Thread 21513094

I want to into nicotine pouches but I'm not sure I'm doing it right. I bought a tin of 3mg smooth zyns and stuffed it in my lip but it makes a ton of saliva and hurts to swallow. I also only left it in my lip for 15 minutes and got jittery and a headache. Who actually likes this stuff and why?

>>21513094 (OP)
>swallowing chew

>>21513094 (OP)
Buy Red Man plug.

>>21513097
I'm swallowing the spit moron not the pouch itself

>>21513094 (OP)
is 3mg the lowest strength? i had snus which has about 2mg of nicotine available and releases slower than nicotine pouches and it's still potent at first. you can either build up a tolerance which isn't really that great to do or find a lower strength one. or just take it out after a few minutes. or not use them at all, they're not good for your teeth and gums anyway.

>>21513111
Bait.

>>21513104
>hurts to swallow
>got jittery and a headache
>3 mg
sorry to break the bad news but you're a faggot. too much of a faggot even for zyn, which is the appletini of dip. if you really want nicotine buy some virginia slims and you might as well pick up some poppers while you're down there.

>>21513113
bait ur ass

>>21513094 (OP)
Have you tried anal pouches? They'd be perfect for addicted fags like you

>>21513094 (OP)
Have a drink with you. Eventually you get used to it.

>>21513094 (OP)
Pounches are for faggots.
Get a ton of grizzly and carry a spit bottle

>>21513094 (OP)
Why is drug discussion on-topic again? Oh, because ethanol and caffeine are considered part of cuisine and we're really not far off from discussing "edibles" and Galaxy Gas.

>>21513094 (OP)
Don't bother. Nicotine is the worst drug ever. The only thing it's good for is alleviating the withdrawal symptoms it causes. It forms addiction quickly, and breaking it is a pain in the ass, though at least it isn't health threatening, which is just about the only good thing I can say about it.

>>21513094 (OP)
at least the act of smoking and even vaping are enjoyable in and of themselves, anyone who is not addicted and just starts using pouches for the fuck of it is next level stupid. even caffeine is way more useful as a drug and not nearly as addictive

>>21513122
I don’t want scruffy getting addicted

>>21513187
This. I'm a non-smoker who fell for the puch meme, I started taking them occasionally in the week then I started taking them more frequently and now I'm addicted to nicotine. I'm quitting now and wish I never bothered. I thought if I took them infrequently enough I'd be fine but addiction sneaks up on you like that

>>21513415
smoking isn't really enjoyable. most people wouldn't do it if it didn't give the fastest nicotine hit.

Not food
Not cooking

>>21513187
>at least it isn't health threatening
Nicotine blocks the production of proteins that repair heart muscle. For a start. Gum and mouth cancers must just be coincidental.

>>21513094 (OP)
>want to into

KYS

>>21513094 (OP)
Just smoke cigarettes like a normal man instead of putting this queer shit in your mouth.

>>21513515
smoking is way less unhealthy than eating most common foods now. the majority of food you can buy premade has more carcinogens in it than tobacco products.

>>21513859
>smoking is way less unhealthy than eating most common foods now.
lol no. there are a ton of unhealthy foods but if you don't eat too much you can still stay somewhat healthy. no amount of smoke inhalation is good for you.

>>21513859
thank you tobacco ceo

>>21513813
Cant wait for the remake of the good bad and the ugly where tuco is following a trail of still wet zyn pouches

>>21513094 (OP)
I like it because I hate my job

>>21513111
The snus I get is like 8 mg. General

>>21513094 (OP)
For snus/nic pouches you put them in your top lip. You get the same nicotine absorption while minimizing the amount of contaminated spit

>>21513094 (OP)
You probably bought the highest-strength adult diaper you could get, try a lower strength instead.

>>21513505
It makes you look cool though, tobacco pouches don't even do that.

>>21513935
yeah it has 8mg total but only about 2mg of it is actually available to be absorbed. the sodium carbonate in snus is what frees up the nicotine to let your body actually absorb it otherwise the tobacco wouldn't do much no matter how much nicotine it had.

>>21514585
smoking makes you smell bad

>>21514612
Yes.

Why the fuck would anyone WANT to get into dip
It's disgusting shit for people that can't smoke because of where they are

>>21513094 (OP)
i only use them because there's nothing better out there. i'll use 2 6mg pouches when i'm drinking and it will be
>10 minutes of nothing
>~3 minutes of buzz
>time to throw em out
>need to wait ~30 minutes to do them again because i'd have to do 3 pouches to get the same effect

>>21514637
it's not dip dumbass. it's literally just paper soaked with nicotine juices. much "healthier" than dip

>>21514654
>I-it's not dip!
Ok
Why the fuck would you want "paper soaked in nicotine juices"

>>21514679
>>21514637
Some people are just stupid sheep
Reminds me of an acquaintance in high school that started smoking cloves to "work up" to cigarettes

>>21514679
look kid no one cares if you don't do any drugs and are still a virgin saving yourself for another based trad virgin. stay out of the threads where people want to discuss them and you can go back to /r9k/ where we won't bother you

>>21514701
I smoke weed erry day
I ask again
Why the fuck would you want to get into chew/snuff/dip
It's disgusting garbage explicitly made for people addicted to cigarettes that can't smoke

>>21514719
>>21514701
It's like trying to "get into" methadone

>>21514723
Kek, perfect analogy. Personally I am trying to get into antabus.

>>21514719
well why didn't you just say you fried your brain from weed and had your IQ drop 15 points into the double digits? now i understand why you're asking inane questions and then samefagging yourself

>>21513813
>needs to constantly suck on a cylindrical object
>calling others queer
lmao

>>21514746
Not an answer
Do you think it will make you look cool?
I genuinely want to know

>>21514779
I don't care if it makes me look cool, I like the head rush from time to time and I don't want to deal with the side effects of using tobacco

>>21514803
>i don't want to deal with the side effects of using tobacco
>uses tobacco

>>21514815
You know, smoking, chewing, cramming, you know, using, right?

>>21514815
Retard zyn snus and other related products don't contain any tobacco, you IDIOT. You BUFFOON. You IMBECILE. Where's your mom? I'm going to rape her you FOOL

>>21514829
>Snus is a moist tobacco product that originates from Sweden. It is made from ground tobacco leaves, salt, and an alkalizer, such as sodium carbonate. The mixture may also include flavorings. Snus is typically sold in pouches that are placed under the upper lip for nicotine absorption.

>>21514835
Alright I was wrong on snus but zyn contains no tobacco, there are tobacco-free nicotine products

>>21514829
Anon……

>>21514845
you're a turbo tard on tard steroids

>>21514849
I made an oopsie and owned up to it but I'm still correct in that there are tobacco-free nicotine products like zyn, whereas you're a marijuana-fried husk of a human who hasn't had an original thought in 12 years and can't possibly comprehend that you could ever be wrong and just say oopsie too

>>21514857
I wasn't wrong, faggot. Where's YOUR mom? I'm gonna rape her as restitution for your stupidity

>>21514803
>I like the head rush
My brother in christ drink a fucking monster

Nasal snuff is a much superior way of consuming nicotine. Nic pouches is the peasant way of consuming, nasal snuff the aristocratic way.

>>21514918
I just cant into energy drinks

>>21514591
I am not sure, but I don't think that's how it works

>>21514935
Unfortunately it's hard to find, even at cigar shops and tobacco shops. My shop carried one brand I can't recall, and then they just stopped carrying it one day, which was a bummer because it honestly helped me cold turkey my coke habit, but by that point I just went back to dipping and didn't go want to go back to coke.

>>21514918
>Not packing a fat dip and also slamming a white monster
Soft hands typed this post

I smoked cigarettes for about a decade before realizing how to inhale the smoke.

Why can't zoomers handle nicotine? They all act like zyns are the hardest thing on the planet. I use them to try to quit dipping, and always go back to dipping because they're just so weak, no burn, no real nicotine hit, I go through a can in a day whereas I can pop in a dip and that'll get me through to my lunch break. Pop another dip after I eat, and that gets me through the rest of my shift and the drive home. You little pussies should just do the smart thing and not get hooked on nicotine in the first place, you can't even handle it. Would probably have an instant heart attack if you smoked a cigar.
Out of all of the things I've gotten hooked on, I've never been able to drop tobacco and I wish I could because my teeth hurt, my stomach hurts all the time, I have acid reflux, I throw up once a day at least. It's literally killing me and I can't stop, why the fuck would you want to wind up like this, why would you want to be a slave to something for the rest of your life?

>>21515098
They inhale more nicotine than you chew with their vapes brother

>>21515102
Nah the zoomer apprentices also all act like vapes are hardcore. It's mostly old timers who already have emphysema, who finally decided to try to quit smoking.

>>21515085
You can find it relatively easy online anon, specially if you're in UK or South America.

>>21515078
i am sure that is how it works

>>21515176
I'm in America

>>21515230
>>21515176
There's also a ban in my state against buying tobacco online so can't do it anyway

>>21515233
Damn, that sounds fucked. Didn't know there was already such level of commie faggotry going on in some US states.

>>21515186
Debatable

>>21515098
This is great news. I thought all that shit was because of the drinking. I quit smoking this week and am thrilled to find out it'll all go away.

>>21515090
Put your pinky up thats called cigar smoking. I did that the majority of the time. I hate how nicotine makes me pee like crazy.

>>21515098
I never liked pure nicotine products as much. Real tobacco apparently has a bunch of other things that give a different feeling which might be why you struggle with that more. When I stopped using snus I didn't have as much trouble tapering off. E.g. waiting a little longer before using more each day or using slightly smaller amounts each time.

Pure nicotine pouches and even snus don't cause the same issues that dip does though. Dip is known to be a lot harsher on everything because of the way it's processed, it's usually fermented and then cured over an open fire both of which make it extremely harsh on your mouth and gut. Snus is real tobacco and still a lot gentler on your system if you can't stop, at least with the better Swedish stuff. IDK about the quality of American snus.

>>21516590
Most american snus is a misnomer its just nicotine salt which aint all that great with your gums and they add maltodextrin to clump it up just right which is horrible for your gut biome and teeth.

>>21516596
Yeah there are issues with the label snus in the USA but there is real tobacco "snus" being made in the USA. I'm just not sure if it's processed similarly to Swedish snus where it's only steamed which is what makes it less harsh, or if it's still being fermented and fire-cured like smoking tobacco in the USA. Nicotine can cause dental issues but it's still less harmful than dip. I heard about the maltodextrin thing before which is weird and seems unnecessary.

>>21513094 (OP)
>Who actually likes this stuff and why?
addicts who don't want to smoke anymore but can't stop.
and dumb kids

>>21516374
It is not debatable.

https://www.swedishmatch.com/Snus-and-health/Research-on-snus/Nicotine-uptake/
>Only 10-20 % of the nicotine present in a pinch of snus is absorbed via the mucous membrane and reaches the systemic circulation. This means that only 1-2 mg of nicotine is absorbed into the blood from a one gram pinch containing ca 10 mg of nicotine.

>>21513094 (OP)
>I want to into nicotine pouches
Literally why? It's not even cool. I remember there were nicotine pads that you could get to stick on your skin to alleviate the addiction, do people not do that anymore?

>>21513094 (OP)
>be newbie
>swallow the saliva you're supposed to spit out
Retard.
>>21515098
Non-tobacco nic doesn't have those issues.

>>21517300
Doubt it

>>21519288
It is undoubtable.

>>21518580
Nicotine pouches and snus are supposed to be spitless. Only dip/chew you have to spit.

The effects and dosage of the nicotine are different with oral pouches. If you fuss with it, you salivate more and absorb more nicotine and are more likely to feel sick.