Thread 3937839

Bout fucking time

>>3937839 (OP)
Thank you. It's just not /cm/ without the Hetathread

Bit of a shame Hetalia doesn't take contemporary IR developments into account as much since the dynamics this year could give could be really fun. It's a mixed blessing as Himaruya's just not good with that kind of stuff, but still, it'd be cool to see.
Like, Arthur's become a homeless person because he's completely succumbed to his schizophrenic delusions that he's still a superpower.
Ivan's just constantly vomiting blood, and Belarus just ... lives inside his coat now?
Alfred's gone full bipolar manic episode. And he has measles now, I guess?
He's just confusing and terrifying everyone for no discernible reason, especially Denmark and Mexico and his little brother Matthew. Alfred just walks in the room and starts shitting on him about the drug problem he apparently has. Matthew's like, what the fuck are you talking about, and he's like, look what you did to New Jersey, I'm taking you in, you're gonna be a state now, and he's just fearing for his life. It'd be so cute.
France is weeping in the hallway with his little silk handkerchief, he's crying about not being able to give orders around to Mali and Niger, and about how no one likes him anymore (but when has that ever been different?).
Ukraine could have like that 2010s futuristic undercut going on. She's with the other countries and Ivan walks in, and it's just 10 minutes of hateful silence, and no one's having fun.
China just comes in the room, haggard as fuck, but is still surprised at the shitshow he's seeing, like in that Community meme where Troy comes in with the pizza, but the room is on fire

Generally, the entire cast would be looking and feeling like shit and everyone is antsy and hates everyone else. Sounds like a great time to me

Source on this?
There's a lot of fanart on Pinterest you just can't find the source for

Anyone with access to Lofter who can tell me the name of the artist in here:
https://xxwdf.lofter.com/post/1d2270b8_1ccc71776

They drew picrel and I'd be into finding if they have other social media

>>3960937
Nevermind, old person moment, it's xxwdf, just figured out that's not some weird URL thing

>>3953598
cute

am i the only male hetalia fan

Seriously Someone please don't tell me i am the only Male hetalia fan

>>3969934
i haven't watched or read hetalia, i just think the guys are hot especially america

I just sometimes feel i am the only Male hetalia fan so that's why i am asking

>>3969934
I’m sorry to be the one to tell you this but yes you are legitimately the only male Hetalia fan alive at the moment. I have a Hetalia fan account and I have never met one single male.

>>3970248
i do have both males and right wingers in this fandom

>>3970252
Yeah I’m pretty new to the fandom so I was kind of jokingly exaggerating, but there are just a lot more girls compared to guys. There’s no doubt there are a handful of male fans but I think there were much more in the early days of the fandom. And I’ve also seen some right leaning fans but non of them were male and they’re just not that common, at least not on the platforms I use. Left leaning fans are the majority. Even so i haven’t seen much political discourse among them only shipping discourse lol.
Apologies for the shitty blogpost.

>>3970259
most of the discourse is the whole spain pedo thing

>>3969927
no shame in that

>>3970439
no shame in what

>>3970259
Also it's really kinda weird when you find out about right wing hetalians since you wouldn't expect any kind of fujo to be right leaning

zsocca55
>>3970448
The minority right-wing Hetalist faction may not actually intersect with the majority fujo faction all that much.
The artist that made this de-femboyed Poland redesign that I like, she's a Hungarian nationalist whose closest brush with Big Homosexual was answering a Tumblr ask where she referred to being gay as a "lifestyle." Doesn't even draw most of the other Hetaloids besides the Visegrad states. Otherwise, she's very much average straight girl Tumblr millennial. Highly uncommon type shit, but she is Hungarian after all.
Double the strange: she's also into Transformers, another huge fujo magnet fandom, and yet, no gaiety there

>>3970468
but i swear i did met some fujos who are right wing tho and it is strangest thing

>>3970468
Really? That is strange but her Poland design looks cool. Despite being right wingers all the ones I’ve seen were all still big into yaoi.
>>3970469
Yeah they exist, I’ve even seen an alt right one.

ce13brity
>>3970469
>>3970478
Do tell, that's a strange experience.
The furthest right I've met them were centrist libs complaining about woke.
Though I guess the most famous gross fujo pervert, I'd class as basically right-wing. But most people aren't into comparative literature, so they probably haven't heard of Camille Paglia

zsocca55
>>3970478
The Poland in my personal canon looks like hers, yeah. Though I wonder if it'd piss her off if I headcanonned Russia forcefemming him while under occupation. Much to think about.

I feel like most non-Western Hetalists would be classed as right-wing by the online left types (different Overton window) because they tend to be tolerant of some pretty rancid politics so long as they get their slop yaoi dynamics. So much of shipping colonizers with their colonizeds. Like, dating, not even rape. Inherently disrespectful, and they seemed surprised!

>>3970480
>>3970482
i did met this girl on deviantart who supports trump but she was obiously a fujo from seeing he profile https://www.deviantart.com/ufd/art/Hetalia-Trump-Supporter-Stamp-662745094

>>3970480
They just posted some nazi edits of Hetalia. I’m actually unsure if it was just satirical but they were definitely on some level of right leaning. Yeah I’m one of those people who’s never heard of that stuff but I looked into it just now and it actually sounds interesting.
>>3970482
Well thank you now I’m thinking about Poland being forcefemmed
>>3970483
Kek

あやめ
PIXIV ID 3724309
>>3970485
I appreciate that, anon, I never get enough credit for my contributions to the world of horny
>nazi edits
From Asians or edgelords?
I've often seen Asians just not take that stuff very seriously and use it just for the pure evil aesthetique of it. I kinda get it since, from a very distant view, the whole Nazi thing has this strange tragic grandeur since it cuts out the crass unrelenting idiocy of the real thing.
I swear there's a Hitler brand ice cream cone somewhere in Uttar Pradesh.
The edgelords, younger me would've just brushed off as merely degenerate South Park libs, but 2025 me clocks them as rightists by default
>>3970483
absolute kek

>>3970489
there was also this group of right wingers hetalians but it is very old.

https://hetalia.livejournal.com/6633679.html

y_oji
PIXIV ID 33136
poipoinosiro
>>3970505
Specifically right-wing Hetalia? Incredible stuff.
>therightwingnut
>Mood: accomplished
>Music: something by the black eyed peas
Stunning. I'm stunned. Thank you, anon.

I've found that the intended tone of Hetalia seems inherently inimical to nationalism since, if you wanna do it effectively, no one country can be treated as a Mary Sue the way nationalist rhetoric tends to require. Other kinds of right-wingery might fit though

>>3969934
I was a fan about twelve years ago, but found out about it through my gf at the time.

>>3970548
Are you bi anon

sauce unknown sauce sauce please
>>3970567
Why isn't Australia significantly prettier than America and England

>>3970570
have you looked at his pecs

>>3970572
It's great and all, but Australians are stereotyped as being the prettier Anglos. Though, given "femboy Poland" and "smiling Russia," I don't think I should put that much stock in Hetalia being randomly inaccurate

>>3970573
I still like him but my husbando Is definetly spain even hotter than england

Well i think the few right wingers i met were More calmer than the leftist side

>>3970567
Gay in theory, straight in practice.

>>3970652
Nice to know anon

Someone here Made a new hetalia thread without this one even being over

sauce unknown
>>3970644
You mean among Hetalia fans?
I've found that 2020s Hetalists trend chill overall.
I feel like rabid Charlottesville rightoids who can't keep the politics in their pants wouldn't be attracted to Hetalia in the first place because it's so gay and girl-coded in the writing (Himaruya is a real miracle). I think it'd actually be weird if they weren't chill.
I think Hetalia being so problematic also kinda keeps away some of the more intolerantly puritan hordes of leftie Twitter antis, which is nice, though some "proshippers DNI" folks do slip through. I should know, I follow some.
Being into Hetalia inherently means having some degree of shitlib "art for art's sake" thinking in your noggin, which is also nice, those types tend to make the best fanart for every fandom, and the oodles of great art is a good goddamn reason to stay in this fandom

>>3970799
there were right wingers on the hetalia fandom thought just look at these threads>>3970483

>>3970799
I did met actual right wingers that liked hetalia, they were all women though

>>3970807
>>3970832
Yeah, I didn't say that they didn't exist, I just said I'm not surprised that they're chill

Who Is the hottest hetalia character it's spain for me

what do 4chan hetalians think about the theory of himaruya being a nationalist. i think it is retarded since what kind of nationalist would portray his country as twink and sexualize him

>>3971061
Yeah what kind of nationalist would portray His country like this

>>3970570
>>3970573
Aussie men are often portrayed as buff and ruggedly handsome so I'd say Heta Australia is pretty accurate in terms of physical stereotypes.

>>3971061
I think the average nip is in some ways nationalistic in some ways not. Those kinds of things are hardly comparable to what Americans consider "nationalist", to me it seems like it's a curse word there.

souda_111
>>3971187
Buff and ruggedly handsome is most of the non-twink part of the cast though,
>>3971061
I feel like the people who came up with that theory don't quite get that you don't have to explicitly identify as nationalist to do what literally everyone does and imbibe the normative values of your particular society, and nationalism is a big presence in modern Japan. Like, regardless of whether or not Himaruya is a nationalist, he definitely took on sentiments common in Japan, like the anti-Korean narrative and (honestly kinda accurate) assumption that everyone either loves or admires Japan
>>3971413
I mean, nationalism is a specific thing with a certain history and is really not the same thing as the more general patriotism.
Nationalism is a specific ideology born around the 18th and 19th centuries that centers the society around a particular conception of the nation as a culturally distinct community, unified by a shared history and destiny.
Thing is, that "shared history" tends to be conceived along the lines of language and ethnicity to the exclusion of others, so you should be able to easily see where that starts to get dicey for a lot of people. If you want some illustrations, think back to your school lessons about the history and ideology surrounding the mass deportations conducted during the break-up of the Ottoman Empire, or the expulsion of Indians from Uganda.
Or that obscure historical period when the modern Japanese state went under a different flag

those "right wing" hetalians are now mostly on tiktok and underage latinas. the nazi edits are quite humorous as they try too hard,dont give it too much mind all hetalians are annoying now

>>3969934
another dude and I bonded over our shared love of hetalia yaoi so there's at least two more

>>3971606
wow how those it feels being a male in this fandom, also are you gay

Daily reminder that hetalia made fun of commies http://www.hetarchive.net/blog/2019/02/28/to-your-hearts-content-russia/

>>3972149
Commie sexo

>>3972156
Only good commies Is a dead commie

Also how do you guys identify politically i mostly lean right

>>3972173
Love more, hate less

>>3972190
Better dead than red

>>3972194
Sad!

>>3971647
People treat me like a sasquatch sighting whenever I reveal my fudanshi power level, its pretty funny. Also pretty damn gay, disappointing there aren't more male heta cosplayers

>>3972198
it is kinda awesome being a fudanshi, we are gay, and like our yaoi in peace

>>3972198
also its so refreshing to find an actual one since every supposed fudanshi i found was a troon

>>3972204
too real, it was only until traveling fujo/fudan circles did I realize how prevalent troons were in male idol/fudan stuff. I just wanna see hot men instead of women dammit

>>3972206
especially ftms

>>3972206
also as a fudanshi who do you personally think is the hottest character in hetalia

>>3953855
nearlycassidy
Artist has trouble with mouths.
>>3972149
In an indirect way at most
>>3972207
That's because mtf fudanshi is an oxymoron

>>3972203
Controversial and half-baked opinion, but I don't believe in Westoid fudanshi
>>3972204
I've found that non-troon fudanshi make pretty flat coomerish art, which is the issue I have with very mainstream gay erotica: pure beefcake is unappealing post-nut. Fujo content has a higher percentage of mental illness, so I find it more interesting and fulfilling.
Himaruya is one big exception, and part of why the legend of Hetalia is so fascinating
>>3972183
Liberation theology

>>3972255
In my headcanon, there's two Turkeys.

My pick for hottest Hetaloid is the other one

>>3972259
i am a western fudanshi and not a ftm

>>3972259
I'm also not a ftm

i also find the amount of new normies that get into hetalia are anti shotacon and anti fujoshi when himaruy was both and putted those things in his manga and other works he made

yamaka_2
なんとか
wa_cca
pixiv id 3553588
>>3972320
Never heard of Hetalian anti-fujoshi, that feels inherently contradictory. As I mentioned in >>3970468, there's at least one that took pains to avoid all mention of gay in their Hetacontent, but never heard of the young "fujos are so problematic" types being into Hetalia.
Anti-fujo Hetalians feels like the girl from the "video games appeal to the male fantasy" meme playing God of War 3, like, lady, what are you doing here.

miaman
scribblemynizzle
scribblewizzle
>>3972328
>>3972320
Though I can vouch for the massive influx of anti-shota "proship DNI" zoomer types, but that might be more reflective of the wider, more general change among young people in fandom now.
However, the steep decline of public morality in the 2nd Trump era might change that with Gen Alpha, but we'll see how strongly the Gen Y/Z anti-age gap consensus will hold.

>>3972328
>>3972329
Yeah but it's just funny as seeing how himaruya Drew this

>>3972330
Good Lord, it really was a different time.
I mean tbf, if anyone should be getting molested, it's England.

>>3972329
this art makes me think of venice bitch

wainxheta
concon2828
Pixiv ID 5471187
>>3971647
>are you gay
Question you should be asking is "are you not gay," it's just a safe bet.
If we're talking rare, forget gay guys in the fandom, someone find me some straight dudes into Hetalia.

>>3972334
My real question Is are you a ftm oe just am actual male

>>3972337
Dick B. Natural

>>3972338
Nice i just Hate troons and every time that i want to search for a fellow fudanshi they turn out to be a ftm troon

As a Man i really enjoy himaruya's artstyle he knows how to Make bishounens without them looking too yaoi dispoportinate, and just looking at the design of the nordics even if they look the same their clothes are so unique, hima knows how to draw real life war clothes, Make them appealinh

>>3972255
That other anon got it real close for me, Turkey is just so -big- you know, close second is America

>>3972432
Oh shit Prussia too, he's really molestable

>>3972432
Prussia is so fucking hot

>>3972446
>>3972434
do you guys want to rape prussia

do you guys know that according the hetalia wiki himaruya is a fan of higurashi and umineko, how do you guys feel about that

>>3972516
Proof here

>>3972330
>>3972331
That's Sealand on the right

>linking this thread on the cesspool that is the hetalia reddit
Delete your post now you dumb fucking newfag

>>3972624
not the one who did it but what is exactly wrong with hetalia subreddit

>>3972625
it's filled with underaged zoomers that were brainwashed by the leftist/troon propaganda, believe everything they see on tiktok and were not even born when the 1st season of Hetalia aired. You DON'T want this kind of tourists here.

>>3972627
are you right wing

>>3972628
No, centre-right. I'm not a nazi just because I don't want cringy teenager tourists around here by the way.

>>3972629
idk if you are guy or a fujo but you are kinda based

>>3972629
the only way you could have known that is if you scroll the hetalia sub

>>3972624
Will probably leave at the sight of shota threads but yeah linking that is retarded

>>3972631
yeah i'm familiar with almost every hetalia online community on the english side due to how small the fandom is nowadays, that doesn't mean i want them overlap.

>>3972634
i guess thats it hey how do i adress you are you a man or a woman

Male hetalians which characters Is the most rapeable

>>3972497
No, I want him to rape me.

>>3972683
I don't know if you are a Man or a woman but as a Man i relate

I got my male friend to watch hetalia but he doesn't get the yaoi appeal so maybe I need to find another straight male to hold captive for this..

>>3972635
this is an anonymous image board, not twitter. try to lurk a bit more before posting again, newfag-chan.

>>3972516
Unsurprised

>>3972629
Center-right is still right-wing tho, and not just in the sense that adding "center" doesn't make you not right or left. Like, your camp is closer to right-hardliners than the center-left is to left-hardliners.
Though this might be highly American, as over there, non-right camps trend big tent, while the right trends towards homogeneity where there should be none. An illustration: libertarians are constantly in agreement with the Bush religious crowd on policy and vice-versa in ways that betray their supposed values; meanwhile, the DNC had gone apopleptic in its smear campaign against Mamdani while the DSA and various online commies tried to cancel Warren for being too capitalist.
So yeah, you're a righty.

>>3972627
I wouldn't mind. When you defang them by rendering them an actual online minority in a space, they're no more or less annoying or vapid than the natives here.
And when they are that annoying, they just get huffy and leave after finding themselves entirely without allies

>>3972677
Please be inclusive of girl abusers, especially the Koreans. They are so creative

>>3972692
I salute you. 72 twinks await you in Jannah.

>>3972432
Oh you misunderstand me, I don't mean that Turkey.

In my headcanon, there's 2 Turkeys, and I like the other one better.

There's 2 of them. Not in a 2 Italies kinda regional way, but also not in the way of that 2P AU thing.
There's just 1 Turkey, but there's 2 of them.

>>3972575
I can't believe France would do this. I am shocked. Appalled. I am calling the UN

>>3972419
>bishounens without them looking too yaoi dispoportinate
You get it, anon. There's something so wonderful about the classic original Hetalia style that's entirely missing in most of the art from Himaruya's fellow fudanshi and most yaoi art in general.
It's soft and simple, but expressive; detailed without feeling cluttered. Horny, but never grotesque or at all Liefeldian. I don't do much BL stuff, but in terms of effect, it most reminds me of stuff like Syundei or Kaneoya Sachiko

>>3972812
why are you unsuprised that himaruya is a fan of higurashi and umineko

>>3972823
i.m gonna assume you are a guy but yeah most guys dont like the usual bl style

>>3972677
America, he was gangbanged by the entire G8 after all

>>3972677
Prussia

>>3972913
i really enjoy yaoi but dont enjoy femdom especially austria x hungary am i weird. so thank you for being male and having those fantasies

>>3972917
Well who wouldn't want to be in that situation?

>>3972918
its just that i thonk femdom is an overrated fetish

>>3972926
yes also i really like yaoi but hate femdom is there are a reason

>>3972926
it is overrated af I really don't get the appeal

>>3973305
i really find yaoi hotter than femdom, for me there is nothing hotter than a man domming a man not a woman doing it

>>3973307
yeah exactlyy yaoi for the win!!

>>3973309
That's why o find the whole hungary pegging Austria headcanons modern heta fans have to be cringe

>>3973110
with all respect you probably dont like women,anon.
although thats obvious im not sure why you even question it

>>3973316
It's just that there are gay guys that find it hoy because the guy Is being dommed but it's still a girl doing it which i hate

>>3973316
And also that i really find the whole hungary pegs Austria headcanons to be gross

>>3973317
there are? typically only hear of gay men strictly finding fictional men attractive but i guess there is a whole other world out there

>>3973314
I'm a more modern fan since I've been lurking in the fandom since 2019, but I have to agree it's cringe and gross and a waste when better headcanons can be push out there

>>3973318
it is rather gross,hungary should find some respect for herself and austria deserves to be drilled into by another man

>>3973321
Exactly

>>3973320
>>3973321
For me it just reminds me of all of those people who want force women to be dommy Mommy femdom peggers when not every women wants to be like that and also cringe feminists with those headcanons

>>3973325
i personally find it attractive but i think it comes from trying to add substance to straight ships in hetalia which is already pretty hard. austro-hungary shouldn't be that hard but these shippers are young and dont know exactly that there are more dynamics than femdom and bitchmale,it is gross to me but oh well do whatever you want thats the freedom of fandom

>>3973325
I also think it'd maybe be a bit out of character too for Hungary to peg him? It does feel forced

>>3973327
I just feel like not every women has to be a dommy mommies especially since i consider those kinda safe horny

>>3973329
>safe horny
lol alright
of course not every woman has to fit that mold but young hetalians these days are inner fujos afraid to make the het ship heteronormative. anyways we are on cm we should probably do hungary the grace and leave her out of these gay discussions and post more cute boys before the real fags get upset

>>3973331
Yes but I'm just hoping for the day modern hetalians realize that there Is nothing wrong with writing a straight ship as heteronormative but then again the modern fandom Hates shotacon

opinion on incest ships in hetalia? I have a soft spot for caname but feel ashamed of it

>>3973337
incest in shipping is whatever,what matters is the ship itself. big fan of caname here,dont let them make you feel ashamed of one of the only good incest ships

>>3973339
caname shippers unite?

>>3973337
Hetalia incest is good and you shouldn't be ashamed

>>3973345
hello brother

Thoughts on communism and by extensión the Kong of communism

>>3973447
Kung sorry

>>3973448
King sorry

>>3973317
I'm pretty sure that's very much a minority of gay guys. I mean ... I'm part of that minority, and I can tell you that there are really not very many other gay guys who like seeing guys with girls.

Still, it's a really weird thing for you to say.
Like a vegetarian who thinks meat tastes gross saying steak is overrated.
Like, duh, why would you even need to clarify? I already assume that you wouldn't enjoy meat, what could your opinion on the topic possibly be worth

>>3973447
>communism
Dont like
>Ivan
Perfect beautiful and made for sex

>>3973476
are you a gay who likes femdom

>>3973477
i think its weird to like the main guy who is a communist yet hate it, but i myself dont like it

potatoserver404
to@st
littleb623
Pixiv id 9196331

>>3973449
Good show, anon.

>>3973447
Modern Russia is as far from communism as you can get, though, and the USSR always had a kinda questionable relationship with it once Stalin was pulling the reins.
Like, he had a weirdly sometimes nationalist policy which was always at odds with ML's internationalist goals. The hurdle of nationalism was something communist states were never able to get around. The USSR never got over it, and despite its 56 nations rhetoric, the CCP has already been swallowed by a chauvinist assimilating Han nationalism (which imo would be accelerated if the country were ever to turn to democracy).

Regarding Braginsky himself, he's a weird Russian. He's always smiling, for one, and way too friendly in a Japanese way, it's weird.
Himaruya got his imperialist Russian Mir worldview right, at least. He's big and handsome, at least. My headcanon is that he's skin and bones under that coat.

>>3973483
Chin up, the USSR was very imperfect communism, and modern Russia is less communist than modern Vietnam.
And what are you complaining about communism for? It hasn't been relevant since 1992.

>>3973483
Liking a character without necessarily having to agree with them is the norm i believe. It would be more worrying if you think you have to ideologically align with any character you enjoy

>>3973489
I mean, it used to be the norm, at least. Now, it's 50/50.

>>3973325
>>3973327
I mean, it's Hetalia, this fandom attracts people who want to see dudes get objectified sexual style. Femdom is kinda the convenient logical progression of these incentives for girls who aren't into traditional romance stuff and just wanna see boys be sexy but also wanna acknowledge that girls exist.
It's always funny seeing yaoi-brained artists be like, oh yeah, this girl exists, let me make you super awesome and powerful to make up some feminism points for forgetting that you exist most of the time

>>3973482
Occasionally.

The usual femdom thing of strong, physically-intimidating women dominating guys, that's more ... aspirational for me, not really sexual. Very much a "get it, girl" kinda thing that's at most satisfying for smug whiny guys. Like, say, England.
What really appeals to me is smaller delicate girls psychologically destroying beautiful ikemen. I think Azula taunting Sokka about Suki in that Day of the Black Sun episode did things to my child brain.
And if we're talking fanon, it really depends on the characters. The dick usually goes soft for OOC, so if it's a soft girl character doing the dominating, then you really need to make it make sense

>>3973492
but i do prefer yaoi to femdom because if i wanted to see girls dominating men i would not watach yaoi i dont get how a gay guy can watch femdom

>>3972812
News flash: I'm not american and I don't care with which group my set of ideologies is usually associated with, I have my own set of values that I identify with. Also, righty ≠ nazi.
>I wouldn't mind. When you defang them by rendering them an actual online minority in a space, they're no more or less annoying or vapid than the natives here.
Not the type of users who frequent the hetalia reddit.

cdcdcd0818

>>3973521
Interesting hypercorrect double prepositions, anon.
And I'm not saying that rightists are all Nazis, I'm just saying that in practice, you're more often allies and affiliates of fascists than proglibs are to demsocs and commies. Just an observation about why you would be classed as right in a way that a proglib wouldn't be classed as left. If you feel that unfair, just imagine how the smuggest of Twitter's DSA hardliners felt every time Obama was called a socialist

>>3973494
jesus do hetalians simply hate feminism

>>3973528
No, they hate women.
Kidding. It's channers who hate women, not Hetalians in general.

Hetalians are mostly women, always has been, always will be.
Us dudes are bigly a minority.

>>3973533
do you hate women anon

>>3973534
No. I'm a tourist. I've been here nearly half my life, but am a perpetual tourist.

>>3973540
why do you consider yourself a tourist anon kun

>>3973546
Can't make home in an IDP camp

>>3973560
atleast you are not a faggot like me

>>3973563
We're all /cm/ posters, anon, do not deny me the honor

>>3973566
well jeez anon kun from 1 to 10 how big of a faggot would you describe yourself

>>3973567
I don't really know, anon, feel like it depends on the context. The word has a lotta meanings here

>>3973568
faggot as in attraction to men from 1 to 10 how would you describe yourself

>>3973346
>>3973347
I'm happy I'm not the only one who thinks this way then.. caname was my OTP but I wasn't able to tell anyone about it and then playing Brotherly Complex made me think about incest ships in Hetalia generally

>>3973570
... 10? 8?

>>3973570
Are we talking something like ... the Kinsey scale? I guess ... 10 or 8?

30000g_ram
>>3973337
Given the nature of being countries who are humans, the tendency is that whether or not any ship in Hetalia is incest kinda depends on a combo of what canon tells you and the personal headcanon you fill in with your imagination. I say the only consistently incesty ships are the ones involving Canada, America, France, and England

>>3973337
Ashamed why? Stupid dynamics or incest being gross?

>>3973626
so you are much of a faggot. hey are you the same that said turkey was the hottest

>>3973628
Yeah but I can't stop seeing Canada and USA as brothers
>>3973629
Incest generally being gross but it hits different in Hetalia

>>3973628
I might be misremembering but America and England never felt like actual brothers to me. Like yeah he calls him that, but its like an adoption thing, i dont really view the “one character raises another for a while” as actually being related and they dont treat eachother like brothers as adults which i feel matters more in hetalias situation. Caname, itacest, whatever prussia and germany are called are the only actual incest ships imo

>>3973632
When I said I don't hate women, I didn't mean I usually wanted to fuck them?
It's a strange thing, anon, but usually, the tendency is that people who hate women are also the ones who want to fuck them.

And there's 2 people here who said Turkey was hottest. One said they liked the classic canon Turkey, the other (me) said they preferred the other Turkey in their headcanon. I'm the headcanon Turkey.

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>>3973636
I'd like to agree, but they're so often portrayed as having a parental relationship that it's hard for me to see them as not having kinda incesty, at least groomery vibes. Though you're right, it doesn't at all carry into adulthood, which is interesting and really reduces the incest vibes.
Caname is solidly incest
And I think Prussia and Germany are like, imagine a ship between America and Delaware, i.e., the Biden presidency lol.

violentcreep
deadlittlebears
deadlittledogs

>>3973347
>>3973345
5000000hell

>>3973339
Not true, the fact of something being incest has a big influence on the vibe and dynamics of the ship, often for the worse (Pinecest would be extremely shippable but them being siblings is not working for me in that I refuse to see Mabel liking her brother (not the reverse, oddly enough)).

But when it's for the better? Oh, baby.
Caname is an awesome ship where the sibling-esque relationship actually works in the ship's favor. It gives it a weird Flowers in the Attic yandere obsessive flavor between soft and sensitive attention-starved Matthew and affectionate oblivious golden boy favorite-child sociopathic demigod Freddie, I think I really love it

>>3973637
I mean, I'm the one into the headcanon 2nd Turkey.

>>3973346
I like S.Italy/N.Italy but because Romano is a tsundere most of the art is with him on the bottom.

>>3973647
Why do women enjoy incest

>>3973634
I also find incest ships gross but Hetalia is the exception, I think because they're countries who operate in such different ways from humans.
But even then my only incest ship is Ukraine/Belarus so I can't post it here, for M/M I'm pretty much a basic bitch (GerIta, Spamano, Giripan, USUK, LietPol, and SuFin)

>>3973648
because its yaoi and women love shipping men especially when theres interesting dynamics

>>3973641
some things just arent for others i guess,yes it does add to the dynamic but i guess you are just not strong enough for incest everywhere and thats alright.

>>3973650
Inknow women like yaoi but incest Is kinda gross

>>3973652
everyone here is into shota,its fictional anon i think that should be obvious. incest in real life is kinda bad,if it grosses you out thats reasonable but you aren't really forced to see it now are you

>>3973649
Oh yeah, Nyotalia exists
>>3973653
>everyone here is into shota
I'm not, I only like USUK and Spamano when they're both adults. Nothing against those who do like it though, as long as it's 2D

>>3973653
>>3973654
I'm Gonna assume that besides one person here being a Man everyone here Is a woman so i think women are really scary for the incest stuff

>>3973654
well you certainly are one of a kind,at least everyone agrees fiction is fiction

>>3973655
weak.

>>3973655
can the image be us? (I'm a female incest lover)

>>3973658
not the fearful anon but lets scissor

>>3973659
in cm? lets do it

>>3973658
>>3973659
>>3973693
eww i want men to have sex and there is only one man here

>>3973715
Post some art then

>>3973717
I just want to meet a single Male hetalians that Is not a ftm, that's my only wish

>>3973718
I understand you anon, im a male and these days every other male hetalian i find are troons

>>3973728
Thanks for not being a troon

if there is any right winger here do you think himaruya is ourguy for the korea stuff

my sister got banned for a day from here (she's the girl who replied to the fearful anon) so I'm posting to rub it in her face though she keeps talking about hetalia should I watch it? (I'm a male and from what I can see there's a demand for males here)

what do you people want from a straight male like me

>>3973787
>>3973788
you are in cute male dude, no place for a straight man

>>3973790
i was brought here kinda against my will

>>3973788
To put you in a jar and kinda shake it.
Really, just watch or read some Hetalia and tell us what you think about the characters.

Bonus question: would you be more into it if everyone was genderbent.
For what that looks like, see: https://x.com/satie_0/status/1569705284234539010

>>3973777
I dunno, there's as much of a chance that Himaruya is actually a flaming rightoid as much as he's just incidentally disrespectful to the Korean people. He's Japanese, it's a thing.
As for the fact that Hetalia is founded on moefying Nazi Germany seems to stem from the Japanese not taking the Western front of the war all that seriously.

>>3973787
Welcome, the more the merrier anon

i hate how some of the more important english voice actors in hetalia were monica rial and jamie marchi

>>3973844
May I ask why? Do you just hate their voice? Or maybe they're overrated?

>>3973853
i just dislike them because they are feminists that putt theirn politics in anime, now i would not care if they just had their politics but shoving them in anime dubs that never had them in the first place like the dragon maid one is just weird

>>3973855
I've only watched the sub and some clips from the dub so I wouldn't know but that does sound annoying and obviously would ruin parts of the anime

>>3973859
are you the same anon that told me that they hated femdom

>>3973861
I didn't start the conversation but I did add onto it yeah I'm a femdom hater either way

Happy july 4th

>>3973988
its his bdayy (happy late Canada day too)

happy birthday ame
he was so cute as a kid

>>3974019
are you a shotacon

>>3974020
who isnt,this is cm after all

>>3973638
For me USUK is still a little weird when I see so many strips about England incapability of raising children properly.
I especially find a lot of Japanese USUK artist, that instead of simply shipping them as adults also do art with them in a parental situation(like chibi!America and chibi!Canada giving him flowers for Mother's day).
But I can understand why it's so popular, I simply like rivalry ships better and two of the best ships in this sense are Rusame and Fruk. Would probably like Rusprus if not for the fact that I don’t really like Prussia.

Also Cold War Rusame is really hot.
They're my favourite outfits

>>3974041
>>3974042
any thoughts on spain, modern fandom hates his guts for him being a pedo

>>3974043
I've always found his design pretty plain, so I only like him as a pirate.
I find Spamano less groomy since the Italy brothers situation is different from America and Canada.
It's technically pedo, but the Italy brothers both stayed as kids for a really long time. France and Spain were kids when they met the Italy brothers and the Italies were stuck in a children's body longer. Also half of the cast is gay for the Italies.
While France and England met America and Canada as basically adults, that's also the reason why America and Canada are seenbas brats by every other country, while the Italies are not.
I really like the Italies, but mainly because I'm Italian myself.

I'm Gonna say my hot take here but i actually prefer hetalia More as a fujo fandom than Boku no Hero academia, especially since the hetalia cast Is actually hot while horikoshi's Males are ugly especially bakugou and deku which are the most shipped characters. They look ugly while the hetalia cast looks hot.

Also Is there any hispánica in this thread

>>3974049
Hispánic i meant to say

>>3974043
do they really? from what i have seen it does not really look like hatred just joking about his shotacon personality. hes a funny character but his design is rather boring and doesn't appeal to me much. spamano is cute and spuk is pretty neat its just design thats pretty lackluster.

>>3974049
honestly not sure if its a hot take since it is pretty easy to see which style is more appealing. Bakudeku only had such a huge impact due to the dynamic between the two but hima himself was a fudan very much appealing to other fujodans. im also hispanic too

>>3974058
from which country are you

>>3974060
guess

>>3974065
spain, argentina or chile

>>3974067
very wrong anon

>>3974072
South America: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Uruguay, Venezuela.
Central America: Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Panama.
North America: Mexico.
Caribbean: Cuba, Dominican Republic, Haiti.

Hope this isnt weird to ask, but if youre not American and like Alfred, what is it about his character that you enjoy? Just curious because my I notice fellow 'Murricans like to interpret him in very specific ways.
>>3974042
Theyre the only rival-to-lover ship I actually like.

>>3974076
i hate how they have this seeking for validation mentality that alfred would be a trump hating leftie

>>3974077
Lmao are you serious? He would absolutely hate Trump.
>project 2025 trying to implement Unitary Executive Theory, which would make the US way more authoritarian. Alfred is all about freedom and democracy.
>trump trying to deport birth-right citizens
>being forced to work for a felon

I'll give you that America wouldnt be a liberal. He would have no political party or ideological preference. None of the Nation-tans do. The comic outright states they're victims of circumstance.

>>3974074
wow u got it anon

>>3974083
now that i mention every one can you tell me which one am i right

I'll embellish because I wanna get my thoughts out.

I see a lot of Americans project their insecurities onto him, and I dont think its too outta the realm of possibility. We are the primary superpower and yet we're practically a 3rd world country. We're behind on education, science and tech compared to Canada and the EU. Our medical field is tanking. We used to be at the top in everything. That has gotta be a huge ego blow to his superiority complex. I think even Hima knows given how toned-down America is in modern strips.

>>3974084
i headcanon you are either mexican or guatemalan

>>3974088
No i meant you

>>3974089
ah forgive my retardation,its mexico!
now yours?

>>3974092
Chile

>>3974092
Also are you the same Male i replied to or was that another one

I really feel guilty since I'm a guy who likes yaoi and it feels forbidden. Does any Male anon relate. How would people i care react about this

>>3974100
Especially hetalia yaoi

>>3974100
I mean they'd probably assume that you're gay at most if they don't read too much into it unless the people you care about hate gays but specifically hetalia yaoi, some of my friends think shipping countries is weird, they don't know that I'm into it and I hope they don't find out either. Hopefully a male anon replies to you though

>>3974049
Hot as ice take anon

>>3974079
>no political party or ideological preference. None of the Nation-tans do
That's dumb, of course they would. A bunch of them hate each other, and countries hating each other is always ideological, no matter how simple

>>3974077
It's not seeking validation, it's projecting their values onto what they view. Which is .. extremely normal, literally everyone does that.

And why would he be a leftie to hate Trump? There's been a small and steady stream of Republicans in exodus because of Trump, there's a bunch of conservative military guys who hate him because of the Hegseth appointment.

>>3974079
America would be liberal because America is liberal. America was born as a project of liberalism, a state whose purpose is to ensure individual liberty from the state.
Until Trump 2's authoritarian switch, there has been no thoroughly non-liberal presence in US politics. The closest is Sanders, and I think most grody hardliner leftists consider him a liberal

>>3974100
In 2025? Are you a 14-year old Muslim or something

>>3974079
Alfred would hate and love Trump in wildly varying measures because the mathematical average of American voter preferences would condense into an incoherent lunatic.
Really, something Hetalia's America is missing is being psychotically, dangerously bipolar in a way very few other countries are

>>3974117
I dont think Nation-tans reflect everything their people believe. There's no way I could see him supporting a figure that wants to completely unravel freedom.

>image limit reached
Damn.

>came across retarded political porn of my Nation.
I hate casuals.

>>3974119
What is "political porn" here? Hetalia tries to be apolitical more often than not. I mean, you can't really be apolitical, especially about something like this, but how is this porn in particular political enough to be colloquially "political"?
Also, getting triggered by softcore porn of your country is pretty normie stuff, anon, what are you on

>>3974118
There's an interesting discussion there as to exactly what kind of stuff Alfred is built of.

My theory is that the Nation-tans' minds, like everyone else's, are a combination of nature and nurture, with the aspects born of nature (everything physical, including the brain) baked in at the moment of their creation, never changing, and the aspects born of nurture changing constantly to reflect the mercurial nature of their nations' cultures

So, if Alfred really is all about that classical, foundational Americanism, yea, he'd hate Trump. But America is the freedom land built by slaves, a land of vast contradictions, and Trump is a very American animal.

So overall, I don't think he'd like Trump, but would he have hated him ven before all the gulag shit? I'm honestly not sure

>>3974117
>American voter preferences would condense into an incoherent lunatic.
American lawmakers are cold minded, analytical psychopaths. People's political opinions don't matter, what does is that most Americans believe USA is the protagonist of the world

Wow ill just make a new thread lol

>>3974137
But anon, wouldn't that be irrelevant as regards the nation-tans?
America would be based on America, right?
If you wanna constrict it to tangible representation in the state, I mean, go ahead, but it'd be a pretty out there headcanon

And American lawmakers are really not, actually, that's giving them too much credit. The idea of the lawmaker as untainted by ideology beyond self-interest is a kind of teenage overstated reductive deduction, seductively true but deeply incomplete