Thread 21676592

Thread for discussing coffee and coffee related topics.

Does it get any better than this? edition

If you're new and confused, start here: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLz

If you're old and confused whats your favorite cup?

Previous: >>21663835

noob here
>Hario Switch
>Kingrinder K6
>Beans in the pic

Why is this shit sour?
90 clicks, 92C, submersion for 4 min

Is it supposed to taste this way? First sips are not bad it's only when I get to the bottom where it gets very sour.

>>21676598
Oh and I used 225G of water

>>21676592 (OP)
>coffee station next to computer
yup, i would've lost my mind too

>>21676598
Grocery store verve gets another one.

>>21676598
as far as i know, light roasts need higher temps (97C)
also try grinding finer, i use ~50 clicks for my v60 cups (same grinder)

>>21676598
10 minute steep. Boiling water. Agitate for 10 seconds every minute.

>>21676614
>>21676620
Reee I was told to buy local
Anyways, when does coffee go stale?
Best by date is in January and it had the roast date in some weird Julian date format which according to that it was roasted on August 13th

>>21676640
Best by dates on coffee are typically 1 year out from the roast date. Verve could be different.

>>21676640
>local
just means not brands
like if a roaster is the next state over but only has like 1-2 roasting locations thats "local"
also you bought a light roast
which
1: harder to brew especially for noobs
2: have a higher chance of being sour(this could be a good thing and your palate is simply undeveloped and you are interpreting a good flavor as sour)

>>21676592 (OP)
PISS
OUT
MY
ASS

>>21676652
Poma?

Made some coffee this morning in a camping percolator because I didn't like how our coffee maker's hot plate would give the coffee a burnt taste.

i decided to stop paying the filter jew. i will just decant my coffee from the brewing cup from now on

SOUP

Did I finally hit a city roast or do those few darker beans disqualify me?

>>21676754
>city roast
these terms are meaningless
to me(if the lighting isnt too biased) looks like a medium/light
but to someone else this could be very light or just medium
as long as its not oily you're good.

>>21676667
You can do better, Anon.

>>21676768
agtron numbers are not meaningless

>>21676754
Looks very uneven.

>>21676754
This looks like any light roast I ever bought. Did it taste good?

>>21676777
>acktroon
whatever you say city boy

Been buying 3-4 bags of 8-12oz but I decided to get a 2lb bag this time around. I hope it's great.

>>21676754
Segregate the light from the dark beans and sell individually. :)

>>21676592 (OP)
>haha look at me destroying my stuff aren't I so quirky and le random
cringe

>>21676827
>destroying

>>21676827
you got rage baited, unc

>>21676802
Don't know I'm gonna wait a few days for them to degas. It's supposed to be a candy sweet anaroebic so hopefully it's good but it's giving me serious red bourbon vibes from the smell and while I like red bourbon I was hoping for a different kind of flavor

>>21676868
>days

i should try making coffee kombucha

>>21676883
I've done it. Doesn't work too well. Very little preservation of flavor, just makes lightly browned acetic acid water. Use decent puer instead.

>>21676885
how did you make it? if it's lightly browned, then you didn't brew it before hand did you?

>>21676895
Strained cold brew, flash brew, and hot brew cooled down to room temp(covered to minimize oxidation). Save yourself the hassle and skip it. Try a nice roasty oolong or something instead.

>>21676901
so did the color change to be lighter after the fermentation?

>>21676883
Coffeebooch is gem

>>21676923
> Very little preservation of flavor, just makes lightly browned acetic acid water
I'm referring to "brown" as a flavor, not the color of the kombucha. It seemed to strip any notes you'd expect to come through. Didn't try it with any fucked up coferments though.

>>21676938
oh okay. i don't care if it tastes less like coffee. in fact, i have enough experience to know that what comes into a fermentation is not what will come out of it. i just want an interesting caffeinated soda without putting caffeine powder into it

>>21676948
So make coffee soda?
https://youtu.be/f1vmP-QAA8Y

>>21676955
force carbonating doesn't give me the "interesting" part that comes from bacterial byproducts and transformation. people come up with all sorts of fermentation routines for coffee berries, so maybe i can find something that works good with the brewed coffee

>>21676837
>do something stupid
>hey that's stupid
>bruh u got rage baited
No you're just a child entertained by other children.

>>21676971
The interesting part of kombucha is the flavor. It seems like you just want to make some caffeinated tonic that'll make you shit your pants at record speed and velocity, regardless of the flavor.

>>21676992
yes perhaps you are right. i remember drinking ginger kombucha and getting some kind of nootropic boost from that alone. i want to know what feelings i will get from a shot of caffeinated kombucha

>>21676998
>drinking ginger kombucha
Now I could see making a coffee tincture and using that to flavor a ginger bug being interesting.

>>21676975
Damn unc, you boilin' rn ong

>>21677009
Ironic stupidity is still stupidity. You'll understand when you come of legal age.

>>21677007
are you aware of any other mental boosters? i want to make a real 1800s tonic now. ginger, coffee, whiskey, cocaine, morphine- oh wait mom said i can't get those. some ephedra tea should do

>>21677033
Been doing this shit for years. You havent lived until you've had ephedraspresso.

>>21677047
based. do you buy yours from a local chinese medicine shop or online?

>>21677024
>legal age.
not something you're familiar with.

>>21677082
If you have no Chinese stores near you, you can always buy Bronkaid/Primatene, it's behind-the-counter at pharmacies similar to Sudafed where they make sure you're not buying like 7 boxes to make into meth

>>21677146
i don't think that is a good idea. if they require ID to sell those, then they will quickly find out that you do not have a respiratory problem and put you on a watch list

>>21677135
God I wish, the things I could warn my young self to avoid. I certainly wouldn't be wasting my time here if I had made better life choices that's for sure.

>>21677153
Well I mean if you're taking multiple a day daily, not looking for an occasional ephedrine lift. Anyway you can't even get that stimmed off those tbf, they contain guaifenesin so unless you're competent at doing extractions I wouldn't recommend going over ~1g of guaifenesin

t. personal pharmacological experience

>>21677158
no i mean that you are cooked from your first purchase because they can reference your medical history from your ID
>customer buys a watched substance
>has no medical condition
>he is either a smurf or a cook

>>21677165
Well I have well documented lung problems going back 20 years and just visited an allergist a few weeks ago, so I guess that's just a problem for people with healthy lungoids like you :^)

>>21677170
anyways, i will see if my town has a chinese shop around. i have a feeling that none of them would stock it though

>>21677154
>wasting

>>21677178
That's the smarter move. I've tried there and they gave me a packet rather than the plant. I just want to try Mormon tea how they did out west 150 years ago, is that too big a thing to ask

Whoever said the Zp6 comes unscrewed while grinding is a dummy. You just didn't put it on good enough.

>>21677193
i heard that the ephedra variety that the mormons drank is not very potent compared to the chinese varient. i guess that's why crackheads haven't went and dug all of those wild plants up

>>21677201
>zp6 owners are low iq
IMAGINE MY SHOCK

>>21676598
>>21676618
Is it really light roast or is one of those medium roasts sol as light?
OP post a photo of the beans.

>>21677082
Used to buy kilos off ebay.

2 lbs of lychee

>>21676775
What's wrong with my pot? It makes me feel like a old fashioned and the brew comes out smooth. I think assembling it is also pretty fun.

Bought these beans yesterday. Pretty expensive but very nice cup this morning

it's morning
you know what that means right

>>21678072
are you in a wheel chair?

>coffeetards are literally disabled
jej

>>21678165
don't be rude

>>21678178
>wheel-y rude!
kek

>>21678165
wasnt there an anon in hospital?

>>21678165
>>21678182
We type 'lol' here, sir.

>>21678213
lmao even

>>21678072
You have to grease those things?

nothing like a saturday cuppa am i right fellas

>>21676827
millennials are just so heckin' quirky
>I'm adulting XD!

>>21676754
As you get more familiar with roasting you'll find color is a terrible way to judge a roast. Water loss, bean temperature, time to first crack, and duration of first crack are all far more important. Its pretty easy to roast something that looks like a medium roast that is very underdeveloped or stall out and stale a very light roast.

TWW is actually so good.

If my first cup of coffee on a new batch of beans is holding too much water, how do I fix this issue if I am not able to tell until the pour is done. Do I just send more water through the beans and then dilute the coffee I already made with it, or do I just taste the cup an toss it it (or turn it into a sugar drink) if it's bad and then brew another with the fixed ratio?

You should quit caffeine. It's not doing you any favors, it's bad for your teeth and, is a waste of money.

>>21678519
my dental health has gotten better since starting to drink black coffee
what's bad for your teeth is sugar and milk
>be le stains!!!
drink water after you finish your coffee
brush twice a day
its that easy

There's a sale at my store for Starbucks and Pete's. I tried the dark Peet's French Roast and it was a nice change of pace. About to open the Brazilian, can't remember the last time I had a single origin.

this gesha is hitting insanely good right now.

sad news
I was tossing the used grounds out of my switch into my compost pile and I lost the ball
normally I just lift the filter out and toss it, but the tab broke today

what size is the replacement? the consensus online seems to be 0.5 inch. is this correct?

>>21678783
>Diameter 12.7Φ
https://hario-parts-shop.com/products/sb-tdr-stainless-ball-for-dripper-part?variant=41024201785527

>>21678799
>12.7Φ
Yeah, 1/2 inch.

>>21678801
metric bros? i thought our system was more intuitive?

>>21678783
>replacement
https://hario-parts-shop.com/products/sb-tdr-stainless-ball-for-dripper-part?variant=41024201785527

>>21678802
But I love using units that are 1/10,002,000th of the distance from the equator to the north pole!

>>21678799
>Φ
surely they mean

>>21678846
ohh it disapeared!!

test

>>21678802
It is, it's just that this particular piece of kit is manufactured on imperial and then sold metric to avoid butthurt.

>>21678799
>Φ
this isnt metric because i've never seen it before.

Is it a good idea to buy a second hand grinder? Any chance it might be fucked somehow?

>>21678883
Yes. Also yes.

>>21678883
yes
yes
but almost all grinders/espresso machines can be easily repaired

>>21678890
>>21678891
ok, cheers

>switch to decaf
>start feeling more mentally ill
Anyone else drink decaf?

>>21679024
You consume too much caffeine

>>21679024
no because i'm not mentally ill

>>21679024
yes because i'm not mentally ill

>>21679024
more espresso for me dawg. But yeah, I feel like ass if I don't have 3 or 4 shots to start the day.

>>21679024
more espresso less depresso for me dawg. But yeah, I feel like ass if I don't have 3 or 4 shots to start the day.

some anons were hyping up the espresso/coke combo in some coke thread. I don't really drink sweetened soda, but I got curious, so I snagged a 6 pack of mini cokes. Did a little 2 cups of moka to 1 mini coke, and it was pretty good. Cooled of the moka with a little ice before mixing in the coke. Y'all tried this combo?

>>21679143
nah but i make my own cola flavoring so i might try using that instead of diluting it with soda

does decaf taste bad?
what brewing method would be good for arabica medium roast decaf? i like moka pots

>>21679143
buy an ad

>>21678515
whats your issue, exactly?
>>21679802
not necessarily
moka would probably work fine

>>21679024
coffee helps to supress schizophrenic episodes

>>21678161
Yeah how could you tell?
>>21678211
Me

Also reposting the setup I used at the hospital

>>21678284
What?

>>21679024
I switched to decaf and felt unstable for the first week, but I know it was caffeine withdrawals. Better to just keep it up with the decaf and get off the stims than to keep poisoning yourself. Just over 1 year sober and I feel way better on average now, good luck anon

>>21679998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2k-BNySLI

>>21680124
how much coffee do i need to drink before i start getting withdrawals? i don't feel anything whenever i decide to drink plain water instead

rate my coffee

instant coffee 300% recommended amount
2/3 hot water
1/3 3.8% fat milk straight from the fridge

>>21680131
>how much coffee do i need to drink before i start getting withdrawals?
1 coffee every day minimum for roughly 2 weeks
then 24-48 hours of no coffee withdrawal symptoms will start
then 1-2 weeks of no coffee to have no more withdrawal symptoms

>>21676592 (OP)
This little bitch looks exactly the way I thought he would.

>>21680149
ok i will see how i do once i finish this bag of beans that i got from a fundraiser. i don't really feel energized any more when i drink it so i may have hit some sort of tolerance. bag is almost empty

>>21680148
no

is percolated coffee any good? i imagine the constant boiling would make it taste burnt

>>21680131
For me I was drinking 2 cups a day on average before switching but I don't know if 1 cup would have been the same. I'd imagine it varies a lot based on the person. I also didn't feel too bad if I skipped a day, but two I felt a bit off sometimes and at 3-4 days felt kind of like shit.

>>21680174
no
yes
percolators either make weak unburnt coffee or strong burnt coffee
(moka also functions via percolation but it isnt A percolator as the coffee water doesnt go back over the beans over and over it goes through the beans once and into a separate vessel, but moka coffee can become burnt if you brew it wrong, its not set and forget which is how most people use it which is why it has a bad reputation, like steak would have a bad reputation if 99% of all people just threw it on the grill and burnt it to a crisp, it takes care and attention to cook it correctly)

>>21680174
no. I'd say it can be alright if you're camping or something, but even then just use a moka pot or french press. Maybe even instant or those 'teabag' things to make a cup

it's morning
you know what that means right

>>21679143
My boomer dad always mixed diet coke and a shot of espresso for his morning drink and I know Coke sold coffee cokes for a few years there.
Seems vile to me :^/

Any recommendations for cheap "good enough" beans to be used in milk drinks (lattes and maybe cortados) and iced coffee?

>>21680446
how cheap is cheap? I use aldi's basic medium just fine.
lavazza gold is also good if a little more expensive.

>>21679143
coke with espresso in creates a really nice foam in addition to the flavour of the drink

>>21679998
yummmy plastics

>>21680446
>Any recommendations for cheap "good enough" beans
S&W
>so be used in milk drinks
Just buy ground foldgers

>>21680553
I might give Lavazza a try but damn they're actually not cheap, ~22-25 dollars for 2 lbs
I remember back when I got into specialty coffee that an expensive coffee was only 15 dollars/lb

>>21680634
welcome to biden's america

>>21680647
how could biden tarrif brazilian coffee like that? what a clown!

>>21680647
Yeah sadly bidenflation is forever

>>21678763
june 1st washed guji 74110 & 74112 is popping the fuckk off

>>21680870
hell yeah.

I'm on my last few cups and then I'll be sipping the hydrangea washed lychee co-ferment

i just tried brewing with everclear while gradually adding water so i can extract a full spectrum. hopefully i don't die

>>21678763
havent had gesha for a while, hopefully my local store will have some again soon

When is the next batch of pepe jijon.... please

When was the last time you cleaned your kettle, /ctg/?

>>21680955
its clean enough

>>21680955
>poorover

why are immersion brews not very common? is it too strong for people?

>>21681048
people think its needs to be complex to taste good
the simplicity breaks their mind.

>>21681048
what would you propose? can you improve on the humble cafetiere?

>>21681196
i put a filter paper into a cylindrical strainer, put it into my cup, and fill it with the water and grounds. the grounds are always submerged until i am ready to drink it. lift the strainer out and let the remaining water drip through. i can gently lift the paper to squeeze it if it is too slow because of too many fines clogging it up

>>21681203
sounds like a poor mans aeropress

>>21681206
aeropress is squeezing all the way. i only squeeze the last bit out if i am not patient

>>21681206
poor mans switch more like

>>21681224
yes this is more like it

>>21680554
yeah, the foam was nice
>>21681048
That's how I(and everyone?) does cold brew

>>21680446
>milk drinks
pic related from costco. It's around eight dollars a pound and perfectly fine for milk stuff. It's actually not terrible for drinking black either.

...bros?

it's morning
you know what that means right

>>21682252
no, go back to bed.

>>21680446
I guess it depends on how low your standards are. Even with a latte but especially with a cortado you are still going to taste the coffee. At the very least you'd still want something roasted recently and not awful quality so I'd say like Happy Mug or S&W are as cheap as I'd go for "good enough" milk based drinks.

>>21680446
saka crema bar

>>21682304
survey time?
https://forms.office.com/r/26qLbYUuMJ

>>21677047
I got that on wish once. I don't think it did anything.

>>21682730
>wish

IT'S UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfSY1SXbiTI

>>21682741
It's no worse than any random shop in Chinatown.

dead general

>>21683637
We had an okay run.

>>21676592 (OP)
>didn't do a big thumbs up at any point of the video
Shame

drank a mega pint before the gym and my sweat STANK of coffee
kinda pleasant ngl

>>21683637
>>21683647
>>21683949
oh YEAH?! well im drinking coffee right NOW
its good
just finished my bag of Honduras :(
but i have some kenyan lined up next.

thoughts on picrel? snagged some at Aldi.

>>21684247
>Aldi
what kind of aldi?

it's morning
you know what that means right

>>21684259
an American one

Do you guys have your coffee before or after going to the gym? I always wait until I'm back from at least a run so I'm awake enough to make a good cup

>>21684295
why not both?
make an espresso before the gym
then make a pour over into a thermos to take with you to drink when you finish
or make an iced coffee instead so its cool and refreshing :)

>>21684307
I like to relax when I have my first drink of the day personally, so it's not great right before my workouts. That sounds nice if it works for you though

2/3 gesha natural, 1/3 sudan honey process
shit is hitting really good

>>21684295
before as a pre-workout.

Coffee causes me to sneeze and get psuedo allergic reactions some times
Coffee continues to trigger headaches more easily than synthetic caffeine

Idk after experimenting with returning to coffeemaxxin idk, I've gotten old and more sensitive

In fact I do feel I might get even more tired from coffee and the histamine reaction, like insane crashing

as a two decade coffee drinker the toxic bean juice might have finally did me in,

chat
I'm cooked

>>21685556
switch to other roasted stuff

For me its the other roasted stuff.

sometimes i wonder how many people throughout history have sucked cock for coffee money

During both world wars, when Germany was suffering under a naval blockade, real coffee and chocolate might have been enough to buy people.

>>21685678
>switch

>>21685882
>naval

tastes like black forest cake(but if you made it without any sugar) desu

it's morning
you know what that means right

>>21685678
>>21686080
Enjoy your microplastics

>>21680955
I run some citric acid through my electric once a month. The stovetop Hario doesn't really need it that often when I use soft bottled water with it.

>>21685678
drinking coffee this morning, sneezing and my nose leaking, lol

desu I might sell my brewer and quit coffee and go back to minimalism

I think it's finally time to upgrade my kettle.
I put my water on the highest setting (boil) to get as much extraction as possible without having to do an insanely aggressive pour or super fine grind, but I am losing around 20g in the bloom process. My kettle doesn't have a lot of settings, just 5 settings between 107f and 212f...
What's a decent kettle with good temp control, besides Stagg EKG... I see bitch about quality control issues all the time on that one.

>>21686371
I get to enjoy some delicious cold Hoffbrew?
>>21686637
Staggs are great. Mine will be 7 in spring. Don't listen to redditors bitching about kettles they don't own.

>>21686669
>Staggs are great. Mine will be 7 in spring. Don't listen to redditors bitching about kettles they don't own.
Okay good, because I really like the pepe one.

>>21686683
I've got a tiny bit of spout chipping from where I lazily set and scrape it on my flair but even that took a few years. Just be mindful. If you're banging it into shit all the time it'll eventually show wear. I could probably hit it with some fingernail polish or something.

>>21686698
I don't really mind. My current kettle has some dinks and chips around the lid area but it's around 8 years old at this point.

Two triple shots of espresso this morning. I already feel the need to shit

>>21686736
>triple

>>21686744
yep. triple basket and 22g of coffee each

>>21686757
>each
each what?

i made the french press recently after months of not touching it
it works so well for natural/fermeted coffees, it doesnt work so well for washed/honey
it is a bit stronger, the lack of paper filtration makes the bodier heavier, it is really sweet and boozy with anaerobics, and it doesn't have any silt in my cups (hoffmann recipe)
washed coffees dont work so well since there's a lot of chaff and (i think) washed coffees produce more fines in general
i dont remember liking it so much the last time ive made it, perhaps i used a coffee best suited for filter
good to know

>>21686764
coffee

IT'S UP!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r9tqPoyq3U

that fake tan looks terrible

I drink more coke zero than coffee now a days
it's over
it all started when I moved and had no brewer

>>21686920
>lol

>>21686181
extremely smooth coffee
both moka and pour over
probably the smoothest ive ever had.
will try espresso tomorrow
i actually had this reaction when i took my first sip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V5ZNcyCjnI
oh and its been resting for just over a month if that matters.

im going to brew one final batch and then quit for a month

>>21687127
No coffee November?

>>21687128
no joe november

>>21687138
Let's go brandon (I can't wait until your head explodes rip

>>21687143
i don't have a chemical dependence that would give me any headaches. i just don't feel much from single cups anymore so i need the break

>>21687152
>i don't have a chemical dependence that would give me any headaches
im jelly anon

im peanut butter anon

>>21687203
https://youtu.be/ze8NzXu-80g?si=dVNSrlPEf-F09JAh&t=5

>>21687215
>si=

I don't see an espresso thread so I'll ask here
Should I be like every other NPC and purchase a Bambino Plus and Encore ESP / DF54 and call it a day? I'm not familiar with an espresso machine that's less than twice the price. I'd primarily be making cortados

>>21687781
Yeah. Sounds good, bro.

>>21687781
I'd suggest going up to the df64 or the new meme shardor for wider 64mm access down the road.

>>21686773
>(hoffman recipe)
i rolled my eyes too hard and strained something and now my visijjun is
Bll

coffee soon

i just found how to make a coffee flavor without using any coffee. can i get rich off this?

>>21687957
COHEE NOW!

>>21688013
if it can be produced in the us, maybe
won't be long before fake coffee with caffeine added will be the only option
how'd you do it

>>21688069
>how'd you do it
i burnt some stuff in acid, slowly cooked some stuff in alkali, and then mixed them together

>>21688074
well what the stuff is is kind of important
is it something you can spin as being more sustainable than growing coffee? if so, you can try patenting it and getting some production going in preparation for when your only competition is hawaiian-grown coffee

>>21688080
well, the flavor part is very cheap and sustainable to produce. i don't know much about how most caffeine powder is produced. is it cheaper to synthesize it or does it all come from decaffeinated coffee?

>>21687878
>making cortados
>wider 64mm access
Not needed.

>>21688094
Yeah, it's pretty cheap to synthesize.

i thought black tea espresso would be a good idea while i take a break from coffee. my heart is racing now

>>21688106
>primarily be making cortados
Turns out you can make more than one thing :) Also SSP HU and Cv3 are pretty god damn good for milk drinks.

the heck is a "co-ferment"

it's morning
you know what that means right

>>21688335
>Co-fermented coffee is a processing method where producers ferment coffee beans with added ingredients like fruit, spices, or herbs to create unique and enhanced flavor profiles.

>>21688354
but what the heck was the co-ferment??

>>21688356
skub usually

Comfy cappuccino back at home earlier this morning. Made me realise how ugly and wet the rest of the world is compared to Italy. it’s probably the combination of the Alps and the mediterranean sea making the air so breathable and crystal clear. We really are an island squared.

>>21688369
Grim.

does anyone have that coffee taste map

gonna drink coffe when midnight strikes

>>21689067
the big circle one from the SCA?

>>21689087
>when midnight strikes
Will you be turning into a coffeepire or a werebean?

>>21689188
i'll find out in 10 minutes

>>21689380
how's the coffee in tel aviv?

>>21689404
never heard of time zones?

>>21676592 (OP)
So Ive never had expensive coffee before.
I bought fresh roasted brazillian coffee from a local roaster.
I use a pourover and have drank it a few days in a row.

It tastes very earthy and just like black tea. Is this normal?

>>21689652
>fresh
how fresh?
you need to rest it for 3 weeks anon.

>>21689900
They took it and ground it for me, so I assume they gave me stuff that was ready to go.

>>21689908
rip

>>21689652
>>21689908
probably not very good coffee, just being real with you

Think I'll make some coffee today. Wbu?

>>21690744
me too
maybe even 2

today is a fast day but black coffee is allowed

>>21690837
coffee has calories doe

>>21690852
lies and slander

>>21690858
espresso has 1 calorie
sorry bro but you failed ramadan.

At my friends house
>this is what moccamaster-cels are drinking

>>21690886
>Polished Silver instead of Yellow Pepper moccamaster

>>21690886
>breakfast blend
>the one without the rooster on it
ngmi :(

can someone redpill me on mocha? i tried using raw cocoa powder for it and it kind of sucks. do i have to use a chocolate bar?

>>21690907
describe your process and ingredients used.
but it is deceptively hard
it can often taste "dirty" even if you use great coffee and great hot chocolate and make both perfectly.
when combined they can taste a little dirty.

chocolate bar doesnt work because oil and water doesnt mix.
dont fall for tiktok bait.

>>21690935
i use something like this, and i put a big spoon of it into a cup and pour boiling water into it and wait a while since i know the starches have to unravel. then i mix it with some regular brewed coffee. mixed some milk and sugar into it too. i guess the biggest problem is that the powder has too much particles even after being boiled. should i be filtering or decanting the cocoa? or would that make it taste weak

>>21690951
oh anon...

>>21690953
where's my redpill at?

>>21690957
bottom of the bargain bin brokie.
this might appeal to your normie tastes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQax3My4gF8

>>21690860
>ramadan
iont think they drink anything either

>>21690935
retard

>>21690951
>>21690907
Get the darkest drinking chocolate (ie, cocoa + sugar) mix with the least amount of extra ingredients you can find. You need sugar to balance the bitterness of the chocolate + coffee (at least in my opinion) and getting it in the one package makes it less of a fuck about than doing two spoons of cocoa and then more spoons of sugar.
I eventually found a 40% cocoa, 60% sugar mix with no additional ingredients that was in bulk and didn't have a huge markup over the smaller bags of cocoa powder. Alternative buy a bag of cocoa powder and a bag of sugar that's the same amount and mix them in a container.
Use an electric whisk/blender with the coffee shot to mix it well, pour that into the hot milk.

>>21691784
so you don't have to prepare the cocoa before mixing? i thought you reduce the grittiness by letting it soak up water. it makes me wonder if raw cocoa powder is different from what everyone else is using like the alkalized stuff

>>21691790
Use a small sifter to put it into the cup, or a plastic fork (I suppose a distribution tool would work great now that I think about it) to mix it up to remove clumps but I don't think it needs to be "prepared".
The grittiness comes from having particles suspended in a liquid. You can't avoid it just by soaking it, but starting by adding a hot liquid to the powder and then mixing it before adding milk (even if the milk is hot), and then continuing to mix it while aerating it is the best way I've found to distribute the particles as widely as possible. Milk is 90% water in the first place, so you're trying to introduce the additional sugar & cocoa particles into the water + fat mixture that is milk.
The dutch process changes the chemical makeup and colour but the physical characteristics of grain size don't change.

>>21691810
the commercial mocha i have tried did not have any perceivable particles, so i think they either use melted chocolate or they do some kind of filtering procedure. i can try to just brew the coffee and put the powder and sugar directly into that and use the electric whisk as you suggested

>>21691823
If it was using cocoa butter (probably a good 70% to ~80% dark chocolate) it would make grainess less or non-perceptible.

>>21690907
Drink in moderation. All of them have significant lead taint.

>>21690766
>maybe even 2
i did
it was good

it's morning
you know what that means right

>in-laws coming over
>time to bring out the boomer beans
who knows this feel

>>21677154
>if I could go back I would force myself to swallow normie slop just to avoid a place that... let's you say what you want?
Just leave brother

ok so after careful consideration, i've reached the conclusion that 2 weeks (and maybe a few extra days) of resting gives you the best espresso

>>21692188
what roast level tho?
did you test 6 different roasts of the same beans?
light
light medium
medium
medium dark
dark
oily dark
if not then your test is meaningless

>>21692217
i only drink medium espressos, nothing personal (it is)

>>21692249
>gives you the best espresso
probably should have said "me" if you were only talking about yourself
:)

>>21690907
espresso
cocoa powder
sugar
steamed milk

Very tempted to make a cup of this washed lychee co-ferment. Only rested for 6 days. Fuck it?

>>21692404
>flavored coffee
it's not gonna make a difference

Even the bait is worse now.

>>21692500
Guess not. Just brewed a cup and it's fucking amazing.

>>21692548
let me guess
it tastes like hot lychee water?

>>21692548
want to note for the public record that >>21692578 is not >>21692500 (Me)

>>21692578
It tastes like joe

>>21692588
arent joe glad i didnt say orange?

>>21692633
a cup of joe mama

Made some coffee :)

>>21693036
You can only imagine how much
>sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp
I'm having.

Monthly reminder to maintain your coffee equipment
>descale your espresso machine
>backflush!
>descale your kettle
>clean under your moka pot gasket
>clean out your grinder burrs
And not coffee related, but also clean out your washing machine filter!

>>21693099
>descale your espresso machine
I only use distilled water without scaling minerals :)
>backflush!
waste of water
>descale your kettle
see above
>clean under your moka pot gasket
don't use the meme pot
>clean out your grinder burrs
every rotation

i don't want to disassemble my k6...
i'm scared...

>>21693207
you don't need to anyway.

>>21693099
reminder this is what happens to your brain when you drink tap water

>>21693232
are you sure
what if I use beans that are more of a medium roast

thoughts on this hand mill? sweet maria's vouches for it but i wonder how good it really is when it's only $64. doesn't say anything about the coating material for the burr
https://www.sweetmarias.com/easy-adjust-hand-grinder-with-ss-burrs-black.html

>>21693301
>what if I use beans that are more of a medium roast
pretty sure you can just blast it with air and get all the dust out.

>>21693344
I thought people cleaned it to get nasty old coffee oil off with aggressive brushing

>>21693348
i use the coffee oils to season mine like a cast iron

>>21693350
cast iron is seasoned by heating that oil up to like 400f so it polymerizes

>>21693328
Just buy a k6 (or 7).

>>21693388
That just polymerizes it faster. it will do it at air temp over months.

>>21693328
>https://www.sweetmarias.com/easy-adjust-hand-grinder-with-ss-burrs-black.html
>no mention of burr geometry
Probably a generic pentagonal. Not that great, but not bad given the price point. Could get similar grinders for cheaper direct from China. Or a better grinder for a similar price.

>>21693344
don't do this with compressed air, a lot of them have bitterants added to stop kids from getting high and it will fuck up the taste of anything you grind in for ages.

I enjoy espresso and lattes. I've used a moka pot for years and families breville barista express but the built in grinder always takes a shit and they have had to return it twice. I moved in with my gf so we want our own setup. I'm not interested in a machine/grinder combo. What are my best options? Maybe $600-800 for espresso machine + grinder.

>>21693515
Gaggia and a df64. Wait 3 weeks and you can probably snag black friday sales.

>>21693515
You'll probably be happy enough with a Bambino and a DF54.

>>21693515
rok gc
rok grinder
simple as.

>>21693570
>>21693588
>>21693619
>3 different answers
lol fuck

>>21693629
One of those doesn't steam milk for lattes, one of them you're familiar with the brand and how cheap their shit is. Process of elimination my friend.

>>21693629
>>3 different answers
one is a joke answer
one is outdated information
one is correct but a subtle jab at your intelligence

it's morning
you know what that means right

>>21693501
>don't do this with compressed air, a lot of them have bitterants added to stop kids from getting high
You can get an air compressor or an electronic air duster for around $100

Anybody else feel like using expensive beans for espresso is kinda a waste? I can barely tell a difference most of the time

>>21694280
that's because you have no taste anon
it's ok

>>21694280
>t. average encore owner

>>21694344
I'm saying that the difference between shots of espresso using beans A and B feels far smaller than the difference between using beans A and B in pour over

Should I buy:
>12 oz for $28
>2 lbs/32 oz for $72
Never had these beans before

>>21694659
Well post em.

Is it worth upgrading from a Lido 3 for V60? I've been out of the game for a few years.

>>21694849
Unless you're needing to fit 70g in the hopper, yes.

you do realize we're dying, right?

>>21694873
we?

>>21694873
Make a new if you feel like it. Maybe we'll get some activity from people bitching about the pic.

Fresh Piss

>>21694953
>>21694953
>>21694953