Thread 21537743

When something is very spicy it necessarily implies the fundamentals of the ingredients are poor, and is done to give a false impression of something or pretend to be something it's not. No one would ever do this to expensive, valuable, or rare ingredients, in any culture because they all know.

>>21537743 (OP)
spices, and sauce for that matter, are enhancers
if they are put on shit food, they make the food taste better
if they are put on quality food, that food becomes even better
its just that simple
>NO, my grade A+++ ribeye steak can ONLY have a dash of salt and a single granule of pepper because I can't taste the meat with anything more than that!
that's a you problem

>>21537743 (OP)
Why do you want to make the world all the same and boring?
Some countries have spicy foods.
Others don't.

Why is this an issue to you? nobody is forcing you to eat spicy food.

>>21537773
This >>21537777 goes for you as well.

>>21537743 (OP)
>if they are put on quality food, that food becomes even better
Why? I don't see how masking the flavour enhances anything. Quality ingredients shine without spices, you should be balancing flavours with the vegetables and such. Spices should be in little shakers on the table for the individual to make the choice to ruin their food.

Heavy spices only help hide rancid meat and rotting vegetables.

>>21537743 (OP)
>No one would ever do this to expensive, valuable, or rare ingredients, in any culture because they all know.
Korean food is spicy and very high quality.

Sorry but the White man loves spices. That's been established for millennia. I'm guessing 3rd worlders eschew spices because they really do use them to mask rotting meat. Luckily the White man conquered and perfected them like so much else.
>>21537782
>Spices should be in little shakers on the table
You actually don't know how to cook.

>>21537777
Because one side will dominate and take over all the other cultures. I don't want to live in a spicy shithole world where I can't find high quality food when I travel or exist.

>>21537797
Looks terrible

>>21537773
Spices make the food taste different, and generally better if you're not retarded, but fundamentally different if you are going for something beyond salt/pepper/cayenne.
Thing is, some foods or specific components of dishes stand so well on their own that spicing them strongly and significantly altering their flavor profile does them a disservice. Yes 100% in the case of a very high-quality steak. It's better to serve sides that compliment the food or cleanse the palate to experience the original flavor again. If you want to add something to a really nice steak, put some onions and mushrooms on top that have been pan-seared, or make a sauce out of the deglazed fond, or serve it on top of a bed of mash or polenta to catch the steak juice.

>>21537797
>high quality
I can get this for $4 from the local China shop

>>21537843
But will the beef be Grade A4 fagyu?

>>21537843
That's high quality considering the average american diet

>>21537743 (OP)
Why I season my hand and not season the food

>>21537861
We're talking about spicy, low class, unintelligent shitholes, not America.

>>21537861
Imagine being so cucked as a cuisine that you ape american processed cheese of all things, lmao

>>21537846
Korean bbq doesn't use wagyu you Grade A4 imbecile. They use Hanwoo beef.

why does food taste better when I eat it with my unwashed hands

>>21537873
I agree with that. They have a weird hyperfixation on shitty American things like coca cola, McDonald's, Spam, and shitty plastic "cheese". They only use it because it's "American", even though it ruins the dish.

>>21537743 (OP)
Awwwwww. Did mommy made babby eat bell peppers and widdle timmy didn't wike it? Here, have some more wendie tendies, just like widdle timmy wikes. Oh oh, how about some ketchie wetchie of widdle timmy's tendies? No? Allright, you can dunk it in milk, just as you like it.

>>21537782
There are some real tastelets in this thread. The whole can be greater than the sum of its parts. That’s the underlying principle of most recipes, and it’s true whether you use good quality ingredients or low quality ingredients.

>>21538747
>spicy food advocate
Don't you have a fire to dance around or letters begging USA for charity money to write

>>21537743 (OP)
this is a mentality that didn't exist when spices were rare and expensive. when only rich people had spices or sugar, they seasoned their food in quantities that would be considered near poisonous today.

the attitude only developed when spices became available to common people. rich people suddenly decided that they were too cool for spices and that using flavor is gauche.

if you care one way or the other then you're just a pawn in silly games that are above your paygrade.

>>21538747
HOLY BASED!!!!

>>21540041
>rich people are bad
Grow up

>>21540045
Thirdie supporting each other's dumb views is why thier countries are shitholes

>>21540047
Rich people are in fact bad, in pretty much every sense of the word.

>>21537743 (OP)
false impression? Your generalizations are what are false.
And, your picture has to do with abhorrent table manners and class, not spices, but so is using reused utensils that didn't go through a bleach final rinse, (in the third world), ick viruses.

We live in the jet age. Spices have been abundant and not rare at all for nearly a century. Get off your rich-people soapbox and enjoy eating whatever you desire.
Rarities today are probably only overfished seafood. I remember the last time I flew back from Alaska, it was mid-July, and the jetway must have had 15 stacked ice chests ready to go in the belly of the plane: smoked salmon, and frozen halibut so valuable, the savings that incurred in the costs of the flight, charter fishing it yourself, smoking & packing, and having literal tons of it to bring home paid for the trip, likely. Good luck getting fresh king crab, gulf oysters, redfish, or whatever you want one day soon. I just say bluefin tuna season closed after only ONE DAY this past year. Florida lobster gets only 2 weeks. Stone Crabs used to lose one claw and went back to regenerate the claw, and now they are allowed to take both claws. Hrm.

>>21537743 (OP)
This is the cooking board, you are not gonna find a receptive audience for this bullshit here. If you don't like to use any spices you are a cooklet no matter where you come from. (My hatred for hot sauce soiboys not withstanding)

Try >>>/pol/

>>21540041
>when only rich people had spices or sugar, they seasoned their food in quantities that would be considered near poisonous today.
> when spices became available to common people. rich people suddenly decided that they were too cool for spices
Both poor and rich people eat spices though. Poors use them to enhance their less interesting ingredients, and rich people eat higher quality food that uses spices much more measuredly. For example, a poor will use 1/2 cup of taco seasoning on his ground beef or drown his grocery store rotisserie chicken with hot sauce. Yet a rich person will have the server grind a few specs of black pepper (a spice Europeans got from Asia) on his steak or eat food with some expensive meme spice to appear worldly.

Meanwhile, all the stereotypical bland foods people think of come from the middle class. Middle class people see spices as something for poor people or a needless frivolity for the rich. And of course this conversation starts and ends with America. Every class of people everywhere else use spices if they can get them, except maybe in Japan.

>>21537743 (OP)
please for the love of god let me escape /pol/ on this board, I don't need to see this shit on the cooking board, there's so little I ask

>>21540070
>>21540186
>ugly drawings
Stfu weirdo

>>21538518
Its because SK went from rags to riches in the span of decades recently, so the old timers all know starvation times (the last GD amerimutts are dead and dying) and have fond memories of GI provided rations. Hence the love of spam and other American products.

And to be fair - Spam is great when used correctly, and american cheese is not plastic - please unwrap the slices before jamming them in your pie hole.

it's honestly kind of incredible that we have come to a point where timmy bubba hunter is so ass blasted about the spice thing they are willing to unironically argue that spices are bad. literally sour grapes holy shit.

>>21537773
This. Some cunt last week was telling me that the caramelized onions and garlic butter on my steak was "a sign of low quality".
Just some envious 3rd worlder, I know, but it was posited as if it were really an actual opinion. I love good beef but I wasn't masking anything. Enhancing.

>>21537823
No they won't. You're a paranoid retard.

>>21540070
Eat shit. I agree with you but reject your pedo pics.

>>21537837
>mash

Be specific. Faggot.

>>21543414
>trump fans hate reddit
>the website they all congregated on
Uh-huh. Keep trying to fit in here, tourist--I'm sure you'll get the hang of it some day.

>>21540186
Kek