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Anonymous No.21698768 [Report] >>21698781 >>21698783 >>21698913 >>21699336 >>21699536 >>21699844 >>21699864 >>21699940 >>21700032 >>21700091 >>21700311 >>21700371 >>21704523 >>21707156 >>21707840
Is eating a lot of fat really that bad?
Anonymous No.21698776 [Report] >>21700366 >>21702291 >>21706684 >>21707658
It's fine. Look at Inuit life expectancy.
Anonymous No.21698781 [Report] >>21700349
>>21698768 (OP)
If you stay within your caloric needs it's mostly harmless.
Anonymous No.21698783 [Report] >>21698784 >>21698860 >>21700371 >>21700628 >>21702632
>>21698768 (OP)
Depends on the type of fat. Unsaturated fats can help reduce cholesterol levels and risk of heart disease, while saturated and trans fats do the opposite.
Anonymous No.21698784 [Report] >>21698813 >>21700271
>>21698783
saturated fat may not be an issue unless you're already metabolically unhealthy at which point you have more problems than just your saturated fat intake. just like how sugar isn't great for a type 2 diabetic but a person who isn't already unhealthy doesn't have any issue consuming it.
Anonymous No.21698813 [Report] >>21698860 >>21698922 >>21699547
>>21698784
No, there is a correlation between saturated fats and high LDL cholesterol leading to cardiovascular disease. Saturated fats inhibit the body's ability to clear LDL from the bloodstream, leading to clogged arteries.
Anonymous No.21698860 [Report] >>21698907
>>21698783
Cholesterol doesn't cause heart disease, that's like blaming the firefighters for the fire.
>>21698813
>correlation
Exactly. It's never been proven to be causal.
Anonymous No.21698907 [Report]
>>21698860
There are good and bad types of cholesterol. LDL gets stuck in the bloodstream and causes heart disease. HDL helps organs function and removes LDL. All of this is well established along with my previous statement about Saturated fats. Stop being a bot.
Anonymous No.21698913 [Report] >>21698914 >>21699940
>>21698768 (OP)
Saturated fat is really bad for your health, especially your heart health.
Anonymous No.21698914 [Report] >>21698923
>>21698913
Bullshit you fucking goygolem
Anonymous No.21698915 [Report] >>21707892
>All these reddit responses
Maybe you fags should just stay there
Anonymous No.21698922 [Report]
>>21698813
and the risk factors for high LDL are probably the same as high blood sugar and everything else. obesity, alcoholism, smoking. doesn't seem like people have an issue with saturated fat or sugar or anything else that's a natural food if they avoid those things.
Anonymous No.21698923 [Report] >>21698932 >>21698935 >>21699350 >>21699524 >>21699532 >>21709366
>>21698914
This is a settled matter in medical science, there is no debate on the subject. Influencers want you to distrust doctors only for you to buy their books, they don't care about you at all.
Anonymous No.21698932 [Report]
>>21698923
>This is a settled matter in medical science, there is no debate on the subject
Wrong.
https://youtu.be/UzyAVqPaSrk?si=0KEuW4g3KWKuDBdx

>Longitudinal Data From the KETO-CTA Study: Plaque Predicts Plaque, ApoB Does Not
https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacadv.2025.101686
Anonymous No.21698935 [Report] >>21699858 >>21707898
>>21698923
there are plenty of good reasons to distrust doctors. they've gone through the training, it doesn't mean they apply it appropriately or actually give a shit about you either more than how much money they can squeeze out of you. i distrust doctors because they've given improper treatment every time i went to them and made things worse. i don't trust influencers or think they care about me either, they can be just as awful. but science is an ongoing process and things change and people can be wrong.
Anonymous No.21699336 [Report]
>>21698768 (OP)
If you don't eat carbs it's fine to eat all the fat you want.
Anonymous No.21699350 [Report] >>21699363
>>21698923
>science
>settled
no
Anonymous No.21699363 [Report]
>>21699350
Especially medical science. Literally nothing is settled in medicine.
Anonymous No.21699524 [Report]
>>21698923
Nutritional science is notoriously bad, often basing decades of knowledge on one laughably bad study from 1932 funded by big lettuce or some shit
Anonymous No.21699532 [Report] >>21699855
>>21698923
Oh my heckin science seed oils are great
Anonymous No.21699536 [Report]
>>21698768 (OP)
If all of your fat comes from slop then yeah, if it comes from animals it's good for you
Anonymous No.21699547 [Report] >>21704372
>>21698813
>there is a correlation between saturated fats and high LDL cholesterol leading to cardiovascular disease.

i had a cardiologist tell me the opposite when i asked him directly

he said high cholesterol is not a significant predictor of cardiovascular disease.

he said the two main predictors are high blood pressure and family history. cholesterol IS NOT one of them
Anonymous No.21699844 [Report]
>>21698768 (OP)
if its animal fat, youre gonna be fine
just dont have a high carb intake at the same time
Anonymous No.21699855 [Report]
>>21699532
They are though. Japanese people eat tons of seed oils every year and they live to be a 100. The main question is small portions and physical activity.
Anonymous No.21699858 [Report]
>>21698935
>i distrust doctors because they've given improper treatment every time i went to them and made things worse.
How many times have you gone to a doctor? If it's anything more than just a few then your definition of "improper treatment" is probably that he didn't put his finger up your bum when you asked.
Anonymous No.21699864 [Report]
>>21698768 (OP)
Not really, grease is slippery so when it adheres to the veins and arteries it actually helps with blood flow since it reduces friction.
You should aim to eat at least 1 kilo of lard per day.
Anonymous No.21699873 [Report] >>21699875 >>21699879 >>21699908
saying cholesterol blocked your fatass arteries is like saying firefighters caused water damage in your burning house
if you dont eat carbs all day your bloodsugar and blood pressure wont spike and not rip your arteries by constant overpressure
and so cholesterol will have no reason to accumulate because there is no damage it has to plug
Anonymous No.21699875 [Report]
>>21699873
They all contribute.
Anonymous No.21699879 [Report] >>21699886 >>21702637
>>21699873
>if you dont eat carbs all day your bloodsugar and blood pressure wont spike and not rip your arteries by constant overpressure
saying carbs spike your blood pressure and rip your arteries is like overfilling your bathtub then saying water is bad because it damaged your floor

people who eat normal amounts don't accumulate severe damage just from eating carbs. people who overeat end up damaging their bodies because it's more than they can process. once your insulin receptors are worn out then sugar stays in your blood and causes damage because it has nowhere to go. this doesn't happen if you're not always overeating.

the causes as to why people overeat can be a bit varied and complex, it's not simply a personal failure. but everything causes problems if you're eating too much. you can drink too much water at one time and kill yourself, it doesn't mean water is bad.
Anonymous No.21699886 [Report]
>>21699879
This post is too well-reasoned for a board like this, you'll just get retards pounding the table about their favorite diet-related thing to hate and pretending that their personal boogeyman is to blame.
Anonymous No.21699887 [Report] >>21699891
People with enough brain cells to type on a computer or phone believe carbs clog your arteries despite zero evidence for this. The future will be interesting.
Anonymous No.21699891 [Report] >>21699908
>>21699887
who ITT said that?
Anonymous No.21699908 [Report] >>21699909
>>21699891
Xim
>>21699873
Anonymous No.21699909 [Report]
>>21699908
can you not read?
Anonymous No.21699911 [Report] >>21700648
Gordan Ramsay adds olive oil to everything
Anonymous No.21699940 [Report]
>>21698913
1960 called it wants its grain lobby funded health advice back
>>21698768 (OP)
It is only bad if you are fat because being fat is bad. As long as you are a healthy body fat % then it does not matter.

Sugar is way worse because that is bad even if you are skinny.
Anonymous No.21700032 [Report]
>>21698768 (OP)
you can eat lots of fat, but then just eat way less simple carbs
if you mix fat with sugar, your body will have harder time to burn it and you will gain weight, and what is worse, you will have fucked up blood pressure
it is so easy to understand, but since you act like you dont know this or you dont want to know this, then this thread is just shit filler to rage bait people (since we on 4chan know the truth that fat is not as evil as industry was telling us for the last 70 years)
Anonymous No.21700091 [Report]
>>21698768 (OP)
Anonymous No.21700271 [Report]
>>21698784
>just like how sugar isn't great for a type 2 diabetic but a person who isn't already unhealthy doesn't have any issue consuming it.
still people who eat like shit look like shit, have shit metabolic health and shit energy levels.
Anonymous No.21700311 [Report]
>>21698768 (OP)
that looks like lechon kawali
Anonymous No.21700314 [Report] >>21700323
You shart eventually.
Anonymous No.21700323 [Report]
>>21700314
sooner or later, we all shart
Anonymous No.21700334 [Report] >>21700438
Only if you eat it with a lot of carbs and sugar.

I lost 30 pounds on Keto in less than a year without any exercise and I ate a lot of beef and pork fat. A LOT.
Anonymous No.21700349 [Report]
>>21698781
>If you stay within your caloric needs it's mostly harmless.
I mean, I feel like it's pretty simple. Diets high in fat also tend to be high in carbs due to the generally poor dietary habits of the western world, which means you're taking in too many calories, which means you're getting fat, which puts strain on basically every vital system in your body, including and especially your cardiovascular system. I'm sure some doctor will say which variety of cholesterol is good or bad, or which fats are good or bad, but I feel like we're stepping over dollars to pick up pennies because the thing both of those seem to coincide pretty heavily with being fat.
Anonymous No.21700366 [Report] >>21700463
>>21698776
Inuit don't lay on the sofa all day eating corn chips and masturbating though
Anonymous No.21700371 [Report]
>>21698768 (OP)
See >>21698783
Anonymous No.21700438 [Report] >>21700635 >>21704701
>>21700334
Now do a lipids test
Anonymous No.21700463 [Report]
>>21700366
Maybe they should.
Anonymous No.21700628 [Report]
>>21698783
Kill your self
Anonymous No.21700632 [Report]
You will ascend once you find out about fat quality and feed impact
Basically yes even pork is healthy if you don’t feed it onions lmao
Anonymous No.21700635 [Report]
>>21700438
Cram your lipid test up your ass kike
Anonymous No.21700648 [Report] >>21701521
>>21699911
French people add butter to everything and have less heart disease than Americans.
Anonymous No.21701521 [Report] >>21702356
>>21700648
but they drink wine that helps them with higher fat consumption, right? wine is so good, just one glass of wine works as medicine
Anonymous No.21702291 [Report] >>21706689 >>21707581
>>21698776
most carnivore groups are brainrotted but god switching over to the raw meat diet gets tempting, idk why ppl retconned humans eating uncooked meat its so annoying
Anonymous No.21702356 [Report]
>>21701521
I'd look at availability of donor livers and the standard of care in those countries to what gets you on their transplant list. But more importantly, that chart is just fucking raw numbers, not per capita. Look at a population chart for europe and it tracks pretty closely to that graph.
Anonymous No.21702632 [Report] >>21704363
>>21698783
PUFAs will give you a FUPA fyi
Anonymous No.21702637 [Report]
>>21699879
>it doesn't mean water is bad
Like from the toilet?
Anonymous No.21703194 [Report]
Eating too much bad, doesn't matter what.
Anonymous No.21704363 [Report]
>>21702632
… then have unsaturated fats that aren’t pufas if you’re that wary of them
Anonymous No.21704372 [Report] >>21704727 >>21704739
>>21699547
You’re either lying or he’s retarded and anti-consensus for some unknown reason or you misunderstood him and misconstrued his words. Considering you said “cholesterol” when that anon specifically mentioned LDL when “cholesterol” exists as its own term both medically and nutritionally, the last point is guaranteed - it’s only a question of if the first two are true or not. Your adherence for a supposed professional medical opinion despite it being the opposite of the consensus of medical opinions shows you care less about what’s right, and more about being right.

Saturated fats increasing LDL cholesterol which directly leads to cardiovascular disease is a known and reproducible and observable chain of processes. It’s axiomatic. Gorge yourself with butter and steaks if you want, you only have yourself to blame. And be sure to do the insecure carnivore retard dieter thing where you assume critics must only guzzle candy and canola oil and processed vegan meat substitutes as if that’s the only diet option if you opt to eat less saturated fats.
Anonymous No.21704523 [Report]
>>21698768 (OP)
Hong Kong is now one of the highest life expectancy cities in the world and also has one of the highest per capita pork consumption in the world as well. Eating pork belly isn't going to make you die sooner. Not exercising at all will.
Anonymous No.21704541 [Report]
As a kid I hated the fat on steaks and pork. Now it's the best part.
Anonymous No.21704701 [Report]
>>21700438
For what? I've never felt better.
Anonymous No.21704727 [Report] >>21704729
>>21704372
>Nooooo don't eat natural meat and butter!
>Eat carbs and vegetable oils instead
Lmao kys shill. Ain't no one buying your shit here.
Anonymous No.21704729 [Report] >>21704747
>>21704727
are carbs unnatural? what makes butter more natural than seed oil?
Anonymous No.21704739 [Report]
>>21704372
>Saturated fats increasing LDL cholesterol which directly leads to cardiovascular disease is a known and reproducible and observable chain of processes
No it's not. Look at Dave Feldman's research.
Anonymous No.21704747 [Report] >>21705165 >>21706776
>>21704729
>are carbs unnatural
Sort of. In the form and amount we eat them today carbs are unnatural to the human diet. We increased the carb content of all grains, fruits and some vegetables through selective breeding. The plants our ancestors ate were not nearly as carb heavy as modern ones.

>butter vs. seed oil
Well, butter is an animal fat that we have consumed in one form or another for many hundreds of thousands of years. Butter is simply churned to make it clump up.
Seed oils are a neo food group that was invented only about a century ago and requires industrial processing and treatment.
Anonymous No.21705165 [Report] >>21706656
>>21704747
based fact poster who doesnt jump to conclusions
Anonymous No.21706656 [Report]
>>21705165
Thanks. I hate that most people post absolute garbage or just make up stuff just to post.
Anonymous No.21706684 [Report] >>21706749 >>21706874
>>21698776
well this is somewhat disingenuous because you are not inuit and have not been generationally conditioned to eat literal blubber
however without the addition of lots of carbohydrates and UPF shit a high fat high protein diet is good
Anonymous No.21706689 [Report] >>21706782
>>21702291
i was like you, then i got taeniasis
Anonymous No.21706749 [Report]
>>21706684
The Inuit are an edge case of extreme carnivorism. Other peoples ate diets of about 2/3 animal food sources (meat, fat, fish). Shellfish and muscles was huge. Which makes total sense, since why would you laborously gather roots if you can just pick some shells or plunder a birds nest?

Only with the beginning of agriculture did man start to rely on carbohydrates as his main source of calories. With severe consequences for nourishment, bones and health as the fossil record shows.We ate carbs before, like in seasonally available berries and as honey. But it became the main food very late in our development.
Anonymous No.21706776 [Report] >>21706832 >>21706832
>>21704747
>plants
There's a possibility that our ancestors were eating more honey than we realize.

> Butter is simply churned to make it clump up.
You can simply grind nuts/seeds and extract the oil too. I agree that modern processing methods aren't healthy but people have probably been grinding nuts and seeds for just as long. Look at natural peanut butter, it's just peanuts being ground into a paste and the oil separates unless you add some kind of stabilizer.
Anonymous No.21706782 [Report] >>21707138
>>21706689
say taeniasis three times super fast. you can't
Anonymous No.21706832 [Report] >>21706859
>>21706776
Honey was most definitely well liked and sought after. It was hardly a main stable however. There is no way that our ancestors ate enough honey to come anywhere close to our carbohydrate intake. Wild bees do need time and space to farm honey.

Another argument against high consumptions of carbohydrates is how poorly our teeth are doing on a high sugar, high fruit and or high carbohydrate diet. Our teeth are simply healthier on a diet low in carbs and high in fats and proteins.

>>21706776
Man has eaten animal fats for a million years. It is theorized that early hominids kickstarted their brain growth by learning how to crack bones with stones to get at the marrow. The peanut was domesticated between eight and nine thousand years ago and took quite a while to reach its modern, fat rich form. Sure people ate plants that contained some fats. But most of those were either available only a few weeks of the year or had to be domesticated, after the dawn of agriculture, to increase the fat content.

Lastly, seed oils have an actual definition. Seed oils specifically refers to a group of industrial products that came about around the turn of the 20th century. The production process involves bleaching, refining and heating.
Anonymous No.21706859 [Report] >>21707733
>>21706832
>It was hardly a main stable however.
Modern hunter-gatherers consume loads of honey, if that's any indication of things. Teeth issues seem to be more from dry starchy foods. That's when starch gets stuck in your teeth and starts causing decay more rapidly although obviously it's not the only time it happens, just the worst case of it.

I was just using peanut butter as an example that most people would be famiiar with. Tree nuts have been eaten for around a million years as well and are naturally rich in fat.

>Seed oils specifically refers to a group of industrial products
No, it's oil from seeds. This is the first time I've heard someone try to define it as including the industrial processing methods. Otherwise people wouldn't think something like avocado oil was a fine alternative to seed oils when it's processed in similar ways.
Anonymous No.21706874 [Report]
>>21706684
You mean normal people would do even WORSE?
Anonymous No.21706886 [Report] >>21707733
whether or not an activity was done in the past will never be a valid discussion in the evaluation of current or future optimal activities
Anonymous No.21707138 [Report] >>21708283
>>21706782
thats not even hard anon teh-knee-uh-sis
Anonymous No.21707156 [Report]
>>21698768 (OP)
ew
Anonymous No.21707161 [Report] >>21707603 >>21707804 >>21708607
There is no robust data suggesting saturated fat causes atherosclerosis:
https://academic.oup.com/eurjpc/article-abstract/29/18/2312/6691821
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31841151/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2824152/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109720356874
https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/4/4/e004487

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9794145/
>Thus, from 1961 on, the AHA recommended that all men (and subsequently women) decrease their consumption of saturated fat, replacing these fats whenever possible with polyunsaturated vegetable oils, as the most promising measure of protection against heart disease.
>The 1961 American Heart Association advice to limit saturated fat is arguably the single-most influential nutrition policy ever published, as it came to be adopted first by the U.S. government, as official policy for all Americans, in 1980, and then by governments around the world as well as the World Health Organization. It is worth noting that the AHA had a significant conflict of interest, since in 1948, it had received $1.7 million, or about $20 million in today's dollars, from Procter & Gamble (P&G), the makers of Crisco oil. This donation was transformative for the AHA, propelling what was a small group into a national organization.
Anonymous No.21707581 [Report] >>21707611 >>21707954
>>21702291
Modern food farming and processing is so disgusting and vile that all kinds of bacteria and diseases thrive they must be cooked out. In the Hunter gatherer societies raw meat was eaten fresh from the kill and with next to no processing.
Raw meat is still theoretically fine if you actually source it and kill it fresh
Anonymous No.21707603 [Report] >>21707743
>>21707161
tell me all about how these countries eat a lot of saturated fats, go ahead, I'll grab the popcorn
Anonymous No.21707611 [Report] >>21707624
>>21707581
>In the Hunter gatherer societies raw meat was eaten fresh from the kill and with next to no processing.
most wild animals have parasites. wild boar and bear in particular are extremely dangerous to eat undercooked/raw because of trichinosis. hunter-gatherers might eat raw parts selectively at times but they would still generally cook their food.
Anonymous No.21707612 [Report]
>AI
Anonymous No.21707624 [Report] >>21707655
>>21707611
trichinosis is healthy
Anonymous No.21707655 [Report] >>21707779
>>21707624
not falling for it, worm
Anonymous No.21707658 [Report] >>21707683 >>21707713 >>21707799
>>21698776
>Modern Inuit have lifespans 12 to 15 years shorter than the average Canadian's, which is thought to be influenced by factors such as their diet...
Anonymous No.21707683 [Report] >>21708609
>>21707658
But good on you for actually checking.
Anonymous No.21707713 [Report]
>>21707658
Worthless unless you compare the Innuit to Canadians as poor as them. They live in Canadas far north....
Anonymous No.21707733 [Report] >>21707776
>>21706886
We aren't talking about engineering or programming, but about the human diet. What we did in the past is important because one, it shaped what is optimal for us and two, the most optimal practices have the advantage in being passed down to and descendants.

>>21706859
I already agreed that honey was sought after. There is no way though that it made up like 2/3 of daily calories for our ancestors like starch does in modern diets. We gathered data on this from peoples still living as hunter gatherers in the 19th or early 20th century. We have archeological records from older periods. 2/3 animals, 1/3 plants (and technically honey I guess).

>seed oils
The oils that catch flak and are critiqued as seed oils fall in the category of industrial product invented in the 20th century. Don't give a fuck really. Just wanted to answer your question why seed oils are more unnatural than butter. Thqt's the answer, because these oils are made and changed into a form that does not appear in nature.
Anonymous No.21707743 [Report] >>21707752
>>21707603
Singapore has a meat consumption of 70kg annually per person. In Spain it is at over 100kg. The odd one out is Japan with 49kg per person.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption

Anyway, all you have is circumstantial data that some AI dragged up? Versus actual studies with thousands of in-clinuc test subjects? You're a fucking loser who can't admit when he is wrong.
Anonymous No.21707752 [Report] >>21707779
>>21707743
cool story bro, if saturated fats were le healthy US would be peak capital of health
git rekt faggot
Anonymous No.21707776 [Report] >>21707783 >>21708234
>>21707733
Hunter-gatherers have been documented getting half their calories from honey during times when it's abundant. They frequently say honey is their favorite food. And they did eat roots and fruit too. But that was when it was most abundant, not every day. Just like I'm sure during some parts of the year they'd eat more meat and less plants.

Aren't wild animals generally fairly lean too? Except for maybe arctic animals that need blubber for warmth. But generally warmer climate animals don't have that much fat. So even if animals made up a larger part of your diet in those regions, you wouldn't really be consuming all that much animal fat. Modern farmed animals produce a lot more fat so we can't really say that's how ancient people were eating too.

I think the dangers of animal fat are overblown. I regularly consume quite a bit more saturated fat from animal products than the recommended limit. But I also feel good eating plant fats as well sometimes in fairly large amounts. I try to get it more from whole sources like nuts, seeds, avocado, olives, etc. rather than processed seed oils.

I dunno. This stuff is complicated and far from solved. You should probably just do what makes you feel best and show the highest signs of health because everyone thrives on something different. I don't think animal fat is as bad as some people say but I also think it's silly when someone tries to say you'll become a god if you eat bacon butter beef bombs.
Anonymous No.21707779 [Report] >>21707785 >>21707788
>>21707655
Lookup helminthic therapy. People infect themselves with it.
>>21707752
Soybean oil is the most consumed oil in America. Americans are sick because of wheat, corn and soy. All junk food is plant based.
Anonymous No.21707783 [Report] >>21707802
>>21707776
>during times when [honey was] abundant.
Yes, and? In the weeks when the berries were in season our ancestors also ate a lot of those. That's not the modern diet though, which has carbs as a main source of daily calories all day, all year. And something can be your favourite food and be a rare treat you only get to eat sometimes.

>wild animals generally lean
Yeah, depends on the species. Our ancestors apparently prefered female animals and the very young ones.

>you'll become a god if you eat bacon butter beef bombs
Hush. Don't reveal our secrets.
Anonymous No.21707785 [Report]
>>21707779
they eat the worst quality Mc Golem feed meat, filled to the brim with saturated fats, it's specifically designed to get you sharting yourself and rekting your heart so you're hooked for life on heart pills
enjoy retard
Anonymous No.21707788 [Report] >>21707798
>>21707779
>Lookup helminthic therapy. People infect themselves with it.
pic related it's good for you eat ze vurm
Anonymous No.21707798 [Report]
>>21707788
>retards are retarding
woah that means that eating mc golems feed is really healthy for you
Anonymous No.21707799 [Report]
>>21707658
>has nothing to do with their rampant alcoholism
Moshe, I ...
Anonymous No.21707802 [Report] >>21707804
>>21707783
>Hush. Don't reveal our secrets.
your secret is clogged arteries, absolute fucking retard
Anonymous No.21707804 [Report] >>21707809
>>21707802
Already refuted. See >>21707161
Anonymous No.21707809 [Report]
>>21707804
lmao
Anonymous No.21707828 [Report] >>21707835 >>21708991
while contemplating such levels of retardation one does wonder, is it a jewish psyops? because surely nobody is this retarded, right... right?
Anonymous No.21707835 [Report]
>>21707828
You got more than anecdotal evidence from random twitter posts? The studies on high-fat have already been done decades ago.
Anonymous No.21707840 [Report]
>>21698768 (OP)
sure
Anonymous No.21707892 [Report]
>>21698915
What's not a reddit response? I dare you to effectively define 'reddit' in a way that your post makes any fucking sense whatsoever.
Lazy incel cunt.
Anonymous No.21707898 [Report] >>21707903
>>21698935
Holy fuck. It's people like you who actually ask A.I. for medical advice and would sooner roll the dice and take your chances with home remedies and shit rather than trust your doctor.
You're an idiot if you think the doctors made you worse. Or you're in a 3rd world country. Get a second opinion maybe. But rejecting medical advice is absolutely idiotic.
Lots of you guys on this site though. We all know what you think vaccines are all about. lol

Ask a nutritionist about diet before an M.D. anyway.
Anonymous No.21707903 [Report]
>>21707898
Distrust =/= not believe
Anonymous No.21707954 [Report]
>>21707581
>Ignoring parasites
Anonymous No.21707973 [Report] >>21707987
Why do schizos keep falling for alternative diets?
Anonymous No.21707987 [Report]
>>21707973
it's like they have exactly 0% personality, very amusing
Anonymous No.21708234 [Report] >>21708559
>>21707776
>Except for maybe arctic animals that need blubber for warmth
You'd think so, but beavers, caribou, even moose are leaner than one would expect.
>I try to get it more from whole sources like nuts, seeds, avocado, olives, etc. rather than processed seed oils.
I don't know why hardly anyone ITT has talked about fat from actual whole plants. Avocado in particular is one of the only foods virtually everyone can agree is good for you.
Macadamia nuts, despite being high-calorie fat bombs, somehow correlate in the diet with weight LOSS- I suspect nuts have a magic to them we're still figuring out.
Anonymous No.21708283 [Report]
>>21707138
nuh uh
Anonymous No.21708559 [Report]
>>21708234
>I don't know why hardly anyone ITT has talked about fat from actual whole plants.
Who has attacked whole plants in this thread?

>I suspect nuts have a magic to them we're still figuring out.
It's that fat keeps you satiated for longer than carbs. Same reason animal fat helps with weight loss.Once the body is burning fat as fuel it has an easier time accessing the bodies own energy storage. There's a reason we get fat and not sweet.
Anonymous No.21708607 [Report] >>21708746
OK basically from what I can tell reading a shitload of science is that science doesn't actually know what causes atherosclerosis.
It doesn't appear to be saturated fat: >>21707161
But there isn't convincing evidence pointing towards anything else, either.
It may just be that genetic susceptibility is the most important factor.
I think eating a balanced diet is reasonable. No need to overstress over fat amounts or types. Just eat a balanced diet. That's what I try to do. I'm not obsessive about it and I could do a better job of it, but I'm in my 40's, had a calcium score test done (due to some chest pain that turned out to be indigestion) and it came back 0. I eat a shitload of butter and meat, but I also try to balance my carbs/fat/protein, make sure I get some veggies and fruit on a regular basis, eat whole grain carbs instead of refined carbs on a regular basis, and snack on nuts on a regular basis. I don't do any of this religiously or on a set schedule or anything. Pretty loose about it.
I also regularly take brisk walks - this probably helps. Again, not religiously or anything.
Anonymous No.21708609 [Report]
>>21707683
It's mostly due to them being poor and geographically separated from quality healthcare.
Anonymous No.21708746 [Report] >>21708936
>>21708607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdMpkUyF2BU
This guy puts the theory forward that atherosclerosis is caused by damage to the lining of our blood vessels. The damage can supposedly be caused by bacterial or fungal infections entering the bloodstream and pollutants such as chemicals.
Anonymous No.21708936 [Report] >>21709106
>>21708746
That could be one cause, but it's also probably more common that people have damage occurring from high blood sugar. Just eating carbs raises your blood sugar but not dangerously so. It's when you have insulin resistance from overeating that your blood sugar starts going much higher and not going down normally. There are so many reasons someone can be overeating too which complicates things. Like if you poorly digest starch you might overeat fat and sugar to compensate, or people with iron deficiency are known to crave carbs more sometimes even if they get enough calories.
Anonymous No.21708991 [Report]
>>21707828
Anthony cumia is the biggest boomer republitard “eat red meat and butter to own the libs” type and he’s had numerous heart attacks including needing a bypass surgery and says eating steak literally everyday because he can afford to is what did him in, echoing his doctor
Anonymous No.21709106 [Report]
>>21708936
Yeah, I think he also mentioned carb heavy diets. He spoke at a low carb conference, after all.
Anonymous No.21709366 [Report] >>21709440
>>21698923
NIH determined statin use only lengthens life span by 1.4 years, which really isn’t a real number, they can’t be that accurate anyway. The question is whether lowering the cholesterol was good or worthless and the statin itself was shortening life. I stopped taking mine but I think I will start again. So hard to know shit.
Anonymous No.21709440 [Report]
>>21709366
>NIH determined statin use only lengthens life span by 1.4 years
sounds like a made up number. RCTs show its about 3-4 days for 2-6 years of treatment. trials done after the changing of clinical trial regulations in 2004/2005? show no mortality benefit. no independent group has ever analyzed the raw data for the core statin trials. even cochrane tried and was rejected. the data is held by an industry funded group at Oxford if memory serves and are most commonly authoring pro statin papers despite never letting any other group analyze the raw data