Thread 21612062

What extremely unique or unusual whiskies have you really enjoyed?

>>21612062 (OP)
Willett purple top single barrels, too expensive to recommend, but if you want a unique bourbon, it's got funk.

Wouldn't say it's unique but I'm really enjoying this one

>>21611551
I've mixed with $500+ bottles, drink however you want to drink.

>>21612842
What cocktails work best with a high shelf whiskey?

Bunnahabhain 12 CS Batch 3 is first pour I've had in a while

anybody heard anything about this years CS?

>>21613273
Truly men's hour.

>>21613257
The old pal

>>21612842
ok this is the part of the thread where I call you a retard, then you say I’m poor, then I say needlessly wasting money is actually poorfag behavior and allude to africans, then you double down and say wasting doesn’t matter if you’re not poor, others may chime in but at the end of the day you’re objectively masking the subtle notes and engaging in diminishing returns and we’ll never get through to each other
there i saved 5-10 posts of this thread

>>21613728
See you're approaching whiskey from a "value" perspective which in my mind doesn't exist.

Whisky is whisky, enjoy it however you want. I'd personally always recommend drinking ANY whisky you've never had before straight before doing anything else with it. But as long as you've tried it straight first, feel free to mix it however you want. You can get fantastic cocktails with high shelf whisky, just because YOU prefer sipping it straight doesn't make you any better than someone else.

Your preferences, your opinions, your habits, they're all yours and (should be) irrelevant to everyone else.

I'm not here to tell you how to enjoy your whisky, only to tell you that YOU don't get to decide how I enjoy mine, or anyone else's.

Fuck post-modernism.
There are objective rights and wrongs.

Yeah, it's objective that whisky with a drop of watter always tastes better

gonna ask the liquor store bro if he'll start carrying old tub. never had it but i think it might be my favorite

>>21613757
>neatfags be like

>>21613960
I think it got discontinued. They didn't have it at the distillery when I went about 2 months ago.

What’s a good Irish whiskey to try if I like greenspot and black barrel. Usually drink rye but tried Irish whiskey recently and like it.

>>21614904
Red breast and Dingle are my go to along with greenspot.

>>21613997
You're not taking small enough of sips if it burns too much.

>>21614904
I had Green Spot and Redbreast side by side and Redbreast absolutely mogged it.

>>21613755
>"value" perspective which in my mind doesn't exist
bro lives outside the corporeal realm
>YOU don't get to decide how I enjoy mine
it's true i don't, but i DO get to cringe at it
let us cease this discussion for i grow weary of its infinite repeats

>>21613760
>watter

The Local Jewel osco has some of the JD heritage Toasted for sale. Should I buy at MSRP?

>>21616352
seems to be a pretty sought-after bottle and I've heard it's good, I'd grab it

I wonder how many crossposters there are between this and /lit/'s /wg/

>>21612458
Beavis and Butthead approve.

Rye is the whiskey distillers actually prefer for themselves.

>>21617425
Went make broad statement that are obviously false?

You could've at least tried to make it believable by saying MANY distillers prefer rye, though even that would be unsourced and likely bullshit, at least it's plausible.

>>21617842
>Went
Why

>>21612062 (OP)
Fairly new in the whiskey journey and I have loved Laphraoig 10 so far. I have tried a decent amount of things, some bourbons, ryes, a couple Irish, and one Japanese. Is there any specific direction I should go at this point? Frankly, I'd be fine sipping on what I've tried so far, but I feel like I should look for specific flavors that really suit me. An example is that I also like oaked flavors, am only so-so about sherry, and prefer pot stills if I'm going to have an Irish. Maybe expand on my rye knowledge? I want to try more Japanese as well, due to their unique wood flavors, but they are often quite expensive.

>>21618108
Find a style you like and dive deeper into whisky within that style until you find something you REALLY like.

>>21618141
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Scotch, of course, gets a bit expensive so it'll be a slow process. If I like Laph 10, where should I go from there? Beyond just, 10+X, I mean.

>>21618154
>If I like Laph 10, where should I go from there?
Ardbeg, Kilchoman, Port Charlotte, Longrow, Springbank.

>>21612458
Love the kicking chicken!

Is Bookers worth $125? I've yet to see it locally until now but the price seems steep.
They also have Knob Creek 12 which I've wanted to try for a while but for $90. I figured I'd be disappointed since I didn't particularly enjoy KC8 anyway.

>>21618203
I'm not a huge fan of Bookers, and there's so many of them. I'd find a bar that has it and try it first. KC12 is fantastic and absolutely worth getting but that price is pretty steep, I've gotten it for $60-$70

>>21618214
same experience here...I usually see kc12 for about $70, although I saw it once at costco for $59....sold out very quickly
Bookers I tend to see for around $90

>>21618203
I quite enjoyed my bookers, though I paid $86.

Picked up a bottle of pic related on sale for 30 bucks and I quite like it. Never really been interested in Irish whiskey before, but those micks seem to know what they're doing.

>>21618354
Single pot still for 30 seems like a great value. I'm guessing this isn't US?

>>21618491
NTA, but this is my local pricing in the US

>>21618497
Way more appropriate! Powers Gold isn't too bad though, for the cheapy Irish option for me. I've heard Irish is going to get back into peat as well, know of any?

i will stick with buffalo trace as long as costco keeps selling it. not the best bourbon ever but probably the best for the price. i wouldn’t pay non-costco prices for it tho. i’ve seen liquor stores trying to sell a .750l for what costco sells a 1.75. fuck that shit

>>21618515
Locally, it seems to be going down here in NJ, to the point of me almost wanting to buy it and try it. $45 currently, but sells out in about 2 days.

>>21618527
i’m a leaf so i don’t have access to the bourbon selection an american does, but it isn’t very popular here so i literally have never gone to costco and not seen it since the first time i have seen it there. sometimes i even get blantons, but not very often

broke as a joke but the store has ec bp for $70
what do you tihnk

>>21618535
When I was broke as a joke, I was drinking on-sale $16 1.75L JTS Brown, but putting it into a couple glass decanters. Be realistic about your budget or you'll regret it.

>>21618535
Decent price for me at least

My local has ECBP at ~$80-85 normally. If they've got a lot left then it will go on sale for ~$55-65.

>>21618559
thanks yea i guess it's not worth it if i'm paying interest

>>21618590
>if i'm paying interest
you mean tax...?

>>21618606
I think he means he's paying debt every month.

>>21618491
I'm in the US, it was a closeout deal

Wild turkey bib is better than buffalo trace.

>>21618964
You mean WT101?
But yeah, BT is shit because its mash bill is low rye and thus boring.

>>21612458
Great budget blaster, it's like OGD 114 for half the price

>>21618991
>13% rye
>5.5% less alcohol
It's nothing like OGD 114.

>>21618994
You couldn't tell in a blind

>>21619164
absolutely could

>>21618354
dont fuck with the irish when it comes to liquor

>>21618511
nta but only Teeling Blackpits and Connemara come to mind

>>21618535
do it just so you can get the dissatisfaction out of your system

>>21618877
wish my place would do some closeouts on scotch instead of meme bourbons

>>21618354
That's a crazy value for a 46% single pot still with a cask finish.
I jelly.

Looking for some new scotches to try and expand my selection. Here are the ones I normally go to for reference.

1. Laphraoig
2. The McCallan
3. Springbank 10 (When I'm feeling fancy)
4. Black label (When I'm feeling cheap)
5. the Balvenie caribbean cask

Any recommendations?

>>21619975
>McCallan
Glendronach so you can taste what a real sherried Scotch tastes like.

>>21619983
What do these usually go for?

>>21620004
Less than Macallan, that's for damn sure.

>>21614904
The Powers line is pretty good, even the base Gold is pretty good. The one people will recommend is generally John's Lane, but the Three Swallows is good as well. For me, I only like Pot Stills for Irish, with some rare exceptions like Tully's Caribbean Cask.

>>21619983
>>21619975
What's the cheapest scotch you guys go for? I've heard here that Dewar's really isn't that bad.

>>21619975
>The McCallan
It's a testament to human stupidity that people still buy this

>>21620042
If i want cheap, i go Irish.

>>21620042
Glenfiddich 12 when it's on sale is about as cheap as I go for scotch in the US.

Which is $40-45.

Anything less is either a blend, or dogshit.

>>21620004
Multiple <$50 options for Glendronach 12 on Wine Searcher right now.
Costco sometimes has it and it will always be under $50 there.
>>21620042
Yeah Dewars is very drinkable.

>>21620082
>>21620032
cool. I'll check it out.

>>21620042
depends on what's on sale. I got a Monkey shoulder the other months for $15 after an in store sale and a Mail in rebate

>>21620082
>Dewars
>>21620090
>Monkey shoulder

>blends
no

>>21620094
Dewars is fine.
Monkey Shoulder and Johnnie Walker are shit, but Dewars is totally fine for the money. You can get a fucking handle at Costco for under $20. It's perfectly acceptable at that price.

>>21620058
To me, Glenfiddich 12 was just not that flavorful. I should try it again though.

>>21620094
$15 for MS is probably the only time to acceptably buy a bottle.

>>21620105
I wouldn't pay $15 for it as it tastes like perfume.

New liquor store just opened nearby.


No idea why they have over 1200 bottles of BT.

>>21620295
Stir up hype? I simply don't believe it, depending where you live.

>>21620319
They're government-run, everything is sold at MSRP, and any profit the business makes has to be reinvested back into the liquor budget, so I don't see what they get from "hype".

They've also got a bunch of tater bait bottles
The Willetts are about $500-600 each and the double eagle is just under $4000 each.

>>21620295
could be a typo

>>21620329
Could be, but this is what makes me think it's legit

> For the special HAL release at the grand opening of the store on Sept. 25, purchases will be restricted to a total of one bottle per customer, except Buffalo Trace, which will have no restrictions.

>>21620333
maybe, what state and area? Because even then 1200 is a bunch

>>21620295
every store is getting massive amounts of BT now
it used to be allocated here but now my local stores have crates of the stuff with no limit and its just sitting

>>21620346
Montgomery County Maryland.

Last time I checked they spent ~$220-250M/year on buying liquor for the county. And will likely reach $300M/year soon.

>>21620356
Fuck man. I was pissed I had to go to DC each week for work for a spell, and a friend who lived in Rockville let me crash and saved me a ton of money on hotels. But I was around that Fallsgrove place. Luckily I'm back to fully remote.

I remember seeing a $60,000 bottle of Scotch in a Total Wine.
Do bourbons ever sell that high?

>>21621371
Also, it was a 50 year Balvenie, which is funny to me because that wouldn't taste much different than a vodka aged in a cask for 50 years.

>>21620098
>Glenfiddich 12
I've found this to be incredibly inconsistent. Some bottles have wonderful flavor and a spicy kick to them that makes it easily worth it. Other bottles are so bland and flavorless I could taste it side by side with JW Red and found the latter more interesting and drinkable. I don't trust people who outright hate it because there's a reasonable chance they just had some from a bad batch.

hope they send some of that buffalo trace down to FL
you see it on the shelves sometimes but it doesn't stay there for long

>>21621371
Yes, though it would be a unicorn dusty or something similar like that.

For example Old Rip Van Winkle 25 Year Old released in 2017 was a limited 3 barrel production run of some very old juice and had a special bottle and shit, with how few of them got produced, and their age makes them very expensive, in the $50+ range.

>>21621753
>$50+ range
$50k+ range

>>21617842
Filtered.

>>21621772
I primarily drink rye, you're just wrong.

>>21621401
I'll give it another try if I see it at a good price then, you've convinced me.

>>21621753
I bet it tastes like shit lol. 18 years is pretty much the upper limit for bourbon before it starts tasting like you're gnawing on an oak chest in your grandpa's attic (there's some people who claim to like this, but I think they're full of shit)

>>21621627
It used to be like that in my area but now I see it all the time. Usually costs 40-45 there are a lot of other bottles competing at this price range.

>>21621919
I like Woodford Reserve Double Oaked a lot but that seems to be at the edge of what is too astringent for my taste.

>>21622087
have you had the double double oaked?

>>21622094
I have not. Quite pricey for something I suspect may be too astringent for my taste.
I'd have tried it by now if it was $<100, but I can buy four bottles of something I absolutely adore at its price.

>>21622087
>>21622094
Different guy, loved the Double Oaked, been looking for a double double at a decent price. I'll buy it for myself at Christmas if I don't find one till then.

What’s your pick

>>21622830
The 12 is in my opinion the best value by far, the 15 and 18 are good, just not really "worth" the increase over the 12.
I've not personally been able to try the Lustau but it's supposedly solid, so maybe worth getting over the 12.

>>21622830
seems high. what state?

I'd say if you cant have the 27 year then ge the 12 Cask Strength.

>>21622850
I’ve only had the 12 year and it was really good. I’d like to try some of the others.
>>21622868
This liquor store has a lot of selection but their prices are insane. You can’t find the other varieties of redbreast at most other places but you can get 12 year for ~65 at a decent place.

anyone else sipping the macallan 2nite

>>21623080
about the only time i'll drink Macallan is if i'm at a restaurant and someone else is paying.

>>21623087
my brother got me this for my birthday :) it's good

Smells good. Everything after the Black album was ass

Catoctin creek hot honey rye. That shit is delicious

>>21622830
Only tried the 12 but didn't really see what the hype is all about, the flavors were really mild and nondescript. Maybe it was a crappy bottle, does Redbreast have a tendency to be inconsistent?

>>21625133
It's relatively flavorful for an Irish whiskey, but it IS an Irish whiskey, and Irish whiskies are less flavorful on average than Scotches because they are triple distilled.
Redbreast's texture/mouthfeel is actually a big part of its appeal. It's almost creamy and it's lovely.

>>21625133
i've had 5 or 6 bottles in the last 4-5 years and it has always been a hit with me.

>>21625136
>almost creamy
I think I know exactly what you're describing but I didn't get that from the Redbreast I had at all, maybe it really was a shitty bottle/batch.

>>21625167
Every bottle I've had of Redbreast has tasted the same to me and had that creamy mouthfeel, and I've had many bottles of it.

>>21625167
I had a bottle of redbreast 12 that was delicious. So I got another bottle but at cask strength and it is nothing alike, frankly not very good imo (and I mostly drink cask strength bourbons). But I've only read good things about the cask strength so maybe it was just a bad bottle

>>21624410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mkq6GFLIsk

>>21625140
it's for your own good. you're letting precious volatiles dissipate by leaving bottles open for so long and opening even more. youre wife just wants you to enjoy whiskey properly

>>21625412
So why do so many people have massive collections and take months to finish drinking an opened bottle?

>>21625465
it happened to me because i went from drinking often to hardly having an ounce per week (or less) because of an ulcer but i kept the habit of opening bottles as soon as i got them out of excitement. ended up with about 60 open bottles

got it back in line and vowed to never have more than a few bottles open

>>21625465
drinking too much is bad for you, but having lots to drink is never a bad thing. - some guy at some point in the last couple hundred years

>>21625140
time to make her disappear

>>21625484
>opening bottles as soon as i got them out of excitement
>ended up with about 60 open bottles
literally me except idk if I’ll make that vow. I like having a massive variety at my fingertips
also suffer from:
>buy new bottle and relentlessly drink from it
>shit it’s almost gone and once it’s gone it’s gone I’ll save some and switch to something else
>hardly ever get in the mood to drink it again

>>>/mu/127886263
>>>/mu/127886263

Can you guys recommend me two whiskys? Around 50$ or less each. One smokey and one with a lot of sherry taste.

>>21626328
Aberlour 12 for the sherry
Ardbeg 5 or 10 for the peat/smoke.

>>21626364
Ty

>>21626328
just get 1 bottle of ardbeg uigedail for $100

>>21626379
Ardbeg is too inconsistent to pay any premium for it.

>>21626328
do you have access to total wine?

>>21626609
Im a Europoor so I don’t think so. I’ve been lurking /wg/ and want to expand my palate a bit. I’m usually drinking Macallan or Suntory, basically anything thats a major brand.

>>21613257
high end whiskeys taste different one to another
most scotch tastes best with soda + lemon including high end single malts the peatier the better

>>21626328
Laphroaig 10 and Glendronach 12.

>>21626695
mainland euro I cant say but UK ought to have the best availability. total wine is even limited in the states. unfortunately expanding your palate is going to cost more and trying to find new flavors within the context of scotch will be virtually futile unless you start investing in auction offerings.

Gotta age sclotch for bare minimum 10 years or add soda and lemon so it doesn't make you wanna kill yourself meanwhile the youngest 4 year bottom shelf blourbon mogs

>>21627154
New oak versus used oak.
But no, there are plenty of great NAS Scotches.

Irish whiskey > scotch

>>21627154
>so it doesn't make you wanna kill yourself
back to the bourbon baby formula for you, kiddo
I regularly drink 5 year heavily peated scotch, fucking delicious

>>21627378
Wee beastie is solid

>>21627024
>futile unless you start investing in auction offerings
na

>>21627408
Yeah honestly it's perfectly fine. The issue for me is that Laphraoig 10 is only a couple bucks more.

>>21627749
Sure but I find Ardbeg to be a nice peat, Laphroaig is more antiseptic. They're both decent, but I'm not personally as much of a fan of the medicinal quality Laphroaig has.

>>21627820
About 3 pours in, I started tasting the iodine as more like smoked pork, and it really opened up to me.

> Laphroaig
Speaking of, are current bottlings of quarter cask good? Can't get actual cask stregth so quarter cask is the only non-40% option for me currently.

>>21627899
I mean, I've probably a dozen bottles over the years, I just prefer Ardbeg.

>>21627906
I like them, but I also prefer 95-100 proof beverages so I may not be the best person.

>>21627207
>>21627361
I miss when non-whiskey threads weren't banned

>>21621919
>bet it tastes like shit lol. 18 years is pretty much the upper limit for bourbon
I have a very strong suspicion that can winkle shit is effectively put in a basement to minimize losses. "95.6" is a very fucking specific and suspicious proof point that makes me think it's dumping very low. During Russell's 15 dumping they were getting hazmat coming out with only dozens of bottles per barrel, and some were even empty, but wild turkey doesn't fuck around. The economics are a lot better if you effectively aren't using real rickhouses as intended, and if you were to do so, you would get a low proof whiskey that would, of course, drink much younger than the 23 year age statement

>>21617425
You guys flipflop from bullshit like this to "waaah why does every distiller only want to make 51% quasi-bourbon and hate rye" at the drop of a hat, then back again

>>21613757
>>21614924
neat room temp enjoyer here (its the only way btw)
shouldn't you dilute it with a couple of drops though? Most whiskey connoisseurs do this to release the flavor. I drop some and it sort of releases the true potential.

>>21629233
If you add water then it isn’t neat

>>21629271
https://youtu.be/DKfY4srx8Y4?t=548

>>21629271
If you drink good malts without water you are a moron

>>21629355
(You) should kys
>>21629202
>51% quasi-bourbon
same with people those who distill and consider this rye

What are some good sherry barrel finished Irish whiskeys?

>>21629751
Redbreast Lustau is a straight up sherry bomb.

>>21629233
>Most whiskey connoisseurs do this
Wrong.
>to release the flavor
It makes the guaiacol float to the top, so the first sip is more flavorful then all of the other sips are less flavorful.
It ruins the whiskey.

>Local liquor store chain doing scotch tastings every Tuesday in October
>Including brands I've always been on the fence about
good month

I bought my first whiskey last week and paired it with a delicious and refreshing Diet Coke. Let's just say I got white girl wasted hahah!

>21629848
>this midwit again
worse than a troll

>>21630115
Here you dropped this

Why does my European ass associate bourbon with autumn?

>>21629848
Don’t they add a bunch of water to bring whisky down to proof when they bottle it up ?

>>21630718
I only drink cask strength (barrel proof).

>>21629186
That's a decent theory, and it matches what I was told when I did a tasting at WT a few months ago, but everyone does it so differently and BT is so secretive about their high-end products that it's impossible to prove

>>21630737
>>21629848
>>21629578
>>21630737 nobody thinks you sound badass saying this, just retarded.


Thewhiskeybothy has 1.7k whiskey reviews and dude literally lives in Isla.
Id listen to what he says on the matter as he lives and breathes whiskey.

>https://youtu.be/Mf_QU9EmvzY?t=113

>>21631188
I think they sound like a badass

>>21631274
Interesting. What’s number 1 and why did you skip that part?

>>21631274
>taking advice from random machine-generated text

>>21631274
>for most people
>recommended
>might have
None of these things apply to me. I also don’t have a child’s palette and can handle the alcohol “burn”. My personal “sweet spot” is scotch that isn’t diluted, watered down garbage for babies.

>>21631291
if you think that text is random, you simply don't understand how it works

>>21631293
>I have a trailerpark drunk pallet
based I guess?

>>21631289
#1 is the last step before never drinking it neat again

>>21631301
I very much prefer drinking straight barrel proof whiskey.

You can do whatever you'd like, but i'm not going to stop.

For me it’s nigga whiskey from the hood

>>21631188
i dont care what this pussy faggot thinks

>>21631221
it’s not about being “badass”. no one thinks anyone is cool for drinking alcohol past highschool. does anyone see a hobo chug vodka and say wow!!!
it’s about the principal of literally watering down your beverage which is seen as just wasteful or stupid much like an americano espresso can be frowned upon or a ridiculous example of adding water to milk or something
though as I was writing this post I thought of a good case of dilution: lemon juice

>>21631188
>>21632323
>4’ mark
>burn your plastic straws so there’s no plastic waste going into the environment
holy kek

>>21632344
>no one thinks anyone is cool for drinking alcohol past highschool.
I do

>does anyone see a hobo chug vodka and say wow!!!
It’s pretty based, not gonna lie

>>21632344
>>21632678
It’s only impressive when they chug mouthwash.

>>21631274
I have no opinion on the argument but someone keeps posting gpt slop in these threads for weeks now and I hope you die

Someone give it to me straight is blended malt as good as single malt. Boomers claim only whiskey snobs can tell the difference.

>>21633764
It depends. Blended is usually a more consistent in terms of flavor while Single can be fantastic but also underwhelming depending on the specific barrel. Usually the Single Malt are higher quality but it just is a matetr of taste

>>21633764
>tell the difference
If it has grain whiskey - yeah, it's very easy to tell.
If it's a blended malt - it may be almost impossible.

>>21633764
>Someone give it to me straight is blended malt as good as single malt.
Absolutely not.
The more you blend things, the more interesting character gets blended away.
Does a random blended malt have the potential to be more interesting than a random single malt? Sure. Blend two intensely flavorful single malts together and it'll likely be more interesting than a single malt on the more delicate, flavorless side of things.
But, in general, single malts are better and have the potential to be much better by virtue of not having their interesting individual character blended away.
There are so many fantastic, interesting single malts that there is no reason to be fucking with the inferior blended malt category - especially Johnnie Walker Green Label, which just flat out tastes disgusting.

>>21631296
Thanks man :)

>>21633903
This is an oversimplification and it sounds like your experience with blended malts comes entirely from cheaper options.

Oh and your weird obsession with shitting on Diageo.

>>21634044
>it sounds like your experience with blended malts comes entirely from cheaper options.
This is incorrect.
>Oh and your weird obsession with shitting on Diageo.
Actually it was my first ever post in these threads. =)

>>21634061
It always is your first post

>make one post in whiskey thread
>already have a schizo on my ass
Sasuga 4chan.

>>21634080
Says the schizo who has to shit on JW green any chance he can.

>>21634080

he is not a schizo just a literal paid diageo shill

he tries to control the narrative by convincing people that everyone who says anything bad about diageo whiskies is the same bogeyman

he has been doing this shit for years and was banned many times for spamming threads that were basically advertisements for a diageo whiskey

just ignore him

What they took away from us

>>21634157
>ice cold
Absolutely disgusting.

>>21634150
>was banned many times
Lol

lmao even

never been banned because i'm not shilling shit you dumb faggot. I post more shit in here than you ever have. You just freak out anytime someone posts anything that could possibly be taken as pro Diageo, and especially anything Johnnie Walker.

This is easily the 3rd or fourth time i've seen you reply to yourself pretending like this just in the last year or so.

Oh, and for me? It's Talisker 10 year.

>>21633903
haha yeah johnny walker green is really gross

>>21634239
Anyone who has actually had it knows you're a moron, you realize that...right?

is JW Green amazing? Not really. But it's a solid blended malt that is affordable and available all over the world.

Are there better options? Of course. Is it top tier whisky? No. Is it "gross" or "disgusting"? Also no.

Not to mention you can go and look up dozens upon dozens of reviews on JW green by experienced whiskey drinkers and they generally agree, it's solid but nothing to write home about, which matches its price.

If you don't want me to call you out as being the same person, stop posting the same autistic opinion that generally isn't held by most people who've actually drunk JW Green.

Wow, damage control much?

>>21634272
You seemed to have dropped something, here you go >>21630146

>>21634157
I love how all the things that Boomers complain are gone are all gone because Boomers wanted them gone.

>>21634286
Not a boomer but I agree

>>21634157
Is 35mL of whisky and cold water from a vending machine worth $3.75?

>scotch drinkers hate bourbon
>majority of scotch is aged in bourbon barrels
Checkmate atheists ;)

>>21635187
1) bourbon is boring BECAUSE it's first use barrels
2) more bourbon drinkers hate scotch than the other way round i'd reckon
3) sherry cask is better anyway

>>21635244
4)most modern sherry barrels are bourbon barrels rinsed with sherry syrup and toasted

>>21612062 (OP)
is anybody seeing general prices of whisky going down a bit or is it just my imagination?

>Local hole in the wall liquor store has Laphroaig 10 for only $45
I love being a scotch fan in a bourbon market

Modern 'froig is barely worth that.

>>21635574
@grok is this true?

Going to stick my head out and say Diageo is mildly overhated. Their mass consolidation of the market in scotch is bad, as is their penchant for coloring shit unnecessarily. Like wise they go too hard on saturating the market with inconsistent quality/value yearly specials, but on the whole; most of their flagship distilleries are still good in 90% of cases. Fuck that 380$ mortlach from a couple years back though, total clown show of a release.

Had a dream I received a Daigeo bottle. Even in the dream, I poured it down the drain

>>21633045
>I have no opinion on the argument
cool then shutup
not all AI is slop, just when used incorrectly

Does anyone have a guide to nip whiskey? I’ve only tried toki and it wasn’t that good.

>>21630109
I'm literally drinking this rn with cheap supermarket cola.
>>21634172
I believe they have Laphroaig at the store, I'll get myself a bottle of that next week. I think I have already tried Ardberg at a restaurant once and it was indeed very smoky. I also have a bottle of Glenfiddich 12, I don't think it's too dissimilar from Glenfiddich 14 right?

BTW what are you guys thoughts on Tallisker?

>>21635662
Dude, they use sweeteners on casks, it's inexcusable

>>21635942
Some of it is good but all is extremely overpriced

>>21635994
>they use sweeteners on casks
My guy, that's an industry wide thing...

> Due to changes in the sherry trade, many distilleries (including Diageo and smaller ones) purchase "seasoned" casks from cooperages. These casks are specifically prepared for the whisky industry, often by having a sweet or fortified wine (like sherry, port, or wine treated with a product like paxarette, a concentrated grape-must product) run through them for a period.

>>21636024
I'm not talking about sherry seasoning(which is techically legal), i'm talking about syrups.

>>21636028
Got any proof faggot?

>>21636028
That's a pretty bold claim since it's blatantly illegal.

Contact the Guardian, i'm sure they'd love to write an exposé with the evidence you've surely collected before making such an accusation.

>>21636114
nta but isnt that what crown royal does?

>>21636138
Crown royal isn't scotch

Diageo owns a bunch of scotch brands, it's illegal to make scotch with additives like that, so making the claim Diageo is doing that is kinda wild if he doesn't have any proof, since it is 100% illegal for scotch.

>>21636145
crown is diageo though

>>21636149
Yeah, but it's not illegal, so him saying
> (which is techically legal)
in the previous post implies adding syrup IS illegal.

Which would only be true for scotch (and maybe bourbon?)

Diageo rules, talisker and lagavulin are as good as any other distilleries in the world and if I had to pick a favorite beer it would be Guinness FES also a diageo brand.

>>21636153
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1 rupee has been deposited into your account.
Sincerely,
Diageo

>>21636338
Unfathomably based

>>21636153
Takisker is a fine distiller, and Talisker 18 is my favorite. And the first time I ever bought a bottle of scotch twice. The best special releases belong to Glenmorangie’s “tale of” series, however.

>>21635911
You're an idiotic faggot and contributed nothing. Shoot yourself in the face

>>21635960
Glendronach and Glenfiddich are pretty sweet generally, but not too similar imo. Save your time and buy Ledaig whenever you want a good Talisker.

>>21636153
Their bourbon offerings are a complete joke

While it very well could be made from rejected Blanton's barrels, its not worth going out of your way for. 10 Stars out of 100 other options I could choose from the liquor store. Would be delightful if I were homeless.

i drank some whiskey tonight

As far as scotch is concerned I’m not seeing any relief at all in terms of pricing or product availability - it’s more expensive than ever and what’s worse is a lot of stuff is becoming like springbank where it’s impossible to find or sold out immediately upon release. It’s unfortunate

Currently going through a bottle of basic NAS teeling single malt. Too young, way too young. But competent.

>>21637326
Hmmm, guess it’s not so bad to go to the local whiskey tavern to have a dram of that hard to find and ridiculously expensive scotch, now is it? Everyone shitting on me in these threads, but now I’ll see you down there too, snuggling up, havin a sip. It’s okay, I won’t hold a grudge. Cheers my brother, we’re lovers of another mother (Father Time, it’s whisky time). Namaste.

i shan't be buying anything but american whiskey anymore the way prices are

Bushmills 12 is very good. Bushmills single malts are underrated.

>>21638307
the prices are shit all around

>>21638330
Too sweet. Bushmills is only good for irish coffee, and basic nas version is all you need for that.
Back in the day black bush was a great sipper, but not anymore.

>>21638792
This is bullshit and you know it. Bushmills 16 is better than all the slop MID-leton offers.

>>21639111
You are comparing piss with shit.

>>21636149
It's Canadian Rye, not Scotch. However there are Ryes from Scotland

>>21636948
>seething coping brainlet goes on a tantrum
dont forget the meds lil gup

They had Redbreast 12 and Woodford Reserve Double Oaked at Costco today (and a couple Macallans and a bunch of Diageo crap which I didn't buy because they're garbage).
It was a good day.

>>21639620
Oh, the Woodford was $36 - $6 cheaper than anything on Wine Searcher.
Love me some Costco.

>>21639620
Redbreast 12 is garbage

>Redbreast 12 is garbage
>buy Roe & Co™ Solera instead!

>>21639742
Bushmills is far superior.

>>21613273
You can drink it or use it in your car.

>>21639789
Bushmills 12 is 10x better than redbreast 12 it’s not even close. Redbreast is all one note.

>>21640125
Did someone say “bush”??
Did someone say “breast”???
WOAH!!!!!!

What is the best mass market peated scotch and why is it Port Charlotte?

>>21639620
redbreast 12 is always available since it's overpriced

>>21640125
>it's better because it has more notes
Read: all those different notes cancel each other out so it tastes like fucking nothing.
Complexity is a bad thing in a whiskey.

>>21634376
Fuck i need to go to the tiki bar again.

>>21640269
>Complexity is a bad thing in a whiskey
Typical bourbon drinker

>>21640146
Ardbeg. 10-15 years ago it was Caol Ila, but diageo gonna diageo.

>>21640269
>Complexity is a bad thing in a whiskey.
holy fucking tastelet

>>21640484
Not really, there are tons of complex bourbons, they just tend to cost more, and can be absurdly priced in europe.

>>21618515
I drink buffalo trace but I'm new to whiskey. I love mixing it with coke. Any recommendations?

>>21640751
Name one that’s reasonably priced around $50 or $70
Genuinely curious because I’ve found near every bourbon to taste samey contrasted with the relatively diverse profiles of scotches
Out of like 50-100 bourbons I’ve tried only one russels reserve single barrel (a one-off) and boxergrail derringer (mostly because of the sherry finish gimmick) tasted unique

>>21640795
Are you pretending to be retarded?

>>21640849
>they tend to cost more
>$50-70 hard limit
That's not how this works.

If you want something particularly unique you're going for things like this >>21612074
The Willett "funk" is quite unique. You're just paying $250-600/bottle.

Probably not "worth" it to most people, but it's a very unique bourbon regardless.

>>21640849
theres this thing called a tasting room where you can try samples to find out what you like

>>21640853
No I'm just a newfag

I bought a bottle of JB because I was reading American Psycho and thought it was alright

>>21641694
It's a lot easier to make a unique scotch since the rules are a lot more open in their regulations. Bourbon requires a minimum of 51% corn and the requirement to use brand new fresh charred oak barrels will limit what any bourbon will taste like to start off with.

If you want more unique bourbon at a more affordable price tag look into stuff that's finished in an interesting barrel.

Widow Jane is one of the easier to find options.

>>21612062 (OP)
this stuff is unique in the sense that it sucks but I still really like it a lot

>>21641717
>french translation to go here

>>21641739
I mean it's canada you're only losing ~10-11% of the population if you only put english.

But since it's a law, you at least have to try putting a french translation, even if it's shitty or half assed.

>>21641749
The people who drink Forty Creek don't know how to read.

>>21640855 #
>>they tend to cost more
>>$50-70 hard limit
>That's not how this works.
I said around not hard limit
There’s plenty of scotches around that price with a lot of variety and yet you recommend unique bourbon only starting at $250-$600 price inflated tater bait lol
Meme spirit
>>21640910 #
wow ive never been to a whiskey bar, tasting event, liquor store, distillery, or friends house before
>>21641716
was 2slow on delet for edit but yeah I’m aware of bourbon’s requirements. I mean single malts have the requirement of being 100% barley lol but to be fair there is a lot of variation due to the use of peat and yes the reused barrels allowing for more shift
So yeah thanks for the widow jane rec I’ve heard the name but never looked into it. I’ll try it out and anyone else feel free to give recs on this regard

Obviously there’s variation between a wheated or a high rye etc I’m just saying I’ve tried all the buffalo trace sloppa like e h taylor, blantons, eagle rare, etc
And also thread favorites like woodford double oaked, OGD 114, four roses single barrels, elijah craig single barrels, balcones, local distilleries etc
also knob creek, willet pot still, bookers basils 1792 jeffersons m*ker’s m*rk old forester michters bulleit new riff blah blah blah
And yeah some taste more woody than others, some more like corn, but it’s all just facking bourbon. Only “funk” like that of balcones or my aforementioned russel’s single barrel seem to impart unique character and that seems rare outside of the coveted willet purple tops from what I can tell
Also meant to say rabbit hole dareringer in the first post (boxergrail is their rye)

>>21641766
>price inflated tater bait
They've always been pretty expensive.

They've gone up in price even at MSRP, but they were always pricey releases. Even a decade ago willett purple tops were selling for $200+/bottle.

Not excusing their price, just saying it's not that price inflated. (though the 2ndary prices are HEAVILY inflated by taters)

>>21641766
I'd say Woodford Reserve Double Oaked has a unique character for its pricepoint because nothing else in its pricepoint is nearly as oaky.

>>21634376
Any cocktail recommendations?

>>21641766
>1792
This has been the only american whiskey I've liked out of the ones I've tried, a lot of aggressively mediocre stuff out there.

Is E.H. Taylor a tater whiskey you always hear about muh blantons muh eaglrare but this E.H. Taylor is silky smooth even at 100 proof

>>21642323
It's tater because it's sought after and often goes for above MSRP, but it's not tater if you're buying it at MSRP and drinking it.

>why yes, I only drink whisk(e)y undiluted, at room temperature, from a Glencairn
>why yes, I prefer cask strength whisk(e)y

>>21644286
>>21644438
Meet in the middle, pour neat but from a chilled bottle

>>21644810
Fine, but only cellar temp, not fridge chilled.

>>21644820
Why do you fear the cold so?

>>21644846
Because it mutes flavors

>>21644861
Maybe your tongue is losing its sense of taste over time

>>21644874
It's fact moron, has nothing to do with the individual.

Cold mutes certain flavors and aromas.

You're free to prefer that, but don't act like it's not happening, you just look retarded.

>>21644880
I'm not the one melting tastebuds away with 60+ percent woody mouthwash and then blaming the loss of nuances on society instead of my own body, am I

>>21644861
You know what also mutes flavour? Alcohol.

>>21644893
>melting tastebuds away with 60+ percent woody mouthwash
they died a glorious death

>>21644438
>why yes, I will get diagnosed with mouth cancer 10 years from now

this thread has turned into pure cancer
its just a bunch of faggots arguing about how to drink whiskey or calling this and that garbage....nobody cares if you don't like bourbon or scotch or some other brand or how you drink it

>>21645036
people used to post their own bottles

>>21645091
thats what I would rather see, even if its a tater bottle or homeless juice as I would rather live vicariously through some anons post
anyone posting sour grapes should fuck off to the wine general thread

>>21644896
Back to baby formula for you!

>>21645091
people used to be able to afford it

>>21645036
It’s just bantz with the boyz, I don’t take any of it seriously
Ok, real post- tried an “older” Kilchoman (13 yr) and thought it was very good, but still enjoy their younger releases more. For those that don’t enjoy the peat bombs I could see them enjoying it more (but in that case- why are you drinking Kilchoman to begin with?)

I’ll save this thread with the best value in whiskey.

i'm not drinking because i'm watching my calories

>>21646447
Same. I cut my drinking down from twice a week on average to once a week or even two weeks.

I drink one dram of whiskey over the course of a year

had to dig this one out