Thread 21432234

How effective is freezing when it comes to expiry dates?

Would using a butter that is 2 months out of date but was frozen the entire time to bake apple pie a bad idea?

>>21432234 (OP)
yes you can freeze milk, cream, butter, and cheese and extend the date

I've used butter a year out of date and not only am I still alive to tell you that but I'm on an enormous amount of immunosuppressants. If that would kill anyone, it would be me. I ain't dead so it's demonstrably fine. The bigger issue is picking up off flavours. With good packaging, you can mitigate that for quite some time but it isn't indefinite so just taste some of the butter before you bake a pie with it.
It's that simple.

>>21432234 (OP)
it's fine, freezing pretty much puts the expiry date on hold indefinitely. it will start to degrade in quality after like 6 months to a year, but even then it won't go bad the way it would normally. it might just get texturally weird.

>>21432244
>it isn't indefinite
>>21432249
>it is indefinite
Who to believe?

>>21432256
Considering those two posts were talking about different things, you should worry about learning to read before you worry about which Internet strangers to trust

>>21432256
I've got some butter that's a few months out of sell by date, the outer surface looks kinda dense but it doesn't taste any different. Long as you keep it refrigerated, I don't believe it will go rancid.

>>21432242
Freezing cream is bullshit. All the fat separates into globules.

I freeze butter all the time

>>21432287
Just mix it back in retard

>freezing butter
Eastern Europe goes hard.

>>21432275
Having your period, vaginanon?

>>21432295
that doesn't work with cream, you can't whip it properly once it's separated. that's why they add emulsifiers and shit to commercial whipping cream and stuff like that.

>>21432234 (OP)
blocks of perfectly persevered butter can sometimes be found in bogs throughout the uk and Ireland, so i think its safe

>>21432308
>you can't whip it properly once it's separated
Maybe you can't, scrub

Fat oxidizes even at zero temps hence freezer smell but if its vac packed air tight its all right

>>21432295
>whip cream
>it separates into butter and milk
>whip butter and milk
>it re-emulsifies back into cream
@grok, is this true?

>>21432459
yeah

>>21432234 (OP)
pretty sure butter is fine forever in the fridge, unless it smells funny or has visible mold

>>21432234 (OP)
>butter that is 2 months out of date but was frozen the entire time
Breh I'd use butter 2 years past expiry kept at room temperature if it looked and smelled good

>>21433007
You should kill yourself. No one would miss you and one less slob taking up resources would benefit the world.

>>21433012
>taking up resources
I fast a lot for health and youth, so I consume way less than you and look way better than you, fatty.
no idea why you got mad
several people stated their scientific opinions ITT, and it's obvious you're not supposed to trust any of them, Rajeesh.

>>21433015
Don't care. Didn't ask. Didn't read. You should kill yourself.

>>21432234 (OP)
I buy 3-4 kilos of butter from this local farmer and I freeze a portion of it. There's no issue.

>>21432234 (OP)
>Would using a butter that is 2 months out of date but was frozen the entire time to bake apple pie a bad idea?
That's fine. Unless there's freezer burn on it (unlikely) it's fine to eat.

>>21432244
>just taste some of the butter before you bake a pie with it.
>It's that simple.
This. There is a lot of time and effort to find out after the fact if the butter had an off flavor from freezer flavors, or had become rancid. Taste test it with a piece of an expermental slice of toast or similar. Simple.

I had a tick in the freezer for 7 years, threw it out and it still looked good

>>21433198
>a tick
?

>>21433233
Yes, if you spot one of them crawling near you it's good to keep it, just in case. After the first few months it was more revenge than necessity

>>21433251
>just in case
just in case for what?
What are you talking about?

>>21432234 (OP)
>Would using a butter
>a butter

>>21433262
bites

>>21433273
No issues with that, ESL-kun.

>>21432234 (OP)
there are no expiration dates on food.

freezing butter is not a problem.


explain how frozen butter will go bad.

>>21433273
are you retarded?

>>21433609
Food still oxidizes in the freezer, just much slower. Eventually it will go bad, it just takes a very long time.

>>21432234 (OP)
a butter what?

>>21432234 (OP)
butter freezes just fine but I'd put it in a sealed container for long term storage so it doesn't absorb any weird flavors or smells

>>21432256
whom

>>21432234 (OP)
>Would using a butter that is 2 months out of date but was frozen the entire time to bake apple pie a bad idea?
Maybe.

(1) it will pick up that nasty "refrigerator odor" and make whatever it's put in taste like crap, and
(2) even in the freezer, butter can still develop mold internally.

I used to freeze butter for a long time because I didn't use it much, and both of these were problems. I'd take out a stick that had never been unwrapped, let it thaw for a few minutes, break it in half, and find a huge vein of black mold inside it.

Not to mention that it still oxidizes (unless you have some sort of oxygen-proof container for it with oxygen absorbers inside) and so the outside gets those hard yellow rancid bits.

>>21432275
based