Thread 21557808

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>>21557808 (OP)
PISS
OUT
MY
ASS

>>21557808 (OP)
>ai slop

>>21557823
Fuck you anon, it's real. It's my cat.

>>21557816
Where's the OXO?

>>21557823
No. REAL

>>21557906
also real

>>21557823
>brainrotted retard can't tell real from ai
Many such cases.

Best (organic) beanz? I'm a hand grinding pour over chad if it matters

>>21557982
Peets

>>21557816
nice tea buddy
you prefer the switch over the regular one?

>>21558050
Regular Switch with V60 glass cone tends to make brighter cups on average, even with immersion, also there's bypass.
Switch with Mugen is absolutely balanced with more body and tamed acidity, the extraction is even.
The Tarachine is like the Deep27, it's a fast dripper and there's bypass if you the water level exceeds the puck, it's meant for medium to dark roasts and it makes cups with full body and sweetness.

I just need a flat bottom brewer and I'm done now.

>>21557816
Oh shit they ported mugen to the switch?

>>21558063
You can't take the gear out of the queer.

goddamn, jimmy!

>>21557818
thank you

>>21557823
>anon thinks cats don't exist

Does anyone know of any keep cups that don't have plastic/ silicone lids?
Only thing I can find online is pic related with a ceramic lid, but the smallest size is 350ml (looking for something more like 250ml) and it isn't leak proof.

>>21557808 (OP)
>got one of those espresso coffee pod makers for free
>the different capsuals i tried all tasted weak and watery, except for a caramel one, which tasted like it was burnt
are these things really just dogshit or am i doing something wrong

>>21558472
literal goyslop

>>21558218
what coffee did jimmy have?

Best method to make a large batch of cold brew? How long would it last in the fridge?

>>21558497
i can say the name without getting banned

>>21558522
44 gallon drum filled with cold filtered water and ground coffee wrapped up in cheese cloth(make sure it cant open up)
about a month if refrigerated and sealed properly
punch a keg tap near the bottom(or punch it in the top and lay it on its side) before starting and remove the coffee before serving
let sit for 1 week, opening and pushing the coffee filled cloth around a bit once per day.

ok i calculated my giotto flow rate at 6.5 g/s
oh that was with a empty portafilter in(if that makes a difference)
tried my 22g basket today, it works fine but i think i prefer the 18g, also it just falls out when knocking the puck out which is annoying
and the shots werent any better
but they were more aesthetically pleasing to watch but maybe thats just me getting better at brewing.

i have read that the flow rate should be higher than that and it could be caused by scale build up in the grouphead/mushroom

>>21558654
https://espressoaf.com/guides/profiling.html

>>21558402
I don't know what a "keep" cup is but I'll assume you just mean a tumbler or an insulated vacuum bottle
Pic related is the Fellow Carter (Wide). The smallest it gets is 12oz/355mL and it's got a screw top. No sippy option unless you go for the Carter Move version that's taller and thinner and comes with a splash guard insert

>>21558497
pepe jijon

>>21558790
Thank you so much, yeah this almost exactly what I'm looking for, ideally it would still have some kind of sipping lid once you take the main lid off but oh well.
The Move comes in 220ml which is perfect for me.

>>21558402
no. silicone is based.

maybe my 6 years old aergrind is the problem

Time for some cofe+tiramsu!

Just reheated a cuppa in the microwave

>>21559568
why

after a whole month of drinking sour espresso from my dedica, i decided to look for a way to improve the shots
long story short, letting the pre-infusion cycle run two times before pulling and using the "medium" temperature setting gives so much better results it's not even funny
i think i'm done with this machine lads

>>21559703
you could try the bambino plus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2TNEhrBU5Q
its like the next model up
or go to a gaggia classic and opt to mod it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2yZYcOFACQ

>the Bambino® Plus
>colour: Aboriginal Culinary Journey
jesus fuck...

>>21559727
>colour: Aboriginal Culinary Journey
>gas station color palette
topkek

>>21557808 (OP)
How the FUCK is that cat holding that cup 'o joe??!?

>>21559733
dont go rama rama

>>21559736
Heh, nothing personnel kid.

>>21559717
yeah i'll probably go with a gaggia and mod it
i'm decent at soldering if it's required so it'll be fine

>>21559788
good community too
so you wont buy a well reviewed machine only to find it has zero people online/on forums
good to be able to have more help than just asking the company directly

coming to terms with the fact that light roast sucks so im going to sell my zp6. do i get the k ultra or the x-ultra?

>>21559794
lol

>>21559794
Blade grinder.

>>21559794
>light roast sucks
keep it on the down low we still want to bamboozle more gullible retards

the euro mind cannot comprehend this

>>21559863
the mutt brain cant imagine this

>>21557616
Day2, fast all day, eat nothing, feel great mate. barely need to hydrate or drink any liquids either. becoming ascended.

return back home 3pm or whatever it was, eat some food, drink some coke zero, drink double coffees, starting to get kinda headache.

idk, I might have ascended caffeine desu. it might be over.

the experiment will continue until further notice, stay tuned for the next episode

>>21559863
>>21559872
all three are complete wtf to me

>>21559882
a cold coffee with a bit of peanut flavor and chocolate is that confusing?

>>21559902
but coffee already tastes like peanuts and chocolate

95c water was less bitter than 100c

>>21559942
did you brew it for longer to compensate for less extraction

skipping coffee for a yerba mate today.

>>21559955
>mate
yeh whats up?

>>21559955
>mate
r-right now? in front of everyone?

>>21559863
it has V on the label because it has Vitamins!

karina worship. yeah i said it

>>21559878
>poppin an ibuprofen did not solve my tension headache
>did not doublestack the ibuprofen with paracetamol
drinking coffee later in the day often have this effect some times, even if I was coffee abusing the entire day
however, I don't think this happens with energy drinks or synthetic caffeine to this level
what the fuck is the difference?
is the coffee mold and toxins attacking me?
this shit needs to be studied

thoughts and opinions?

>>21560067
Extremely poor genes.

>>21560067
this is clearly the blood vessels narrowing under the influence of caffeine phenomenon (and either introducing a headache or stopping one you already had) at work, but I don't know either why other sources wouldn't do the same

>>21560088
by that definition it would be good genes, since the bean is toxic plants which my body would reject, it only operates on prime time human approved fuel (the blood of my enemies)

for reference I have been a coffee drinker for like 2 decades at this point, the more your body degrades the worse everything gets

could be though, could be, idk, just a thing I keep nooticing from time to time

>>21560096
some times I had it trigger kind of a headache earlier too
but yes it seems other sources of caffeine never have this effect as far as I can remember, which is strange
might have to try and take an equivalent caffeine dose later not coffee

baratza esp for 200 budget?

>>21560148
Quick way to shoot yourself in the foot for a few years.

>>21560159
why

first moka since i got the ecm(3:50am)
it just hits different
i think after doing it a few times in order of most fun to do/watch as it brews it goes
spro>moka>pour over>immersion filter/drip
also the caffeine high is way more balanced and longer lasting(i mean its a higher dose and more yield so it makes sense) with the moka
which is probably why italians have like 8 7g shots spread throughout the day

>>21559727
This is why I'll never buy breville/sage

>>21560224
dot painting is probably my biggest problem with modern abo "culture"
everyone in the world and even in australia is lead to believe that its some ancient painting technique or style or whatever
but it was literally invented and introduced to abos by a german in like the 1980s
REAL abo painting looks like this
(also yes they used dots in their art and culture pre colonialism but that looks totally different to modern day "dot painting")
(also no im not going to show Gabarnmung even though it was carbon dated to 44,000 years ago it has also been added to much more recently which throws everything at the site into question imo)

>>21560255
sir this is the coffee time general

>>21560255
>it was literally invented and introduced to abos by a german in like the 1980s
just like fire making

>>21560340
im discussing the cultural influences of the design of a coffee machine

>>21560186
Empirical shipment got here today so I can go wild with S tier coffees for a bit :) Elkin Guzman carbonic maceration catiope/bourbon is already stinking like a fruit salad 3 days off roast so that'll be on the menu in a while. Have a few lbs of greens sitting out not in sealed grainpro so I need to get those roasted before I pop into the fall/winter wush wush stash. Think I'm going to brew and roast some dry ferment doublewashed Wilma Ramon typica.

>>21560348
actually abos knew about fire making
it was one of their only learned skills in over 50 thousand years of isolation
they used that fire to burn down the bush and pick up the charred meat of animals killed in the fire after the fire burnt itself out
its like blowing up a Walmart to eat 1 rotisserie chicken
this practice of lighting fires shaped modern day australian fauna and flora
and also fucked them and us over in the long run
oh uhh coffee goffee!
uhh...

>>21560353
we gonna get more roasting webm's?

>>21560369
I tried coferment and it's disgusting. What do I do with the rest of this bag? Just throw it out?

>>21560438
i "generally" enjoy co-ferments
but a lychee co-ferment is ROUGH
thats a strong flavor profile even when found in a washed coffee
but actually fermented WITH lychee?
i understand id probably dump the bag too
idk maybe you can dampen the flavors by making a cold brew.
>lo alt colombian slop made into a co-ferment and price jacked up
yeh that sounds about right

>>21560438
>I tried coferment and it's disgusting
looks like we got another one boys

>>21560445
I'll just get rid of it. Coffee should be a good time.

>>21560474
TRVKE

>>21560438
I remember liking this one when I tried it back in March. How did you brew it?

I've been using my aeropress as a pour over

>>21560485
>deep 27
>100c water
>3.1 steps on the Ode 2
>8g cofe
>130g water

>>21560493
yeah idk maybe rest it and try again later. I brewed it in french press (immersion) at 16.5g/250mL so probably more TDS than your method.

maybe there's some merit to this honey process thing

>>21561200
Bing chilling

>>21561200
He's exactly right that's crazy
>new job new town
>only one coffee place that's also a bistro
>order a flat white to start
>they ask if I want a small or large
>????
>order a small
>takes them like 15 minutes
>it comes out in a 12oz cup
>it's filled to the brim
Pretty sure they made like 4 actual flat whites then just dumped it all in to a big cup

Can I marry my moka pot?

>>21561200
expecting to find a place that's serious about coffee ever is the part that sounds unreasonable to me
you would probably have to be a globetrotter, or live in the most civilized of countries

>>21561253
yes
propose with a new gasket
then make a brew and if she sputters thats a no

>>21561253
Remember to consummate your marriage with your moka pot

>>21561200
>>21561229
he is right and im sure he has personal experience but his line delivery sounds like he has a coffee coach that drilled in all of this into his mind so that he could sound smart when giving interviews
(mind you a hoffmann/john cena colab/crossover episode would be absolute kino)

>>21560493
heavily processed coffee works better with lower temp

about to buy df54 tell me right now why its the best choice

>>21561998
how about you tell us why you think its the best choice and we will tell you if you are wrong or not

>>21562017
in that price range it seems more sturdy and better quality than baratza esp and the fellow opus

thats about it

>>21562024
yeh thats about right
fellow = slop

>>21561998
I'm very happy with mine. It makes a very nice sound when in use too, a nice humm with the grind.

days since Lance published a video that will "change coffee forever": 0
tune in next week when he coffee changes forever again

>>21562072
>0bar "spro"
yeh... nah im good mate.

>>21562049
nice

>>21562072
He's poorly presenting a discord channel I've been in for years.

so good

Do you put maple syrup in your diner coffee?

>>21562237
i dont put maple syrup in anything, muchacho

there is a chase of higher and higher extraction but what about lower extraction?
has there been exploration in intentionally and precisely lowering extraction?

>>21562283
oh and what is the point where you can have the lowest extraction and have the best taste?
is it linear where the lower the extraction the lower the taste?
or is there nuance and breakpoints of flavor, like extraction goes down and taste goes down until you hit a certain breakpoint where flavor actually goes up

>>21560067
>>21559878
>Day3
Ate food for lunch, came home ate some more food
also downed 2 monsters (1L) (320mg caffeine) did not get a headache
two large cups(mugs) coffee might be slightly more
don't think it would have that much of an effect purely from the amount

what do you guys think about this turn of events

>>21562283
>has there been exploration in intentionally and precisely lowering extraction?
certainly, tons of folks prefer lower extraction and aim for it.
>>21562291
>oh and what is the point where you can have the lowest extraction and have the best taste?
this question is a lot more complicated than you think. in a literal sense, more extraction does equal more flavor but in practice the flavors extracted at the tail end of extraction are often less palatable. this of course varies from coffee to coffee depending on a variety of factors like processing, origin, and roasting technique. moreover because taste is subjective and experience based the sweet spot of "best" taste is different for everyone.
all you can do is experiment to try to find out what you like.

>>21560438
>light or medium roast

Darken it yourself in the oven— no higher than 430. Listen for 2 cracks, and pull on the second. Alternatively, bloom high (204) and pour over low (175-185Dark, 194 the others). Play with the grind. Test with French press for max extraction.

>>21562291
>grind
>water ratio
>rate of pour (pulsed v. Steady)

I like staying slightly courser with more beans for what you're getting at, and only chasing finer grounds dragons doing iced coffee to get those higher extraction notes, all in the ame of balance. You just have to play with things—

https://www.baristahustle.com/app-archive-main/the-coffee-compass/

https://notnotcoffee.com/coffee-roasting-time-temperature-chart/

>>21562072
>>21562117
They're all giving him high fives, what's the problem?

>>21563004
I'm not that poor; I'll just get rid of it.

>>21562072
I'm really hoping this video is the birth of the first coffeefag lolcow. I've seen him getting mad at the odd commenter here and there and he seems to be butthurt about them every other video these days.

>>21563102
the best espresso youtuber for espresso aficionados who dislike actual espresso

>>21563114
You'd think that after his nth $5000 grinder or machine he'd have figured out how to dial his coffee, but instead he chose to rebrand his style as "gushers" and now "soup". Wonder what the next term will be: I think "slop" fits well.

>>21562072
Can someone TL;DR this soup stuff? I can't stand watching this guy's videos.

>>21563126
>Have you ever wanted to make filter-tasting coffee out of your espresso machine while making a complete mess? Say no more
>And please don't say "Just use a V60" or I'll get mad

>>21563126
high flow low pressure vs slow flow high pressure. For light roasts you can just wait 6 weeks then dump water through them in sub10 and get a bright flavorful shot.

>>21563155
>high flow low pressure
Last I heard that's just called a moka pot.

>>21562237
I want to take a bite out of your mug. Looks like toffee.

>>21563169
Aeropress if you want that microplastics notes.

>>21563126
>I can't stand watching this guy's videos.
Why not?
>>21563190
Now with less microplastics for the low price of $199.99 (Don't let the goyim know about putting a paper filter in a $15 french press).

>>21563214
>Why not?
NTA, but he's a fundamentally unserious clickbaiter and refusing to give him views is probably the ethical move

>>21563235
For me it's that fag voice he does from time to time. He also keeps trying to kiss Hoffmann's ass at every turn, he just sounds too desperate for attention.

>>21563102
>I'm really hoping this video is the birth of the first coffeefag lolcow.
Ask and you shall get. I saw him call some dude insecure for calling him "funny coffee mustache guy" in a comment, then this shit showed up instantly on my feed.

>>21563344
>unbearable
despite being on ozempic he's still a gigantic faggot

Zp6 v60 bros please tell me what recipe you are using and your grind size

>>21559727
Lol what the fuck? Is there an actual pic of one of these?

Does anyone here actually bother with v01 or 1x2 -sized brewers and filters?

>>21559946
>did you brew it for longer to compensate for less extraction

No, retard. Less extraction was the whole fucking point of turning down the boiler temperature. Bitter coffee means it's over extracted. There are other changes you can make to get less extraction, but a 5C drop in temperature is pretty easy and solid option. Not many roasts need more then 92-93C anyway.

>>21561998
>about to buy df54
Excellent choice. I bought mine 9 months ago and it works great. Espresso shots have great clarity, pourovers are a breeze when I want a longer sippin' time.

Just be aware that hand grindin' cucks with buyer's remorse will try to shame you for your purchase. Never mind that their grinders were also made in China, just bully them relentlessly until they kill themselves. The weak should fear the strong.

>>21562072
This shit is just annoying. He's a "world champion" barista and has coached others to the same prize. Yet now he's clearly acquired a taste for under-extracted, acidic as fuck sloppy "shots" and won't stop yappin about it. He acts like this dogshit technique is somehow better, despite openly admitting that it can't touch the sugars or the oils that make espresso what it is. He's become the thing he used to hate, and that's sad.

I'm unsubscribing, since we no longer enjoy the same things. Let me know if he ever gets back to actually making espresso.

>>21563471
>I'm unsubscribing, since we no longer enjoy the same things.
I unsubbed after the community post crashout. It was already getting annoying as fuck that he couldn't shut up about those burrs he designed, or how he'd take time off his videos to bitch about muh haters (That clearly don't affect him). Should've just stuck to sciencefagging about WDT or something.
>Let me know if he ever gets back to actually making espresso.
Not gonna happen, he clearly let the popularity get to his head.

>>21563482
This is why clive coffee is the goat. He resists the urge to fluff his vids with bullshit and dropshipped "custom" burrs and as a result keeps his content tight, nothing over ten minutes, just juice

>>21563453
everyone ITT is an adult and already knows that?
anon's post suggests he's under the impression that there's an inherent bitterness to brewing with 100C water, which is why I'm asking if he accounted for the other variables

>>21563214
>Why not?
His voice is annoying. I watched one video by him about latte art and he used the phrase "silky milky."

>>21563214
I hate it when he randomly breaks out into song with his shitty faked singing voice
Is this a white people thing?

>>21563471
He's not a world champion barista. He called himself a "latte art world champion" for winning an open event that noone else shows up to. He did not win(or compete) the World Latte Art Championship. This is back when he was shilling Breville at a weekly William Sonoma popup.
>https://www.coffeefest.com/coffee-fest-los-angeles-2025-schedule/lawco-latte-art-world-championship-open
Is a very different event than
>https://wcc.coffee/world-latte-art-championship
He's the piratesoftware of coffeetubers.

>>21563565
It's a nu-male/söi thing.

>>21563515
>anon's post suggests he's under the impression that there's an inherent bitterness to brewing with 100C water

No it doesn't, you lying piece of shit. That post implies that he intentionally changed a variable that is known to have the effect of reducing bitterness. Brewing too hot leads to over-extraction, pig fucker. It's simple science that you seem to be too braindead to comprehend. Kys, faggot.

>>21563516
>he used the phrase "silky milky."

I unironically enjoyed that video. Despite the faggoty language, it was a short, concise explanation of how to prepare milk for making latte art, and he explained some common pitfalls & how to avoid them. That's the type of content that should be encouraged, even if some of the "humor" is cringe. It's the long-winded, rambling nonsense where he tries to reinvent drip coffee via a $9001 espresso machine that we should bully him for.

>>21563344
>i dont take these comments to heart
he says after making a seethepost

wtf is mhw-3bomber and why is it all over aliex?

>>21563589
>He's the piratesoftware of coffeetubers.
it all make sense now
i heard his dad worked at la marzocco

>>21563790
chinkoid company that steals western designs and makes them for cheaper and slaps there name/logo on them
they basically make their own version of every piece of coffee equipment ever made

>>21563793
Any other dipshit coffeetubers have their own custom breville?

had a moka last night but decided to get back on the espresso train
thought i should shake it up and wanted to see how my 6 week rest Sara Gutiérrez, Carbonic Maceration, Colombia: 1900 MASL would work out
it didnt
ran way too fast(on the exact same grind setting my daddy's girl blend borderline stalled so i have no idea wtf is up with that, i know its a lighter roast but its not THAT much lighter)
and it not only channeled it spurted a jet of coffee all over my hand(on the e61 lever) luckily it stopped the beam of coffee spraying across the rest of the kitchen
the shot smelled and tasted like peperoni + lemon juice
dumped it
made another with daddy's girl and turned it into a copetardo
great day overall tho
:)

>>21563816
>i have no idea wtf is up with that
Different coffees are different :) Just wait until you run a super shardy ethiopian that chokes no matter what.

>>21563934
well i just received my five senses order of another 3 bags
so 8 bags total
gonna be fun
but deciding on what brew method(moka, filter, filter immersion, espresso) and what coffee to use in each is going to be hard
my copetardo worked out well actually
let it cool and it was rather sweet.
:)

What is the point of a carafe when doing pour-over? Every single written or video guide features a carafe, I've been doing mine directly on the cup.
Is it just for show?

>>21564288
You can make more coffee in a bigger cup, duh.

>>21564288
more coffee
so if you only brew 1 cup then it doesnt matter unless you want to "decant" or you want to have the coffee drain over ice to make an iced coffee then its just for show/useless

>>21563816
>want to make a moka with that Carbonic Maceration from this morning
>forgot to change my grind size from espresso
>now have 30 fucking grams of espresso ground Carbonic Maceration that is going to(just as it did before) channel and piss out its ass all over my kitchen
>still have to grind some for my moka

anyway, i did finally finish my moka brew, its good
like rose water + cherry dark chocolate

>>21563793
"Where'd you hear that huh? You should tell me in the unban requests. I made the Pietro burrs btw please buy my product already."

is it gay to make a PSL? will you guys make fun of me?

>>21563420
i use the origami but its the same thing, but more finicky
i always start with 5.0 and go from there, sometimes they are good at 4.5 and sometimes are good at 5.5, i grind on an angle too for slow feeding
i use 4:6 method with some variations, 5 pours and a bloom of 30 seconds, the bloom i do 2x the weight of the coffee, this works most of the time
i bought a washed ethiopian recently and since they produce way more fines, the best cup was 5.5 grind size and 4 pours (30ml, 70ml, 75ml, 75ml)
>>21563344
he really is insufferable, you can see he was a doctorate student

>>21564288
brewing directly into a cup for me always makes the coffee to hot to drink, the carafe serves to dissipate the heat, so when i pour into the cup, its a good temperature

>>21564471
>PSL
Penis
Sucking
Lips
yes thats gay

>>21564438
>*stretches*
>thats on you bud

>>21563788
He says he reads every comment because "feedback is useful" but it's clearly because it personally his ego. Most average comments go unnoticed, but the ones jerking him off get hearts while anything slightly negative gets a snarky remark. And then the goober serves up an entire essay where he assures everyone he's unbothered multiple times lol.

>>21563344
>I don't take these comments to heart
>Btw I'm gonna block you if you talk shit
Lol
Lmao, even

>>21564471
>women's seasonal drink
you are allowed to drink one per autumn.

>>21564380
Just start grinding for moka all the time from now on. When you accidentally put your moka grounds into an espresso machine you can just call it a gusher™ or soup™ like the cool kids do.
>>21564471
I wouldn't drink any coffee drinks that sound like medicine.
>Yeah bro, we dropped 20g of PSL last night it was dope

>>21564640
>gusher™ or soup™
true but i dont want to have to pay royalties to lance every time i do

2025 and still the best combo
25gr beans 350gr water
Almost Friday wagelords

>>21564757
Insane ratio. Bros drinking mud

>>21564471
Only if you use store bought syrup. If you make your own syrup, post which recipe you used, a photo, and what you think of the end result.

>>21564757
>25gr beans 350gr water
for me its 20 and 300

>>21564760
Stick to drinking soi, buddy
>>21564774
Also acceptable0spmn

>>21564757
For me it's whatever Lance tells me this week.

>>21564878
i wish you couldnt earn money from the internet
the content that is uploaded to it would be so much better
because lance wouldn't be doing his engagement bait
>this is the best
>no this is the best
>no really this really is the best
>lol you believed the last video was the best, not THIS is the best
instead it would be "i like this brew method, you should try it"

Lance is living rent-free

>>21564967
hi lance

>>21564967
Lose weight fatty.

>>21564967
Bro, just learn to dial already it's not hard.

>>21565023
>forgets to changed from filter to espresso grind size
>shits and pisses into a cup
>calls it a new drink and its great
genius!
truly a visionary

Ahem

>>21565131
id rather drink "soup" for a year than ever see this picture again

>>21565131
"Bro I'm not on Ozempic, I just get mad about it in the comments because there might be Ozempic users reading them."
So what's the lifehack here? 3 sets of 12 failed espresso shots, or 3 sets of 12 golf club swings?

i think lance has makin me tired of the "daddy hoff" name
"daddy" in general kinda grosses me out.

>>21565265
made*
oops
hes makin me retarded apparently

>>21565265
He's a sycophant through and through, it's obvious he wants to be like all the other big coffee guys.

>>21565296
>big coffee guy
lets be honest there is only hoffmann
there are smaller guys like wired gourmet, and even smaller guys like brian quan.
but there are no "big guys of coffee"
hoffmann basically stands alone at the top.