Thread 21449703

What would your recommendations be to a newbie to whisk(e)y, /ck/?
I would recommend the following:
>try a wheated bourbon, a "standard" mash bill bourbon like Wild Turkey 101, a high-rye bourbon, a rye whiskey, a peated single malt Scotch, an unpeated sherry cask-aged single malt Scotch, and an unpeated bourbon cask-aged single malt Scotch - you will figure out what you like and don't like quite quickly by doing this
>avoid Johnnie Walker like the plague, as it is all bad, boring and overpriced

>>21449703 (OP)
babbys first scotch: monkey shoulder or dimple pinch
bourbon: weller SR or literally anything heaven hill

>>21449711
>weller SR
if you can find it


I personally can't stand the stuff even at MSRP.

>>21449703 (OP)
whatever you get, drink it on plenty of ice or all the subtler flavors will be overpowered by the ethyl notes

>>21449741
lol

no

>>21449742
>>21449745
this is what I learned from going to a whiskey drinking class hosted by a genuine irish alcoholic. There were powerpoint slides, so I'm pretty sure he knew a thing or two

>>21449760
Just because you learned from a retard doesn't mean it must be emulated.

Feel free to enjoy your whiskey with ice, but it is in no way "wrong" to drink it straight at room temp.

>>21449712
its everywhere in okc

>>21449741
reddit

Nothing pricey, it would be a waste for someone without refined taste. Probably recommend something decent that's on sale, desu.

>>21449764
That's rather flippant of you to dismiss this expert that I brought into the discussion as a retard. This was a small side hustle he had going, but you could tell he put a lot of effort into it and I think about his presentation to this day. Also, I never said it was wrong to enjoy whiskey at room temperature; you have reading comprehension issues. All I did was outline the consequence to drinking whiskey without ice, namely that it tastes strongly of alcohol and not much else. That's a fact. You can't dispute that. If you want to accept the consequences and burn your tongue on un-iced whiskey, that's your prerogative. There's no accounting for taste.

>>21449808
>consequence
Ahh yes, i'll taste it as it was intended, how horrible

>>21449808
>namely that it tastes strongly of alcohol and not much else
Nigga you're drinking the wrong whiskies.

>>21449703 (OP)
Recommendations for someone who loves wee beastie? I want to get a different bottle but my mind is empty day.

>>21450614
Ardbeg 10 or Laphroaig 10, obviously.

>>21449703 (OP)
I'm Irish and the only Bourbon we get here unless you go specialist is Buffalo Trace or Makers. That ok? I mean, I like a bourbon manhattan

>>21449711
>weller SR
tried it for the first time the other day. Super overrated. IMO for a beginner you're better off getting Makers, WT101, or bulleit bourbon.

>>21449808
>burn your tongue
WWAAAAAAAAH MOMMY THE FIRE WATER BURNED MY TONGUEY-WONGUEY I NEED ICE CREAM RIGHT NAO SOOO SPICCYYYY ABLOO BLOO

pro tip take smaller sips ya dumb babby

>>21449703 (OP)
Johnny Walker is fine. Black label is better than most bourbons I've tried.

>>21451849
It's crap - especially Green.

>>21451849
Based

>>21451958
You just expose yourself everytime with that opinion.

Green is objectively the BEST johnnie walker (among the regular releases)

>>21452017
>everytime
???
First time I've said that bro.
That's also like saying diarrhea is objectively the best shit but yeah.

>>21452025
You make the same posts everytime.

You're the same retard that cries anytime someone talks well about a diageo owned whiskey.

>>21452025
he's a literal paid diageo shill who desperately tries to frame all posters who say negative things about diageo whiskies as being the same bogeyman to attempt to erode their credibility
standard shill narrative warfare stuff he has been doing it for years here
just ignore him

>>21452718
Oh boy, the schizo is replying to himself AND imagining diageo gives enough of a shit to pay anyone to shitpost on /ck/ for the better part of a decade.


Oh and for me?
It's talisker 10 year

QUICK!!!!

POST YOUR FAVORITE LOCAL BRAND!!!

>>21452910
Local? Probably dead guy. It's close to a bourbon. Not great neat but makes a decent cocktail.
Monkey puzzle isn't horrible either.

>>21452910
Barrel King
they have a lot of variety in their whisky which scratches that itch but also pretty much everything I've tried from them has been really good

>>21452910
Sagamore

>>21450614
Port Charlott 10

>>21452718
Ah, I see. Thank you for the heads up.
Words cannot measure how disappointed by Johnnie Walker Green I was.
First off, it's minimum 15 years old yet there is not a hint of oak in it. How is that even possible? How fucking terrible and exhausted are the casks used for it?
Where there should be oak flavor, there is, instead, the flavor of raw sewage. Also, perfume. It tastes like perfume and raw sewage.
Most Johnnie Walkers are simply poor values by virtue of being extremely boring - they are inoffensive but possess nothing at all to excite the palate. Green is actually actively offensive tasting.

>>21453355
And yet in almost EVERY blind tasting you can find on youtube for the JW lineup, green is usually the winner or at least top 2.

>>21453431
laypalates are not a testament to quality
most people like wheater bourbons with low proof because most people aren't accustomed to the burn of drinking whiskey straight

>>21452924
A lot of beer companies make spirits as a tax writeoff. You shouldn't buy them.

>>21453442
>>21453439
Lmao you're trying too hard.

>>21449784
Black barrel is much better if you are set on drinking Jameson.

>>21453475
I like em both

Anyone been to the Heaven Hill, Wild Turkey, and/or Willett distilleries? I'm doing a mini bourbon trail for my birthday. Anything special to look out for? Not looking for crazy bottles or anything, and I know about Jimmy Russell signing bottles and the egg salad sandwiches at Willett

>>21451849
my boss gifted me a golden label bottle when I got promoted and let me tell you I am now a fan of that brand.

only buy whusky if it comes with a glass.
i have so many glasses man. it's absurd

>>21455109
The bottle is glass.

>>21449703 (OP)
I have never met an Irish whiskey I didn't like. Jameson for column still, vs Bushmills for copper pot still. Both are wonderful! Scotch is very complex for a beginner's pallet. I would avoid it. Same said for American Rye. American bourbon I find mashbills containing wheat or just American Wheated whiskey is much more approachable for a beginner (think Makers Mark vs Jack Daniels). I am gin drinker however...

>>21455687
>I hate flavor: the post

>>21455687
Irish whiskey and rye are the best bourbon fags are in shambles.

I believe I read here someone say that JW Double Black didn't have much of a peat taste to it, but I picked up a bottle and it definitely does.

>>21456396
It is a light, subtle flavor of peat.
There's significantly less peat than something with a "medium" level of peat like a Springbank 10.

>>21457065
I mean, JWDB is an introduction to peat for the wider consumer market, it isn't MEANT to be an islay-style peat bomb. JW Black is a light peat that you can overlook due to how light it is, but JWDB is light-medium peat and is clearly present unless you've blown out your palette on Laphroaig or similar and just NEED a kick in the face worth of peat to consider it peaty at all.

>>21457185
>40% ABV
43% in America

>>21457073
>but JWDB is light-medium peat and is clearly present unless you like whisky with actual flavor
Yeah.

>>21457214
No need to embarrass yourself further, you've done enough.

>>21457198
>HIGH IN PEATED MALT
Is this like, actually high in peated malt or more like completely fucking undetectable peat like Johnnie Walker Double Black?

>>21459000
You say this like it's some kind of jab against johnnie walker when in reality it just makes you look retarded.

>>21449741
I can drink whiskey neat but ice is better
>>21449745
>>21449768
the (((experts))) tell you to run your hand under the sink and drip water off your fingers into the whiskey.

swapped to tequila for the summer
settled on Patrón for my go-to brand
might still try Lalo

gross

>>21459000
Teacher's Highland Cream is known for having 20-40% Ardmore malt component which is a Highland style peat and only around 14-20 ppm. The peat is more apparent in Teacher's compared to JWB which is rested in ex Caol Ila barrels as well as having a small percentage of the malt in the blends. IMHO JWB peat smoke fades substantially after being open for a week or two, but the burnt sugar aftertaste is always present.

>>21459342
that Arette is better than the Patron

>>21449742
This.

I think my next whisky order will include some more Calvados.
Calvados is fucking nice.

Usually I get Ardbeg but Laphroaig is pretty kino too. It's cask strength so I did dilute it a bit with water.

>>21462220
>so I did dilute it a bit with water

>>21462222
Just a tiny splash. This one isn't so bad at 48% but a bit of water really makes it smell more like iodine and opens it up. I don't understand the butthurt over adding water to stronger whiskies.

>>21462226
Don't be gay, anon.
Don't be gay.

>>21462238
I'll try harder, but I prefer like 42%

>>21454865
I just did a crazy one last October, like 10 distilleries. Rabbit hole was incredible. nice. i went to evan williams bardstown angels envy bulleit michters heaven hill woodford reserve and willet. Some had better tours then others, but they all kinda start sounding the same after a few of them and you want to skip to the bourbon. Bardstown let us drink straight from the barrel. For sure the best bourbon was rabbithole, bardstown, willet, heaven hill. I’ve been drinking some bib n Tucker lately tho.

>>21449703 (OP)
Whats the verdict on Four Roses, burbon bros. Is it good? The Small Batch is my favorite Whiskey. I'm also partial to ryes, they have a very soft sweet undernote that makes them a pleasure to sip.

>>21462226
Stop worrying about what some shitposter thinks about how you drink. Did he pay for the bottle? Do whatever you want.

I LIKE CUTTY SARK SUCK MY DICK

>>21462291
The small batch is drinkable and affordable. I’ve been drinking all kinds of Heavens Door variations and enjoying them. I had a single barrel the other day for 85$ at 62% alcohol, just too strong lol but good for a cigar.

>>21462300
Oh no, I don't really care. I know what I like and I know a lot of non-shitposters agree with my stance. It's about having fun while drunk and talking about interests even if people wanna be fags. It's all cool.

On topic, my favorite whiskey ever is probably just the Ardbeg 10. I've had like Johnnie Walker Green, Macallan 15, Ardbeg's Corryvreckan, and a bunch of other stuff. After a certain point price really is just dick waving and its only worth it at corporate events when someone else is paying for it. I'd pick Ardbeg 10 over most more expensive whiskies because I like the taste and peat profile. The iodine is why I like Laphroaig.

>>21462220
Quarter cask is not cask strength.

>>21462639
This

>>21462328
You sound like a moron stop posting.

Also endorsing Laphroaig if you want to get into Islay malts. Drink it out of a beer glass to get the full peat experience.

If you like sweeter whiskies, Balvenie Doublewood is a very pleasant Speyside malt.

>>21449703 (OP)
I've tried all of the Johnnie Walkers in different ways, and the only thing notable for me was Gold when mixed with Coke; there are more interesting things to buy and drink instead.

>>21462222
Absolutely nothing wrong with adding a bit of water to your whisky if that's what you prefer. It does, as the anon you replied to mentioned, open it up and can give you a different experience. Whisky is a drink that's meant to be enjoyed--there's nothing you need to prove by drinking it--and the best is when you are able to share that enjoyment with others.

Had this the other day, great shit with not enough actually drunk to say much about it.
That aside, how do you non-addicts manage your drinking when the whispers start calling?

>>21463235
I just drink a weekend every blue moon, it's about not being an alcoholic

Red pill me on Jack Daniel’s

>>21463235
>how do you non-addicts manage your drinking when the whispers start calling?
I just drink when I feel like it, and that's never really been a problem for me. Sometimes I'll go weeks without having a drink, and sometimes I'll have one every evening. I've never really had to think about it.

>>21463252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik79opoEMbc
I think they're cooperage is in Alabama.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaXvFw8ve_I

Just got back from my local

Grabbed an Eagle Rare 10, Redbreast 15, Hakashu 12, and an Elijah Craig private barrel (9 year 123.7 proof)

>>21463339
>Hakashu 12
Hakushu 12

>>21459510
nah arette has a bitter note that ruins the agave goodness. youre just a redditor told to hate patrón because its filtered lol

>>21463343
Bless you

>>21463347
thank you

>>21463345
>any criticism is hate
shut up Patron shill

the new Laphroaig Cairdeas Lore Cask Strength. initial impression is good, but not stellar. it came in Thursday and there was only one video review out at the time and nothing on whiskybase to my knowledge. I havent added water yet, but its lacking the smoked oyster note my 2016 Lore had for the first couple pours. which is the part I was most hoping would reappear. my guess is that the older stock in this cask strength version was of a different makeup and/or even less teaspooned than before. at least its more complex than the 2024 Cairdeas(unless mine has still not properly open up). I'll have to compare the 2016 Lore with this new one in a month or so. it's also very drinkable at 59.6%.

>>21463788
retard

>>21463923
suck my dick faggot

>>21463888
>yet
>>21463475

What's an underrated whiskey?

>>21464725
Dewar's

>>21465881
any particular bottle you would rec?

>>21465912
I was specifically referring to the White Label, which, despite only being around $20 for a 1.75 L bottle at Costco, is superior to the significantly more expensive Johnnie Walker Black Label.
It's not going to blow you away or anything but it makes a fine mixing Scotch.

>>21465924
cool, thanks

>>21462265
Thanks. And yeah, we're only doing the actual tour for 1 or 2 of them, it's kinda pointless to do that for all of them. I'm doing the You Do Bourbon thing at Heaven Hill where you get to pick between special small batches of barrel proof Elijah Craig, Larceny, or Bernheim and pour your own bottle.

>>21463235
I just drink one dram per night at the most.
I get a headache when I have more than one so I just don't.

>>21449703 (OP)
>Black label
When I'm feeling bougie
>Canadian Club 12 year aged
Daily driver

>>21468580
>when I'm feeling bougie I drink a ~$30 bottle that's notably inferior to most $30 bottles
Imagine being this poor and dumb.

>>21469622
I don't have to imagine :)
Also black label 750ml is like 60 syrupbux
Everything else is sub 40

I'm VERY impressed with Old Overholt, liquor store 20 minutes away has a liter bottle of it for $20! Best price point to flavor ratio imo, better than this thread's big mainstays like EW BiB (and I'm a big EW fan) or Old Grand Dad

>>21469678
Congratulations, you discovered that rye > bourbon.

>>21469702
Still love 'em both, some ryes are too spicy without enough complexity to justify it

>>21469678
Is this good? The 80 proof stuff was vile.

>>21469678
>>21469768
I like the bottled in bond bc I love rye spice, the A Overholt isn't available in my state, but I bought one on a trip and it is great makes an incredible old fashioned

>>21469721
I really enjoy Willett single barrel bourbons as they tend to be very spicy and on the rye side of things (while still being bourbon).

Though finding these fuckers is difficult, and I wouldn't pay 2ndary pricing.

>he doesn't have $150,000+ worth of whiskey in his basement bar

what are you, poor?

>>21469878
>what are you, poor?
Compared to him, yeah.

Also is that really $150,000+? My rough guess just on a glance would say maybe $25-50k at most.

>>21469889
>is that really $150,000+
Looks like it
>2x Pappy 23
>2x Pappy 20
>2x William Larue Weller
>2x Sazerac 18
>2x Eagle Rare 17
>~10x Four roses single barrels, likely rare ones based on the rest of the bottles
>11-12x Bookers releases
>11-12x Willett purple tops
>10-12x Parkers Heritage releases
>10-12x Blantons releases
>8x Old Forrester Birthday Bourbon
>10-12x EH Taylor various releases
>O.F.C 1996
>2x Heaven Hill 17
>'90s or early 2000s "squat" bottle Old Rip Van Winkle
>King of Kentucky
>Michters 10
>Michters 20
>Michters 25
>vintage Van Hook (likely ~100-110 years old)
>vintage Old Fitzgerald
>another even older vintage Old Fitzgerald
>~8x various Old Fitzgerald releases, most look like 17 year
>~10 bottles of various Woodford master's collection releases
and a few more i can't see too well besides
Some of those bottles you'd need to sell at auction to see fair value though, but yeah that's $150k, potentially even $200k+.
It's only missing a handful of similarly rare bourbons.

>>21469878
>it's all bourbon
Pathetic lack of variety.

>>21469970
Nah, there is some rye up there

>>21469972
That's still a shocking lack of variety.

>>21469980
They've got 3 types of bourbon, corn forward, rye forward, wheat forward, and not bourbon rye whiskey.

That's variety within the world of bourbon.

>>21469985
I mean I just can't imagine only drinking bourbon and rye. I gotta have some Scotch here and there. Some Armagnac. Some Calvados. Some tawny Port. Some Irish single pot still.

>>21469988
Some of that kind of shit is there too, though behind the bar not in a display cabinet

Rye bros, is sazerac worth $30? I've never tried it or any Buffalo Trace products as far as I know. The proof is low, so I always go for cheap/cheaper bib rye

>>21469878
>>21469934
I'd rather have a down payment on a house than a collection of brown juice. Though clearly this person can afford both.

>>21469878
fragile masculinity: the room

>>21469874
I'd hate to see what secondary is on these considering MSRP is like $400

>Tried Spice King for the first time
>Only $55
Might have found my new go to Islay scotch

>>21471207
MSRP on 8 years in 2025 is $300

7 years is $250
8 years is $300
9 years is ~$350
10 years is ~$480
11 years is ~$520
Not sure about 12+ years, I haven't seen any in the past few years that age or older.

If a store is charging $400 for an 8 year, that's not MSRP.

>>21471207
>>21471281
Secondary pricing is anywhere from ~$75-125 per year.

A 10-year-old will cost around $750-$1,250, depending on location/local availability. The higher end of that price range is primarily seen in Europe and Asia, where expensive bourbon is not imported regularly.

The lower age bottles can sometimes be a bit cheaper. A 7-year is likely to be $350-750 instead of $500-900, though again it can depend on your location.

>Can't drink because I know I'll become an alcoholic
Fucking shit man

>>21471281
>>21471323
I can't afford their single barrel bourbon.

I sometimes buy their 4 year rye though, a bit pricey but good, and under $100.

>>21470080
It's a $30 rye. It's small-batch and aged four years. Planning on making a Sazerac?

bump it

>>21462220
>drinking Laphroaig from a Bushmills glass
some sorta sacrilege

>>21469678
get the 114 proof if you can find it

>>21470080
Its actually really nice. Retains the Kentucky Bourbon heat with a sweet undernote that makes it very sippable. Highly recommend.

>>21471568
>become an alcoholic
>can drink all the time
idk worked on my machine

>>21472745
>I sometimes buy their 4 year rye though, a bit pricey but good, and under $100.
It's finally becoming readily available here (MI) and it makes great Manhattans. I think it'll be in my regular rotation as long as I can keep finding it.

Posting that I am playing RS3, watching True Detective, and enjoying my first Lagavulin 8, which is surprisingly similair to 16 yet has a super fresh aftertaste to it as opposed to the more deep/elaborate 16. Not unpleasant.

Holy shit I cannot even begin to describe this. By far the most unique tasting whiskey I have ever had.
>Distilled from a 100% rye mash bill using a carefully considered combination of 91% raw Texas Elbon rye and specialty German Cara rye, chocolate and roasted rye, the ingredients are all milled, mashed, fermented, distilled and matured on-site in Waco. Upon its release in 2023, this unique rye whisky was the only whisky on the market with a 100% rye mash bill made in 100% copper pot stills.
An absolute flavor bomb that doesn't taste like any other rye whiskey. It doesn't taste like any other whiskey enough for me to accurately describe what it tastes like, if that makes sense. Whoa.

>>21475496
Bushmills glencairn is some sorta sacrilege to begin with.

if i've only ever enjoyed bourbon, what should i try to expand my tastes? my current bottle is 'makers mark'. i've tried scotches, but not in a while and i think my tastes have somewhat matured since then; where do i start?

>>21478684
lalo or tequila ocho or el tesoro

>>21478684
Unironically, I got into scotch through Johnnie walker Green label.

>>21478684
Johnnie Walker Green Label is a bad whisky and you should avoid it. >>21478833 is a paid shill who has been posting here for years.
OP's advice is sound:
>a peated single malt Scotch, an unpeated sherry cask-aged single malt Scotch, and an unpeated bourbon cask-aged single malt Scotch
For peated single malt, Port Charlotte 10 is a good starting point. It says heavily peated but it really isn't. It has a medium level of peat and is quite balanced.
For unpeated sherry-cask aged, Glendronach 12 is the obvious starting point.
For unpeated bourbon cask-aged, Glencadam 12 is a great, relatively affordable starting point.

>>21478929
Lmao, you seriously should consider seeing a doctor about your delusions.

No one on this entire board is a paid shill for a fucking whiskey company, stop being a retard you make yourself look mentally ill everytime you sperg out at the mere MENTION of a Diageo-owned brand.

>largest whiskey brand in the world
>gets mentioned more frequently on an underwater basket weaving forum than other smaller brands
>THIS MUST BE PAID SHILLING, IT COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE THAT MAJOR POPULAR BRANDS GET TALKED ABOUT MORE OFTEN THAN SMALLER BRANDS

oh look the shill is damage controlling

>>21478976
For me?

It's Talisker 10 year

>>21478976
The fact you don't realize (or pretend not to realize) that they're making fun of you for even entertaining the idea of a paid whiskey shill is the part that always gets me, you GENUINELY (or pretend to) think it's a paid shill lmao.

What is the general consensus on Knob Creek Rye?

>>21479334
They had a 10 year rye last year that was fuckin great value

>>21479342
Shame since my local store only has the 7 year rye like my image

>>21479357
My local store only got 8 bottles and I managed to snag 2 of them.

>>21479334
It's a fine entry to rye for bourbon drinkers as it's readily available, pretty good quality and only has a 50% rye mash bill IIRC.
Would recommend the Old Forester Rye over it as an entry to rye if available, but the Knob should be available in more stores I imagine.

>>21479357
I mean there's nothing wrong with 7-year-olds if you're a Middle Eastern warlord.

>>21477147
>balcones
nice

>>21480450
There are so many American distilleries making really unique shit that's not your everyday bourbon or rye and all of these new, unique whiskies get like zero attention here.
I'm going to start making an effort to try more experimental American whiskies.

Just tried my first Kilchoman. Went with the Machir Bay in order to compare it with Laphroaig 10 and Ardbeg 10. Wow. That's fucking nice. It has a more straightforward campfire smokiness like Ardbeg rather than a vegetal smokiness like Laphroaig, and it has a really fucking silky mouthfeel which is excessively pleasant.
Despite this being quite heavily peated, I think this would make a fantastic introduction to peated whiskies. It doesn't have any weird/off flavors at all to it - just campfire smoke, citrus and vanilla. Comparatively, Ardbeg can have a tarry note which can be offputting to some and Laphroaig has vegetal/medicinal qualities which can be offputting to some. This just straight up tastes traditionally good as long as you like smoke.
Personally, I'd say Machir Bay = Ardbeg 10 > Laphroaig 10 (and I love me some 'frog)
Looks like my next order will include the Sanaig so I can compare it to Lagavulin 16 and Ardbeg Uigeadail.

EW BiB>Basic Bitch Blanton's>Eagle Rare>Buffy Trace>>Russell 10>>>>Any Bourbon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Any Scotch>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Any Irish Whiskey

Get a bottle of regular jameson and drink some neat, take small sips, note the flavors, If you dont like jameson you probably wont like other whiskeys. Bulliet is good, any bourbon or whiskey rye as long as it is made well will be good.
Scotch, and other long aged whiskeys taste and smell like rubber so dont base your opinion of whiskey on scotch, some whiskeys are mixed with scotch so you may get nikka whiskey from the bottle thinking it is japanese whiskey but it is mixed with scotch.

>>21481418
>if you don't like [nearly flavorless whiskey] you probably won't like other whiskeys
No.

>>21481425
>Jameson is nearly flavorless
stop smoking

>>21481418
>If you dont like jameson you probably wont like other whiskeys
I like most whiskys and hate jameson

>>21481432
I cant help everyone

>>21481436
Actually, you can't help most people if your advice is
>if you don't like [nearly flavorless whiskey] you probably won't like other whiskeys
because that advice shows that you're a fucking idiot.

>>21481209
Machir Bay is nice

>>21481418
>all aged whiskey are like burnt rubber
you sound like my sister that drinks jack

>>>21481426
No.

someone told me macallan was a good whiskey but i couldn't remember the name exactly, so i went to the liquor store and asked if they had any mclaren. they said they had never heard of mclaren whiskey so i assumed they were a shit liquor store

anyway, is macallan actually good or just an overpriced meme (like all whiskey lol)

my brother got me a bottle of the macallan harmony collection inspired by intense arabica. it's nice :)

>>21481662
wow what a coincidence
i think it's expensive because good casks are harder to come by with the demand of whisky anymore, and they take care in their cask selection

so you can probably get more bang for your buck elsewhere, but their price isn't 100% unwarranted

surprised that store didn't ask if you meant the jack daniels mclaren edition

>>21481773
Most liquor store employees have no idea what they actually sell.

>>21481662
Macallan is the epitome of overpriced meme. That's literally their intentional marketing strategy: overprice it to make it seem like a luxury status symbol item.

I bought a bottle of monkey shoulder for 36 bucks. I don't know shit about alcohol. Did I do good? Thoughts? I sipped a tiny bit and I like the after taste the most but I can't tell what I'm tasting. I don't dislike it though. Numbs my mouth a bit.

>>21482108
And it tastes like rubber.

>>21482606
Eh, it's about the cheapest decent blended scotch
It's not "good" though.

>>21482618
yeah, because they dont respect the customers so they release sulphur bombs and charge 4x the premium of actual craft presented scotch. Macallan hasn't been worth buying since the mid 90's.

>>21482628
I see, well I should start somewhere. And it was pretty cheap so I don't feel like I got robbed or anything. What's like a step higher than this so I know for the future?

>>21482632
If you're only looking for blended scotch and not any other whiskey types, then the next step up would be JW Gold or JW Green.

If you're just trying to find the next step in scotch in general you'll want to start looking at the entry-level single malts; Glenfiddich 12, Glenmorangie 10, Ardbeg 5/10, etc.

If you're fine going into other types of whiskey bourbon is generally a better value in the US, there are some great sippers in the $40-70 range where as (for me at least) i need to go into the $100-150 range for Scotch to get that same level.

>>21482637
Epic, thanks.

>>21482639
>>21482637 is literally a paid Diageo shill who has been posting here for years. Avoid Johnnie Walker whiskies as they are poor values and taste bad.

>>21482802
>paid Diageo shill
> suggests products owned by Louis Vuitton Moët Hennessy, William Grant & Sons, and Diageo
As I've said before, every post you make just makes you look retarded.

>>21482802
I heard green is alright from some other people, but I've never tried any of them so I might as well just to know.

>>21482802
this he has been shilling here since 2017

>>21482825
This is one of my first whiskey posts
November 2023

Won't stop the schzio from calling anyone who posts a Diageo owned product as the same shill despite the different posting styles, computer setups, choice of whiskey, etc.

He has zero'd in on JW in recent years because it's a popular one and so anytime anyone calls it good or posts a JW bottle, he instantly spergs out that they're a paid Diageo shill.

Honestly pretty hilarious he thinks anyone would get paid to shit post on this shitheap of a forum.

Also I buy/post about various whiskey that isn't Diageo owned far more frequently, he just calls me out as a Diageo shill anytime I do post them because he's a schizophrenic retard.

Anyone promoting flagship consumer products is a shill. Not only can you find them at any store, but usually the inventory is so large its hard to avoid them.
Anything more than a single sentence that you enjoy or dislike it is basically spam.

Went out and grabbed a bottle of that new Scapa 16 and while it’s not necessarily my ideal flavor profile it’s perfectly suited for hot weather. Definitely getting the mango that everyone else reviewing it does but it’s also very similar to a 2023 festival edition Glen scotia I had previously, the 11 year old white port finish. Almost a frozen ice pop level of fruitiness

>>21482968
>Anyone promoting flagship consumer products is a shill
What does this even mean?

If someone is getting into whiskey, goes into the store and buys a few popular items from established brands and decides to post postively about that experience, they're somehow a shill?

>>21481375
You sound like a faggot, scotches are good and the Irish literally invented Whiskey.

>>21449741
I was one of those fags that constantly drank their whiskey without ice for "the flavour" and although I still drink most of my whiskey without ice, I admit now that there's bottles out there that taste nicer with ice.

I also like to taste anything new with and without ice. There's those sweet whiskey-based liqueurs out there too which I cant stand alone, but which I do fancy with ice loosening them up.

>>21462220
laphroaig fucks hard

I've never had a peat filtered whisky before so it was a big surprise. Are you familiar with their drinks? Is there something you'd recommend in particular?

>>21483266
Not him.
Laphroaig 10 is probably the best price/performance peated single malt scotch. You really can't go wrong with it if you like peat.
Obvious ways for you to go from here include:
>Ardbeg
>Port Charlotte
>Kilchoman
>Longrow

>>21483331
all good choices
would add kilkerran heavily peated
there are a lot of peated scotches but those are all the good ones
the others are less good

>>21483341
>the others are less good
Yeah, pretty much. Well, there's Octomore, but, you know, price.

>>21483173
I literally said anything more than a single sentence, learn to read.
If I prefer Coke to Pepsi, I can either just say that or I can drone on and on about subtle flavor differences and generally waste everyones time when there is nothing stopping anyone from getting those same products to try for themselves.
So if you're going on and on about JW (or anything else) and the only thing you have to talk about is how you buy it regularly, nobody gives a fuck.

>>21484360
So the post you're referencing (>>21482637) which mentions JW in a single sentence meets your criteria for not shilling.

Just because I replied calling schizo faggots morons/retards for calling me a shill doesn't change that the original post only mentions JW for a brief moment, among various other suggestions that aren't JW.

Glad we cleared that up.

>>21484373
No, my comment was in general, not about that specific post. But if you're also posting pictures of JW and making multiple posts about it, maybe you should post in /jwg/ instead of here.

why are you fags drinking whiskey in summer?
get good tequila bitches

>>21484391
Because I have air conditioning?

>>21484391
Whisky is a year round drink, how you drink your whisky might change with the seasons/weather, but the whisky itself stays the same throughout.

>>21483331
>the best price/performance peated single malt scotch
that would be laphroaig quarter cask

fuck bros my spot just got in that new Bunnahabhain Turas Math($165 after tax) but I just blew the majority of my budget on the new Lore AAAAAAAAAAA
>"its not much better overall than the standard 12 for 3x the price"
they should've done a peated run with the same mix of casks

>>21485057
I dunno I preferred the 10 although I liked the quarter cask, which is oakier and less peaty. I just adore how the 10 smacks you in the face with peat, but it also has a very nice sweet vanilla note to it.
>>21477147
OK so I'm sitting here sipping on my second dram of this trying to wrap my head around it. It's tough, because it doesn't taste remotely like anything, whiskey or otherwise, I have ever tasted. Utterly unique.
At first there's a truly bizarre note of like... fresh, green wood? Really hard to describe. Not unpleasant. Just not a flavor I have ever encountered in any substance before, so it's really throwing me for a loop. This flavor is much less apparent on subsequent sips - it almost disappears. But it's very loud on the first sip. Then you get strong barrel char, which is the first thing you taste on subsequent sips after the first one. Then you get strong rye spice. Then you get dark chocolate/tobacco/roasted notes. The roasted notes from the three types of roasted rye are very loud. This is all in the palate, which evolves from one flavor to another with every sip as you swirl it around your mouth. Finish is Mexican hot chocolate - spicy.
This is intensely flavorful and singularly unique. I find myself drinking it faster than most whiskies in a desperate, futile attempt to wrap my head around it and fully understand it. Terribly interesting.

>>21485253
have you had Texas whiskey previously? they say the heat makes it distinctive.

>>21485345
That shouldn't make it taste any different... it should just age it faster.
I think what I'm tasting is down to the unique rye they use. It's somewhat similar to the grassy/mint/green wood note you get in a lot of rye whiskies... yet different.

>>21485354
Boy...

>>21481375
That's just like, your opinion, man.

any suggestions on Ardbeg that's not the Wee Beastie, 10 or Uigeadail/Corryvrecken? I hear An Oa is light and sweet and I'm not paying over $100 for some gimmick release. Might just go Kilchoman or Ledaig, but I kinda want that tar.

>>21470080
There's going to be a 100-proof Sazerac released this year.

Speaking of rye, got this the other day.
Never really had a rye before, so I don't know how it compares to others but I'm enjoying it. Its 120 proof so I was expecting it to drink much hotter than it did.

>>21488968
why does the label look like it was from a shitty craft beer? what's the distillery?

>>21489046
Barrel King
Theyre a blender/barrel finisher from Bourbon, Missouri, so its all sourced distillate. I used to go by that town when I went on float trips in the Meramec River, so I visited their tasting room and everything I tried I ended up liking.
They do about 2 blends a month, so that label is just for that blend....the other side of the bottle has their normal label.

>>21484393
>>21484418
whiskey sucks even with great ac in the summer. its too hot. drink tequila!! even barrel aged tequilas

>>21489272
>its too hot
This nigga be heating his whiskey.

>>21489272
shut up tequila shill

>>21489272
sorry bro im drinking pisco

better stock up on that Knappogue Castle before its get a lame and gay rebranding