Thread 21539157

Which is the supreme beef sandwich? Cheesesteak, Italian Beef, or French Dip?

>>21539157 (OP)
You unironically already list3d them in the proper order.

>>21539157 (OP)
>supreme beef sandwich
fresh kaiser roll or submarine roll
roast beef, cold, medium-thick sliced
horseradish+mayo mix topping
sliced pickled beets

>>21539157 (OP)
F R E N C H . D I P .
>>21539169
French dip's better

>>21539157 (OP)
Italian beef. Not even a competition

>>21539157 (OP)
What are the details of each?

>>21539165
>unironically
Oh fuck off. Grow your vocabulary, you midwit

>>21539157 (OP)
The American All-Beef Hot Dog reigns supreme!

>>21539930
zoomers call them glizzy

>>21539157 (OP)
French dip is just a worse Italian beef, so it's out. The question then comes down to grilled beef vs slow cooked beef, which is simply a matter of personal preference.

>>21540542
It's not when the grilled beef is dog shit and the slow cooked is actually decent

>>21540549
I've had cheesesteaks made with good meat and Italian beefs made with shitty meat, and vice versa. What you've said is irrelevant.

>>21540542
Italian beef is just a bastardized French Dip

>>21540553
No it's not. The vast majority of cheese steaks use garbage meat. The vast majority of Italian beefs use at least mediocre quality meat.

>>21540557
They were developed independently of each other around the same time in completely different parts of the country. The meat and broth and bread are all better on an Italian beef, and the addition of peppers is an objective improvement.

>>21539157 (OP)
this with cheddar melted on buttered toast

>>21540567
>The meat
Should all be eye of round
>broth and bread are all better on an Italian beef
Depends who's making it
>and the addition of peppers is an objective improvement
Can literally just have peppers on the side ala >>21539171

>>21540573
Assuming the exact same cuts of meat are used, the way Italian beef is seasoned will still result in a better tasting sandwich and broth.

The way I see it, French Dips can be almost a mixture of a Philly Cheese and an Eyetalian beef
Roast beef, swiss/provolone, horseraadish, actually jus made from mirepoix + bouquet garni, add peppers
Only thing that makes the Italian beef distinct is the spice, and you can always make a spicy cheesesteak or French Dip

>>21540573
And eye of round is better when it's slow cooked. Objectively

>>21540576
>more flavor != better tasting necessarily

>>21540580
If you add giardiniera to a french dip, it's basically an Italian beef.

>>21540582
They'll both be slow cooked, the French Dip is just roasted while the Italian Beef should be braised. Braised meat is usually better than roasted, but roast beed holds together better in a sandwich than braised meat

>>21540584
No horseradish, mayo, or cheese in an Eyetalian Beef THOUGH

>>21540589
Oh sorry I got confused and thought you were comparing the philly to the French dip. Italian beef and French dip are very similar but the Italian beef is better imo. giardiniera works insanely well with the meat.

>>21540594
mayonnaise and horseradish are not standard on a French dip, and ordering an Italian beef with or without cheese is the same as ordering a burger with or without cheese.

breadead steak sandwich

>>21539157 (OP)
>a roast beef sandwich without horseradish