Thread 21670826

I have an autoimmune disease and a family history of autoimmune health issues, I cant handle many seeds, grains or gluten, what kind of diet should I go on without restricting my diet too much? I am thinking that Keto would do me pretty well

Yeah keto would be good.

>>21670826 (OP)
Do you have issues with sugar or root vegetables? No reason to cut them out unless you're sure they cause problems. Fruit is generally helpful. Maybe eat cooked fruit instead which some people tolerate more.

There's an autoimmune diet protocol, it has a list of foods that are most likely to cause problems for you to avoid and see if it helps. Then you could slowly test things to see what you tolerate.

>i only have a problem with a small subset of foods. what diet do i go on that doesn't change things too much? i know, i will remove ALL carbohydrates!
this is why doctors always give ridiculous blanket treatments. the patient can never be trusted to make correct decisions

just give up dairy protein and see how fast your problems go away. (butter is fine)

milk is for babies, not a single adult of any species drinks milk.

>>21670917
I don't have any issues with dairy. Why does dairy in particular seem to make people mental when they have problems with it and say nobody else should have it either? People don't do that with peanut or fish allergies.

>milk is for babies, not a single adult of any species drinks milk.
It's not true milk but there are "dairying ants" that essentially do the same thing with aphids.

>>21670924
>I don't have any issues with dairy. Why does dairy in particular seem to make people mental when they have problems with it and say nobody else should have it either?
Are you the OP who says he has autoimmune problems?
So you don't know what foods are exacerbating your autoimmune issues, but you don't want to consider the possibility that casein might be playing a part?

try switching to A2 milk.

>>21670934
>Are you the OP who says he has autoimmune problems?
No.

>So you don't know what foods are exacerbating your autoimmune issues, but you don't want to consider the possibility that casein might be playing a part?
I did try giving up dairy or having A2 milk and it made no difference. Actually I felt worse with no milk.

Anyway my issues were legumes and starch. I'm doing a lot better since giving those up. But I'm not going to tell everyone that potatoes and peanuts are unnatural and they can't have them.

>>21670924
Lactose tolerance is a proven substantial genetic and civilizational advantage, so people without are guaranteed to seethe about it on some level.
Similar phenomena can be observed with short, stupid, and ugly people
>>21670826 (OP)
Sashimi does it for me

>>21670938
>But I'm not going to tell everyone that potatoes and peanuts are unnatural and they can't have them.
That's not what I'm saying. I said give it up and see if you feel better.
Why are you so resistant to somebody experimenting with exclusion diets to see what's causing the inflammation?

>>21670940
>Lactose tolerance is a proven substantial genetic and civilizational advantage, so people without are guaranteed to seethe about it on some level.
Lactose is a sugar. I'm not talking about lactose. I said protein (casein)

>>21670917
OP here
I dont think I could give up milk.
its the one food item I crave the most and I drink about a half a gallon a day and also a lot of cheese and kefir, is the protein actually that bad for you?

>>21670948
>its the one food item I crave the most and I drink about a half a gallon a day and also a lot of cheese and kefir, is the protein actually that bad for you?
Some people have casein sensitivity, this can be misdiagnosed as lactose intolerance (but it's different).
Switch to A2 milk for a couple weeks and see if your symptoms get better.
A2 milk has the inflammatory form of casein taken out.

>>21670948
No, whey and casein protein are literally the most bioavailable sources of protein and quite good for you as long as you're not allergic. It's also pasteurized, so perfect for an immunocompromised person.
Try Jersey/A2 milk and see how it works out for you

>>21670942
>milk is for babies, not a single adult of any species drinks milk.
This was the problem. Some people have issues with dairy and it can be worth trying to give it up to see if it helps. But saying stuff like that is just being dramatic and not contributing anything useful.

>>21670917
So, is your insinuation that if a behavior isn't found in nature, then it's disadvantageous to health

>>21670975
i think we should force immunocompromised people to eat raw wild-caught fish and see what happens

>>21670975
>So, is your insinuation that if a behavior isn't found in nature, then it's disadvantageous to health
No, my insinuation is that you can probably live just fine without it.

>>21670981
I just am trying to get a clearer picture of your logic flow here. Are you saying that if you can potentially live fine without it, you should live without it?

>>21670979
I think we should force people on this board to make coherent posts that are relevant to the post that they're replying to.

>>21670984
No. I'm suggesting a simple elimination diet.
If you stop eating something and you feel better, then you should probably stop eating it.

>>21670987
OK thanks for clarifying

>>21670985
it'd be funny

>>21671001
>>21670985

>>21671005
>>21670985

>>21671015
please refer to >>21671015

>>21670964
>it's also pasteurized, so perfect for an immunocompromised person

>>21670826 (OP)
Salt is a rock
Water is a solvent

>>21670826 (OP)
Ginger
Garlic
Berries
Citrus
Green tea
Your own piss

>>21670826 (OP)
You can go full carnivore as an elimination diet and slowly add back in foods that agree with you. Or try keto and only cut out the carb heavy foods. I am doing keto and it's going great.

>>21670880
Elimination diets have their place in determining what foods are safe. Animals contain all nutrients that animals need to stay alive.

>>21670917
Humans are animals. We've drank it for so long we are adapted to it now. Well, if you are white. Why would OP cut out a huge, nutritious foodgroup that he can digest without issues?

>>21670987
OP made no mention of milk. But identified other foodsthat cause him issues. Why are you so weirdly insistent on him cutting out milk and why did you open with a tired vegan talking point and not your actual, reasonable position?

>>21670826 (OP)
Well there is only about 7 foods eaten worldwide for caloric density, so there's not much to work out.

Wheat, rice, corn, potato's, meat, dairy and certain fruits (mostly bananas/plantains)

>>21670826 (OP)
>What foods to eat for immune health?
other than vitamin C almost nothing you eat has anything to do with immune health. it's all genetics, and how much you were exposed to germs as a child.

>>21671459
>Well, if you are white.
whites overall probably have the highest rate of lactase persistence across total population but there are significant numbers of african and middle easterners that are the same as well

>>21670826 (OP)
don't eat highly processed food, i.e. almost every ready made food from the supermarket since there is a shitload of potentially inflammatory chemicals in it

>>21670826 (OP)
Quinoautist here, I find it very easy to digest and it has great nutritional values. Key imo to avoid the saponins is to get the white quinoa (which means it has the hull removed) and to soak it for a while before cooking (i change the soak water twice)

>>21671587
What do you think the word significant means

>>21671875
opposite of (You)

>>21671879
Can you answer the question please

>>21671875
It’s what my roommate does if the UPS guy brings a package for me when I’m not home

>>21670917
non-european detected

>>21670917
No, I don't think I will.

>>21671178
me when my friend who goes to the geem to lift man made metal in a man made building suggests we go out to eat anti-nootrients

>>21670826 (OP)
>autoimmune disease
>immune health
I dont think you understand how autoimmune diseases work. If anything, you should avoid stuff that boost immunr system activity.

>>21670826 (OP)
Thats such a bad hair transplant

>>21670826 (OP)
I hope Goatis dies a horrible fiery death

if you have an actual autoimmune disease, you're fucked, I'm sorry and hope you manage
any advice doctors give you should be taken to heart

>>21673738
in my socialist country with free healthcare its impossible to get a doctor say anything productive unless you're severely ill

autoimmune diseases that cause chronic low level inflammation in your body arent easily diagnozed and require self medication

so, go try keto. It'll probably help

>>21670826 (OP)
Just die tobeh

>>21670826 (OP)
Rather than restrictions, I would focus on adding things into your diet that support the immune system. Vitamins A, C, D and Zinc in your diet are obviously important, but you could also consider foods with antimicrobial properties and foods that improve digestion.

Antimicrobial foods:
Garlic
Ginger
Turmeric
Cinnamon
Cloves
Cumin
Allspice
Nutmeg
Cilantro
Thyme
Basil
Oregano
Rosemary
Fenugreek
Tarragon
Bay leaf

Anti-inflammatory foods:
Green tea
Turmeric
Licorice root

Foods that improve digestion:
Probiotics (kefir, yogurt, kimchi etc)
Peppermint tea
Pineapple
Papaya
Mango
Figs
Kiwi fruit
Ginger
Dandelion
Turmeric
Fennel

Teas in general are very good for immune support. Green tea, earl grey tea, and all kinds of herbal teas from the list above. Masala chai contains multiple of the spices in this list, and is very tasty.

Basically to assist immunity you want to keep digestion moving as efficiently as possible. Most diseases are connected to poor gut health. You gotta poop more often OP. Aim for twice a day!

>>21675768
Bases herb embracer

>>21670826 (OP)
What food do i eat to get hairline this good?

>>21675922
That's a good hairline?

>>21675768
>Teas in general are very good for immune support.
Have to be careful because the caffeine in it can cause histamine issues and various things like that, some people don't tolerate it well. But there are plenty of caffeine free options if you need it. Rooibos tea is pretty good.

>Most diseases are connected to poor gut health.
I've been noticing this lately. Part of the issue for me was that I don't digest starch well so a lot of it just sat in my gut.

>>21675933
It's not just the caffeine in tea that can cause histamine issues. It's how the tea is prepared and stored. For example, black tea undergoes a fermentation process while it's stored. So even if you have decaf black tea, it's still a no-go for people with histamine intolerance.

>>21675980
What does this have to do with his hairline?

>>21675992
Ok