Thread 21605476

What do you eat on the daily that doesn't make you want to off yourself?

>>21605476 (OP)
Get treatment and maintain your relationships.

>>21605486
I'm genuinely going insane, I'm 25 and I think I'm fucking dying or something or maybe I have cancer. It feels like my body has completely turned against me no matter how hungry I am.
My one saving grace is Greek Yogurt.

>>21605489
post diet.

>>21605496
I don't have a set diet

>>21605476 (OP)
Fruits, vegetables, salmon, nuts, lots of sparkling water. It gets better man

>>21605489
Go to the doctor.
Say you want a referral to GI for a double endoscopy (esophagus and colon) to check for Chron's disease and cloitis. If this is what you have, you can be put on iv medicine to suppress your overactive immune system.
Most of the dietary solutions to diarrhea involve vegetables and fiber, which is the opposite of what you need, if you have ibd.
Get cuts of raw meat, and cook it yourself.
You need to avoid food chemicals even more than the general population, and cook and soften your vegetables. Avoid rough leaves and woody stuff

>>21605476 (OP)
is ibs where you fart constantly because i literally fart all day. it makes my life hell and i ve tried gasx and beano and nothing. I eat fairly decent and still rip ass all day.

>>21605505
that's why you have iBS

>>21605515
is that a bad thing?

are they straight gassers or just little poots?

>>21605515
Not exactly, but it can cause that.
If you constantly have pain and diarrhea, you flush out your good bacteria, and more hearty bad bacteria can take it's place. This new bacteria eats your food and produces gas.
To replace the fart bacteria.
Fast and then take kombucha/probiotic and avoid simple sugar.

>>21605515
You also might have something like lactose intolerance.
Some molecule that you can't digest gets digested by bacteria instead.

>>21605513
this is hell

>>21605476 (OP)
>Irritable Bowl Syndrome
more like
>Intense Brapping Session

>>21605553
If it's as bad as you're saying. You probably definitely have this or cancer. Get the colonoscopy either way. Don't worry, you'll get on prednisone for a little bit and that should help. Lift while you're on the roids.
The immune suppressant drug can take a long time (months) to stop the diarrhea, but there should be way less pain.

>>21605476 (OP)
>What do you eat on the daily
40mg of prednisone
4 months supply came from india today in fact
ibd here though

>>21605476 (OP)
esl posters get a lot of ibs because of their shit tier food

>>21605602
kill yourself kikel

IBS is just as retarded as premature ejaculation. The fuck means it's premature? That's what your body is supposed to do and your lucky your body can do it FAST. Same way with this. Your should have to shit a few times a day and piss too. This is a GOOD thing it means your body is working well.

Make of this what you will, but I've had a marked decrease in symptoms since taking 500 mg of Vitamin C daily. Can't find any studies online to support this though

>>21605476 (OP)
I seem to be doing better minimizing seeds of any kind. So no nuts, lentils, peanuts, beans, grains, etc. Still a bit early to say but I seem to be doing a lot better just eating potatoes instead of grains. Fruit and vegetables of any kind mostly seem okay. I do well with milk. I don't really eat meat either since that doesn't seem to digest well, not as bad as seeds but not great either. I don't think I really have an issue with seed oil if you eat that.

>>21605777
Pretty much any deficiency can worsen it. Being dehydrated too. Vitamin C is supposed to act like an antihistamine and histamine can cause diarrhea and stuff like that.

Are you taking regular ascorbic acid? Sodium ascorbate is supposed to be absorbed better if so and less irritating to your gut since it's not acidic.

Hey fellas is it normal that you shit small chunks and liquid after eating a big meal and going to sleep ?
Happens when I eat meat and potatoes or anything fried
Im bit ashamed of going to gastrologist cause hes gonna want my poop sample

>>21605645
Premature means in your pants instead of her panties

>>21605916
Shitting liquid is never really normal. Are you saying you shit in your sleep? Do you drink alcohol or anything caffeinated?

I havent taken a solid normal shit in almost 4 years
Diarrhea or the consistency of mud exclusively, usually accompanied with general pain and discomfort

>>21605919
Who cares about the childs panties? What does that have to do with anything?

>>21605476 (OP)
humble pie

>>21605476 (OP)
Beef heart
Beef kidney
Beef liver
Beef tripe
Chicken liver
Chicken wings
Chicken drumsticks
Salmon
Chicharonnes
Almond milk yogurt
A lot of sugar free gelatin
Butter powder
Coconut oil
Cacao butter
Egg whites
Chicken broth
Olive oil
Mozzarella cheese
Basil
Parsely
Dairy free whipped cream
Sour cream

And various herbal teas. For IBS relief I recommend peppermint, lemon balm and chamomile.

Also, no, I'm not a low carb advocate, not a diet absolutist. I eat like this because it minimizes my symptoms.

>>21605916
That's a sign of fat malabsorption. A gallbladder issue. Go to a doc

>>21605962
It could be other things. If I don't eat much solid food and drink a lot of juice I'll be shitting out a few chunks and more liquid but that's because of the sugar. If you have fat malabsorption you'd have other obvious signs like your ass would be oily after going, or you'd see droplets of oil in the water, or your turds would be floating.

>>21605977
I didn't say it was fat malabsorption. I said it was a sign of it. Chill out.

>>21605777
>>21605910
Vitamin C mega-dosing is used in holistic and functional medicine. The theory is that a lot of us need way more than the FDA recommend 50mg per day or whatever. They recommend doing a "Vitamin C flush" for digestive issues. You can Google that term for specifics. It's a bit woowoo but I've gotten good results from it

>>21605994
Yeah a lot of RDA recommendations are basically bare minimum to not die but not what is optimal. I know that smoking/vaping/caffeine/alcohol can increase how much vitamin C you need and most people are using at least one of those. Pretty much any kind of stress on your body can make you need more.

I don't have shit-myself syndrome because I'm not a genetic failure unlike you lot.

>>21606061
yeah ur special everyone pay attention to this anon they're perfect

>>21606061
Mean

>>21605994
The irony of this post

>>21605476 (OP)
In my case, anything that doesn’t have vegetable oils, beans and grains. Legumes, starches and all meats are fine (for me)

>>21606106
I forgot to mention some things. Every time the shits and pains flare up i avoid food completely and just fast. It helps a lot. Just avoid inflammatory stuff, man.

>>21606109
>>21606106
If it works, it works

>>21605476 (OP)
Omeprazole

>infrequently but consistently get abdominal pain, need to find a toilet immediately when it happens, stool is semi-liquid, then everything is right as rain for like a month, no symptoms before or after
>this is regardless of what i eat
fuck me

>>21605476 (OP)
heh

>>21605476 (OP)
i have crohns and i just eat rice for every dinner. Mixes pretty well with beef and pasta or i put it inside a wrap.
On workdays I just bring a container of cooked rice to work to eat with the staff food

>>21605476 (OP)
Get yourself a gf with a healthy gut biome and eat that ass every day.

>>21605476 (OP)
Describe the discomfort/pain and if you notice any correlations with food types.
Diverticulitis (mild) could be another thing that can be mistaken for IBS

Your doctor may not want to scope you for simple diarrhea symptoms. You should lie to them and say that you've seen blood in your stool.
I had post-infection IBS from the DFW airport food last year, and it suddenly stopped being a death spiral after six months. Was the culmination of diet and exercise. I was ready to end it all because I was living like a monk. Rice, potato, small cuts of beef, all unseasoned, low fat.
Now I eat whatever the fuck I want, though it's mostly healthy, and only have a bad shit in the morning if I was chugging mountain dew like a retard.

>>21605476 (OP)
Are you lactose intolerant? Cut all milk products first, including whey. Try lactose-free products instead. Add probiotics (lactose free) to your daily stack. Add bulardii (known to alleviate IBS) supplement to your stack. If you spot blood in your poo, get your colon checked out. Bright blood, lower intestine issue, dark or maroon blood is more serious. It's probably nothing, but it's safer to be sure. Either way, do it for your own peace of mind. Get well soon, anon.

I dont have IBS, but today I was so constipated when I finally shit clogged the bowl and I was already late for work. It simmered all day stunk up my place and still needed the plunger.

>>21605476 (OP)
Keep a food diary
Every day for at least a month or two write down what you eat and what your bowel movements/symptoms are like
You'll notice certain foods really fuck you up and others don't. I realized if I eat something with lots of lactose or beyond a certain spice threshold, I'll get constipated for 2-3 days, have colon pains, and then shit blood. It fucks up my guts and I can't go back to regular movements for at least a week.
Try different foods and write everything down. You'll figure out how not to kick the wasp nest in your stomach.

>>21605518
You realize he posted this thread specifically to set a diet, right?

>>21605515
IBS can be anything wrong with your stomach or digestion.
IT's a catch all term since doctors don't give a shit to look into it further since the JEWS know poor digestion will = poorer quality of life which MEANS BETTER CONTROL OVER THE POOR

>>21605476 (OP)
I don't know, I may be wrong but I think IBS life-style should be the same as non-IBS people.

Did you try to have a what is considered to be healthy lifestyle before diagnosing yourself some possible imaginary life sentence ?

And most importantly, if you tried to improve your health, did you do it **gadually**? Because I see a lot of retards whose diet consists of dino tenders and spaghettios, then they try to increase their amount of fibers from zero to hundred, get constipated and conclude that fibers are le bad

In order to have a healthy lifestyle you should
> eat only whole grain cereals (1 or 2 portions a day depending on your physical activity)
> eat 5 portion between fruits and vegetables (ballpark 400g of fruits and 400g of vegetables, leaves vegetable portion is considered to be 80g instead of 200g)
> careful to increase your amount of fibers gradually
> eat fermented and non pasteurized food (yogurt, kefir, home-fermented vegetables) daily
> 30/40g of nuts and seeds

>>21608028
(2/2)
> consume 5 portions a week of legumes (preferably with cereal to have complete amino acidic profile)
> drink the right amount of water (2L to be adjusted based on personal activity)
> protein preference should be: vegetable proteins (legumes + cereals, mushrooms), small fat fishes (fresh anchovies, mackerels, fresh sardines), eggs, white meat, fat fishes, red meat
> don't drink alcohol (max 2 alcoholic units a day)
> don't smoke

> daily physical activity (10k steps baseline + light cardio and weights or even better mid level train)

> good sleep hygiene (7/9h, relaxed, don't sleep after midnight, sleep at the same time, no light or screen 1h or 2 before going to sleep)

> expose yourself at sunlight for an adequate amount of time (depending on the phenotype and skin area exposed can vary a lot. Ideally for a light skin person with face, arms and legs exposed to **direct sunlight** 15min are sufficient)

> good stress management (mindfulness, religion, non-passive hobbies that you find relaxing, massages, eliminate stress factors that can be eliminated)

> good social health (with parents, friends and partner, sons)

These are more or less the basis of (again, what is considered today state of the art) the lifestyle that increase your chance of being healthy and increase your life expectancy.

These are very general, you should start with the dietary recommendation and adjust based on personal context (drugs and pre-existing medical condtions). But you should really try focusing on fermented food

diet wise, you should also follow the principle of variety: don't eat the same things every day. There are lot of cereals you cant eat aside from wheat, rice and corn (amaranth, buckwheat millet, sorghum, oat, teff, fonio, quinoa) and also legumes (peas, beans (in all their varieties), chickpeas, lentils, fava beans, soy)

>>21608028
>>21608030
I did all of that and was still sick as fuck and continually getting worse. I developed malnutrition and doctors kept missing that somehow. After fixing that I was still having issues and the best days I've had recently were when I completely avoided grains/legumes/beans/nuts/seeds and just ate potatoes instead.

I'm pretty sure I have an issue with lectins or something and all of those things are high in it. If I eat them I get diarrhea and gas and feel so shitty and tired and in pain. But the days I've eaten potatoes instead I actually stay awake all day and have less pain. Potatoes have some lectins but it's generally a lot lower.

There's probably a reason most cultures traditionally sprouted and fermented grains/nuts/beans/seeds/legumes and didn't always just consume them the way we do now. A lot of people say they get sick from regular bread but can tolerate real sourdough which is a lot lower in lectins.

>>21605476 (OP)
Try cutting all fat, dairy, and animal products from your diet. one serving of whey is probably fine.
eat starches, like beans and home made bread (with fewest ingredients possible) use aspartame to make food taste good.

>>21605515
IBS is one of those weird catch-alls like chronic fatigue syndrome or ADHD where it's a really broad grouping of conditions diagnosed from symptom without a known cause and worked back to a proposed condition. So mixed up in each label are multiple genuine physical conditions with similar appearances and then a lot of people who have similar symptoms for environmental or behavioural reasons and who need those causes treated instead. Because these groups are working ass-backwards in terms of proof they generally defy all actual attempts to find a root cause because all the people shoved in the bucket have no real similarities.

About half of people who claim to have IBS just have shitty diets for example and are the sort of people who lie not only to doctors but to themselves about what they eat not helped by modern goyslop food. Ditto a large number of people diagnosed with ADHD just had shitty parents or were on the very young end of the age group for their year (statistically speaking children born one day before hard school year cut-offs are hugely more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD, those born just one day after are the least likely).

>>21605486
>and maintain your relationships.
>Hello friend. I had terrible painful diarrhea shits last night. I spent 20 minutes pushing a quarter cup of hot liquid from my anus.
>Salutations friend, I am saddened to hear this.
>Thank you friend, the news of your sadness has cured me of my ailment.
You're just as retarded as the boomers who think "fresh air" will cure your cancer.

>>21605476 (OP)
First of all, fix your blood sugar, or find out if it needs fixing.

One hour before breakfast, nexium.
Then, be a creature of habit, and stick to the same thing each morning. Have a mild soothing breakfast and stick to it. Hot tea with honey, or one cold brew or drip filtered coffee w/only 1 Tbsp of half n half, 1 tsp sugar. 1 whole banana important!, and nature valley granola bar, or proper small serving of instant or whole grain oatmeal or wheat toast. 1 small greek yogurt. Stay away from acidic OJ in the morning.

Lunch habit: small 1/2 sandwich of basic turkey, swiss, ham cheddar, or chicken salad. Singe tomato slice, or cuke, or lettuce. Dry chips or an apple or carrot sticks. Diet coke or seltzer water, or plain iced tea.

3PM can add another fruit/chips/iced coffee, or little protein bar like Think.

This should get you through the work day with zero bathroom trips. Also, lay off alcohol past 7PM, esp beer. Give the nexium about 2 weeks to start doing the magic.

>>21608065
and take a multivitamin. extra vitamin d is probably a good idea too.

>>21608058
>I developed malnutrition and doctors kept missing that somehow.
That doens't make sense anon. Whole grains and legumes might have some antinutrient factor but the refined counterpart lose on average 80% (and 100% of vit E which is contained in the germ) of minerals and vitamine

> I'm pretty sure I have an issue with lectins or something and all of those things are high in it.

Everithing you would normally consume doesn't have a significant amount of lectins to interfere with your health unlesse you consume raw soy (also, lectins are also studied foe their health benefict, especially in cancer prevention since they chelate heavy metals contained in food)

The symptoms you described are 90% consistent with a too sudden increasing of fibers also without the increase in water consumption

> There's probably a reason most cultures traditionally sprouted and fermented grains/nuts/beans/seeds/legumes and didn't always just consume them the way we do now.

who told you to not sprout of ferment them? soaking for a day is enough to get rid of saponins and lectines and also start the activity of phytases ti free minerals (which you don't have in refined cereals)

I just do the following
> for whole grain cereal
soak them in water for around 24h (or even 2 days if for whatever reason I can't eat them that day or want a more vigorous fermentation )
cook them with their soaking water
> for legumes
soak 24h or more
get rid of soaking water

You can also sprout non-solanacee vegetables but it takes more effort and time

>>21608086
>Whole grains and legumes might have some antinutrient factor
They were giving me diarrhea for years. Constant diarrhea can lead to malnutrition.

>Everithing you would normally consume doesn't have a significant amount of lectins
Maybe I'm just more sensitive to them. If I ate beans or oats my stomach would just start burning.

>a too sudden increasing of fibers
I ate the way you described for years and it never got better

>who told you to not sprout of ferment them?
Nobody, but that's frequently how they're consumed. I would like to try sprouted beans or real sourdough at some point but at least for right now I don't seem to be able to tolerate those things.

>>21608115
> Constant diarrhea can lead to malnutrition.
yes it can. But malnutrition happens most likely if you eat food that hasn't minerals and vitamins, and that is the case for refined cereals

> . If I ate beans or oats my stomach would just start burning.
that could happen because you stopped consuming it regularly as I got from your posts

> I ate the way you described for years and it never got better
Are you saying you were malnutrited for years and didn't die?

> Nobody, but that's frequently how they're consumed.
And since you knew that why the hell you didn't do it?
while grain cereals fermentation is spontaneous, you just need to soak them and leave outside the fridge for a sufficient amount of time. 20h is sufficient to start the fermentation, 2 days is guaranteed to be in a vigorous fermentation state

lectins and saponins of legumes goes in the soaking water you don't consume

sprouting is also a good process to increase bioavailability of nutrients but it takes more than 3 days and you have to wash the cereals 2 times a day and let them drain to prevent mold
If you have time and patient it's a good habit, but I rarely do it and prefer spontaneous fermentation before consumption

>>21608115
>https://www.mdpi.com/2304-8158/10/11/2796
>We reported lectin activities with the NTT and the TT hemagglutination assay for several plant products before and after preparation. The Danish national recommendations on soaking and boiling times were tested in this work and showed a complete inactivation of lectins in beans

>>21608115
btw, if you don't write a list what you ate in a average week we can't tell if there's something wrong with you or you're just retarded

>>21608075
Positive feelings and the balance of serotonin can positively influence gut microbiota and lowering stress can greatly relieve tension and gastrointestinal contractions. Stop being so pent up and uppity about things you don't know about.

>>21608081
It's extremely weird how your advice is hyperspecific, but you give no reasoning behind your recommendations.

>>21608086
I'm just curious what you think diarrhea is, since you didn't actually address the crux of his point at all

>>21608151
I know what diarrhea is. I just don't think it can lead to malnutrition for mineral and vitamin deficiency worse than eating things that **don't** contain said mineral and vitamins in the first place

I'm also assuming (but that's a conjecture) that as any other IBS person, his diet consist of a very limited variety of foods that should contributes more to malnutrition

So I don't think he solved his malnutrition state by switiching to food that contains insufficient quantities of minerals and vitamins

>>21608155
Oh, okay. Just so you know, reality doesn't operate on what you think. You're objectively incorrect.

>>21608158
well explain to me how it works. Does your body produce essential vitamins and minerals?

The diarrhead induce malnutriton works by not letting you digest correctly and absorb minerals and vitamins in food.
How can you improve your essential micronutrients intake by eating foods that DON'T contains those?

>>21608132
>But malnutrition happens most likely if you eat food that hasn't minerals and vitamins, and that is the case for refined cereals
I was eating whole grains and beans, I did not eat much refined cereals.

>that could happen because you stopped consuming it regularly as I got from your posts
I was eating it regularly.

>Are you saying you were malnutrited for years and didn't die?
Yes but I did become extremely sick and was pretty sure I was going to die soon a few years ago.

>And since you knew that why the hell you didn't do it?
I only recently realized what the problem might've been.

>>21608140
Yeah I know it can help, I just haven't tried it yet and don't feel comfortable doing so yet.

>>21608140
I made homemade whole wheat bread or ate whole wheat pasta, beans, fruit, cheese, meat/fish, nuts, yogurt/kefir, vegetables. I was eating pretty much how the above posts describe and had basically a perfect diet. I ate very little junk food. I did not overeat any one thing. I did not consume much tea or coffee or alcohol or smoke or vape.

>>21608155
Anon diarrhea is an extremely common cause of malnutrition. Electrolyte loss is the most common immediate concern but if it goes on for years it can lead to other deficiencies. It was also making me feel too sick to eat at times because my stomach would hurt too much or I'd have headaches or whatever. It makes you not absorb things properly and it inflames your intestines making proper absorption harder too.

>>21605489
IBS can be cured. What people do not realize, is MSG is hidden in a lot of food. They even lobbied so they can add it without using the name MSG.

MSG causes IBS. My brother had IBS and would have flares ups, until we found out it was MSG. Once he stopped eating MSG, no more flare ups.

Yogurt is your best friend. Try to mainly drink water also.

>>21608164
>Anon diarrhea is an extremely common cause of malnutrition
No it's not. it's a common cause of death in extremely poor condition. If you have constant diarrhea you'll die of electrolyte imbalance way before developing malnutrition. Prolonged diarrhea is an acute life-threatening condition you can't have for years and most of the time it's a sign of lethal illnesses that kills you (like colon-rectum cancer)

>>21608172
>No it's not.
Yes, it is. Plenty of reputable sources will confirm this.

I didn't mean I had diarrhea constantly every day for years. But I would have it at least once a week, and then every so often I'd get a lot worse with constipation and then severe diarrhea after because of what seemed to have been low potassium. But it was probably like maybe 1/3 of the time at the most I was pooping somewhat normally, then the rest of the time was diarrhea or constipation and it had been like that for most of my life.

>>21608185
>I had diarrhea constantly every day for years
>it had been like that for most of my life
Let me guess, you're american?

>>21608150
>It's extremely weird how your advice is hyperspecific, but you give no reasoning behind your recommendations.
Nexium lowers the amount of your gastric juices, oatmeal is soluble type of fiber, meaning it isn't bulk designed to pass through without plumping up and soothing your lining all the way down. It also grabs onto fats, which is part of the messed up metabolism of some folks, esp with gall bladder contributions to the issue. yogurt adds probiotics, to increase overall gut health and immune system. acidic coffee is an irritatnt, as is OJ. Habits/routines like eating the same things that don't bother you, and not varying your fiber and randomness, at least in the mornings/midday makes your shit predictable, not inconvenient.
If my advice doesn't help, then you are avoiding your own medical diagnoses.

>>21608193
Let me guess uhhh stfu??

>>21605476 (OP)
I am prescribed Lansoprazole and Naproxen.
Basically removes stomach acid and appetite.
But I did used to have bad reflux, needed 2 rennies before bed.

>>21608207
Based

>>21605476 (OP)
I do love International Beer Stouts. Why would I want to off myself?

>>21608075
You need friends or family to escort you to your colonoscopys.
It also makes it easier to it unpoisoned home cooked meals

>>21608149
>positive feelings can influence your gut biome.
Yep, you're a fresh air boomer. Keep that lucky stone in your pocket I'm sure it will continue to fight off cancer.

>>21608443
This attitude is why you have irritable bowel syndrome.

>>21605476 (OP)
I'm currently in the reintroduction phase of the FODMAP diet, and it's genuinely been life-changing. I had/have IBS-C, where I would get bloating, gas, pain, and constipation. Except for one time when I accidentally had some gluten-free pasta with pea flour, I haven't had any symptoms at all. But even since then I've managed to successfully reintroduce GOS, so I'm hopeful that I'll be able to return to a normal diet one day. Maybe just without garlic and/or onion, which I'm still nervous about reintroducing over the next few weeks.

One theory I have is that dehydration makes IBS worse. The reason I think so is because eating too many carbs without water during exercise can cause an osmotic effect, where water is drawn into your gut and can cause cramps. But that seems pretty similar (I've experienced both) to my IBS cramps. So if I have any problems with reintroduction, I'm going to try the same thing again but with massive amounts of water and see if it reduces my symptoms.

>>21605510
This is really not good advice, sorry anon. Many vegetables and nuts can cause IBS symptoms. Just going into it with a mindset of "whole foods = healthy" doesn't work for our specific medical condition.

>>21608443
positive feelings quite literally impact your bowels big time. periods of stress with no dietary changes make my colitis bleed like crazy to the point im shitting fruit punch but in times of elation and joy with friends it vanishes.

>>21608071
>About half of people who claim to have IBS just have shitty diets for example and are the sort of people who lie not only to doctors but to themselves about what they eat not helped by modern goyslop food. Ditto a large number of people diagnosed with ADHD just had shitty parents or were on the very young end of the age group for their year (statistically speaking children born one day before hard school year cut-offs are hugely more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD, those born just one day after are the least likely).
Not true all the time.

Sure goyslop is very irritating but they sneak these chemicals in everything that you wouldn't know, sometimes they don't list this as an ingredient in whatever you buy.

Sometimes it gets so bad that it already left permanent damage on your digestion and will need some medication to fix it back to normal if possible.

>>21605476 (OP)
>fast sundays
>probiotics with every meal
>intermittent fasting
>no grains
>only the highest end dairy
>LOW OR NO OXALATE VEGETABLES (must be cooked in some way)

>>21608656
Funnily enough, the FODMAP diet has made it incredibly hard to eat goyslop. Literally every fast food restaurant fills everything with garlic and onion, so my only takeaway options are:
>Grill'd (chicken only, GF bun, some items removed)
>Grilled fish and plain chips, with no other sides
>Plain McDonald's chips
I can't even eat chips from my local takeaway place, because chicken salt has garlic and onion. On days when we just have no time, my family will get takeaways and I'll just eat a bag of rice and a big can of tuna. It's pretty miserable watching them eat delicious goyslop in front of me.

>>21605476 (OP)
i take 1 tbsp of oil every morning

>>21605476 (OP)
>Have IBS and Lactose intolerance
The fuck do I do

>>21608738
Git yerself somma that lactase enzyme virus.
https://youtu.be/aoczYXJeMY4?si=Ehun1Rf28PtO8WKw

>>21607532
I'm pretty much in the realm of PI-IBS from some fucking shrimp in May. I was given antibiotics and then it turned into like yellow watery shits, cramps, mucus when wiping, pain, farts, stomach issues, shits few times a day that was like soft ice cream. It's now been almost 5 months and I got solid brown shits again, but still got stomach gurling, some oil sheen in the water when I shit, some cramps once a day or so and maybe a very tiny shit after the first shit in the morning rarely. I did all the tests blood, stool, thyroid, did endoscopy and colonoscopy everything was clear, pancreas clear, CBC clear. I don't got any of the symptoms for bile acid malabsorption, just likely my system is still fast. I'm hoping by November like you I'm all good. I'm eating as healthy as I can, haven't touch any fast food, soft drinks, processed meats, nothing. Fruits and veggies, yogurts. I'm going to be branching to those probiotic foods soon like kimchi, sauerkraut, kombucha and see how that goes. I'm really hoping I'm done with this in that 6-7 months range.

I developed IBS in my 20s after a lifetime of a healthy high fiber diet. Here are my triggers:
>Leafy greens, especially ones washed with antibiotic solution (such as bagged greens)
>donuts
>cake
>muffins
>MSG, hydrolized soy protein, etc
>many (but not all) brands of ice cream. Ones with particular binders and gums are the worst
>overly greasy foods like slop chili
>apples in any form, even juice
>grapes
>blackberries and raspberries
>wheat based breakfast cereals

I have had every test known to man. I'm not allergic to gluten, my gallbladder is fine, all my bloodwork is fine. I have tried every probiotic pill and liquid available. Apple cider vinegar, kefir, kombucha, etc. I've tried steroids and antibiotics. My body just can't handle fiber and grease anymore.

>>21608889
Have you considered the FODMAP diet?

>>21608947
Yes, it's basically what I live on but with some key exceptions. There is stuff on the FODMAP list that I absolutely cannot eat like grapes and blueberries. Tomatoes give me trouble sometimes too, but not always.

>>21608981
Blueberries are a pretty rare one, I know lots of people with food problems and you're the first person I've ever heard of with a blueberry problem. Sorry anon, sucks to be you I guess.

I avoided grapes and tomatoes entirely during the FODMAP diet. I think it's the kind of thing you really have to go completely 100% strict with, because you're probably nuking all of your gut bacteria for a while. It's not meant to be a long-term thing.
But even 3 grapes or half a tomato are over the limit. So it's not uncommon at all to have problems with them.

>>21609010
Is that an app? I've never seen it broken down like that.

>>21609039
It's just the original FODMAP app made by Monash Uni. It's pretty much impossible to follow the diet without the app or something similar. In your case you should probably see a dietitian though, because you have issues other than just FODMAPs. It's an incredibly restrictive diet if you follow it properly, so adding any other restrictions on top warrants professional help.

>>21605476 (OP)
You may want to try a diet that's low in FODMAPs. Some people can't process some of the sugars in fruit/veggies. Most common offender are onions but some can't process artificial sugar alternatives. There's a FODMAP app for your phone that can help you identify the worst offenders and avoid or limit their serving size to get less GI issues.

>>21605645
I had post infectious IBS for like 7 years after getting food poisoning from Chipotle during the outbreaks in 2015.

It wasn't just having to take a shit. It was awful, agonizing pain randomly through my entire gut. Randomly and for no reason. I tried like 3 different elimination diets. No idea why it went away but it was awful

>be out at a house party
>need to take a shit so badly that I will absolutely shit my pants, but the toilet is destroyed
>there's no TP so I scrounge together some tissues out of the trash, it was awful and I was scared shitless I gave myself the herp from somebody blowing a cold sore into one
>have to ride home in the car with qt who went with us, I'm not doing very hot but she's into me and texting me on the way back
>get back to friend's place, desperately need to take another shit and clog the toilet at 1AM and he doesn't have a fucking plunger
>she's outside the door waiting for her turn, her mood changes and she's now obviously disinterested and doesn't talk to me the next day at all

FUCK YOU CHIPOTLE

Ever since I had a case of food poisoning I've started having off and on problems with constipation and bloating/abdominal pain/gas/gurgling, fairly mild and manageable but still there. Sometimes I see white stuff mixed into my stool and what looks like mucus on the toilet paper and this is probably the most concerning symptom. Odds on it being IBS vs. I'm dying of cancer or something? The only reason I don't worry about the latter more is because the start of the symptoms correlates so strongly to me getting sick and what I've read suggests IBS can be triggered after GI infections.

>>21609054
It's criminal how they charge for the app

>>21609324
I think many anons here would be wise to do a candida/parasite cleanse. Overgrowth of pathogens in the gut can be the root cause of many issues like IBS.
You can buy parasite cleanse supplements or DIY with a few cheap ingredients like cloves, Nigella seeds and NAC. This is basically the "Cosmic Death Fungus" protocol, you can search 4plebs for the full PDF about it.
N-acetylcysteine is a mucolytic medicine and this helps thin the mucus in the gut where bacteria and fungus hide out.
Cloves and Nigella kill the pathogens once their mucus barrier is weakened.
Not a nice topic for /ck/ but neither is IBS.
Get well soon /ck/!

>>21609444
Can you show some actual doctors who agree with you on this?

>>21609451
There's a whole section of health care that focused on treating the root cause of chronic disorders like IBS, it's called "Functional Medicine". Big Pharma hates it.
Here's Dr Hyman podcast on the root causes of IBS:
https://drhyman.com/blogs/content/podcast-hc22/

>>21609444
Parasites are the latest meme boogie men that people blame everything on. Imagine going to the archives of 4chan and looking up a recipe for parasite cleanse and actually putting that stuff in your body because some random people on the cooking board or fitness board of an anime website told you to.

>>21609468
Can you cite any actual doctors who aren't YouTube personalities that sell supplements and diet books?

>>21609468
>Mark Hyman
>Has literally written 18 different diet books.
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and not listen to this grifter.

>>21609470
What are you unclear about?
Pathogens can be the root cause of digestive disorders, fungus and bacteria overgrowth could be responsible for IBS, there are supplements you can take that are cheaply available. Might as well consider it if you're suffering. Do your own research I guess. That's what I do.
>>21609469
Cloves and nigella are common spices you can buy at the grocery store.
I have a huge collection of "Candida diet" books and recipes that go into autistic details about the antifungal properties of enzymes, phenols and terpenes of each ingredient in the recipe with links to peer-reviewed studies but I don't think /ck/ would be that interested.

Consider a detox/cleanse, that's all I ask. It worked for me, it might help you too.

>>21609483
Okay, so take that as a no.

>>21609483
Okay, so I'll take that as a no.

>>21605476 (OP)
My travel buddy has severe IBS and it seriously hinders our trips
I'm talking like 60 minute shits at least twice a day
I love the guy but it gets seriously annoying being caught in a foreign country waiting for this guy to shit all the fucking time

>>21609494
>60 minute shits
Severe constipation or severe diarrhea? That sounds hellish either way.

>>21609497
If you take two to three shits a day and you're "constipated", you can cut my legs in half and call me shorty

>>21609505
Ok

>>21605555
more like
>i be shittin

>>21609505
you can sit on the toilet for an hour and only push out a few hard lumps. that can happen multiple times in a day and that would be considered constipation. constipation doesn't mean not going at all.

>>21608729
>the FODMAP diet has made it incredibly hard to eat goyslop
It is so true. Even grilled chicken breast is pretty saturated in brines and seasonings with garlic and onions, and more. I find that steak+ hold the seasoning is unbothered meat before a chef cooks it.

OP, get your hands on a low FODMAP foods list just to have more ideas for "eat this, not that" vegetable choices when shopping and choosing off a restaurant menu.

>>21609267
yikes. People actually died from those famous cases of e.coli food poisoning. Did you ever eat there again? I returned to them eventually. But I've never forgiven Blue Bell for the listeria deaths. They had multiple failed inspection warnings and mopnths of deaths before they got forced to act and do a recall.

>mandatory in-office meetings all next week
>8 am - 8 pm
How fucked am I IBroS?

>>21605496
>>21605518
Anon, do you know how to read? That's the entire point of the thread.

>>21610040
100%meetings + 50%IBS

Im not sure if its related to ibs but I had loads of digestion/health issues and then I tried keto and it made life easier with not having extensive gas/toilet session issues.

>>21608656
So what you're saying is a lot of cases are caused by eating modern goyslop. Which is exactly what I said.

>>21608729
Sounds like FODMAP is beneficial not necessarily because of the intended reason but because it means no goyslop. In the same sort of way that almost any diet can make someone lose weight just by dint of controlling calorie intake as a side-effect of some sort of schizo ruleset.

>>21610127
I had some relief on keto but felt tired all the time. It did help me figure out it's not all carbs that are the issue but specifically grains/beans. Keto usually says nuts are okay though and they cause the same problems.

>>21605489
>greek yogurt
You almost learned something. You need to be gut biome maxxing. You need to be having the kefir, the kraut, the natto, the fucking pic related. Every single day, empty stomach, live culture fermented foods.

>>21605476 (OP)
Faste 20-48 hours at a time. I do not have IBS. This is spiritual advice; not medical advice.

>>21608729
FODMAP diet is not meant to be done long term it is just a short term treatment. I would speak to more doctors and search for more answers

>>21610675
>FODMAP diet is not meant to be done long term
what

>>21610692
He's right
>>21610675
I'm the person you're replying to, and I'm aware of that. I'm currently in the reintroduction stage (which takes much longer than the exclusion stage). Another one of my posts ITT is this:
>>21608638
Day 2 of grain food fructans today, and no issues so far. I miss pasta so much it's unreal.

>>21605568
what a retarded comment