Thread 21544665

Boomer Tuscan kitchens were comfy and based, and eating in millennial spaces is depressing as hell.

>>21544665 (OP)
I get you on a conceptual level, but that .webm, most of the minimalist stuff does a better job at being minimalist, there's a lot of crap in the first half despite the expenditure

>lets make everything flat white and boring gray, it'll serve as a palette for your creative spirit!
>fill it with cheap IKEA furniture and half the stuff is made of plastic
Fuck those people who're like, 'You want a wide, open space with lots of bright lights so you feel free,' I want to walk into a kitchen and feel coziness radiating from it. Hard to do when you model your kitchen after an office break room.

>>21544665 (OP)
>Boomer Tuscan kitchens were comfy and based
aka "i grew up with it"
i prefer the latter. the former is garish and ostentatious, which means it's perfect for boomers. also the latter is easier to clean.

>>21544665 (OP)
Former looks like a hoarder house
Sorry, Grandma, we don't give a fuck about these crappy wooden cabinets you kept for 30 years

>>21544703
Not to mention getting a tuscan kitchen is easily $150k and the kitchen itself has to be very big. Millenials and new homeowners cannot afford $150k+ kitchens so they go for the minimalist look because its what is currently in style and what they can afford.

>>21544665 (OP)
This is Frank Lloyd Wright's fault.
But ultimately it's just fashions change and wane.
Ikea's ubiquity has pushed a movement towards Scandinavian Modern styles in general.(if all the furniture is gonna be Ikea or West Elm depending on class then interior designers are gonna lean into that).
Social Conservatives always lean into hating modern and praising the baroque and judging by the "How did our society stoop to such a miserable design" and given that this is very tangentially related to food I'm gonna say this is conservative design bait.

>>21544703
>there's a lot of crap in the first half
yup. like just this still here
>"cucina" placard (no one in the house speaks nor is italian)
>stupid rooster decoration mom got at a flea market
>giant dish that's never been actually used
>fake sunflowers
>fake grass
>old glassware that gets used once every other year
GOD i can't stand boomers

>>21544758
it's just decorations to not make the top of the shelves look bare
not much different from people putting their alcohol bottle collections up there for display

>>21544665 (OP)
under compensation vs over compensation
maybe next gen can get it right

>>21544665 (OP)
unironically sovl to sovless and i say this as someone who likes the flat white modern design

>>21544758
>cucina
I'm with you signs labeling a room. Its odd basic white girl shit that has never made sense to me. like a sign in your laundry room that says "laundry" or a sign in a restaurant that says "EAT". How about the "this house is a home because FAMILY"? Its all super gay mental illness that only serves to affirm women's stupidity.
>stupid rooster
some people like decorations and chiotchskis.
>giant dish
Its likely used once or twice a year for holidays. Where the fuck else are you going to put a $200 plate?
>fake plants
Again, just decorations that I don't like because they're dust farms.
>old glassware
Again, where do you want them to put the fine crystal? In the liquor cabinet? Thats a cabinet in another room. What doyou have against it being in this cabinet?

>>21544665 (OP)
the hard floors look uncomfy but I am jealous of richfag homes that have perfectly clean white carpet. my boomers are retarded hoarders and everything is stained with dirt and animal piss/shit

>>21544779
not living in filth has nothing to do with wealth

>>21544665 (OP)
I like both styles. Hiding this thread now.

>>21544723
>the latter is easier to clean
Even though you probably won’t.

>>21544793
uh yeah it does
what a dumbass reply

Key difference: the boomer kitchen is pretending to be something it isn't. Like the equivalent of an industrial hipster food court. It comes off as inauthentic and tacky (because it is)
I've been in genuinely rustic kitchens, even in the US, and they always have a sort of practical and timeless quality, even when the finishes are cheap or the cabinets are fiberboard, because the owner built them by hand tailored to their needs, instead of having Paco and Luis and Miguel slap together a crude mockery of Western perfection using home shopping network finishes
Even those simplistic millennial kitchens make sense in some contexts, and the upscale ones often do make use of subtle design motifs. I think you're retarded if you place them any higher than these Olive Garden tier suburban abominations.

it doesn't really matter what your kitchen looks like when you just go eat at your desk

millenial gray and its consequences have been a disaster for the human house.

>>21544758
at least thats an actual kitchen. I'm pretty sure this is one of those shitty wine-aunt stores full of crap and cringe.

>>21544804
Absolute fan fiction

>>21544752
>This is Frank Lloyd Wright's fault.
Nah, I think FLW is overrated in a lot of ways but you can't pin this one on him. His interiors were somewhat minimalist but they were all warm custom woodwork, not this sterile grey bullshit.

Chances are most of you have seen kitchens designed by my dad many times, since he designed hundreds of fake ones during his 40+ year career as a movie/TV set designer. This, however, is the one real residential kitchen he ever done, built in 1994 with the help of movie set builders who did all the artificial aging etc, in the house my family owned for most of my life. What does /ck/ think of it?
(The painted island top isn't original btw, the natural finish was trashed and the paint was a band-aid fix before selling.)

The brutalist trend is the combination of high cost and low skill. I find most modern homes extremely grotesque and knowing very little about homebuilding, I'm going to guess they're done for bottom dollar.

>>21544892
my first thought is those curtains will absorb grease

P.S. The Cucina one is a strawman because that one is a $400k middle class older woman one and the others are $2mil high class kitchens.

The millennial garbage are more a true reflection of the wannabe middle class grindset house flipper faggot than the high end chads from the first slideshow.

>>21544892
it's ok, funny enough it looks like a movie set, particularly the wall covering, which is probably the worst looking part
the curtains are fuckin stupid and don't even cover the windows
but overall it looks ok

>>21544892
call me a boomer but i think digital HDR photos make everything look sterile and soulless.
A lot of the places probably look nicer when you see them with your bare eyes.

>>21544892
>most of you have seen kitchens designed by my dad
Shut the fuck up. Anyone who's used a kitchen before can "design" one.

>>21544845
You're stupid

>>21544892
Eh, not bad
I like the Venetian plaster look. Limewash paint?

>>21544804
That photo does not represent an average grey minimalist kitchen at all.

>>21544703
>>21544758
t. I've never had sex or lived with a woman.
Going to let you guys in on a little secret, women don't want to live in a grey box. They are going to decorate, you can cry and piss your pants about it but that's just the natural order.

>>21544665 (OP)
The boomer one is a mutimillion dollar kitchen.

Carefully beveled stone or wooden slabs are good. I don't like sharp corners.

>>21544892
That table and the third chair is an obstruction of the door path. It's where you want a breakfast table/nook, but there simply isn't room. A console below it holding plants (and as a practical counter space), then a corner/half booth to the right of the window is ideal. Otherwise looks nice.

The flat, soul less decor shit is more of a business preference. They expect tenants and buyers to provide their own color or "personal touch." Like a template.

>>21544665 (OP)
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both are shit

>>21544665 (OP)
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both are piss

>>21544665 (OP)
I need less. Since when did a hearth and a coal oven go out of style

>>21544796
Ohhh SNAP!!!

>>21545783
1800

All the kitchens in the first half are way better looking than the ones in the second. Wood, marble and warm tones beat out grey and visually uninteresting. Thrift store porcelain roosters have soul. By the way I hate boomers, but that in itself is not going to make me rate an office with some kitchen appliances above a kitchen with beautifully patterned materials. I wonder how many posts ITT are just sour grapes.

>>21544665 (OP)
The latter ones unironically look much better

>>21545844
>Soulless millenial

>>21544665 (OP)
GET WITH THE TIMES OLD MAN!

>>21544905
They had to be washed pretty frequently.
>>21544919
You can thank my mom for the non-functional curtains. The wall covering is 30 years old in that pic and looked better when new.
>>21544925
I'm with you, the photog desaturated the hell out of all the photos too. I guess that's what sells though?
>>21544945
Not sure, I think it was some kind of sponge thing.
>>21545729
It's kind of an optical illusion of the photo, there was plenty of room to open the door and get through it. There also wasn't really any other option, you can't really tell in the photo but the fridge is to the right of the window and there wasn't really any other place for that either, both because of the hookup location and because there's another window on the wall to the right and doors to two different rooms in the corner behind the camera.

>>21544665 (OP)
They're both the end of an opposing spectrum. Too much country and it looks like a movie set, too much minimalist and it looks like a factory.

>>21544892
oof, thts sexy as fuck

>>21544665 (OP)
>millennial spaces
millennial own less then zoomers.
the ones you talking about are get X, aka, nu-boomers.
millennial are the most fucked gen in non-war times history.

>>21546712
>There also wasn't really any other option
That's often how it is in real kitchens. Stuff is where it is because that's where it has to be in order to make the place work at all (well, without being much shittier).
There's not enough cupboards and drawers. But I think that's a constant of the universe.

>>21544804
>a yard
That is a million dollar home, millenials dont live there

>>21547101
>here's not enough cupboards and drawers. But I think that's a constant of the universe.
fwiw the whole wall on the right (other than the fridge) had them as well, countertop running the whole length with drawers and cabinets below and a couple of high glass cabinets either side of the window, basically a mirror image of what you can see in the pic.

>>21544723
The latter literally made me "eugh" aloud in disgust when it came up in the webm

>>21544892
My only gripe with the prior kitchen is that it's difficult to clean. I also don't like a lot of visual clutter but if you'd ask me, the ability to clean well is more important to me

>>21545566
Nta but i too have never had a girlfriend and never had sex. I'm 28. How can I fix this. I don't want to hire a hooker

>>21545566
That shit is cute as fuck too

>>21544665 (OP)
The worst part is that those days are OVER.
We cut down all the old growth hardwood forests of the world.
It pains me to see these home improvement shows where the 3 properties have lovely kitchens, but they want to rip out all that dark wood. It's especially painful when they are in say Belize, and it's the same wood everyone wants and desires there, mahogany.

>>21547331
>Nta but i too have never had a girlfriend and never had sex. I'm 28. How can I fix this. I don't want to hire a hooker
Get a tranny. This is what happens to about half of the truecel anons about your age. The other half are also involved, because trannies are groomers and the incel is basically just socially a child.

>>21547355
>The worst part is that those days are OVER.
That's true far beyond just kitchens. Look at houses from 100 years ago made of actual stone instead of fake brick panelling over wood. Stuff nowadays looks cleaner but won't last 15 years.

>>21544665 (OP)
99% of those "Tuscan" kitchens were cheaply made and aged horribly
you see this shit alllll the time when looking at real estate
someone who went all out on this style in 1990-2006(alot of this shit vanishes around the GFC) and then is selling their home in 2020s it just looks old and bad
and not like old style but that the physical materials have aged badly

also generally kids dont want homes/aesthetics that are the same as their parents and kids of people who had these Tuscan kitchens are now buying/building homes and simply dont have the extra 100k to spend on a kitchen that is harder to clean than one thats in style and costs like 20k at most

>>21545566
>i know what women want
guards take this man away, he has lost his mind.

>>21544892
>This, however, is the one real
looks like shit
your dad sucks

>>21544665 (OP)
tfw too poor to have eperienced either one

There is a belief that 'you WILL need to sell your house some day' so in order to present it to prospective buyers everything has to be an eternal blank billboard. Your personality might scare off future buyers so suck up the sterile, style lobotomy.

Late stage capitalism is hilarious!

I agree.

One of the best restaurants I enjoyed was some old large wooden pub turned into a great steakhouse.
The food was great, the lighting was warm dim and relaxing, the wood was soft on the eyes. It was spread out and you could have private intimate conversation
It was expensive but worth it.

Then some Eastern Euro woman bought it, remodeled the whole place. Implementing their version of fancy and did this too it.
Complete with white table cloths, white bright light that felt like an office space. More tables so you didn't have the private feeling anymore.
The food was still good but I never went back. It lost most of what made it special.


>>21547355

Yes the reason the marketing and developers brainwashed people to want the new style is the old style required hardwood forests that were once plentiful and are now cleared. So they sold them on sheetrock, paint, and veneer. Very cheap materials.
And

>>21544665 (OP)
Ornate wood and metalwork is expensive to produce and everyone wants something custom, "minimalist" bullshit costs way less to produce and is fairly uniform by nature yet can be sold for the same price because fuck you what other choice do you have? You're not a customer, you're a consumer you fucking peasant, now eat your soy in your dull gray room like a good little serf.

>>21548037
Fuck I hate that shit. The trend in my area is even worse, fucking picnic tables where you have to sit on a bench with no back support, it's fucking retarded and ruins a bunch of places I'd otherwise like because they have good food.

>>21544665 (OP)
I hate that claustrophobic cluttered boomer aesthetic and the sterile millennial one is too extreme in the other direction. Mid Century Modern is the peak kitchen look

>>21548918
The boomer thing drives me nuts too. I've been helping my parents get their new house set up and it's insane, I look at every wall and think "man what a clusterfuck" and then my mom will look at it and go "oh, we really need something above that one picture." Same story with other decor stuff as well. Naturally despite the intentional clusterfuck, one tiny thing that WASN'T intentionally put there will drive my mom into an OCD meltdown too.

I like MCM but I also don't mind stuff with a bit more detail and traditional style, it just needs to be restrained and tasteful. >>21544892 is fine imo but that's cleaned up and staged for a real estate photo, not fully boomered out to the point you can barely use the countertops like it would've been in everyday use.

>>21549030
I never saw a bare table top or counter surface until I moved away. My mom is a borderline hoarder, every window sill has little birds and catholic statues or shit hanging off it. 1/3 of the dining room table is covered with tea cups, a giant napkin holder, multiple salt shakers shaped like farm animals etc

>>21549228
Yeah, mine is like that too, only all the stuff is genuinely nice - real art, handmade craft pieces, silver, nice furniture and real oriental rugs, etc. - but it's all mismatched and there's just way too much of it. If it were me I'd rotate stuff but she wants everything out all the time.

Actually, I'm living with them for a bit until I can get a place here (they moved states after retiring and I hated where we were before so I came along) and just a few minutes she was outside my room raving about how the wall there, which I think is already overcrowded, needs another row of pictures.

>>21544665 (OP)
Zoomers cant afford that look