Thread 21667232

>take fresh tomato
>cut in half
>sprinkle salt on it
>eat

why does nobody realise how fucking good this is, holy shit it's like a savoury bomb, I read that tomatoes contain things called glutamates which is what MSG is derived from, the salt enhances the natural tomato flavour and like overcharges it, i almost can't eat it over how powerful the taste is, try it now

>>21667232 (OP)
That's umami for yah, kid.
Now take some dried shiitake mushrooms, powder them and sprinkle that onto the tomato plus your salt.

Shiitake mushrooms have a compound called guanylic acid in them that potentiates the savory taste from glutamate by around 10 times.

>>21667232 (OP)
now sprinkle it with msg

>>21667232 (OP)
>Anon discovers how tomato salads work
Today was a good day for /ck/

>>21667232 (OP)
>why does nobody realise how fucking good this is
they do...this is very common where people grow fresh tomatoes.

>>21667247
Umami isn't real. That's why you had to use the word savory as a descriptor.

>>21667285
retard

>>21667285
>denies basic biology
Kek

>>21667285
based science denier

>>21667290
>>21667299
>>21667417
That's why he had to use the word savory to describe umami, right? Fuck out of here. Even the Ajinomoto (the very first producer of commercial MSG) website defines umami as savory. Am I supposed to believe the company that worked directly with the chemist who discovered MSG or some random weebs on a shipost anime website?

A tomato and duke mayonnaise sandwich is the only acceptable way to eat a tomato

>>21667530
No they don't define it as savory, retard. The literal translate of umami is delicious taste. Your claim has been debunked years ago. Umami is a primary flavor and savory is a taste/category of foods. You are just flat out retarded and it is hilarious.

I could have easily used umami both times, but I love baiting retards like you.

>>21667550
Directly from the Ajinomoto website.
>One evening over dinner in 1908, one of the Ajinomoto Group’s founders, biochemist Dr. Kikunae Ikeda asked his wife a question that would change the history of food: What gave her vegetable and tofu soup its delicious meaty flavor? Mrs. Ikeda pointed to the dried seaweed called kombu, or kelp, that she used to make her traditional Japanese dashi, or broth. Inspired by this revelation, Dr. Ikeda set to work. Evaporating and treating his wife’s kombu broth, he was able to extract a crystalline compound, which turned out to be glutamic acid. Tasting the crystals, he recognized a distinct savory flavor he dubbed umami, based on the Japanese word umai (delicious). Dr. Ikeda filed a patent in 1908 to produce the world’s first umami seasoning: AJI-NO-MOTO®.
> Tasting the crystals, he recognized a distinct savory flavor he dubbed umami, based on the Japanese word umai
>he recognized a distinct savory flavor
>a distinct SAVORY flavor
Sit the fuck down, umamicuck.

>>21667573
>tfw he isn't pretending to be retarded after all

>>21667573
Woooo boy you are one big dumb idiot. Please go back to school for one basic biology, and two reading comprehension.

Thanks! :D

>>21667530
umami is a variety of savory, but not all savory flavours are umami

>>21667584
>>21667593
Shit you got rekt didn't you...

>>21667629
I see nowhere in your quote where umami is defined as savory.

>>21667637
He isn't the anon who quoted Ajinomoto. I am. Here's the relevant part again.
> Tasting the crystals, he recognized a distinct savory flavor he dubbed umami, based on the Japanese word umai
>he recognized a distinct savory flavor
>a distinct SAVORY flavor

>>21667232 (OP)
>nobody
there's this dish called caprese, look it up zoomer

>>21667670
I'm not some faggot italian or poser spanish cunt so i don't know these stupid meals

>>21667247
Umami is some shit that pseudointellectuals made up to describe a sensation we've known about for millennia.

>>21667672
stay stupid

>>21667676
not in 33 years of my life has anybody ever served me a caprese salad

>Savory: cringe face
>Savory, Japan: oh my science, nippon has done it again! first anime and now umami!? us dirty gaijen can never compare to them

>>21667232 (OP)
WHAT DOES THE REDDIT FOX HAVE TO DO WITH THAT?

WHAT DOES THE REDDIT FOX HAVE TO DO WITH THAT?

WHAT DOES THE REDDIT FOX HAVE TO DO WITH THAT?

WHAT DOES THE REDDIT FOX HAVE TO DO WITH THAT?

>>21667641
>distinct
it's deserving of its own word and definition if it is distinct, anon senpai.

>>21667750
He is my comfort animal.

>>21667827
Take it up with Ajinomoto. I copied and pasted their definition verbatim. I'm sure you, a random fuckman anon on a chink cartoon forum knows more about umami than the man who discovered it and started the first company that produced MSG.

>>21667232 (OP)
wait til you try it with salt AND pepper!

>>21667946
Not an argument, he defined nothing, and you are a whole ass idiot. There was no distinction between umami and savory before it was discovered/understood that specific compounds are what produce the umami taste sensation. The fifth primary taste.

There are foods that are savory, but not umami, and there are foods that are umami without being savory. This simple logical fact proves 100% that they are not the same thing. Cope harder king retard.

>>21667750
What does the reddit fox say haha am I right?

how do i find tomatos that are good vs flavorless

>>21668541
ive never had a flavorless tomato so i don't know what you're doing wrong

>>21668541
Go to a farmers market and buy from the hippy looking white guys, but only when tomatoes are in season.

>>21668548
>buying from the hippies and not the menonites/amish/cultists/whatever

>>21668541
Grow them yourself or find someone who does

>>21668549
Oh yeah. Thatll work too. There are none of those in my area, sadly.

>>21667232 (OP)
yeh you can concentrate the umami by reducing the water content, drying or simmering tomatoes

>>21667674
I have to agree with this guy

>>21667232 (OP)
You forgot black pepper.

>>21667530
>savory: God given language. Divinely inspired. Fundamental truth of the universe
>umami: A fake word made up by devil worshiping heathens. Perverting the essence of The All Mighty's creation
Why is it so difficult to convince even Western men of truth? Truly we live in dark times.

Is umami the new hotsauce for ck cooklet church incels?

Savorycel got btfo so badly he is talking to himself. KEK. Umami won.

>>21667530
>lord anji wouldn't dare say um-

>>21667594
>umami is a variety of savory, but not all savory flavours are umami
This anon knows.

Reminder that umami-tard
>is ESL
>is unable to differentiate between American English and British English
>can't read an English dictionary
>thinks "savory" is a plant, and specifically NOT a flavor under any circumstances
Yet he will claim to be an expert on what English words mean, what they describe, and which traditional English words need to be replaced by third worlder words with the same meaning.

>>21667232 (OP)
try with frank's red hot sauce. It's got some salt, sour, garlic and spice that makes tomatoes even better than just salt

>>21670765
>wet stuff on wet stuff
disgusting. the only wet stuff allowed on tomatos in balsamic.

>>21670730
>savorcel cope

>>21670780
You are missing out.

firm tofu properly drained with just salt and pepper is really good
tomato with a tablespoon of white vinegar rules
pickles

>>21670730
>thinks "savory" is a plant
Technically, it is also a plant, related to thyme.

>>21670903
>it is also a plant
That's not what he believes though. He doesn't believe "it's ALSO a plant." He believes "it's a plant." And he unironically believes every time someone says the word "savory" it means they're referring to the plant named "savory."

>>21670923
Now you think its a plant

>>21670929
I don't "think" anything. I know the word "savory" has multiple applications, one of them being much more common than the other. I "think" there's a reason why you are having trouble understanding English words.

>>21670953
That's not what you said before

>>21671057
The problem with your poor reading comprehension is that no amount of writing will ever get through to you. Sorry, man. I can't help you.

>>21671222
>>21671057
>>21670953
>>21670929
>>21670923
I think you both need a salted tomato.

>>21671264
Try a tomato sandwich, faggot. Bread, a generous spread of your favorite mayo, sliced tomatos, salt, freshly cracked black pepper. That's it. I like to add some pickles and a nice quality lettuce, but those are optional.

>>21670730
Oh yeah, I forgot he doesn't have a firm grasp on the English language. Isn't he a third worlder who lives in England?

>>21667539
Based. Love me some tomato sammiches.

>>21671272
was gonna call u gay as hell but u brought it back by mentioning pickles and lettuce

For me it's tomatoes and brie

>>21668541
Never supermarket tomatoes. Savoriest tomatoes have this deep red hue. Theyre also dirty. But most importantly they should have bug marks. Think about it, if a bug doesnt want it/dies if its nearby it, is it even food?

>>21671222
You're just mad you contradicted yourself

>>21672303
I didn't though. Ask your ESL teacher to brush up on you.

>>21672324
Yeah you did lol

>>21672442
Where

>>21667232 (OP)
I hate the texture and taste of raw tomatoes and only eat them dried or as some form of sauce.

>>21672447
>>21667530

>>21672459
Not me and I don't care to read his paragraph.

>>21672466
Yet here you are fighting his battle..

>>21672715
Are you literally retarded? His post is not in the same reply chain as ours (and I still have no idea what he's said, because I'm not reading it)
You lost this argument 10 posts ago when you got exposed for ESL.
Wait hold on. I just found a guy on Tiktok who argued in favor of the word umami replacing savory. He also thinks all men should wear buttplugs and take estrogen. Why are you fighting this war for him?

>>21672740
I've only made 5 posts itt