Thread 21558947

Thoughts on the Ninja Creami? Also how likely will a Labor Day sale be?

prob fine if you dont own an ice cream machine already
costs less than a pacojet at least

>>21558947 (OP)
>Thoughts on the Ninja Creami?
Terrible.
You arent in a professional kitchen, you dont need a pacojet for on demand, perfectly portioned sized plates.
You definitely dont need a much shittier version of it either.

Just buy the ice cream machines like a Whynter (or any other similar amazon fake name special) with a built in compressor.
If you are paying a good amount of money for a machine, it sure as shit should freeze your ice cream for you. Having to prefreeze it in your own freezer like the Creami fucking sucks

>>21558947 (OP)
Stupid. Just get one of those gel-filled bowls for your Kitchen Aid that you put in the freezer. Then make your anglaise and dump it in and mix it up. I worked in actual restaurant kitchens where we used those. Because people are getting like a melon baller worth of ice cream garnishing something else.
Unless you're making ice cream every day or in big batches, you don't need a dedicated machine for it. Get a stand mixer you can use for a lot of things and then you just need the ice cream bowl.
Alternatively just do the rock salt and ice method with the old school cheap set up. You won't use that Ninja thing much. It'll sit there until you sell it at a garage sale in 25 years. I know how these things go. You want to purchase the new thing. I get it. But you don't need it and I've laid out several superior alternatives. You're welcome.

>>21559019
the freezer bowls you can use with stand mixers take A LOT of space

ninja creami has 400ml plastic bottles in the freezer which is easier to manage

>>21559043
lol, buy it then. I'm sure you'll really make ice cream from scratch constantly. Wise investment. But also I have the bowl and it's not that big. It's like a gallon milk jug but shorter. I'm talking about the one that fits the K5, not some floor mixer at a bakery.

>>21558947 (OP)

Had one, took it back. Utter shit. It's finnicky as hell, needs precisely calibrated amounts of xantham gum and shit to work, prone to throwing ice up into its own gears, and obnoxiously loud to boot.

Just get a bullet blender and some frozen fruit. You'll be happier in the long run.

>>21559019
They leak blue fluid into your food. Kitchenaid knows this is an issue. They've known for decades. They still manufacture the same defective design. For your use, that might be ok since you're not the one eating it and for a restaurant, amortizing the replacement cost over thousands of uses makes it worthwhile. At home, you'll use it three or four times before it starts leaking.

>>21559007
You still need to freeze the ice cream wifh a pacojet, right?

>>21559139
Yeah.
You prep and freeze however many preportioned containers of sorbet or ice creams you need to have on hand. Quick and easy, and you have a ton of commercial freezer space.

Personally I dont want it in my home freezer, I want ice cream on a whim. I dont like needing forethought the day before.

Also unrelated, I bought the Slushie machine and its build quality was so fucking bad, I know the Creami has to be on the same level of trash.

>>21558947 (OP)
ignore some of this thread that is just conjecture or retards that cant scratch their ass and breathe at the same time.

The creami is nice for us because of freezing the base solid, this makes it an easy way to get rid of fruit that might otherwise spoil (just toss it in with some yogurt or something instead of having to make something more complex or get the blender dirty). Handles lower fat "lite" ice creams/ sorbets/ frozen yogurts better than my freezer bowl style ice cream maker did.

it is LOUD as FUCK when running.

Fuck sacrificing freezer space to keep that dumb bowl frozen, also fuck waiting for that dumb bowl to freeze so i can maybe have ice cream TOMORROW.

I remember using a plastic bag to make ice cream.

It's pretty great. You have to freeze the ice-cream base, but with a conventional machine you have to freeze the bowl. The joy of making ice cream is getting to experiment with a wide variety of flavors, so there's more joy to be had from a machine that does small batches. People complaining about the noise are being very precious. It's not something you operate continually for an hour and it's not loud enough to hurt your ears. It's versatile because it does good sorbet and frozen yogurt too. It's good at mixing solid chunks into the ice-cream as long as they're not too fragile (like cookie pieces — which get obliterated).

Don't get the deluxe or the soft-serve model. Those are fucking gay, their construction is noticeably shoddier than the cheaper base model, and they take up too much space.

>>21559288
>with a conventional machine you have to freeze the bowl.
With a conventional machine, you push a button and it goes to -20f (-28c) and freezes your milk and cream in 30 minutes whenever you feel like making ice cream. You throw whatever you want into it and the paddle mixes it in.

>>21559302
Thanks for the pointless non-correction. I'm sure that style of machine is great for fatasses like you who want to gulp down gallons of frozen sweet cream and don't care about flavor or experimentation. I prefer being able to make single or double portions of whatever flavor I might think up and whatever type of frozen dessert I might want.

if this thing doesn't freeze what does it actually do? just stir it? can't you do this with a $100 kitchen machine that can also make dough?

>>21559532
the blade enters a solid block of ice in a container and shreds it into a soft paste
it was originally used for pacojet but the patent expired so now everyone can make similar style icecream machine

makes DQ-tier blizzies for pennies on the dollar
based, but a large unitasker, prefreezing ice cream is an annoyance
i have one and still buy quarts from the store, so what does that tell you

now this bitch..... i want this one.

Is a food processor better ?

>>21559288
>deluxe
>worse than base model
huh

>>21559007
>Whynter
>>21559007
>it sure as shit should freeze your ice cream for you
yeah. considering a Whynter because my living blow up doll keeps going on how she wants one of the Ninja models - the soft serve one. but for me I'd rather have something that takes less overnight prep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID0v6ug1BZ0

>>21559257
>freezing the base solid, this makes it an easy way to get rid of fruit that might otherwise spoil (just toss it in with some yogurt or something instead of having to make something more complex or get the blender dirty). Handles lower fat "lite" ice creams/ sorbets/ frozen yogurts better than my freezer bowl style ice cream maker did.

Yeah, this is the main reason I'm looking at the Creami. It seems a lot more flexible when it comes to low-calorie concoctions compared to a regular freezer bowl ice cream maker.

>>21559136
>They leak blue fluid into your food
No they fucking don't lmao

>>21559346
>>21559302
Neither of you is very smart.

>>21559346
>I prefer being able to make single or double portions of whatever flavor I might think up and whatever type of frozen dessert I might want.
Conventional machines allow you to do this, in a fraction of the time with much more flexibility on hardness and consistency.

@21559900

>>21559007
Bro I live in a tiny apartment. I don't need an Ice Cream machine with a built in HVAC unit.

>>21560682
Move into a house problem fixed.

>>21558947 (OP)
Went over to my moms today and she actually had one of the things. I've heard it shilled here and there before but figured it was just another plastic crap scam.
Believe it or not the shit is actually legit, this was nothing but water, one egg, some protein powder and a scoop of cocoa. No dairy at all and it was as smooth as any ice cream I have tasted. It was almost gelato levels of smoothness. Aside from it having a bit of a weird aftertaste from the stevia in the protein powder I wouldn't be able to tell it didn't come from a store.
The only downside is that it doesn't stay at a spoonable consistency in the freezer because it doesn't have all the emulsifiers and such so each time you want some you have to run it through the machine for a minute to get it smooth again but still this whole jar was only 240 calories. I am legit impressed and am planning on visiting again to try some other stuff with her.

>>21559007
I don't understand what's so hard about just doing it the night before. Assuming you don't gulp a whole pint of ice cream in 1 sitting, you can just prepare another pint the night before when the other one is about to end

>>21560860
>this was nothing but water, one egg, some protein powder and a scoop of cocoa. No dairy at all and it was as smooth as any ice cream I have tasted.

This is pretty much the main appeal for me. I don't think even the giant compressor machines are able to do this.

>>21560686
It's 2025 my dude.

Thoughts on the Ninja Creami Swirl?

>>21561724
Big bitch of a machine. See >>21559288

If you just hit "respin" on a regular Creami after the ice cream has already come together into a good texture for scooping, you get something close to soft serve. The ability to extrude it into cones is not worth the extra price and added bulk unless you're going to serve ice cream cones every day. If you want one now and then, you can respin it to a soft serve texture and extrude it from a bag.

>>21560860
doesn't look the way you describe it

>>21558947 (OP)
I actually had no idea there were ice cream machines without compressor. Are they any good?

Ice cream is my fave so when I got a creami for free I used it ever single day for months, fun of experiment with recepies and make stuff you can't get in a store. I got kinda annoyed buying cream or other dairy recently though so I haven't used it in a couple weeks. I will probably put it away for the winter.

>>21561979
Yeah. There's an $8,000 professional ice cream machine called the Pacojet that makes ice cream using the same method. The Ninja Creami is basically a mass-produced, affordable copy.

>>21560682
>I live in a tiny apartment
then why the fuck would you want an ice cream machine in the first place

>>21562232
Because the Ninja Creami is small and I like Ice Cream. Try to keep up dummy.

i wonder if there's a better method maybe with some kind of cold laser cutting

>>21561886
That is after I took it home and stuck it in my own freezer for a while. As I said it freezes harder than normal ice cream so you have to re blend it if you don't eat it all in one setting.

think of how many pints of premium locally made ice cream you can buy for the cost of the machine, the cost of the ingredients and the time required to make/clean

it just doesn't make sense

>>21562589
like... 40 pints maybe

>>21562603
a ninja creami is ~$200
tillamook is generally considered good icecream and is generally on the high side of what is available
it is regularly 7.49 per 32oz where I live
so around 26 48oz portions of tillamook, or 78 pints

how many fucking pints of icecream are you people eating?
one pint a month would be 6.5 years of ice cream just to breakeven on the machine without taking in to account any of the ingredients
a pint of store brand heavy cream is 3.59
I'm not doing the math, but I'm 99% certain no person purchasing one of these machines will ever come close to breakeven compared to buying whatever the nicest quart/gallon ice cream in whatever local grocery store
I'd love someone to prove me wrong

>>21562589
Given that I eat perhaps 2 pints a week (mostly ice cream, but including sorbet and sherbet), and that the ingredients are at most 2/3 of the cost of the finished dessert, the Creami still pays for itself in at most 18 months by my rough estimate.

My favorite flavors to make with it are not available at any price. Furthermore, the availability of commercial flavors I like is actually shrinking. Black walnut used to be widely available, now it's rare.

Vanilla is a common commercial flavor, but every vanilla ice cream on the market sucks ass compared to a home made frozen vanilla custard. They use the cheapest grade of Madagascar beans and skimp on the quantity. Also, vanilla can be enhanced with a bit of tonka bean, but that's illegal to do commercially because of pants-shitters.

Ice cream has a lot of sugar, and while you can find low / no sugar ice cream the substitutes they use taste fucking gross. I can make my own reduced sugar ice cream by replacing some of the sugar with allulose, which doesn't disturb the texture or flavor.

>>21562651
>2 pints a week
so like 2000 calories worth of icecream per week
that's got to be a decent bowl every day?

I mean, I guess you've figured out a very specific use case that works for you but this cannot be a typical thing

also, I just looked and I can get hudsonville (a midwest brand) for 2 dollars a pint
and blue bell makes black walnut
but if you need to regularly consume pints of a specific flavor then actually this machine is perfect

>>21562684
>so like 2000 calories worth of icecream per week
No, as I just wrote, I some of the sugar with allulose. I also add a bit of guar gum to cut the cream / milk ratio. That's another advantage over commercial ice cream. I can economize on calories without sacrificing flavor. Health nut ice cream is gross. It's always like some sort of sticky frozen Cool Whip concoction. You can, however, make healthier ice cream that's nearly indistinguishable from the regular kind.

>and blue bell makes black walnut
They do. Good luck finding it in a store.

>>21562707
*I replace some [...]

>>21559136
Bullshit, dude.

I'd use mine a lot more if it didn't sound like a jet engine taking off

>>21559978
I don't know who you're replying to if I can't hover the post number. Why do you people do that? You're essentially responding to no one. No one is going to scroll and read numbers to figure it out. Just retarded.

>>21562716
I don't really understand this complaint. It runs for such a short time. Are you wanting to use it while people are sleeping? Does it hurt your ears? It's loud, but not earsplitting.

>>21562727
Ice Cream is a night time food for me so the noise is an issue

>>21560877
This. The entitlement these people have for the "I want in right now" attitude... Most people can't even probably comfortably afford this type of stuff. They put it on some card, adding to their debt, and they rarely use it. Hell, I have access to a bit of money and it took me a while to stop buying frivolous shit on a whim because it really brings me no joy and serves no purpose. Stuff like a stand mixer or food processor are good to have even if you rarely use them, but things like a non-professional ice cream gadget really just collect dust.

>>21562312
shill

>>21558947 (OP)
>Thoughts on the Ninja Creami?
dogshit and will die in 1/20th of the lifespan of the cheapest vitamix.

>>21562204
That method is not real ice cream. Just shaving and stirring a solid block of whatever isn't the same as gradually crystalizing creme anglaise.
I've seen such machines at gas stations. Grab the "pak" of mango or chocolate mocha whatever and put it in the doorway of the thing and push a button and 2.5 minutes later you have some spoonable frozen sweet mash. Like magic.
I'd sooner get the hand crank bucket with the salt and ice. Of course the plug in attachments on those are like $20. You guys want to blow several hundred dollars on some appliance you think is going to help you get healthy because of all the fitness ice cream you're going to make, knock yourselves out. Don't say I didn't warn you.

>>21562642
Good work. No one can argue with that. The main thing is that none of them are really even going to realistically use it enough to ever pay for itself. So few things like that ever are.

I still have this rotating base curly fry machine from the early 90s. You spike the spud onto the thing and some blade is introduced as is spins like a can opener.
We made curly fries with it exactly ONCE.
Because as most people at the time didn't know, you really have to fry them twice to make them any good like restaurant fries. So we had these brown and limp spirals of something that we sort of enjoyed the one time and never used it again.
I'm going to look for it and I'll post a pic if I find it.

>>21562745
Warn us of what? Something not fitting into a semantic category that you've restricted via a contrived definition?

There's only a very slight textural difference between what comes out of the Creami and what comes out of a conventional ice-cream maker. It's of course recipe dependent. It's true that the Creami doesn't make it quite as smooth, but disqualifying its output as ice cream is ridiculously fussy.

>>21562758
good luck bro
fries are slightly different in that the truly freshly made fries are uniquely excellent and there really isn't another way to get that at home
but it still takes quite a bit of prep/cook time and the delta between good frozen fries made in an air fryer compared to homemade+deep fried can be difficult to justify
I can't imagine bothering with a curly fry maker when simply chopping a potato with a knife is fairly easy

>>21562745
>creme anglaise
*crème

i like that it doesn't have a compressor, this shit is expensive to run as an europoorean and i already have a fridge
i don't like buying another machine that has a motor in it just for one purpose, I already have a powerful kitchen machine

>>21562774
I just have a regular keyboard. That doesn't count as a misspelling, cunt. I can't imagine the kind of person who's going to hunt to insert a special character on this anonymous forum of ignorant phoneposting chodes.

>>21562868
>That doesn't count as a misspelling
imbécile (it's also fr*nch btw)

>>21562879
Color me impressed with your worldly posts!! Not sure why you're censoring the word "French".
And you're pretty particular about the fancy 'e' yet give no fucks about capitalization or punctuation. Very odd.

>>21562885
you made a mistake no sweat
now you know

>>21562902
You're nothing but mistakes. What a loser. I'm done with this lame thread. Unlike you I DO have better things to do.

>>21562949
Lmfao. Weirdo.

>>21562949
don't worry darling everybody makes mistakes
some (you btw) more than others

>>21558947 (OP)
It doesn't make real ice cream as well as the ones you can buy for $25-50 and it's loud as fuck. The only reason to buy one is if you want to make low calorie ice cream alternatives.

>>21562716
>I'd use mine a lot more if it didn't sound like a jet engine taking off
first manufacturer to dampen the noise in a big way will win market share

>>21563021
>The only reason to buy one is if you want to make low calorie ice cream alternatives.

This is a huge selling point though. If I can make good enough low-calorie ice cream with this thing, then I can feasibly work this into my daily diet. Compare that with buying a $5 pint of Halo Top every day, then the math starts looking a lot better for the Creami.

>>21563543
I wasn't suggesting that it wasn't. Just trying to temper peoples expectations about making real ice cream with one. Halo Top sucks ass, so you can make "diet" ice cream that both tastes better and has better macros with one.

For those that have made low-calorie ice cream with this thing, does allulose make a noticeable difference vs. other sweeteners? I've pretty much always just used sucralose for everything.

>>21563873
erythritol should be affordable and be suitable sugar replacement
you cant even buy allulose conveniently in europe

I just make the mass with kitchen robot and freeze it. Sure, it's densier, but saves me screwing around with machine-in-freezer thing.

>>21562949
>crashing out this hard over a simple mistake

>>21563873
It makes an enormous difference. Ice cream with sucralose has a bad aftertaste and doesn't even have the right texture (since sugar does more than just sweeten ice cream). Sugar alcohols like xylitol or erythritol are the next best substitutes, but they taste less like sugar than allulose, which is pretty much indistinguishable other than being less potent (around 70% as strong). Sugar alcohols also cause stomach upset in excess while allulose doesn't.

On top of all that, allulose actually has a variety of health benefits since it is good for the gut microbiome. It even smooths out the insulin response from eating carbohydrates (less of a spike).

>>21558947 (OP)
I can make homemade ice cream without using condensed milk so i'm happy with it. I think condensed milk is way too sweet for me

>>21564768
you probably dont need a pacojet clone to make ice cream that doesnt contain condensed milk