Thread 21469268

ITT: foods that do not need to be refrigerated but for some reason people still do (usually Americans).

>>21469268 (OP)
bread

>>21469268 (OP)
American eggs need to be refrigerated because they were washed and don't have the natural protective coating. Jam and ketchup will just maintain their flavor better if kept refrigerated even if they won't spoil. Cut pineapple needs to be refrigerated. I don't think I've seen anyone refrigerating whole pineapple.

>>21469268 (OP)
>2011+14
>Not refrigerating your pineapple
ISHYGDDT

refrigerating jam and ketchup *after they've been opened* is to slow down bacterial growth and the development of mold, you ninny

>>21469268 (OP)
>>21469285
Literally everything besides certain fruits will maintain their flavor better in a refrigerated environment.

>>21469291
Oooh is that why every restaurant in the world leaves their opened ketchup bottles out on the table?

>>21469268 (OP)
Fruits tastes better chilled.

>>21469293
fast turn over and they dont care if you get sick because how are you going to trace it back to a singular ketchup bottle that gets refilled more than once a week

>>21469296
its vinegar and sugar dude, both which dont grow bacteria...you think a piece of bread grows mold slower in the fridge?

>>21469293
A bottle of ketchup lasts maybe 2 days in a restaurant

>>21469301
>both which dont grow bacteria
ive had unopened unpopped jars of jam grow mold/bacteria, hell it grows in paint thinner
>you think a piece of bread grows mold slower in the fridge?
yes

>>21469307
>ive had unopened unpopped jars of jam grow mold/bacteria
then they weren't processed properly or the seal was damaged. properly canned food just won't grow anything when done correctly.

>>21469311
but they were left outside the fridge and sugar doesn't grow mold

I don't refrigerate my butter because I go through like a block a day

Pretty much any mass produced condiment. That shit is all so processed to hell you can hardly even call it food - in fact many brands are legally NOT allowed to be called food. Ketchup, mustard, vinegar, Worcestershire sauce, soy sauce. They are all so packed with preservatives and have so little actual "food" that even after being opened you can keep them unrefrigeratred for months.

>>21469307
So do you keep your bulk vinegar in your fridge? Any condiment has enough vinegar to be nearly the same

>>21469315
I mean, it doesn't. Honey never really spoils. If your jam wasn't made properly then I would assume it also probably didn't have enough sugar. Or it was contaminated. I dunno. Your jam was fucked up and refrigerating it wouldn't have saved it if it spoiled "unopened".

>>21469318
Other than the corn syrup in ketchup if you want to get in a debate about that, everything you mentioned doesn't have preservatives even with cheap store brands and it's just food. Anything with a lot of vinegar/salt/sugar will resist spoilage and all of those are full of it.

>>21469319
honey is 16-18% water, jam is 35% water. as soon as its opened its contaminated

I learned recently Americans refrigerate all their cheese all the time regardless of hardness/moisture. An American mentioned getting some parmigiano out of his fridge ???
Honestly I think some people just use the fridge as an extra storage shelf where food is supposed to go, regardless if the item actually "needs" to be refrigerated.

>>21469323
I bought honey recently that was closer to 30% water. 70% sugar is still pretty high and I don't think anything will grow in it. Jam is also usually a lot more acidic which prevents growth. Half the reason of making jam was to preserve fruit. I'm not saying don't refrigerate it, but it's not going to spoil that quickly if at all.

ketchup is already a pretty shit condiment and the only way to slightly improve it is to cool it

>>21469293
They stopped doing that a while ago kiddo

>>21469268 (OP)
>implying pineapple is food
>>21469301
>you think a piece of bread grows mold slower in the fridge?
look at you not understanding thermodynamics.

>>21469324
Well, I like to keep all my cheeses in one spot, so yes the parm is in the fridge. Just easier organization wise. Especially with children in the house; easier to tell them "cheese goes in the fridge" when they help unload groceries than having to get super specific.

>>21469268 (OP)
once you open the bottle it needs to stay cold dumbass

>>21469268 (OP)
jam and ketchup are better chilled, you want the contrast of the hot fries or tendies dipped into the cold ketchup

if salami was invented thousands of years ago as a way to preserve meat without refrigeration why does the salami I buy at the store say to refrigerate after opening on the label?

Nilbog milk

brown zoomer brains: hmmm the ketchup needs to be refrigerated cause its sweet like cake but the hot sauce is fine because its spicy

>>21469291
Ah yes the mold that I've found in my ketchup and jam sometime in my life... Why can't I remember this ever happening?

>>21469559
Because the mold took your brain over and is now controlling you

>>21469529
Because the salami for preservation usually had more salt and was drier. The word botulism comes from a Latin word for sausage because it was causing food poisoning.

>>21469268 (OP)
Ketchup tastes nicer cold

>>21469307
It grows in actual paint as well, ridiculously well in fact, you wouldn't think of inorganic pigments emulsified in a plasticiser being the optimal environment for some weird fungus (but I suppose it makes sense, anything powdered and so well dispersed is going to have an enormous surface area). Even with absolutely lethal biocides, some freak fungus/colonies would get through when I worked as a polymer formulation technician for a paint company

>>21469323
A lot of jams are also hygroscopic, whereas even "open" honey seems to be in a stable state of being relatively saturated with as much water as it will "easily" take on from the environment (I'd imagine it might eventually become more "watery" given enough time)

Heinz specifically gets that godawful metallic tang when it's not refrigerated, fuck that

I refrigerate jam because I mostly buy/make low sugar jam. I don't like it too sweet. It has grown mold in the past.

>>21469437
no, no they didnt

Hell I keep peanut butter in my fridge. Once you pop the seal on a jar the oil starts going rancid after just a few days. If you keep it chilled it will always taste just as good as a freshly opened jar.

>>21469711
i literally keep peanut butter in the cellar for months and it doesnt go moldy
i went off jam because i was tired of everytime i opened a jar of jam it was moldy (and didnt like it in the first place enough to keep eating it)
i do get tired of peanut butter though. is there anything else to eat on toast besides jam/peanut butter/nutella?

>>21470365
>is there anything else to eat on toast besides jam/peanut butter/nutella?
honey, cinnamon sugar, apple butter

>>21469268 (OP)
I guess it's one thing if you have your own chickens laying eggs, but I'm not about to go to the market where the eggs are cold and have been shipped cold and kept cold since being washed, and then fucking leave them out all week in the summertime. You're a fucking contrarian cunt and you don't leave your eggs out for days either. Quit frontin'.

>>21469316
Butter is fine. You can leave it out for a week with no issues if it's covered. The have those butter dishes with an opaque lid.

>>21469554
Do you know why you add sugar to yeast when making bread but you don't add the salt at that time? Ketchup will eventually grow fuzz if left out. I know you use so much that you're in no danger of that happening, but oxygen + sugar + moisture + temperature danger zone = an environment to grow mold.

Hot sauce has nothing that can live in it. Salt and vinegar and burning spices are not a hospitable home for growth. But given enough time something could happen. Years probably though. Once you open most condiments they just keep better and longer under refrigeration.

>>21469611
Interesting.

>>21470365
Butter. Cheese. Cream cheese.

>>21470467
>oxygen + sugar + moisture + temperature danger zone = an environment to grow mold.
honey has all of those and doesn't grow mold

>>21469285
The UK banned washing chicken egg laying juice off their eggs as a means to ban US imports of eggs. Leaving about 45% of tested eggs in the UK contaminated requiring hand washing after touching.
Eggs and milk should be kept cool in a fridge.

>>21469290
>Costanza shiggy diggy posting was 14 years ago
I am old

I keep my bread in the fridge, it lasts longer.

>>21469268 (OP)
Fuck off cunt, cold jam on hot toast is delicious.

>>21469293
Its cause we don't care cunt. I shouldn't be washing the meat to get rid of the """"cryovac"""" smell that we sell to the customers but I do.

>>21469534
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOD

>>21469268 (OP)
ketchup makes sense for my family because we don't consume it soon enough but you can definitely leave it out if you go through it often

everything that contains water can grow mold
fruit preservatives needs to be in the cold, depends on type possibly and what preservatives are used how fast it happens but it can grow mold
lemon juice bottles needs to be in the cold
eggs need to be in the cold if in usa but not in eu
bread needs to be in the cold, frozen is even better

I guess the modern ketchup is engineered heavily to withstand mold with vinegar and other growth retardants so its mostly fine at room temp if you dont store it for extended period. It's like the only thing with eggs that stay at room temp usually for me.

Tomatoes are sometimes kept in room temp for flavor, it doesnt help preserving their edibility tho.
Potatoes dont like really cold fridge temps but they start growing roots at room temp so its annoying.

Wait so eggs from Europe just have old chicken placenta left at room temp on them? That's actually disgusting. Do you wash them at home before using or do you crack that shit straight into the pan?

I keep unopened canned food and potato chips in the fridge. I don’t know why but I not doing it feels weird and dirty now.

>>21470621
But then I'm less likely to use it because I don't see it and then it goes bad.

>>21470474
It doesn't have a lot of moisture in it and it probably has something else in it to prohibit mold. It crystalizes. The point is that KETCHUP will eventually mold, and will mold more quickly if unrefrigerated after opened. Especially when compared with hot sauce.

For me it's the flavor, not a burger either. I fucking hate warm ketchup, only ever eat it at home since it's refrigerated, something about the contrast between warm meat/fries or whatever and cold ketchup makes it for me, it's like drinking warm beer in the hot summer if I eat warm ketchup. Mustard and sauces and stuff I don't care. Most fruit I prefer cold too, especially watermelon, inedible warm, think it depends how watery a fruit is for me for how much I prefer it cold. The weird thing is I don't care if drinks are refrigerated at all except for carbonated/fizzy ones.

>>21470817
I doubt the ketchup in your house lasts long enough to get mould, fatty.

>>21470832
Last week I threw out a jar of mayonnaise that's been in my fridge at least 6 months, still about a 1/3rd left I just didn't want to risk it at that point. Not all of us slather chemical slop over our other slop every meal.

>>21469276
psychotic

>>21469483
...and irons say "do not iron clothes while wearing them" and everything causes cancer in California, welcome to the litigious USA.

>>21469559
Because you're a fat ass whole eats the whole thing in a day.

>>21470670
We don't eat the eggshell dingus

Food autists are retarded. A lot of foods don't ''need'' to be refrigerated, but refrigerating them extends their shelf life a lot.
If you have space in the fridge then you should refrigerate your food.

Autistic fags have this weird thing where they will learn a ''fun fact'' and they obsess over it and run it into the ground. Like when they found out that technically the nose is more red than the rest of your face, so they proceeded to invent the tumblr nose and draw all characters with a bright red nose because it's ''accurate.'' Just like that, they take something simple like ''eggs are pretty shelf stable'' and turn that into ''you can never under any circumstance refrigerate eggs because LE SCIENCE XD.''
You are not smart. You have autism.

>>21470757
Do you not eat most of the other food in your fridge out of forgetfulness, too?

>>21469316
>a block a day
Holy hamhocks you're a fat bitch

>>21470832
>mould

What do you think you're doing?

I don't eat ketchup. I'm an adult. Do you think people who are smarter than you are automatically fat?

>>21471503
It's not so much forgetfullness as me thinking to eat or make something else at a higher frequency because I see it first. I will put it in the fridge sometimes like you, but it depends on the weather or season. It doesn't stay there for me.

>>21471573
>animu
Holy hamhocks you’re a fucking faggot.

>>21471578
I'm similar. I will think "I better get to that" when I see something on the counter. Once something goes in the fridge it no longer has the same sense of urgency. Once something is in the freezer I will only eat it if I specifically am craving that or there's nothing left.

>>21471579
Anime website, mr tummy.

>>21470365
ham and cheese you fat fuck

>>21471603
Nop

>>21469316
>I go through like a block a day
Do you mean a stick? I'll keep it in the fridge if it's a hot day and take it out before I need it. I keep it in a glass container though when it's out.
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