Thread 21578600

Are bread machines worth buying?

>>21578600 (OP)
They're like dildos. If you buy one you're either gay or a woman.

>>21578600 (OP)
Depends.
If you want artisanal bread? No.
If you mainly buy the cheapest white sandwich bread you can find? No
If you eat a fair amount of bread? Potentially. At least two loaves a week.
If you got a family that can knock out a loaf every other day? Absolutely.

Bread machines do a good job of making basic bitch bread to raisin bread, pumpkin bread, and herb infused bread. They are also handy for starting dough like pizza dough and such by taking care of the multiple kneading sessions.
Just for making bread, you aren't saving money if you buy the typical $1.50 loaf at Walmart once a week because the initial cost is well over a year worth of bread. The raw ingredient cost is going to be close to a dollar a loaf for a 2 pound bread machine. Factoring in the increased power demand, clean up, etc? You don't save anything really.

What you do get is much better tasting bread without a bunch of additional ingredients. I got one and I use that bitch a lot, but if I want fancier shit, even only a step up like a baguette? I gotta use the oven anyway. 99 times out of 100, I am just having basic bread for filler or sandwiches though and go through about four loaves a week, so it was a damn good purchase for me.

>>21578600 (OP)
Yeah.
It’s called an oven, dipshit.

Yeah if you want a simple sandwich loaf and don't want to bother kneading or dealing with proofing and dough - it's convenient in that sense. But if you like a nice crusty country loaf/sourdough - No.

>>21578600 (OP)
Nope
It only takes a couple minutes to knead some dough in a mixing bowl and that's most of the work. sprinkle cornmeal on the bottom of the bread pan to prevent sticking.

>>21578600 (OP)
I had a Breadman long ago and it was great. The only complaint I have is that the little paddle in the bottom of the pan that mixes everything ends up leaving a hole in the bottom of the loaf so those slices tend to fall apart easily. But other than that, it was great.

Look how much bread this lady made.
bread machines are a waste of time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNQiwqUp9lU

>>21578697
Based granny.
I miss my granny :(

>>21578711
Where is she?

>>21578693
This is true AND misleading as well.

The benefit of a bread machine is you load in the ingredients then fuck off without worrying about it.
Bread making isn't hard, it's a few quick steps spread out over hours. It's the hours aspect of bread making that's really the problem. If someone is a stay at home mom, they don't really have much of an excuse to not just make bread the traditional way. Start the dough, do some house work, knead it and rest, do some house work, knead it and pan it and let it rise, do some house work, bake the fucker while making dinner in the stove top.

If you aren't a house wife or neet or something, time is a valuable resource and just dumping your ingredients then going to bed or work and coming back to already baked bread (some models supposedly even keep it warm) is real handy.

>>21578613
yeah this is a pretty good rundown. I do quite like my bread machine. you toss in your ingredients, come back a few hours later, and have a fresh loaf of bread. it's great. is it amazing bread? ehhh it's not the best, but it's good. if you actually are into baking and want to learn about breadmaking and do fancy stuff, it's probably not for you. if you just want easy bread on demand, then it's great. but yeah, good point about the price too. I got mine for free from a family member so that wasn't a concern for me. I only end up making bread two or three times a month, I don't eat it that often. so it probably wouldn't have been worth buying one at cost for me. it takes up a fair amount of space too if that's an issue for you.

>>21578612
What's the downside?

>>21578694
you're supposed to take the paddle out after the kneading cycles are done bro, there is usually a signal that it's time to take it out. you'll still end up with a small hole because of the thing the paddle sits on, but it shouldn't cause any structural issues.

>>21578613
Based articulate answer haver

>>21578600 (OP)
Nah not really, bread's piss easy to make

>>21578918
For you

>>21578907
If I was going to babysit the machine, I'd just make bread the old fashion way.

>>21578819
In heaven baking bread and making mekici.

>>21578612
>I am a dildo expert
>>21578600 (OP)
If you use them twice a month they're worth it. If you use them once every few months you're better off just finding a bakery to frequent.

>>21579271
I mean fair I guess but it's only one thing you have to do that takes 5 seconds

>>21578907
No way are you serious? We just bake ours and have the hole in the middle. That doesn't make sense to take the dough out then put it back in.

>>21578600 (OP)
Not really.
The price of them is hardly worth the space they take up and you won't get a return on investment unless you're using them constantly. Plus, you only get your bread in one shape.

>>21578600 (OP)
If you're a helpless manchild yes

I'm heating up my pizza stone and in a bit I will throw some dough I just made out of yoghurt, bread flour, and some water+yeast+salt onto it and make some breads, this takes like 1 hour to rise and proof. You just roll it out for flatbread or roll it into a ball or rope for individual boules or *rench bread long style loaves. Small ones bake in like 6 minutes at 450.

>>21579974
>Old good new bad
we talked about this, Karen

>>21578600 (OP)
No. No knead bread is super easy to make in the oven and is faster.

>>21578600 (OP)
To be honest, no. You are better off buying a high quality dutch oven, some parchment paper, and just finding a simple dutch oven bread recipe, there are many simple ones, some of which don't even involve kneading the dough.

>>21580243
I bought some kitchen aid aluminized loaf pans and put one on top of the other and use binder clips to make a lightweight dutch oven. works great.

>>21578600 (OP)
Yes.

>>21578600 (OP)
They are if you buy one from a thrift or second hand shop. Ive spent 20$ total on breadmakers across 2 decades. Both were essentially new in box.

>>21579609
why not? you take it out in between the kneading and baking cycles while the dough is just rising. it's only open for a couple seconds, you're not gonna interrupt the process or anything. if you look at the instructions of your bread maker, I guarantee it will suggest you do this and it probably even beeps to tell you when it's time to take it out. it's no big deal if you don't if you don't mind the hole, but you are "supposed" to.

>>21580429
I love 3000IQ jank like this, thanks for the chuckle.

>>21578600 (OP)
seems like a stupid unitasker. a stand mixer does 90% of the same job and is more flexible.

>>21580429
That's smart, what material are the binder clips made of so they don't melt? Are they metal?

>>21581246
They're all metal. Black or Silver works. They are large/jumbo binder clips and they can hold a stack of paper 1 inch thick.

>>21581262
Nice, I might buy another bread for and try your method for sandwich bread. Do you find any significant difference between the open pan and this method?

>>21581265
another bread pan*

>>21581265
I always bake loafs covered. I assume if I baked it uncovered it would need to be done at a lower temperature and take a lot longer.

>>21581274
I see, thanks.

>>21578613
i agree with this faggot and want to add that you might want to find a second-hand machine cheap since a lot of retards buy them but don't use them

>>21578600 (OP)
A bread machine is a white person rice cooker. So do you eat enough normal bread for one? If not, don't bother. If you do, it's handy. It WILL make you fat though from all the carbs.

>>21578693
This man is talking about biscuits. Very simple to make, self rising flour + cream, knead for a bit, into cast iron, BOOM done. Oh, I should make some tomorrow, would go good with the leftover gravy I have.

But it is NOT sandwich bread. That requires a mold, and you will be doing way more work.

>>21581214
Technically they do jams. Which if you are into that... its ok.

>>21578681
I ended up using mine as a set-and-forget dough maker. Then I pop the dough out post ferments and shove it into molds for the main oven. Makes for easy subs, buns, or baguettes. I could stand mixer that crap, but it's more of a pain.

>>21578600 (OP)
If you're often short on time, yes. If you have a few free hours a day you can just make bread by hand.

The best thing about the bread maker is that you can program it to make your kitchen smell delicious in the morning when you get up.

Peasant bread is like the easiest shit you can make without a machine

>>21582071
>This man is talking about biscuits.
I make a quick poolish then kneed the rest of the dough in a mixing bowl then transfer to an oversized baking pan for finish kneading. I don't make quick breads.

>>21578600 (OP)
They're fine for kneading but try baking a loaf (assuming you'll get one) in the machine and one in the oven. the 2nd load will come out way better. they should call these bread knead and shapers or something.

They’re ok. I’ve had one for 25 years now and don’t use it much since we got a stand mixer, which in retrospect would have been the better purchase but felt wayyy too domestic at the time. Loads of fun for mediocre pizza dough and basic breads, though. If you’re at all picky about these things they’re nice, but if you’re picky about these things, you’ll eventually want the stand mixer.

>>21578600 (OP)
>Are bread machines worth buying?
USE YOUR FUCKING OVEN!

>>21582907
I AGREE, BUT AN OVEN IS A NOT AN AUTOMATIC DOUGH KNEADER

>>21578917
Not based "based articulate answer haver" self dick sucking.

>>21578983
You're a big guy

don't use mine often but the timer is great. nice to wake up to the smell of fresh bread on weekends and a still warm loaf.

>>21578613
bread making isn't an ordeal if you are organised. you can set it up to put a loaf in the oven at 8pm each night and have good bread every morning. peoples techniques for one loaf is just too much rigmarole.

>>21578867
fwiw you can easily manage the time factor using conventional methods. scaling your yeast or levain amount, cold fermenting, etc can permit very flexibile scheduling. tons of sourdough recipes are essentially 2x 6-12 hour fermentations for example so it's easy to fuck with it once before bed, once in the morning, then bake at night.

>>21582912
automatic dough is a want, not a knead

>>21584036
7/10
>>21583169
>>21583187
Listen, I respect you make bread. I like my bread maker. It's fast to set up. It's easy to clean. I don't have to learn a god damn thing or master anything. I put shit in: bread comes out.

It makes me happy. I need you to stop trying to convince me to not be happy with something that makes me happy.

>>21578600 (OP)
Yes, only for the fact that you can get a decent one on facebook marketplace for $20
Everyone thinks they are great, then they just sit on the shelf unused.

Dont buy one new

Get a good model and don't buy new. They're great if you're a daily bread eater and you cannot get good bread nearby; you can have a loaf of bread made from flour, yeast, salt, water and no other crap freshly baked and delicious in the morning just as you get up.

>>21578600 (OP)
Would be nice if mine actually would bake it well enough for bread to be dark and crispy, but I can't get that even with additional baking, so fuck it.

>>21584036
good

>>21584142
>I don't have to learn a god damn thing or master anything
If you are happy with that then ok, that's just a very foreign perspective for me

a bread machine makes one loaf of bread.
It is useless.
you can knead enough dough for a several loaves of bread in 15 minutes.

Yes they are worth it.

>>21578907
>>21578694
>tfw my family also just left in
I also thought it was holy bread. I was young so I never actually made it myself but this makes a lot of sense

>>21587376
i don't see how that's better than 90c bread

>>21587385
Fresh bread without dough conditioners, sweeteners, or preservatives is amazing. Issue is because it has no preservatives it spoils far faster. It looks the same but trust me it tastes much better

>>21587385
Well bread isn't that cheap anymore at the store and this tastes a lot better. Only thing that would be nice is one of those German bread cutting machines.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rXNDoDM233I

>>21587393
Just freeze it. Lasts for months.

>>21587445
I already freeze bread but I feel like I have to toast it to be any good. I like soft bread so it's a little annoying

>>21587453
If you got time or a fast oven/airfryer it's best restored soft when sprayed with some water and wrapped in foil.

>>21578600 (OP)
If you use a slowcooker, a breadmaker is a must have. Both of them allow you to throw your ingredients in and come home to a fresh hot meal at the end of the day.