Thread 21549250

Is Steak and Shake right? Should the ways of the past be respected and preserved?

>>21549250 (OP)
This is an easy way to tell that two chains aren't owned by the same parent company.

>>21549250 (OP)
Cracker Barrel's only good thing is the old time charm, and the country store with all of the old timey bullshit.

steak n shake's parent company has a market cap of 900mil
cracker barrel has a market cap of 1.22 billion

>>21549291
Wow how completely and utterly irrelevant

I heard steak n shake uses beef tallow for fries
does it actually taste any better

>>21549313
No because they do fucking shoe-string style, which fucks up the texture. One of the worst cut styles, beating only crinkle-cut.

>>21549250 (OP)
Aren't you the people that could have changed over to beef tallow at any point in the last two decades but only did so once it became popular?

>>21549327
>only changed the frying method when people wanted them to change the frying method
wow

>>21549339
So they're engaging in a cheap effort to gain the approval of trend seekers?

>>21549250 (OP)
No, not really, but they are a decent fast food place and cracker barrel is entirely roadtrip shit.

>>21549346
Nigger they saw that customers wanted it and so they did it. Why is that a bad thing?

>>21549352
Because they're chasing a trend and sacrificing tradition?

>>21549317
>Crinkle cut
Agreed, fucking terrible, who came up with this shit and why are people still doing it?
>Shoestring
Fuck you, shoestring are second only to curly.

>>21549371
No cracker barrel customer wants this shit that they're doing, though. It negates the whole point of cracker barrel.

>>21549406
cracker barrel’s customer base of poor fat old people is dying. the company needs to change otherwise line will cease going up.

>>21549446
bold strategy cotton, let's see if it pays off

>>21549371
People want the trend. Giving your customers what they want should be normalized, you're just being a contrarian faggot. If people stop wanting it then they'll probably swap back. You've yet to provide a reason why it's bad to give the customer what they want beyond "I noticed they want it." Good for you.

>>21549446
and making the chain generic and modern isnt going to gain them the audience they don't have.

yuppies and "modern" diners arent going top suddenly go "OMG BARE WHITE WALLS SO TRENDY"

>>21549498
how the fuck does this even work, i hate the stock market, i hate money
>uhh we think youre worth less because idk you just are!
no meaningful amount of time has passed to truly see what happens to the business

>>21549511
It's the digital representation of "how much would I pay for X amount of that company's ownership" at any given time. Uncertainty means people are less likely to take the risk of giving their money to get some ownership.

>>21549371
The long tradition of... using modern unnatural frying oil? Huh?

>>21549259
Unless they are and they're actually playing 4D chess by manufacturing this whole "controversy" to get people talking. Guaranteed this gets reversed in two weeks just like the IHOB thing.

>>21549250 (OP)
who are you asking, exactly? If the answer is "people" then their profitability is your answer.

>>21549250 (OP)
>Steak & Shake
I read somewhere that one of the guys in the board of S&S was an investor in Cracker barrel, and wanted to force himself into CB to ruin it from inside.

>>21549409
>Founded with the popular kitschy farmhouse aesthetic of the time
>Updates to what the modern kitschy farmhouse aesthetic is
What's the problem

>>21549635
Forcing yourself into is a great way to raise kids.

>>21549511
>see value in owning a small piece of the company
>see company trying to speedrun bankruptcy by torpedoing their image, with huge backlash
>stock might end up worth less than you paid
>nope.jpg

makes sense to me

>>21549409
>We took a place full of charm and turn it into a HGTV flipper show.
>You're going to have white, gray, and black npc color scheme and you're going to like it!
This the literal corporate memphis of interior design at this point.

>>21549600
>IHOB
That was always meant to be temporary and was announced as such. Holy fuck you NPCs disgust me.

>>21549250 (OP)
>We will never market ourselves away from our past in a cheap effort to gain the approval of trend setters.
Lmao, picrel is literally the first thing you see on the Steak ‘n Shake website

>>21549635
>invest money
>so you can ultimately lose it
yeah i don't buy it

>>21549691
How is their "past being marketed away" by this image explain?

I've been alive 32 years and have never been inside a Cracker Barrel, am I missing out at all?

>>21549691
>bitcoin and beef tallow fries
what a fucking joke

>>21549259
>reading the tea leaves of meaningless capitalism
i am clapping for you clap-seeking nigger

>>21549404
Crinkle cut is designed to carry more of whatever sauce you dip them in

>>21549317
>>21549404
crinkle cut grew on me, they're consistently better than curly, waffle, standard, tater tots.
steak fries are the most satisfying, and chick fil a has the only good waffle
>>21549848
used to like kfc wedges with their gravy, but everything changed

>>21549250 (OP)
I want them to turn it into 'You Cowards Don't Even Smoke Cracker Barrel' with Viper merch for sale.

>>21549973
>crinkle
>better than any of those
You're lying. Give me a popular place that has crinkle-cut fries you like.

>>21549250 (OP)
Steak n' shake doesn't have a logo that has a creepy redneck leaning on a barrel looking evil and smug, like he's plotting to rape his niece and organize a Klan rally. So of course they don't need to change it.
I'm not some wokie but the original cracker barrell logo is simply tacky and unappealing. Why are his legs crossed? What's with his pose. Actually he looks like a fag scoping out other guys at the local cruising spot. The original logo is poor designed, clunky and asymmetrical.

>>21549250 (OP)
This is CBs new CEO.
That is all.

>>21550556
The company's customers are rapidly dying. They could pivot in a less retarded way but their legacy customer base isn't long for this world.

>>21550562
I'd argue that old world charm is getting increasingly popular with the younger generations too, but since they're so polarized compared to boomers companies are forced to pick sides to stay afloat. They picked the faggy minimalist side.

>>21550568
>I'd argue that old world charm is getting increasingly popular with the younger generations too
I do not see that anywhere. Most young people(I assume you're talking about gen z and younger) engage with the world in ways that are completely alien to old world charm and have a vehement hatred for boomers and things associated with boomers.
They should try to appeal to millennials and gen x, though I guess minimalist trash and alphabet-pandering is popular with millennials. Gen x are just a stone's throw away from boomers so it would have been an easier pivot, but I'm guessing they wanted a bigger demographic even if it's one that is opposed to what they have come to be known as.

>>21549303
CB makes more MONEY therefore they are RIGHT, as everyone with no values.

>>21550526
churchs chicken on gulf to bay blvd

>Is Steak and Shake right?

Why should I give a shit what Steak n' Shake is saying? Who asked?

>>21549636
Manufactured outrage. I don't think any of the rebrand looks good, but I also do not care. A lot of this shit feels astroturfed by political grifters.

>>21550552
oh knoes

>>21549250 (OP)
No. There is zero inherent value to the ways of the past. The logo should remain as it was because the new one is garbage, not because it's old.

>>21550552
Physiognomy is so real it hurts.

>>21549250 (OP)
Whats the chud version of wokeness?
>put a dude in it. Make him buff and manly. No Homo.

>>21550556
>neurodiverse collective
>Providing therapy, consultation, psychoeducational assessments, trainings & speaking services to support neurodivergent individuals
how is this woke?
I thought conservatives wanted welfare services to be funded throught charity instead of the state

>>21549250 (OP)
>a fucking logo
That's all it takes to make white people cry in 2025?

>>21552819
>Whats the chud version of wokeness?
Wokeness.
Why call it a different word when it's the exact same thing with the exact same mentality?

>>21552924
The teams have been made and if you help anyone in any way you're a woke libtard, and if there's any change that you think is a bad idea then you're a chud. And it's not getting better any time soon.

>>21549511
The people building cracker barrels are also involved in the car-to-mall plaza pipeline. Its not really about money but instead building the new edition of infrastructure. The new logo is made for phones and to be legible on maps. Who gives a shit, the solution is a bulldozer.

I still say Cracker Barrel went downhill when it caved and removed the cap gun and pop gun/rifle section in the boys section in the back corner of the store.

Also, Uncle Herschel is sitting a tight leg cross right there Jesus fuck. I know we use tractors alot now but mamy farmers have quite built legs.

>>21549250 (OP)
The coverage this is getting is stupid. Why are people pretending to care?

>>21552975
Why would I give a damn what a logo looked like on my telephone? Modern mobile internet browsers are smart enough to frame and format whatever you throw at it.
I'm not fucking calling them to make a reservation.

>>21552983
Because you went there when you were 19 years old in the mid 2000s and you saw that little girl wearing a cheap Disney princess outfit and she was pulling the elastic bands here and there while constantly itching herself flashing you and the whole store with her goods and completely oblivious. It was then you knew with your raging hard-on this was the best day in the world and you would NEVER and I mean NEVER forget that one beautiful day at Cracker Barrel.

THAT'S why we care.

>>21550636
>church's
Not great, just acceptable. Foosackly's are decent but only because they slather them in queso. The fries themselves are whatever.

>>21552980
You posted this before but I'm loving that hot anime bitch so fair point, post on king.

>>21553015
And I will keep saying it till someone realizes it's true poi.

Imagine eating food other than your home and paying 3-4x as much for the "privilege" to sit in some foreign room with quite literally other people who you don't know in that same room.

Christ

>>21549250 (OP)
Just found out Cracker Barrel cheese in Canada (apparently owned by a French company) is completely unrelated to the restaurant in the US.

>>21553022
The more of the old timey toys they started getting rid of, the worse the place became. There is absolutely NOTHING differentiating their food from literally any other diner, even the fast food ones like Denny's and IHOP. The ONLY draw of cracker barrel is the atmosphere and the novelty shop. Remember those little toy weasel things that like, rolled around a ball all crazy and were super dope when you were a kid? Yeah, I got stoked when we'd go to cracker barrel just so I could look at those little things rolling around.
Turning this place into another globohomo, sanitized fully corporate entity will just run it fully into the ground. It won't be a good place to take your kids, it won't be a place that grandma, or when she dies, your aging mother will want to go anymore. Yes, it was always a corporate chain restaurant, but the whole charm is the veneer of a mom and pop old diner. Remove that veneer, and try to let the food stand on its own? It's just another overpriced shit hole no one wants to go to, no one wants to pay thirty bucks for some pancakes and eggs.

>>21550552
(((They))) CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
*sobs*
(((THEY))) CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!

>>21549250 (OP)
Whatever, it's never held a candle to Waffle House anyway

>>21553104
is it good?

>>21553160
It will make them consent so yeah.

>>21553127
I miss cap guns. Having a cap gun for years then finally getting caps for it was a dream come true. We need to give kids more cap guns/rifles or just pump and pop guns so they can play cowboys and injuns or cops and robbers. People don't know what is right and wrong anymore.

>>21552983
because I like caring about things, those who don't are anti thought subhumans.
this one in particular held the company store aesthetic, when I had to go cross country or live in a van, cracker barrel was the restaurant.

>>21549250 (OP)
Steak and shake has been weirdly political for awhile.

>>21553192
Well, we are entering the new golden age of America. Might as well hop on board or be left behind.

>>21553160
It's okay, just regular cheese but more expensive than the store brand.

>>21549511

The people selling are betting that Cracker Barrel just walked themselves into another situation like Bud Light did where they have pissed off their core consumers and it will negatively impact sales and the value of the company.

>>21553192
Well some companies seem hell bent on alienating their consumer base, I guess they're trying to sweep them in by doing the opposite of what most big corporations do. Don't know if it works but the idea isn't half bad

>>21549250 (OP)
It should also be known that CB supports trans. But what companies run by a jew don't these days.

What exactly is a cracker barrel? Not american but the interwebz seems mad about the logo change

>>21553512
I am actually very proud that America finally has a true trans continental railroad again.

>>21553521
Just a barrel of soda crackers people use to hang around at the general store and munch on.

>>21550596
BUT NOT FOR LONG! HAHAHA HEHEHA!!!

>>21553521
old people restaurant

>>21553521
what's up with the brat?

>>21553553
Sex appeal.

>>21553558
that's not how MY cracker barrel operates!

>>21553561
I'm sorry for you

>>21553561
Its correction barrel now old man

>>21553577
i don't want any damn brats around while i'm eating my chicken n' dumplings

>>21553578
correction?

>>21553579
Yes, you have sex with them. High impact. What else are they good for?

>>21553583
brother i just want corn bread muffins and lemonade

i don't want none of your fancy city slicker correction nonsense

>>21553590
Corn bread? Muffins? Lemonade? Is that what they are calling it now?

>>21553592
suffering succotash, anon, is you is or is you ain't a fan of cornbread muffins?

>>21553521
A barrel full of saltine crackers.

>>21553736
*soda

Durr

>>21553783
Difference being?

>>21553797
One is a soda crackers and the other is a saltine.

>>21549250 (OP)
Steak & Shake's right in that they should concentrate on making money. Not pissing off your customers is a good way to do that.

>>21549250 (OP)
>steak and shake
Isn't steak and shake failing? Every steak and shake restaurant I've ever seen seems to be closed, constantly under renovation, or an empty parking lot all times of the day

>>21549279
Can you imagine being assigned to the Castro assassination team though? Looney Tunes tier shit.

>>21554185
The entire world isn't your observations fuck face.

>>21549279
Retard take.>>21549250 (OP)
>Should the ways of the past be respected and preserved?
Retard question.
>>21549446
>cracker barrel’s customer base of poor fat old people is dying.
Make room for poor old fat brown people with less standards, right?

>>21550568
>I'd argue that old world charm is getting increasingly popular with the younger generations too
nostalgiafagging on the internet is not indicative of the trends of the wider gen Z / gen alpha generation. plus, the people who nostalgiafag here are the type of people who are afraid to go outside and can't afford to even step foot in a cracker barrel. miserable fucking retards who are failures in life, and genuinely believe they'd be happier if they were children again.

if anything, i'd feel zoomers with money would be averse to going to chains in general, in favor of higher quality local spots (if available). if you're looking for something rustic why the fuck would you go to a fucking cracker barrel for sysco slop when you could go to the meme hipster burger bar and pay out the ass for slightly above average burgers?

>>21554378
i live in florida and old white people have the lowest fucking standards when it comes to food. there's a reason so many shitty restaurants manage to thrive here. boomers think good price = good food. outside of cities like tampa, any place with decent internet reviews will have most reviews mentioning how "good the value" is - IE, relatively cheap. thus, internet reviews are largely useless there. that combined with the boomer pallete means it can be a pain in the ass to find decent restaurants there.

>>21554385
I don't know, I could find good Jamaican and Cuban food even in Brooksville/Spring Hill. I haven't lived in Florida in a decade, though.

>>21549250 (OP)
Instead of rebranding they should just go bankrupt

>>21554385
You must have a truly discerning palette

Cracker Barrell was always crap. Waffle House is better and has a closer connection to Southern culture than Cracker Barrell putting a bunch of wooden shit on the walls or whatever. Breakfast restaurant culture in the South is shit and it's embarrassing this is what people are losing their minds over. We need more local diners like the North has instead of the current situation where your choice is Cracker Barrel or iHop.

>>21553521
you can't do that