Thread 21652832

what we drinkan tonight /ck/?
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Just some cider. Gotta work tomorrow

>>21652832 (OP)
>only 4
lol lightweight

>>21652832 (OP)
likely another fifth of vodka

>>21652832 (OP)
Natural light. None of your gay ass german dirt beer can compare to simple and ubiquitous domestic macro lagers. America always wins baby. germany is one of our vassal states.

>>21652832 (OP)
I had two premiums. Gonna maybe have a whiskey later. Might take a nap first though

tried and true

I got some pedro ximenez wine from chile

drinking some vodka and sodas, and a couple of vodka/ice teas. Need to stop drinking though, hopefully this is the last time for a while. I have bipolar 1 so yeah. It doesn't affect me and I've been stable over a decade and no episodes, but I have to cut out anything that could even remotely possibly cause a problem. Which, sadly, probably includes this site. Chairs fuckers.

gin and mineral water with some lime juice

>>21652878
polished those off a bit ago. on to the red wine now
>>21652894
i'm from yookay the original vassal state

>>21652887
think i've had a different one from the same brewery, big fan of belgian ales
>>21652914
>>21652893
i'm intrigued by american lager, only examples you get over here are bud, coors and miller and mainstream craft stuff. is your average american beer any different?
>>21652926
looks good anon enjoy
>>21653037
just get on the red wine anon, great stuff

>>21653037
>living in a shiity area
>having shitty options
>cat poster
lol you fucking fag

>>21653173
Coors is a decent representation of the generic American lager. Not too sweet, not too crisp, very inoffensive and very refreshing when it's ice cold on a hot day. The more local stuff like yuengling are a bit better, but ultimately the whole point of them is to be able to drink a lot in one sitting for cheap.

>>21652832 (OP)
I can't drink because I always black out and get arrested lol and weed makes me paranoid as hell. Just got to be 100% sober all the time with nothing to take the edge off, fucking sucks lmao

>>21653193
>ice cold on a hot day
This is kind of a non sequitur but euros generally do not understand the American beer experience because they have literally never felt 95+ degree (F) temperatures with high humidity. Beer means something different here, and if you want to joke about "bottled watter", that's by design for the working man.

A friend left me some soft drink so I put some sugar and baker's yeast in there. Will be the ideal drink before I go to work in a couple days time

>>21652832 (OP)
Some classics. Pilsner Urquell aways does the trick

>>21652887
They put duchesse in cans?? I had no idea.
Stuff tastes too much like vinegar to me desu

>>21653272
Yes, even the basic normie lagers differ. Here in Poland the average beer is like 5.5% ABV and no one drinks light lager. It's considered bad for a beer to be too light / watery. The average lager used to be even more full bodied and heavy here, but in the 90s the privatized breweries realized they can cut production costs by making drier beer.

>>21653272
counterpoint to this is that yuropoors generally do not use air conditioning so the average mcdonaldland drinking experience occurs at an ambient temperature 10 degrees lower than in yuropooria where people will sit outdoors and sip zogbier under the star of david when it's 27 degrees and humid and have a couple of beers and it's no biggie, meanwhile americans are getting blasted with 15 degree bone dry recirculating air while drinking pine sol flavored 11% abv sugar syrup and they're still sweating like pigs because they can't handle natural weather conditions

it may be true that 80 years ago americans enjoyed an ice cold lager at 95 degrees F, but in this day and age that is absolutely unheard of considering nowhere indoors is it 95 F and if you so much as open a bottle of beer outdoors in america you will immediately be arrested by the religious police, ergo nobody ACTUALLY drinks le ice cold macro lager like the memes say

>>21653342
oops I mixed my temperature scales there, sorry for having a passport xd xd

>>21653193
>>21653272
American beer is shit not because of some climate difference but because american breweries are retarded and put corn, rice or corn syrup instead of adding more malt. That's why they taste so fucking watery and pissy, the amount of malt flavour is significantly decreased because a significant fraction of the alcohol is fermented from these additives that don't contribute much to the flavour.
It's like brewing a 2% beer and adding vodka to it.
A beer should only have yeast, water, hops and malt (barley or wheat, rarely rye). Nothing else.
Meanwhile:
>bud light: rice
>coors light: corn syrup
>stella artois: maize
>american budweiser: rice
>miller light / high life: corn syrup

Why amerilards put up with this is a real mystery.

>>21652832 (OP)
Prost!

>>21653434
There are over 400 breweries in my state alone, and it's not a densely-populated state

>>21653474
And yet your people still drink bud lights and such.

>>21653490
Mostly under certain circumstances
Like if you're at a concert or sporting event and they're literally the cheapest option at $12 or whatever
At parties with a lot of people, especially college parties
Or when it's literally so hot you put beers in the freezer because they have a lower freezing point and you want to drink to cool off and not get drunk
I've been to a bunch of countries everyone has their swill and their good stuff

>>21653434
It's indistinguishable from most countries popular beer. The delusion that euros drink better beer than American is fucking dumb and outdated. Most of you drink swill that isn't any better than Coors apart from MUH MALT!!!! Congratulations it's just sugar

>>21652832 (OP)
Got it as a present, its very tasty tho if u enjoy this kind of liquor

>>21653013
i dont fuck chairs...

>>21653342
> if you so much as open a bottle of beer outdoors in america you will immediately be arrested by the religious police, ergo nobody ACTUALLY drinks le ice cold macro lager like the memes say
The European mind cannot comprehend the idea of having a back yard.

>>21652926
update, this is better than I expected, I'm sure accusations of being impressionable will be the knee jerk response but it honestly has the salinity of a fino with a faint smoke finish like mezcal, for $14 I would definitely buy this again

>>21652832 (OP)
Someone going on a spamming crusade apparently
Tonight I am drinking a 40 oz Steel Reserve, drank some and poured in most of a strawberry lemonade Calypso.

nothing for me but have a bump

>>21653490
Oh and I should add there's always that guy or chick who only drinks the one piss beer because of reasons that don't even make sense to other Americans, I know these people are international, too

I've been looking for a replacement for my favorite discontinued beer (Spencer Trappist Quaddrupel) and have been trying every dubbel/quadruppel I can get my hands on. I was going to settle on a Unibroue Maudite as my preferred substitute, but they stopped importing that into the states, so the quest continues.

Currently drinking the Straffe Hendrik. Little too roasted for my tastes. Decent, but probably won't get again.

>>21653562
It's true that most other countries drink slop too. Carlsberg isn't really any better, just a bit stronger.

The only countries where the average person drinks good beer are Czechia, Germany and maybe Belgium and Ireland. Even the brits mostly ignore their own distinct ales nowadays to drink more alop lagers

>>21654447
Coors is like second to Guinness in Ireland oddly enough

Currently on my 5th tall boy of pbr
t. neet
>>21654459
It's really not odd; coors is fantastic

>>21653562
Maybe shitholes. Not my central europe country.

>>21654459
>Guinness extra
>Smithwicks Red Ale
>Harp
>Wexford Crème Ale
>Sullivan a Irish Ale
Stop talking shit, mate.

>>21654472
>doesn't name the country so we can't look up what the most popular beer there is
honestly expected no less from a spineless europoor

>>21652832 (OP)
I'm on a cut. No beer for 3 weeks :(

>>21654477
Take the non-alcoholic beer pill my friend. Proven recovery drink by German olympians.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4924186/

>>21654473
https://www.retailnews.ie/off-trade-news/heineken-ireland-solidifies-coors-light--2-position-by-rebranding-the-coors/

>>21653664
>The European mind cannot comprehend the idea of having a back yard.
Or a porch, a garage, a shed, a deck, or a shed, apparently. Not to mention hiking, camping, beach trips, fishing/boating, baseball games, stadium concerts, restaurants/bars with outdoor seating, etc. Presumably all of their public spaces have been given over to rapefugees while they huddle in their tiny commieblock apartments afraid to go outside.

>>21654473
>Smithwicks Red Ale
What's been your recent experience with this in Ireland? In the USA export market, I think the changed the recipe a few years ago, and it tasted more like modern Newkie Brown (not a good thing), and it also seems harder to find, like local distributors gave up on it. It's too bad, because "normal" ales like S'muhdicks are still tragically underserved in the amerishart market.

>>21654572
>Smithwicks Red Ale
Many years ago, I worked for a market research company and we did a study for Guinness because they wanted to introduce Smithwicks to the US market. We did focus groups where we recruited people to drink Guinness nitro draft, Smithwicks draft, and Smithwicks nitro cans---all poured into pints. It was awesome, because I could get hammered with the Irish guy they'd hired to pull the pints. End result---no one liked the Smithwicks.

>>21654597
>they wanted to introduce Smithwicks to the US market.
It's still here, just harder to find. Now I'd have to drive an hour to buy it, and they only sell it it 4-packs of jewish pint cans (15oz). No more 12 packs of bottles like the old days. But I still allege that they fucked up the formula somehow, made it less malty and more bland.

We can also get Murphy's stout in 4-packs of jewish pint cans, but it's barely even worth it. Mass-market Irish stout is a "session" beer at best, Murphy's is 4.0% ABV, less than Budweiser, and I think it's actually closer to a "lite" beer in terms of calories, hardly the "liquid bread" that Americans imagine. At least Guinness has the wherewithal to sell Draught cans in 18-packs at a slight discount.

>>21654554
>open a beer on the beach
>get arrested
>lose job
>can only get "restorative justice" jobs stacking boxes and flipping burgers that won't give you enough hours for medical insurance
>get treatable cancer
>"it's probably nothing, I can't afford this right now"
>die
just america things

>>21653576
Is it quince brandy or quince-flavored schnapps?

>>21654794
Its real brandy, destilled out of quince.
Its high quality i would say.

>>21654554
Or a shed, you forgot sheds.

>>21653576
Very nice, and I see you have the traditional Krammenglassen for cramming up your kraut-hole.

>>21655042
I wouldnt dare, its very thin Glas

>>21653446
500hz?!

>>21653576
Slutty glass.

>>21652832 (OP)
Franziskaner, coal fired pizza to celebrate Columbus day & watch MNF

was drinking a fifth a night for 5 years and just got diag'd with cirrhosis, only 31 yrs old. be careful bros

>>21655568
Wow anon im sorry, how over it is on a scale from 1 to its over?
Atleast ur post made me really think.
Also really unlucky, i Know guys who drink way more and are in their 60s

>>21655051
stupid gimmick, the human eye can't even see above 24hz anyway that's why most movies are 24 fps.

>>21652832 (OP)

I had 12 of these over approx 10 hours yesterday.

>>21655136
Had some of that, didn't like it.

>>21655599
kek

>>21655599
WeiBbier is not for everyone, i do enjoy it tho

>>21655669
>>21655786
Wrong (you), im retarded

>>21652832 (OP)
>what we drinkan tonight /ck/?
some alcohol or something maybe

Is jura a reddit wine?

>>21656273
Is your finger ok?

>>21656273
Is it? I really like their oxidized wines

>>21655786
not big on weißbier but that tegernseer hell is delicious

I only drink once in a while but PAULANER is great. My other favorite is ERDINGER.

Is there wine made from berries (blueberries, strawberries, etc.)?

>>21656547
readign redwall has informed me that bongsd make wine out of everything and that its supposedly all delicious

>>21656537
let me guide you through the magic forest of wheat beers, you have to try, sorted by max flavor
1. Mc Couffe
2 Franziskaner Dunkel
3. Aventinus (for drunkness)

>>21656580
*Mc Chouffe (a specific version)

>>21656580
mc chouffe is a belgian brown ale not a wheat beers fyi

>>21656534
Yes, so far i have tried every Single beer Brand in my Lokal Supermarket, and this is one of the best, the Störtebeker are the most dissapointing ones imho

>>21656757
You should try some real American beer like miller or real Budweiser

>>21656764
I would if there is a store i can get them, i tried a lot ex-yu beer aswell.
I can get Budweiser but its the chech one

Cracked open a bottle of Navy Bay Rum to sip on, it's alright but I generally prefer picking up junmai sake

>>21656743
I kinda knew, it just fits in that exact flavor profile though for some reason, it's a better franziskaner dunkle

>>21652904
Based MN poster, I like Schell's too.

>>21657094
>sip on
>on
ESL retard.

>>21652926
this one (pedro ximenez) is used for sauces here in spain, it's similar to teriyaki
if you wanna go for it it's
>reducción de pedro ximenez

>>21654782
Yuropoors will never experience the joy of a day on the town with your liquor in a water bottle

>>21657130
phenolic yeasts are very typical in belge/german beers, so you can find similar tastes between different styles.
that mc chouffe is on my to drink list though

>>21657187
I was on a quest to find a better tasting beer (for me) than franziskaner dunkel, and this one has been the only one I've tried that delivered

>>21653434
its retarded American consumerism and business culture at work. companies want to appease shareholders and investors by delivering record profits quarter after quarter and that shrinking and enshittifying their product to meet expectations.
consumers on the other hand have BRAND LOYALTY until it reaches a tipping point, some will leave and company will scramble to make it shittier to make up for it
you can see it happening everywhere

>>21654489
Non alcoholic beer tastes like piss though.

>>21657194
franziskaner make some decent brews, i used to get the dunkel from a local supermarket. i think in a previous thread i was recommending trying to search out some trappist beers, you might like some of those. i ordered some belgian beers after the last thread that ive not tried before, ill post some pics/thoughts in the future

Just water for me

>>21657276
representz, at certain age, you gotta drink way more water than beer, I still do beer, but in moderation and not every weekend

>>21657275
yes, I remember those trappist rochefort, they're on my hit list

>>21657291
the rocheforts are world class beers. theres lots of other trappist breweries out there that are worth sampling too.

>>21657305
I've had the chimay and orval, liked them but wouldn't repeat if I had other choices, otherwise, yeah excellent beers, I'm exploring stouts lately, on another thread brit anons were going about how they got good range of stouts on tap, that shit must be lit

>>21657319
i remember, the uk is good for stouts.
from the pic above out of the beers ive tried id recommend the rochefort, westmalle and westvleteren. all good strong dark beers. chimay is okay but not on the level of the others, i didnt like orval.
picrel is one of the beers ive ordered, really looking foward to trying it.

>forgot to pay myself
>$15 til friday
>wire buddy $50 for some cash
>buy 30 rack and half a tank of gas
i have everything i need and life is good

>>21652832 (OP)
soda water with lemon and vodka... might make the second one gin, maybe add a bit of simple and get all collinsed up in this bitch

>finished aging my grape wine on lees for a year
>smells like artificial apples
>tastes like acetone
another undrinkable batch added to my cooking wine cellar

>>21657922
Too much oxygen

>>21657926
i thought the co2 pushed it away from the must during fermentation

>>21657930
it does... kind of... If you're trapping some in. if you're doing a lot of transfers, or a breezy open fermentation, you can get some oxygen faults - they're usually more raisiny/cardboardy/sherry like.
Artificial apple and acetone (acetaldehyde) tells me that you need to give it more time. Either your yeasts died off prematurely or (and?) they did a stellar job immediately and had a rough time cleaning up their shit.

>>21658044
well if they haven't figured it out after a year then i don't think they ever will. i already racked everything anyways

>>21658051
If you care to try to save it, give it a splash (like quarter cup) of fresh juice or dextrose syrup and a quarter dose of a very transparent kviek. It'll clean up most of the bullshit in about a month.

>>21658070
i saw someone write that he can let it sit out in open air for a while and the more volatile stuff will evaporate before the ethanol does. i can do it for small drinking batches at a time so the whole thing doesn't turn into vinegar

do y'all drink on days you work?

>>21658156
yes but not on days before I work

>>21652832 (OP)
Probably four more three x bronzes.

>>21658156
Of course. Best way to end the day, since I'm blue collar.
I'll tell you, my little secret? A cold beer in a hot shower. Its the most refreshing thing in the world.

>drink vodka
>get horrible hangover
>drink wine
>fine
I'm measuring how much I drink and it's basically the same amount of alcohol
The vodka I buy has been bottom shelf shit, does that really make hangovers that much worse?

>>21658254
is it really 2025 and people still don't understand how hangovers work?

>>21658156
i only drink on days that end in y ;)

>>21658156
no, and only once a week, and not every week

>>21658254
There are variables like how quickly you drink it and how full and hydrated you are, but bottom shelf vodka will have larger amounts of congeners than mid-level (byproducts, like esters, heavier alcohols, and even a bit of methanol) which will increase the risk of a hangover. Some people find the tannins and sulfites in wine contribute to a hangover. For me, most things are fine, but overdoing it on gin will make my bones hurt the next morning.
If it tastes like fuel, you're probably going to wake up with a headache. Drink water (with a hydration pack if you have such things), apply the usual analgesics (a light nsaid like acetominophen, caffeine, and marijuana or CBD if you partake) with a salty carb and lipid rich breakfast, and remind yourself that this isn't good for you.

>>21657140
Hell yeah. I wish their sour series got more love during that craze. I don't even like sours but schells put out some great ones. If you haven't been to bock fest or their oktoberfest it's worth checking out. Their brewery is fucking beautiful. One of the rare ones I'd suggest a tour of

https://www.therealreview.com/who-makes-my-wine/
Where do you get quality wine in Australia? The nearest stores to me are BWS and liquor legends, not sure how much variety they have.

>>21652832 (OP)
I'm this fucking close to returning to a local store where I found some white cheap wine earlier today and bought 1 pack + something else already.
Would another coat help?
I'm usually a shameless alchie but the amount I'm planning to buy yet makes me feel shame.

>>21652887
The original is nice. Haven't had the weak version neither knew it existed.

>>21652832 (OP)
Nothing because I've absolutely ruined my stomach through a four-day white cider-fueled bender

>>21656273
Show bussy

>>21658807
No one there cares. I saw alcoholics all day when I worked at one and the only one I felt bad for was the bum with the giant swollen red nose buying pints of karkov

>>21658957
Ended up going with my other coat and buying slightly less than I first intended. But lost the urge for drinking, might pick it up later or save it for tomorrow idk.

homebrewed fullers london porter clone, just finished primary fermentation so its uncarbonated. still tastes good though, maybe a bit sweet. ill keg it it the coming days

>>21656547
yes it’s fucking kino but good luck ever finding it in the US
a local place here in flyover makes cherry wine and other than that I’ve had some “mass produced” blackberry wine sloppa out of washington that I got at world market that was still breddy gud. Otherwise I’ve had (blueberry?) wine in estonia but I don’t think the server and I could understand each other well she just said it was “berry”. I’ve also fermented my own abominations. Plum brandies are relatively easy to find but the actual plum wines seem to mostly be drank in the balkans. Japanese plum wines are usually just backsweetened sake or spirits not actual 100% plum ferments

>>21657156
>never heard of snoop dogg’s sippin on gin n juice or ever been asked “what’re you sippin on?”
you’re clearly the ESL here since you’re unfamiliar with extremely common vernacular

>>21658987
>going with my other coat
what do you mean by this

>>21652893
based

This Saturday I'll be seven (7) weeks sober.

why is grape wine the only thing i see at alcohol stores? where's the apple wine?

>>21658721
I've only had their firebrick and oktoberfest beers, one at the German restaurant in New Ulm since Schell's was essentially their entire tap list. Definitely some of my favorite maltier lagers from a domestic style producer for easy drinking and I always recommend them when I'm bartending. I've yet to make it out to their events but they're definitely on my list if I can get work/school off to go.

Where do you buy good wine in Australia? Everything is mass produced crap.

>>21652832 (OP)
Killian's. FML.

>>21652832 (OP)
For me, it's...

>>21659796
Congrats man!
Well, the coffee machine's hot, and the espresso machine's ready to go in about 90 seconds. I have an entire cupboard of weird teas - the sorrel earl grey makes a really good iced tea with some lemon. We got fizzy water and all kind of things to go in it - pineapple, lime, and coconut water with some mint and a bit of shaved allspice on top?

>>21660124
Aventinus is great, but that thumbnail makes it look like some sort of purple drank.

>>21658957
I've worked at a grocery store for a while in the past. Do all alkies just look like they might die at any moment or was that just the ones at my store because they were around 50.
>>21657349
>westmalle
I found westmalle dubbel quite weak desu. Rochefort, st' bernardus, straffe hendrik and chimay are all better.

>>21660899
kino

delicious

>>21660124
pretty good flavor, amazing drunkness punch

https://youtu.be/4TXWADXqs4A
'17 nuits saint georges

Drank a carrot cake beer. Tasted okay I guess. Then drank a mango drink on my way from the store. I tried to convince myself it was okay but then I realized it had like a jeet's ass spice tang to it and looked at the label. It was mango and chillipepper flavor. What the fuck? Who wants to drink chillipepper? So I poured it out as a libation to my friend. THen I drank blackberry coconut and vodka and blueberry mojito. Those were fine. Now I am listening to rap when I don't like rap and trolling on 4chin with the hope that I get it out of my system and never come back here again.

>>21660885
for a dubbel its the correct % and i remember it being pretty tasty. i find anything over 5% strong lol, as i like to drink a liter or so in a sitting
>>21660998
ive tried some very good polish beers but not from this brewery. browars fortuna and stu mostow come to mind

>>21661671
Chili's work really well in porters and stouts. Outside of that I don't want em in my beer, unless I put them in there with like an olive or beef stick or something

>>21652887
>they put Duchess in cans
>in fucking cans
Its so over

>>21660086
You have to go out to wineyards and taste. Buying stuff while you're there and adding yourself to mailing lists. Which wine region are you near by? If you want good wine, you actually have to put in effort to work out what is good and what isn't.

>>21662086
McLaren Vale is about 30 minutes from me, there's a bunch vineyard near where I live but I don't know what they're called.

>>21652832 (OP)
What alcohol makes for a good cheap balsamic vinegar substitute

>>21662177
Spoiled whiskey

>>21661922
>ive tried some very good polish beers but not from this brewery. browars fortuna and stu mostow come to mind
Amber is a really solid mid-sized brewery nowadays, I think the only one that compares quality-wise is Fortuna if you count their other brands like Komes and Miłosław. Amber does so many good seasonal releases nowadays and their old beers seem consistent in quality

the Polish craft beer scene is solid too, but our macro lagers are not as good as the ones in Czechia

It's a drinking night. Every other day. Bacardi superior as always. I have to stain a deck today and do a little cleanup on the property but other than that? Drink. Start around 6pm.

>>21662181
Good god man, what the hell are you doing to your whiskey?

>>21661922
>>21657349
>>21657305
hey pham if you had to choose one from your list which one would it be?

>>21658254
not hydrating and not eating while drinking makes hangovers much worse. vodka provides less hydration than wine, so drink something non alcoholic alongside it

the virgin English porter:
>4% ABV
>watery
>not even sure if it wants to be roasty
>no longer a popular style, mogged by stout
>not brewed by major brands

the chad Polish (Baltic) Porter:
>9% ABV
>thick
>full of rich roasty, dark bread and fruity flavors
>more popular than it's been in decades
>even macroslop brands like Zywiec and Okocim brew it

>>21652832 (OP)
Was a lager drinker my whole life but since going off it recently I've been drinking bitter, stouts (not Guiness) since. Had my first Hobgoblin ruby ale yesterday, was quite enjoyable. Any recomendations? I also enjoy a good wheet beer.

>>21652832 (OP)
how much alcohol (of each type) should get a person according to thier weight drunk? Im asking because I want to know what determines someone as a lightweight vs heavy

This was really good, probably one of the best marzens I've had. I should try their other beers.

>>21662397
You should try King Goblin, it's effectively an amped up Hobgoblin
Also Theakston Old Peculier, Black Sheep Riggwelter, Fuller's London Pride are all great and pretty easily available

>>21661922
>i find anything over 5% strong lol,
I wasn't talking about the percentage but taste. West malle tripel is the gold standard for tripels though.

>>21660124
i really liked this one until i accidentally opened one at night and forced myself to drink it next day lukewarm. word of advice anons.

self clear becomes it a pair norrlands gold

>>21662397
I like bitter, a bitter this and a bitter that! Haha

>>21660076
Have you tried anything from utepils? Those guys pump out some killer stuff. They have my favorite fest bier and their year round hefe is great. Definitely recommend those guys if you like the traditional lager stuff

You know vomiting, blacks outs and hangovers is your body trying to protect itself from poison.

>>21662708
i'm a pro at it
i've fine tune it so i can binge and just get dehydrated in the morning
no vomiting, no black outs

>>21662533
De förtjänar inte våra gyllene nektar. Skål

>>21662183
the stouts/porters from fortuna and komes were very good, also the sours and ipas i tried from stu mostow too. as good as any craft anglo beers.
not much of a lager fan but budvar isnt bad.
>>21662231
rochefort 10 (99 on beeradvocate) or westvleteren 12 (100 on beeradvocate), they are equal in their greatness

>>21662397
5 points best bitter, bath ales gem, harveys sussex best, timothy taylors landlord and fullers esb

original op here, here's to another weekend (been drinking all week too). got these for the next couple days. few spatens in the fridge too.
don't know much about red wine but i enjoy these rhone and adjacent wines

They were on sale and tried them all, they are ok, but im never gonna buy them again, also way to much sugar.

>>21662533
norrlands guld smaker sånn som tær lukter

>>21652832 (OP)
homemade eggnog, but might crack open an almanac in a bit

>>21663677
>almanac
Hey doc, can we pour some of this 1985 almanac or will it disrupt the time space continuum?

>>21662395
yes, the żywiec porter is quite good

Drank the last Chimay available in my house and now I'm out of beer, how did it come to this?

>>21663947
it varies a bit, but is usually solid, yeah

Picked up a 4pk of founders breakfast stout it’s my first time having it after they rebranded the packaging I just hope the beer is the same

>>21664173
I've yet to try the okocim porter but I will in due time
I'm slowly working through the beer aisle at the mall, buying what looks interesting

I had a phase for two months where I drank the żywiec porters exclusively, multiple bottles daily, multiple times a week, al/ck/oholism is not fun

Nothing beats that sloppy 5am bowel movement after going on a bender. Thank you for your service Cider and Rum.

>>21664180
be careful anon
if you're having porter cravings, Amber makes a non-alcoholic porter nowadays, I like it though it's not for everyone as it's very thick and heavy on the burnt bread notes
their smoked porter was also amazing, as was the "woodside" porter they release in Żabka in winter time

>>21664205
I've tried the normal baltic porter from amber and their koźlak as well
both very tasty
I don't care for non-alcoholic beer as it's utterly pointless and worse in flavour than normal beer

>their smoked porter was also amazing
the po godzinach or after hours one?
yeah I tried that and it was good too but a bit too bitter for me

I've stopped going to żabka cuz it's too expensive
amber in general has very tasty beer

>>21664215
>the po godzinach or after hours one?
yup. I hope they rerelease it
>amber in general has very tasty beer
I agree, Chmielowy is a really solid pilsner too even though it's like their cheapest "basic" beer. maybe I should try their marzen if it's still around

>>21664235
czarny bez was a disappointment as there was barely any elderflower flavour in there
still want to try the żywe one as it sounds very interesting and like it evolves in flavour depending on how far through the suggested 45 days of consumption it is
>I should try their marzen if it's still around
I've not seen it personally
but instead lidl has a west coast and a new zealand ipa from them and those are very tasty

>>21664250
Złote Lwy is also solid, full and malty lager

>tfw i realized that i never have to taste alcohol again when i want to get drunk because i just need to have a plate of sauerkraut or kimchi on hand and eat a bit of it immediately after taking a shot

Feels food man

>>21652832 (OP)
>Fixes your life
Alcohol bros, what drink are you gonna fill it with?

mine says "tequila rita" on the front though

>>21665027
whoops dropped my pic

>>21664891
Blackberry brandy

>>21652832 (OP)
Any alcanons ever tried Tokaji? How does it compare to other pudding wines? It sounds nice but I'd have to order it from online and I'm not sure that it's worth it.

>>21664891
fireball

>>21665030
These are based for drinking in public

>>21664891
If I'm using it to liven up other drinks, the highest proof Everclear-alike I can find.
If I'm drinking from the flask, a 100 proof plus Rye.

>>21657305
>>21657319
Orval is worth a try, and a re-try if it’s been a while. I’ve had my share of a few off-bottles before (I attribute it to bad handling, maybe they sat for too long in a warm transport truck or something and the taste went off) but most of the time it’s an amazing profile of approachable bitterness, tart hopiness, and tastefully reserved sweetness

I used to be a huge coors and pabst guy, but I have slowly swung more towards guinness and kolsches as my go-to’s.
Well, problem is my favorite beers like guinness used to be $9.99. Then it became 11 bucks, the 12. I walked into the grocery store last week and it had jumped up to 14 freaking dollars for a six pack.
I am now drinking $6 Hamm’s beer as a result of these rising costs for premium beer, and I like it better than Pabst I think!

I’ve never drank before but I’m interested in getting into classy drinks like cocktails or something, any suggestions on where to begin?

>>21665820
Gin and tonic with lime is a classic for a reason
Honestly unless you're getting into exotic gins Gordon's really is one of the best brands for a straightforward mixer

>>21652832 (OP)
Merlot boiled with spice

>>21652926
>>21653677
>>21657157
How DRY?

>>21653037
Fag libs like to make 'em in US

>>21653276
>soft drink
has some preservatives that will block fermentation, you need plain water, some flavor plant, the yeast and let it ferment where it's slightly warm and dark

>>21665864
and sugar ofc

>>21665851
I’ll check Gordon’s out, my buddy was saying gin and tonic too but I wanted to ask people who may know better than him for more ideas

>>21665820
COCKtails as the name suggests are for faggots and women
classy drinks are when you buy and drink expensive spirits on their own

>>21665872
Earnest Hemingway, Katherine Hepburn, Humpfrey Bogart, Roald Dahl, and Alfred Hitchcock weren't wrong

>>21665820
>classy drinks like cocktails
Fag.

are there any well-established methods of saving some freshly racked wine that didn't turn out so good? like are there any methods of re-fermenting it to remove the more volatile stuff, or can i put some oak concentrate in or other flavors and then wait a little longer?

>>21652832 (OP)
Drank like 5 standard drinks in three hours on Saturday evening. First time in a while since I now live remote and have to drive a lot if I want a social life. Was pretty drunk (didn't have to drive) and had anxiety sobering up during the night. Fortunately gave up on strong alcohol years ago. It was fun for a while but I guess alcohol isn't for me anymore.

>>21665958
Decant it.

>>21665968
why do people decant instead of shaking the bottle?

>>21652887
Disgusting
>>21658891
The original is a balsamic vinegary mess

>>21654264
St. Bernardus 12 or Rochefort 10

>>21662395
Then there's the elusive East German Porter

im gonna try using pomegranate peels instead of hops so i dont drink estrogen like you soyboys

>>21666143
Isn't easy Germany basically poland

>>21665820
the simplest ones where the flavors actually synergise are
>gin and tonic
>whiskey and coke
>martini

>>21666143
interesting, I didn't even know about it. is it still brewed by anyone?

>>21666153
no, more like basically Czechia

the Czechs have really good lagers / pilsners. even the cheap macro ones are often better than some craft lagers in other countries

>>21666118
I've tried both. Thought the Rochefort was decent, didn't care for St. Bernadus. Out of the other Trappists I've tried:

>liked
Westmalle
Chimay

>didn't like
Orval
La Trappe

>>21666182
Yes. It's a top-ferment and is known for strong notes of dark roast coffee, dark chocolate, wood, and dried fruit. It's typically lagered and some cheaper ones would use a blended mash of malt and corn

>>21652832 (OP)
Just wanted to say I've successfully quit drinking, had my last bottle a little while ago otherwise would post.
Just couldn't get my credit cards paid down and if I have <6 beers within one hour I get sober within 5-10 minutes.

I'm giving my liver a 6 month total rest and reset and will stick to some limits like 3 beers max on a given day. 6 (one time a week) for the weekend.
As for binge drinking, your liver adjusts after a couple days so I don't see it as one single binge session but like maybe 3-4 days of drinking like on holiday. I think 4 of these a year is acceptable as an upper limit.
I hope to stay within these limits after my rest.

Truly, if your liver is puny, 3 beers is a pretty decent drink.
But damn, right now, I gotta drink at least 15 beers to feel anything.

>>21653434
Good cream ale is extremely drinkable but most craft places that experiment with it fuck it up and leave it with this nasty taste like that vomit chemical in Hershey's chocolate.

Yeungling has made a couple good light beers.

The American Pale Ale is the nation's only decent contribution to beer.
I liked the American Amber back in the day as a staple, though most were extremely weak, but even Fat Tire changed their main label to some shit ass golden lager.

American IPAs are cancer, pure and simple.
Except:
If you lean into adding grapefruit like Sweetwater Brewery,
It's a "cascade" or "red" IPA that's a tiny bit malty,
A good "hazy" "New England" IPA (but God I'm sick of them).

>>21655136
This stuff is ass.
Spiced weisshit is awful.

>>21656537
Good as a single glass with a meal. But not that over spiced shit.
Though NGL will banana ass white ale if drunk.

>>21656580
Just disgusting.

>>21657206
The deracination in American culture going back 200 years is the cause of such cultural trauma that most middle Americans are totally broken and brand loyalty is a form of slop worship from having completely given up.
Boomers are the last vestige of middle America "I just want a Bud Light and steak and potatoes".
Millennials on the other hand do the same thing but instead it's, "Well I don't really know beer, but could I have like, I guess, an IPA or something?"

>>21662395
Latvian darks are breddy gud

This is the best beer in the world in terms of basic, satisfying flavor. It's cheap too.

>>21666243
>>21666246
weissbiers aren't spiced, the yeast can just produce spicy aromas sometimes, similar to cloves

>>21666265
clove/pepper is a common flavour, banana can also be expressed at higher fermentation temps.
>>21657349
my boxes of belgian beer (from smaller breweries) dropped.
first up is vicaris generaal, good dark fruit/bready flavour, quite roasty with a medium body and solid carbonation. puts chimay blue to shame, which i drunk earlier and tastes of nothing in comparison.

>>21666118
>St. Bernardus 12
One of my favorite beers, it's Westvleteren but actually affordable.

ole' reliable

>>21666305
I drank their "Pilsner" and then had a regular Ying and it tasted like Japanese barley tea.

>>21666187
I gotcha. I'll happily drink any eastern euro lager. Those trashy slavs know their shit when it comes to beerskis

>>21666308
beer is just fermented barley tea when you think about it

>>21665144
Sweet Tojaki's good. If it's this exact bottle, you'll be paying quite a bit for a 10 year product when a 2 year would probably do you just fine.
I prefer the dry - furmint makes a good dry white wine grape, I would have never guessed.

I've never drank before in my life but I'm thinking about starting. What should I start out with?
I like carbonated drinks but non-carbonated is good too. I'm not looking to get smashed either, just kinda trying something new.
I'm in the US since that probably matters.

>>21667254
If you're getting by fine without, you're really not missing a whole lot. It helps with my anxiety at functions - without it, I'm pretty Laconic in a room with more that three people in it.

If you are going to test the firewaters, American lagers and hard seltzers are the easiest entry points - fizzy, both somewhat sweet, inoffensive, best served freezing cold.
For cocktails, if you have a sweet tooth, you'll find a lot of things reasonably palatable. I prefer a good balance between sweet, sour, and herbal/bitter/nutty/funky... a good gin with a flavourful tonic and some lime for instance, or a Last Word, or something like an Industry Sour - lots of herbal funk going on with that one.

>>21663141
Is that a fuckin' Ibanez Xiphos?

Are there actually a lot of German speakers in this thread? Or just people drinking German beers?

>>21667377
I don't really go to a lot of functions or hangouts or whatever because I don't usually enjoy them, but I'm wondering if a little buzz would help with that. I'm definitely not looking to get smashed, I've been around enough of that to know I want no part of it.
I do have a bit of a sweet tooth, but I think starting out with something simple and somewhat familiar is best. Thanks for the suggestions.

>>21665820
Like everyone else is saying, you don't know what you want. so what you probably actually want is a Gin 'n Tonic, which is actually really hard to beat as far as mixed drinks go. Like, I've had bunch of different fancy as cocktails with a heap of obscure ingredients, but none of them beat a well mixed G'NT.

The real nice thing is that the drink is simple, you just use gin, some tonic, and some lime if you have any, but you can always upgrade the individual ingredients to make them as fancy as you want. The lime is optional, but you basically always want to use it (adding a squeeze of juice and some of the peel) if you have a fresh one available. It's not a drink that benefits by messing around trying to add more ingredients to it, everything you try to add to it beyond the core ingredients will likely make it worse.

The important thing to note is the ratio you want to mix will depend on what you're mixing. A basic Gordon's + Schweppes Tonic will work best with 1:1 gin to tonic. With 'fancier' mixes, where the gin has more flavor and the tonic is generally lighter, you'll probably want to up the ratio to have *less* gin and more tonic, so more like a 1:2 or even 1:3 ratio.

The real endgame of 'classy' though is fancy wine and whisky.

>>21667910
Yes, bought it 2010, was my first guitar

>>21668266
>the endgame of 'classy' though is fancy wine and whisky
both can be fucked up as much as you want with cola - a kalimotxo/calimocho and rye/whiskey n coke, respectively. I don't recommend the first.

i am drinking two natty daddy tall boys to forget my life today

>>21654489
>>21657217
So what's the best non-alcoholic beer? I'm trying to cut back, not eliminate on regular beer (mainly calories / liver health). So far I've tried:

- Sierra Nevada Trail Pass (the best of the na beers so far)
- Clausthaler (disgusting, didn't taste or smell like beer at all)
- Athletic Run IPA (it was just fine)
- New School Sour (it tasted like diluted kool-aid)

Trying Guinness / Peroni 0 next I guess. The Clausthaler in particular was really bad it made me want to pour it out and open the delirium tremens I have in the fridge.

>>21669677
I thought Heineken 0 was supposed to be decent

>>21669829
I don't like regular Heineken so I doubt I'll like the 0% version. I am more of a pilsner / ipa slut

I'm enjoying some aquavit and a modelo :)

>>21669677
I think non alck IPAs are usually the best because they're all about hops anyway. it masks the flaws that can result from non-alck beer's malty side being a little fucky
especially west coast style bitter hop bombs

Nicely thick baltic porter. Bready and chocolaty, roastier than some. One of the better ones I've had.

I've only had four (4) beers since March, all Rodenbach Grand Crus

>>21671051
another one to be on the lookout for

Fiano

>>21652832 (OP)
18 units of cheap whisky, same as every night. Yes I work in a kitchen 50+ hours a week, no I don't care that I'm gonna die from alcohol poisoning, in fact it is the goal

>>21670097
based recoverer
>>21652832 (OP)
ICE bagged one of my bros at work today, and my friend in russia is probably going to get thrown from a window before halloween and i am stuck here unable to do fucking thing so thinkin some corrosive inhalants or maybe some comfy gin and sodas on the balcony staring down the alley in the drizzle. its nice to feel

>be Australian
>pay the highest alcohol tax in the world despite country's reputation
>spend $20 on 6 pack of generic "full strength" 330ml lager bottles
>check label
>it's only 4.2%
>democracy manifest o algo

>be american
>buy 12 pack of piss water for like 10 bucks idk
>drink it all in one night
>don't die because fat as fuck
>go outside naked in the dark and start ranting about the jews
>nothing ever happens

>be britbong
>beer is illegal now because it's haram

>sober 24 hours
>start calculating how much money per month I could save if I switched to handles of vodka instead of beer
40 standard drinks a week is the same whether it's from liquor or beer as long as you're hydrated, right?

>>21671953
I mean... in the same sense that crack and coke or codeine and 14-MM are the same thing. It's very dose and tolerance dependant. 5/5 doctors recommend not drinking those 40 standard units all at once at any potency.

>>21671953
Let's break this down step by step:

1. Define the quantities:

“40 standard drinks a week” means 40 standard servings of alcohol per week.

In the U.S., one standard drink equals 14 g of pure alcohol, which corresponds to:

~12 oz (355 ml) of 5% beer

~1.5 oz (44 ml) of 40% liquor (80 proof)

2. Weekly consumption:

40 drinks × 1.5 oz liquor per drink = 60 oz of 40% liquor per week.

3. Convert to total volume:

1 gallon = 128 oz

60 oz ÷ 128 = 0.47 gallons per week.

One “handle” of vodka = 1.75 L = 59.2 oz.
So, 60 oz ≈ 1 handle of vodka per week.

4. If you drink beer instead:

1 drink = 12 oz beer 40 × 12 oz = 480 oz of beer per week.

480 oz ÷ 12 oz/can = 40 cans per week.

5. Typical U.S. prices:

Beer (cheap 6-pack): ~$7 40 cans ≈ $47 per week.

Vodka (cheap handle, like Smirnoff or similar): ~$20 per bottle (1.75 L).

6. Monthly cost comparison:

Beer: $47/week × 4.33 weeks/month ≈ $203.5 per month

Vodka: $20/week × 4.33 weeks/month ≈ $86.6 per month

7. Estimated savings:
$203.5 − $86.6 = $116.9 saved per month if you switch from beer to vodka, assuming equal total alcohol intake.

Conclusion:
Drinking 40 standard drinks per week costs about $200/month with beer, versus around $85/month with vodka, saving roughly $115/month—though the health effects are not the same.

>>21670116
I agree. I have tried a few more and all the NA IPAs consistently just taste like IPAs and not whatever garbage the other variants taste like. Also more calories seems to equate to more flavor.

It's a tequila and cupcakes kinda night.

>>21666197
Urban Chestnut and Pattinson are the main producers of this type

I'm drinking a 70/30 blend of penedes methode traditionelle rose with a dao touriga blend table wine. also just had a sip of some THC-infused cold extract limoncello I made a while back. should be a fun night

since I've already confessed to degeneracy, anyone know how to bring a heady, buzzy, sativa-dominant extract to be more relaxing. I got these gummies from a different brand than usual and I take them to sleep but these things are making me wired as fuck. the limoncello THC extract is almost as bad. I think my decarb wasn't hot enough because I think CBN and CBD need a higher temp and I think this is nearly pure THC. so I'm trying to mellow it out with some CBN capsules I got online but they make me groggy in the AM

>>21673618
Save the gummies for a day when you're looking to get creatively fucked up. Most strains are super high thc and low cbd, so you'd be fighting a losing battle there. CBDA decarb starts lower than THCA, but they're close enough that you'll get both no matter what. 200F for 2-2.5h might mitigate the THCA decarb a bit. Your best bet is to find a high CBD strain, or even buy CBD oil and either mix that in, or use it and keep your bright, energetic sativa extract for days when that's what you're looking for.
There are exceptions on both sides (indica vs sativa) but It sounds to me like you'd get more of what you're after out of an analgesic-aiming indica strain - the high CBD strains (in my experience, anyway) tend to have a carob, date, or chocolate note to them but it depends on the mix of terpenes. Chocolope's an exception, but it can be bred to be high CBD. I've been making Daytime(TM) and Nighttime(R) treats for my dad for a while now. He really enjoys the kush absinthe as a nightcap, and the thai lime-mango-hazelnut truffles when he's painting.

>>21655648
Had 11 of these again yesterday over 9ish hours.

probably doing 40ish per week.

>>21652832 (OP)
my friend that never fails me. keeps a woman away from my head

>>21674870
They just call it Czechvar here,
It gives me the chuckles seeing the bottom of that can dominated by "OWNED BY THE CZECH REPUBLIC"... might as well say "Carl Conrad and Adolphus Busch suck cocks ceaselessly in hell."

>>21674871
>might as well say "Carl Conrad and Adolphus Busch suck cocks ceaselessly in hell."
kekd

A local distillery started selling a walnut amaro... fuckin ell, this stuff's the tits! Both of em!

>>21674871
it's also a selling point, I think it's basically the only big state-owned brewery left in Europe
so they're basically saying "don't want to buy your lager from a multinational corporation? buy it from the Czech government instead!"

>>21653037
I don't understand the obsession with IPAs. You go to any brewery and ninety percent of the options are IPAs. They suck shit and crowd out everything else. They taste so bad I genuinely don't get it. And I love beer, I just hate IPAs.

>>21676474
have you tried the better hazy IPAs? they are generally way less bitter than older style IPAs

>>21676474
>>21676503
They can be made good... old world hops, and avoiding making obnoxious hop bombs helps them immensely.

I'm not big on a lot of NE/hazy IPAs around here, but then again, most of our small breweries are 100% flash over substance. I half expect there to be some guild of tongue-less braumeisters.

>>21652832 (OP)
>>21653118
Ah I see you share my problem that these are the only imported lagers you can even get here anymore and every day a new "foreign" beer gets put on shelves from the same tank of slop in Burton

happy friday my friends

>>21676793
Unfiltered, actually pale... How is it?

i have more molasses than i know what to do with
gonna brew it with bread yeast
will report back in 3-4 days

>>21676850
yknow not my favorite taste-wise desu, but this is what i drank when i was a bartender to get fucked up after my shifts, so i'm used to it. i'd probably give it a 6/10 without bias

>>21676867
...
No need. The finns have a name for this - it's basically pruno.
If you plan on trying to distill it, toss in a bunch of sugar (like 2:1) and try to get your hands on some Angel yellow label yeast or some reputable turbo, give it 3-4 days to do its thing, and be prepared to cut a lot of it.
If you're just looking to make drinkable sugar wash, see if you can get some higher proof clean kveik yeast, mix it 1:1 with sugar, and toss in a fistful of chopped sultanas or currants, and give it a month to clean up.

>>21676898
That's kinda tragic.
This finally made it back to our liquor stores in a mix pack of 4 of my 5 favourites. Apparently if I want the Maudite, I have to order it in.

>>21676920
you seem to misunderstand
this wasn't an invitation for advice, it was a warning

>>21676937
Of your impending life-altering diarrhea? I'm sure you live far enough away that the bones you shit out won't effect the sewers here.

>>21676945
What's a good liqueur to drink a fifth of tonight while I smoke before i go to the bar?
Or should I just get an actual spirit

>>21677026
I like Amaro Montenegro while 'avin a wee puff off the poipe (unsweetened black cavendish - the green goes better with tiki shit)... dunno about pounding a fifth of it though. Absinthe's great for maudlin bullshit, but I really really really can't recommend drinking a lot of it straight. I usually louche it 4:1, no sugar. Drier rye is great straight for maudlin bullshit.

>>21676920
Kvass?

>>21677300
Kvas is fermented bread. Kilju's sugar wash, but if you don't make it as clean as possible (sugar with invertase, clean yeast that can handle straight dextrose, fructose, and a 10-18% abv environment), it collects the funk. Molasses and bread yeast are the natural homes of the funk... that's gonna make some funky kilju - more in tune with legit prison wine.

>>21676926
Get Rochefort 8 next time; it's better

>>21677347
I disagree, but I do enjoy the 8 and 10 a lot.

>>21677351
Rochefort > unibrow

>>21677386
It's not. Unibroue makes better beer than any Trappist I've tried

>>21677386
Disagree

>>21677386
I leave to mix myself something fucked up, and people start agreeing with me...
Unibroue makes a few that I don't like, but between them and Dieu du Ciel, I always know I'm going to have a few good pints in La Belle Province, tabarnak d'osti.

I bought midori because it's green and I wanted to make some Halloween themed things. I actually like it. Why is it so divisive?

I made a japanese slipper. It was super sweet but not bad. I'm by no means a refined drinker, I just like trying goofy cocktails. Now i'm smoking a cigar (undercrown dogma sun grown) and playing soccer with my dog in the backyard. Its a good night.

>>21677410
It's divisive because it's so sweet.
It actually might be what my all-wrong tiki swampwater's missing... Midori or allspice, I'm not sure which. I'm gonna toss some more chili bitters and a touch of ango in there and see what I feel is missing.

>>21677418
extra ango, triple hit of chili, allspice and nutmeg... also needs a big ol bush of mint up my nose but I'm out.

>>21677133
Ended up buying some sake from HEB
Tozai Snow Maiden Junmai Nigori

Any pipe recs btw? I want something gandalf-esque but simple, I just smoke cigs rn

>>21677390
Rochefort > unibrow and it's not even close
>>21677395
Don't care
>>21677403
I have no clue what any of that canuck shit is

>>21677438
Captain Black Blue - or Sail Royal if you're north of the 49th - is my go-to when my homies on the rez are avoiding me, or only willing to sell me a kg or more of leaves. It even works well to pad out a rollie made from cigar scraps... because I'll always have my stupid cigarette case on me, but the pipe stays home.

>>21677442
Unibroue and ommegang both make better Belgian style beers than most Belgian breweries, including the trappists

>>21677442
You cared

>>21677442
3 Howards agree: you're incorrect.
Two Quebecois breweries - Unibroue dealing largely in Belgian-ish brews, and Dieu du Ciel doing a lot of things, but knocking out of the fucking park with their heavier beers. They've even made an homage to Fin du Monde which is slightly different, but every bit the delightful hard tripel the original is.

>>21677446
What about the actual pipe? Do you have any brand recs for a churchwarden

>>21677456
Jesus... there was something on my screen. I thought you had a fucking bindi.

>>21677453
Kek delusional as fuck

>>21677463
The homies on the rez made me mine (as a joke... but they did a really good job). Looks like Capri makes some decent churchwardens for a decent price.

>>21677460
Who's howard?
Westmalle and Karmeliet Tripels are both bettet than la fin du monde

>>21677472
Better too

>>21677466
>Beeradvocate

>>21677475
Oh no!

This is better than any unibrow and most trappist ales

i prefer 3 pistoles to fin du monde
its less bitter
anyway im drinking vodka with warlter chaser
going to 3 weeks rehab next wednesday

>>21677480
And this is as well

>>21677483
And so is this

>>21674870
my queen
i fuckin love budvar/czeckvar

>>21677466
I don't think anyone would ever tell you that Rochefort's a shit brewery, or that the 8 isn't good. I could see why you and some others would prefer it to something as similar as Trois Pistoles, but there's this rum-and-port thing going on under the 3 pistols that I really like. It's like a tiki version of the Rochefort 8, or a really, really good take on a Chimay Bleu.

>>21677489
That sounds disgusting to me

>>21677483
I'll agree with this one, but you're definitely comparing tart red apples to brugey oranges by bringing in lambics.

>>21677490
It's probably good that we don't all have the same tastes. We'd probably all end up drinking MGD or some shit.

>>21677480
>>21677483
>>21677485
>Butthurt eurotrash

>>21677492
I pretty much only drink sours, but can appreciate a world class trappist. It's all belgian beer, I think it's fair to bring them up. Trappist ales are put on a pedestal it seems. Most of them suck

>>21677497
I only drink sours

>>21677503
Trappist ales are Belgian...
Sante Adairius is in California...

>>21677505
Different styles entirely. They have (slightly) less in common than a tripel does with an IPA.
That said, it's all a matter of taste. I've had some sours that people rave about, and it was better suited for my chips than a glass, and others that people shit on that were subtle, well balanced snifters of Flemish red gold.

The sours here are shit. Most of our beers are shit outside of a handful of breweries in Quebec, Eastern Ontario, and BC. Too many people trying so hard to outdo the competition that they aren't relying on their noses and tongues.

>>21677425
I thought I fucked this up because it became really inoffensive... it's a vaguely spicy (spice and piquant) ginger-orange-almond 20% pint of "my god, this needs mint, a peperoncino, and crushed ice"

I'll see if the mint's not shit tomorrow and make it properly. As far as split tequila-whiskey bases go, this is... deceptive.

>>21677530
>and it was better suited for my chips than a glass
I hate that fuckin duchess
Yeah, they're different styles, but they're all ales that originate from Belgium. I'll compare generally different styles in overall quality, but they are judged to their own style. Like Old Rasputin, for example, is a better quality stout than blue moon is a witbier. It's a better beer regardless of their respective styles

>>21677626
I'm overdue to hit Belgium again. I miss them Phraugs and Phlegms.
I can handle Blue Moon being shit on, but after building an outdoor festival for 36h because shit's hit the fan, few things feel better before a nap at a shit hotel than a frosty dose of vitamin moon.
Maybe that's too specific. If you're the recoverable type of dying, go for the moon with a full-training-wheels shitty gold tequila. If you're actually dying, enjoy the Rasputin.

>>21677615
Trying another wee one to see if I can improve it before I make it right. Double the lime, single spritz of violette, half ounce of curacao, no nutmeg. A little heavy on the tequila and the ice.
I'm gonna pop a pepperoncino in to see, but... shit yes, I'm onto something.

Interchanging between these perfectly well-rounded brews

Brun - not syrupy sweet or obnoxiously nutty, good maltiness
Blonde - Actually refreshing, pairs well with anything

Perfect 6.5-6% so just boozy enough but not overwhelming

Belgian tulip chalice is top-tier aesthetic, shows off colourful body and gives perfect, aromatic head

>>21677689
If you've got a barspoon, they're fun as a black and tan.

speaking of spoons... I turned >>21677687 into an upside down sunrise with some cherry whiskey bounced off the spoon half an inch below the surface. I've completely ruined it / it's great.

>>21676926
Maudite is solid, and with a cool backstory about Quebec voyageurs making a deal with the devil. For some reason La Fin du Monde fucked me up in the form of some allergic reaction, maybe with the lees they use, no idea

>>21677715
it's a similar (probably the same) yeast. There really isn't much going in to them that you wouldn't find elsewhere in dubbels and tripels, aside from the hops. What else did you have that day? Stevia gets me all pink and swollen, but it takes about 2h.

>>21677715
Sorry, eureka moment. The marmalade backbeat in Maudite is the exact thing I'm trying to put at the front of my tiki abortion. The cherry whiskey isn't doing it any harm per se, but I think tomorrow when I get the mint happening, I'll flame an orange twist at it, and pop the rest of the small wedge up top. It's not an orange juice type of drink, but I definitely need to bring the curacao up front in the nose....
Maybe I'll crosshatch the wedge, and pop the shavings in with some cherry shavings to smoke the fucker.

This has gotten out of hand, and honestly ancho reyes is the right move - but chili bitters is all I've got.