which means they are naturally higher in neuroticism and lower in disgust response.

>>21440159
>and lower in disgust response.
actually their disgust response is higher than average but its inverted.

>>21434952
a bit of a follow up
i tried takesi catuai and it was really good, berry like if i remember correctly (it was yesterday)
i fucked up brewing takesi geisha because i put to much buffer in the water, tasted brown but i guess its my fault

>>21439789
>Did you do immersion or percolation for the hot brew?
It's cold brew

>>21437571
>The ratio/time is right
Then why is it bitter? :)

Is there anything I should know about these regions in regards to their coffee?
I literally just randomly pick a choice from my roaster's seasonal selection even though I feel like I should inform myself a bit first

>>21439676
Normie cafes in Australia go to Aldi and buy bags of their $20/kg AUD generic.

>>21441389
lol
thats literally what i did in my comment
>>21439682
i just typed "aldi 1kg coffee" and took an average of prices.
but thats also what most people have at home so i guess it makes sense.

>>21440912
>$20
for how much?
take this with a grain of salt
https://ignitecoffee.com.au/blogs/thecoffeeblog/coffee-regions-around-the-world-and-their-flavour-profiles
but the best way to really know the characteristics of a region is just to taste it for yourself.
but the roast and the process(and the variety) will dictate how it tastes more than just the region.
region is important but its not the be all end all(usually)

>>21441630
Thanks for the link. I'll give it a read.
>for how much?
340g / 0.75lb
It's also 2lb for $49 CAD and 5lb for $112 CAD

>>21441649
thats alright

Start the new thread before I have to piss again.

>>21437728
>recycle old grounds
Please don't; use it for gardening if you wanna re-use it.

>>21439676
depends on the cafe.

We had a good few weeks before the animeposters came back. Oh well.

>>21429033 (OP)
Man, it's really annoying being labelled a "coffee snob" when most coffee tastes like shit when consumed black with nothing added. Companies just burn the hell out of their beans because people are gonna sweeten and lighten it up anyway.

8 O'clock, Gevalia, and Dunkin' Donuts actually get roasting levels right but I'm a "coffee snob" for not liking Maxwell House and Starbucks.

>>21442168
Anon you're not a snob for enjoying some of the cheapest mass appeal coffee on the market.

>>21442168
Yeah well

guys my wide spout kettle is making my coffee taste so different each time :-(

No coffee today chat. We're drinking red bull.

>>21440301
it was definitely the water, today the peru was a gem, really nutty and nice
>>21442632
get an infusion brewer for better consistency, i love the switch
>>21443130
oh ye of little faith
>>21443130

>>21442632
goosenecks exist for a reason

>>21442168
people call me a snob for drinking coffee from my $30 moka pot while they drink from their $30 keurig, and for buying my $22.50/pound coffee from a local roaster instead of $25/pound coffee from SBs.

finally
coffee
was starting to get a headache

Hot take: New Guinea coffee good

>>21444201

>>21444201
Compared to froglers? Sure. Compared to good coofey no chance.

>>21444239
better than indian co-hee

>>21437501
stfu baggot

>>21444264
Thats not saying much.

Goddamn!

Turned my Ode 2 down to 3.1 for pour over a few days ago and have had some great cups since

>>21433708
well? where's the review?

>>21444596
he had to return it under the lifetime warranty for the faulty pressure valve

>>21444607
Kek. I can't believe that guy got bullied into a min wage cafe job.

>>21444201
taste is subjective

>accidentally season coffee with salt and pepper
it's so over

>>21446032
>accidentally seasoned my grinder with salt instead of coffee
it's so over

>>21444318
It's saying a lot (india sucks)

I have a bag of coffee in this sort of packaging that's probably 2 years past the best before date. Can I still use it for cold brew or does coffee spoil?

Made lungo

>>21446160
i dont believe you
i bet it was a ristretto

>>21446078
>Can I still use it for cold brew or does coffee spoil?
if it's not moldy (which is basically impossible)
just brew a cup and try it

>that's probably 2 years past the best before date
it'll most likely won't taste great
but you never know if you don't try it

coffee beans can't "spoil"
they typically just lose their taste

>>21446168
I'll ristretto your mom, if you know what I mean

>>21446212
you want to give my mum something small?

>>21446223
Something black, intense, and hard to swallow

>>21446334
with cream

>>21446334
but it is small
you do know that right?

>>21446967
Kino

>I spotted a moccamaster optio refurb matte black on their site and instantly bought it
we are so back

>>21446989
Oh baby.

good bean

>>21446967
he's literally me

>>21446078
if the roast is dark enough that oils are accumulating on the outside of the beans, those oils can turn rancid
youd be able to smell this most likely

>>21444583
i have an ode too, i usually work on the range around for, sometimes finer sometimes coarser, but most of the times i start at 4

>>21446989
how can this piece of plastic junk compare to a proper pour over?

>>21447172
It doesn't

is Baratza Encore ESP the pourover grinder to get for ~200?

>>21447339
No.

>>21447350
then what is

There’s only one way to start an Independence Day morning.

>>21447364

>>21447364
What is the

>>21447353
Spend $20 more and get a df54. Then down the road spend a few more bucks and get brew burrs or reverse your motor and get ditting steelies.

>>21435512
I appreciate your blog
I was considering buying this grinder too, as a step up from my c2

>>21447394
>df54
double the price in my country

>>21447429
Tell us where you are then retardo.

>>21447440
swedistan

>>21447450
Travel somewhere nicer.

>>21447954
>>21447954
>>21447954

>>21447172
>>21447221
I have never done a single pour over coffee in my entire life
I suspect it would get real old, real quick
>let's just make my life more manual
too tired for this

>>21448271
Less old than posting daily not having a machine at all?

>>21448271
It's actually quite nice and I'm very lazy.