Thread 148998996

>I'm a suburban kid with two parents and a couple friends
>but I need fairies more than a homeless orphan or a war refugee because
>because
>I have a bad babysitter!

Why the fuck did he have fairies, but Chester didn’t? Chester lived in a trailer on cinderblocks with his single, mentally ill father and ate opossums.

There’s also kids from wore torn countries needs fairies more than this buck toothed little shit

>>148999027
The show literally stated that he was happy

If Timmy is miserable with Vicky as a babysitter, imagine how Tootie must feel. Shouldn’t she have had a fairy too?

If Timmy didn't get fairies, what happens?

>>148998996 (OP)
maybe FoP exists in a world where homelessness and war doesn't exist? why are you assuming its realistic outside of the main character's bubble?

>>148998996 (OP)
dont forget
>white

>>148998996 (OP)
I don't think it matters if he's a white suburban kid when he's legitimately getting tortured by her

>>148999120
BRING RACE INTO SHIT AWARD

>>148998996 (OP)
retards like you are why they had to flanderize the hell out Vicky

>>148999134
you already said the rest, i just filled in the blanks

>>148998996 (OP)
his parents were neglecting him

>>148999114
That's.
Not.
Possible.

>>148999127
Then just wish her away, replace her with a good babysitter, leave Timmy and find another kid, done.
>what if the babysitter is also evil?
Replace them with a better one then.

There's a lot of fairies in Fairy World
How do you know little Hakeem in Kabul doesn't have fairies

>>148999579
How do you know he does? We know fairy births are extremely rare. The amount of human children was keep increasing, unless they're Japanese.

If the kid with the fairies loses their memories of the fairies once they're gone, what's the point of fairies in the first place? Why not just inject every unhappy kid with magic prozac instead? The end result will be the same.

>>148999103
Didn't she used to have one but broke da Rules or something and lost them?

>>148999652
It doesn't matter what the birthrate among fairies is, they live forever
There's a lot of turn over among fairies as well judging by how they consider a kid keeping his fairy for a whole year a major accomplishment. I guarantee there's tons of kids that have fairies that we don't know about. Hell it's not impossible Tootie has fairies and we don't know about them

>>148998996 (OP)
FOP have been around so long, that what was the lower middle class back then is now treated like the well off upper class.
It's safe to say that it shows that things aren't going well.

>>148999818
>they live forever
Isn't Cosmo's dad gone?

>>148999906
Cosmo turned him into a fly, we've never seen him since.
Considering that the new series is a sequel that loves its deepcuts, they can always address this.

>>148998996 (OP)
>I live in a luxury apartment with two parents and a couple of friends
>but I need fairies more than a miserable, abused white boy because
>because
>MY 4.0 GPA ATHLETE BROTHER GOT ACCEPTED INTO COLLEGE?!

>>149000099
That's stupid too. Same with the Fairly Odder kids. What was their reason for getting fairies?

>>149000099
Cosmo and Wanda basically assigned themselves to her though

>>149000204
Maybe Cosmo and Wanda are awful fairies and it's a blessing in disguise a genuinely needy kid doesn't get them.

>>149000134
late FOP is lazy so same thing. kid who felt lonely after moving.

>>148998996 (OP)
He had bullies, his babysitter physically tortured him, his teacher stalked him, his parents neglected him. What more do you freaking want?!

>>149000099
>luxury apartment with two parents
In what way is her apartment considered luxury ? It’s an average apartment. And her parents are too busy with their work notice Hazel’s antics and emotional breakdowns. Like her running away or her mother and father completely disregarding her concerns with their new neighbors, and her turning her entire apartment complex into a luxury hotel.
>but I need fairies more than a miserable, abused white boy because
Are you talking about Dev ? he got a fairy, he lost Peri due to his own stupidity.
>MY 4.0 GPA ATHLETE BROTHER GOT ACCEPTED INTO COLLEGE?!
It’s not just her brother, she’s forced to leave her old school, life, and friends behind. Hazel has a tough time adjusting to change and the unknown due to her anxiety and (probably) autism.

>>149000099
She's black and that's worse than anything that ever happened to Timmy

>>148999027
Fairies are explicitly assigned to kids who are miserable. It doesn't matter how well off they are or their outside circumstances. Remy Buxaplenty had a shitton of money but he still had a fairy.
Chester doesn't have one because he's happy. He's enjoying his life, his friends, his father, and his shitty home. Poorfags aren't always miserable, just as miserable people aren't always poorfags.

>>149000634
>Poorfags aren't always miserable, just as miserable people aren't always poorfags.
Miserable richfags have more resources than miserable poorfags.

>>149000099
she's black

>>149000569
>>149001109
Because they needed the brownoid female reboot character to be better in every single way compared to the originally flawed white MC

I guarantee you they originally had the bus driver as the grown up timmy as a 'haha he's miserable' joke but realized that it would caused backlash from the OG fans who wished the channel chaser's version of him

>>148998996 (OP)
For me it's Timmy x Vicky

>>149001198
See >>149000549

>>149000634
>>149000889
A miserable richfag should be a lost cause. If they can't solve their problems with money, they definitely won't with magic.

>>149001481
Those paraplegic richfags won't need fairies I guess

>>149001526
>I wish I could walk
Boom. Ten seconds. Don't need fairies after that. Remy is a lost cause.

>>148998996 (OP)
>show starts off about a boy with absent parents and is always being babysat by hitler if he was a teenage girl
>show goes on to show that timmy's parents love him and shower him with gifts
>despite having vicky as a babysitter it's not all the time and he still spends most of his time with his parents
>has friends
>normal school life that only gets hectic because of FAIRY GODPARENTS
>turns out timmy is the biggest abuser of fairy godparents
>literally makes life worse for everyone
>and it's all played for laughs
Never seen a show paint the main character as a menace to society and reality and then treat it like it's all a joke.

>>149001542
Timmy Turner won

>>149000099
Damn, i never realized how ugly she looks
>diarrhea haircut
>missing tooth for some reason
>Undertale clothing

>>149000099
>>148998996 (OP)
also
>huge schnoz

>>148998996 (OP)
Kinda assumed that plenty of other kids do get fairies and then lose them by breaking Da Rules, and also that kids in war-torn countries don't get fairies because that would force them into a position where they are fucking with world affairs too directly, breaking da rules, etc. And also, Butch Hartman never intended for the cartoon to be any deeper than a puddle, but it was so successful that they were forced to stretch the premise to its limits and created an abomination of fiction.

>>149001609
People make fun of MrEnter for Growing Around but Fairly Oddparents is almost as broken of a concept

>>149001712
I feel like Growing Around still has the edge, because it was purpose-built to be an over-explained, overwrought pile of nonsense from it's inception. Enter made it like that on purpose. FOP became an abomination through the accident of running too long... But conceptually, both settings are horrifyingly broken.

>>149001609
>>149001712
>>149001764
I mean atleast with FOP you can easily ignore most of these questions by just focusing on Timmy but with Growing Around the setting would fall apart within the first few episodes

>>149001609
You're right. FOP only ever worked as Oh Yeah Cartoons shorts. Early Timmy comes off as more of a sympathetic kid you can pity instead of a stupid brat who causes his own problems.

>>149001803
>by just focusing on Timmy
They get worse when focusing on Timmy. Kid wishes everyone would stop aging so he could keep his fairies for 50 years. Or the Drake Bell movies where he turns into a manchild to keep his fairies. No matter the canon, he goes from a kid you can relate to to a nightmare child eventually.

>>149001561
You faggot. I’ll gouge your eyes out, because clearly they aren’t being put to good use. Hazel is absolutely adorable. And it’s not a missing tooth you retarted imbecile it’s a tooth gap.
>>149001109
>>149000569
>>149001198
kill yourself

>>149001864
Hazel looks like poop and probably smells like poop

>>148998996 (OP)
>I have a sexy babysitter!
Ftfy

>>149001847
That only happened in the post-Channel Chasers seasons so by then the show had already gone to shit and they'd ran out of ideas

>>148998996 (OP)
>>but I need fairies more than a homeless orphan or a war refugee
all the homeless orphans and war refugees DID have faeries, but they wished the world to be a better place so that shit doesn't happen any more. that freeed up the supply of faeries to the more fortunate but still miserable. timmy is is explicitly shown to be a irresponsible wisher, he should not be viewed as the standard for wishing morality.

>>149001609
>Butch Hartman never intended for the cartoon to be any deeper than a puddle,
EVERY
TIME

>>149002056
That makes no sense. Ignoring the racism, Hazel is obviously relatively clean. She’s been shown taking care of her hair, and even has an episode dedicated to loving and giving her hair the proper care it needs. You deserve to be lynched for saying something so stupid.

>>149002147
>Why are you mentioning Butch in a thread about a show Butch made?
Were you expecting him to just call him the creator?

>>149002208
She looks retarded, her nose is fat and her hair is hit
She reminds me of that annoying shit from Foster's

>>148998996 (OP)
In universe, his parents are neglectful.

>>149002290
You deserve a fate worse than death. A life filled with nothing but sorrow and constant misfortune. You are truly and honestly worthless. I hope your life takes such a heavy toll on you that you end up killing yourself. You are nothing but a blight on this world.

>>149002377
So what? Not like his parents are Cinderella's stepmother.

>>149002056
>Remembers that unicorn poop bath bombs are a thing, and that characters covered with glitter all day are just as "valid" as the knobs who get ear stretcher earrings while still in middle primary school. Words-shaved-in-hair, I guess I can give points for creativity.

>>148999790
yes, shes retarded. there was an episode where Chester had fairies and he went assbackwards trying to fix the worlds problems. So yea they shouldn't have fairies.

>>149002543
>the altruistic kids shouldn't have fairies
Why?

>>149002573
he thought the penguins were cold and melted the polar caps

>>148999103
Yeah its a major plothole plus missed opportunity
>>148999790
Nope
>>149002543
>she's retarded
Trixie and Chloe lost, fair and square anon. No need to hurl insults at Tootie, FOP isn't the DP or MLB fanbase.

>>149002614
She has a fetish for sissyfying boys?

>>149002614
she had timmys fairies for an ep (idr why), but yea at the end of the ep something happens and timmy gets em back

>>148998996 (OP)
I didnt love this show so im not an expert on the lore, but, I thought it was because fairies were assigned according to geographical location? There was an episode where it was established that if Timmy didn’t exist, Chester the trailer park kid would get Cosmo and Wanda. Because Timmy was just a tiny bit more miserable than Chester (which I guess is because Chester has a slightly more upbeat attitude and a slightly less neglectful father, despite being poor and having an objectively shittier life otherwise). I think there just weren’t any orphans or homeless kids in Timmy’s town, and that was Cosmo and Wanda’s assigned jurisdiction so they just got put with whichever child was the most miserable within that radius.

I think there was also an ep where Timmy made Tootie so sad that they got transferred to her for a few minutes too until she cheered up.

>>149002607
Maybe the bigger issue is children shouldn't be allowed to have reality warping fairies because they'll wish for dumb shit like that. Perhaps magic prozac is the better plan..

>>148998996 (OP)
>but I need fairies more than a homeless orphan or a war refugee because

who said there are homeless orphans or refugees in Timmy's world?

>>149002700
>as long as I look away from suffering, suffering doesn't exist

>>149002661
Tootie got loaned C&W for her birthday in an episode. She made pretty nice wishes, but she also didn't seem to understand why the fairies were kept secret, and Crocker and Timmy collectively try to get to/to not spill the beans.

I don't think that the episode is meant to say Tootie can't get fairies though. She's given access to them during the live action series. It really made no sense that they just abandoned this and made up Chloe for season 10..... but, I was telling folks on the FOP staff this years ago and they brushed me off. Now they're all unemployed or dead!

PERI I WISH FOR FAIRY SEX

>>149001542
FOP's a premise that can only last a season or two before becoming awful.

>>149001198
>>149001109
>>149000099
They clearly wanted a black MC, but couldn't/wouldn't portray a black MC as having shit or absent parents. I genuinely cannot think of any race other then white they could have shit or absent parents for without mass outrage. Maybe Asians?

>>149002130
>>149002668
>>149002700
There's a trailer park in Dimmsdale. Odds are inevitably not every poor kid in town was as upbeat as Chester was.

>>148999103
Vicky is only super mean to Tootie in the birthday episode, where she randomly becomes Eddy's Brother levels for the sake of the plot. Most of the time she's just breaking her toys or something. Francis the bully is actually more consistently evil to her throughout the show, but Timmy beat the shit out of him when he tried to hurt her.


Tootie isn't really an unhappy character most of the time, so long as Timmy is around. So in a way, like the end of that shitty Drake Bell movie, Timmy is Tootie's fairy.

>>149003137
Ironically one of the reasons Vicky is mean to Tootie is because she's tsundere for Timmy and hates that Tootie also likes him

>>148999113
Ummm...

This thread is proof that Adults who watch cartoons tend to be mentally ill.

>>149003283
Hello, it looks like you have wandered away from https://boards.4chan.org/a

>>148999103
>>149002614
Tootie's too much of a blabber mouth

>>148998996 (OP)
25 years ago the vast majority of English speaking children had a non-divorced mom and a dad and had their basic needs met.

Wow shit has really gone to hell quick.

>>149003332
>>/a/
Was that so hard?

>>149003352
Tootie also raised a good point though... why do fairies need to go away forever just because someone wanted to celebrate their efforts?

>>149001198
>channel chaser's version of him
>the best version of Timmy's future is one where he's forgotten all about his fairies, throws a robot Vicky at his kids, and the cycle continues

>>149003352
And one episode even revealed that the #1 reason kids lose their godparents is because the kid reveals it to someone else.

>>149001535
Don't wishes get undone after a kid loses fairies? He'll just lose the ability to walk once they're gone.

>>149003352
timmy is an unreliable narrator when it comes to tootie, he's almost borderline psychotic the way he treats her
>AHHHHH THIS CUTE NERD IS TRYING TO KISS ME AND WANTS TO BE MY LOYAL GIRLFRIEND, HOW TERRIBLE!
>NOOOOOOO STOP HELPING ME BEAT MY WORST ENEMIES
>by the way I'm gonna crash your birthday party or leave you locked in a closet until you piss yourself ;^)

timmy deserves to suffer and im mostly disappointed ANW didn't show every single prospective love interest of his happily married to someone else

>>149000134
I shit you not, Timmy shows up in the first episode to give them his fairies because he is going to college.

>>149003541
Like I said earlier >>148999741, then what's the point of fairies in the first place if that's the end result?

>>149003591
Why does he look more like a methhead than the Timmy who stayed in 5th grade well into his 20s?

>>149003595
Fairies just help kids get through a bad childhood until they're old enough to fix their lives themselves. However that means kids who had magical beings solve all their problems would have to be independent.

>>148998996 (OP)
I can't imagine being the person who would improve the lives of everyone if he'd never been born. Even a war refugee has someone who cares about them.

>>149003606
>methhead
Yo Mr Cosmo, I wish we were cooking

>>149003619
Doesn't that mean fairies hurt kids rather than help them in the long run if they stunt them from figuring out how to find happiness on their own terms?

Congrats, you thought about this more than the creators ever did.

>>149003857
They forget it all. Actually I think Dad literally had Cosmo and Wanda as fairiesand he can't remember shit about his childhood

>>149004069
Bill Gates had the fairies.
>They forget it all.
Then what's the point? If they don't even have the memories to enjoy, why even have fairies? They're only gonna remember the bad parts of their childhood.

>>149004155
Actually I don't think they forget the good parts. The materialistic things. The only thing they forget is the fairies. I remember one episode Timmy was grown up and looked at an old picture. Instead of Cosmo and Wanda there were just two goldfish.

When Tootie got her memory erased at the end of Birthday Wish she still remembered the birthday party she wished for, just not how she got it. So they still remember good things that happened to them, the memory erasure is only if they totally fuck up like Crocker did...

>>149004271
Tootie is very cute! And funny!

>>149001561
>missing tooth for some reason
it's almost like timmy has a bucktooth and it's a nice contrast

The show demonstrably declined without her.

>>148999103
Trixie probably had one, but snitched.

>>148998996 (OP)
His parents resent him, and wanted a girl instead.

We're getting another season, right?

>>149003044
>middle class white 10 year old whose parents are still together
>relatable to most of nickelodeon's audience at the time
>cartoon gets 10 seasons

>upper-middle class black 10 year old whose parents are still together
>relatable to maybe 1% of netflix
>cartoon gets exactly 1 season split into 2 parts

>>148998996 (OP)
>>149000099
>I'm a 15 year old girl (13 at the start of the IP) who lives in a apartment with a single mom (never married) and a few friends.
>Biological dad is part of a biker group who goes around helping others, fucked 4 other women so I have 5 half siblings (one of the women he fucked had twins).
>Best friend is a girl who is 4 years younger then me that I see as a non blood related younger sister and owns a hamster who goes to a underground clubhouse and sometimes a magical candy land.
>But I need a fairy more then Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck and Porky Pig.
>Because...
>There is this boy I like that some other girl is trying to steal him away from me and the fairy lives with me because he pays my mom $500 (later $800) a month for his rent because a single mom can only make so much money.

>>149006242
Very telling that the fanbase has latched onto the trouble rich white boy over the MC

>>148999027
The real question is why did Timmy need two godparents?
>we're two halves of a whole idiot!
Yeah, but Cosmo and Wanda seem to work fine when separated. It's not like when one is not with the other the wish doesn't work.

>>149005797
Its been out of production for like over a year with no hints of anything having resumed, so I'm going to assume no.

Strange because it was without a doubt the most successful thing FOP has put out since Poof's introduction movie

>>149006910
They still wait for Netflix to renew A New Wish.

If Netflix will not give this show an actual second season, then this will be truly the end of the FOP franchise.

bump

>>148999299
Unless, say, a society of magical reality warpers could casually wave a magic wand and change things for those desperate children that are likely miserable.

But that'd be cartoonish, right?

>>149002804
Anon just casually admitting he killed FOP staff if he couldn't get them fired for not using his fanfic...

>>149007146
FOP has just been left in such a sad state its impossible to even reboot it. The last couple of seasons were terrible and introduced concepts that were largely derided. The show's crew didn't really listen to fan complaints and instead just doubled down on spamming the same characters and putting out a boring cheap product until eventually another show (TLH) came and took their lunch.

ANW showed that even with entirely new characters, that having some form of character development and continuity even in a comedic show like this can work very well. That's why Dev became a popular character, he's the male version of what Trixie Tang should have been. Cosmo and Wanda weren't at each others throats. It was actually a refreshing watch, even though I didn't find Hazel's friends to be that interesting compared to Chester, Aj, Tootie or the rest.

>>149003437
Fae are often subject to seemingly arbitrary rules.

>>149008014
God I wish I was the bug up her butt

>>149006896
It's not that he needed two godparents, it's that godparenting is a full-time live-in job, and Cosmo and Wanda are married. It's about them, not Timmy. It's not that they can't work separately, it's that they want to work together.

ANW got Amazing Digital Troonout levels of viewership when they did stuff with the old characters, Nick should just make a movie (animated no more live action shit) as a final send off for this cartoon, it would certainly do better than Unvader Zim Enter the Floppus

>>149008014
The problem was that kids were not the ones watching The Loud House, that was almost strictly adult men lusting over the girls with a few shotacon fujos in there for good measure, kids avoided it because everyone was a flat one dimensional stereotype and whatever normies did touch it ran screaming to the hills very early on in the end because of Clyde's 2 gay dads.

Nick only kept it because by 2016 cable was on it's death bed and Nick was despite to get any ratings and got the views from adult perverts, in 2006 Nick would've killed it but by 2016 Nick was willing to take anything.

>>149008102
Anon if that were true then Pedo House would've had it's second season abruptly cucked and cancelled like Unvader Zim's was back in 2002, because nobody was watching that shit besides hot topic landwhales that were out of Nickelodeon's prime demographic (K-8 boys). Yes, TLH has its share of creeps, and its shippers are a level of crackshipping and hostility that even the Timmy ships couldn't match, but it legitimately did well in drawing in Nick's prime demo too. It's a male lead show, its first season dealt with relatable family issues, and at the time it came out FoP was doing retarded shit like Sparky or Chloe or a gorillion Crocker episodes so it was in prime "declining empire" mode ripe to be taken over, like Persia is by Israel now.

>>149000569
TRUUUUE

>>149003462
Timmy was always kind of dumb, but it was good to see him land on his feet. Tootie (or if you want to believe Trixie) was a good choice for his waifu since they shared many wholesome moments in the series. The Vicky robot was kind of dumb though I agree, but Timmy isn't really being cruel to his kids the same way his parents were, he's going to work instead of leaving them out of something cool.

>>149008182
If Loud House premiered back in 2006 that would be the case, but by 2016 cable was on it's death bed and Nick took whatever ratings they can get to stay afloat.

Kids avoided The Loud House because everyone was a flat one dimensional stereotype and Clyde's 2 gay dads.

>>149008450
Holy shit I remember you. You were in a thread a few months ago trying to push the same arguments about kids not watching the show and that some fanart someone drew was actually AI generated.

>>149008496
Different guy.

But on the subject of AI, AI has got good enough that you can make your own style out of it and have it look like it was hand made, case in point, this X post of Lucy Loud.
https://x.com/pyororingen/status/1929925265406472576

Honestly the thing that bothered me more about this show wasn't how Timmy had TWO fairies over other people who only had one. It was the fact that when he grew to become an adult his memories would be wiped and he would be left hanging to just be a even more miserable adult now that his childhood is just gone.

>>149008102
>>149008450
This just smells like cope. If the Loud House was just timeslot filler it wouldn't have gotten a movie, a spinoff, and a live-action show. Also I doubt anyone gives two shits about Clyde's dads and if it was a problem the show would've either been cancelled earlier or they would've been removed

>>149008496
I should've read this before I typed up my previous post because if it's a well enough known schizo that you can identify them like this they're probably too insane to comprehend basic logic

>>149008593
He seemed fine at the end of channel chasers
I think he doesn't 100% forget about his fairies, since at least the feeling of having them remains on the back of his mind

>>149006830
This was unavoidable.
Timmy is now trans.

Timmy WON

>>149008674
Timmy fucked everyone here except for Tootie because she's an incel

>>149008674
I like the fags that deny Vicky is into Timmy with all the pedo ara ara shit she's done in the show

>>149008686
Copers get laughed at here.

>>149008616
No it's not.

By 2016 cable was on it's death bed and Nick needed cheap fuller that wasn't SpongeBob related and Loud House was it.

The movie, the spinoff and the live-action show were all fuller.

Everyone went ballistic over Clyde's 2 gay dads, people liked Smithers because that was adult animation, but with Clyde's 2 gay dads people were pissed beyond belief because it was kids animation as so everyone that wasn't a lolicon/shotacon ran screaming to the hills because of it

The only thing that The Loud House proved is that along side Big Mouth (a show that was actually aimed at the lolicon/shotacon market) is that America does have a heathy lolicon/shotacon market.

In 2006 it would've been canceled, by 2016 they take anything they can get, case in point PreCure is aimed at 7-11 year old girls but more 18-35 year old men were watching PreCure then 7-11 year old girls, Toei ignores the men because TV was on it's death bed and took the ratings/sales because it was something rather then nothing on a medium that was on it's death bed.

>>149008714
Vicky continues to groom shotas to this very day

>>149008733
Funny you mention Precure when the current season has an actual lesbian character and nobody's upset by it

>>149008814
They are (see 5ch and Japanese parental forums), but thats Japan, they view things differently then the west and shojo always had yuri elements in it (see Sailor Moon and Cardcaptor Sakura).

>>148998996 (OP)
The worst thing about the internet is that it gave autists who think too much about cartoons a platform.

>>148998996 (OP)
>but I need fairies more than a homeless orphan or a war refugee

Nobody's getting fairies because of their situation. Otherwise, there would be all-out war between godchildren and armed forces.

This thread looks sub-below avergae IQ, btw.

>>149008721
Timcels deserve more than being laughed at. They deserve public execution.

>>149008851
Do Japs complain about "degeneracy in the media" too?

>>148998996 (OP)
His babysitter was also hot, He really did have 0 real problems, What a selfish faggot

>>149003606
He was picked by Butch because his last job was a camp counselor at a church camp. He's probably the one slinging the meth and not cooking it.

>>149006824
Why do you keep projecting your pedophilia in every thread?

>>149008950
Yes, extremely yes.

>>149008978
Mirumo De Pon is a normie anime, it is not Kodomo No Jikan.

>>149000549
>It’s not just her brother, she’s forced to leave her old school, life, and friends behind. Hazel has a tough time adjusting to change and the unknown due to her anxiety and (probably) autism.
Those things really don't require fairies.

>>149008999
Not what I asked, pedocom.

>>149009223
This was drew by a EVIL person.

So I fixed it.

>>149008099
23.2M views on twitter doesn't mean shit when 80% of all activity on that site is bots and indians

>>149009038
They do if they make you unhappy, even more so for Hazel since she tends to act rashly.

>>149009379
K, so Timmy deserves fairies too. He's bullied, his teacher harasses him, and his parents are idiots.

>>149009352
Turned out those numbers were fake as the image was shopped.

>>149008924
>Nobody's getting fairies because of their situation.
Why not? A situation is a huge factor in whether a kid's life sucks or rocks. Acting like there's an equal amount of sad rich kids compared to sad poor kids is just copium.

>>149009404
Who the fuck has ever argued that Timmy doesn’t deserve his fairies

>>149008099
>Nick should just make a movie (animated no more live action shit) as a final send off for this cartoon
Only if Nick actually cares to do it which I doubt about it.

>>149003437
Because fairy hunters exist
Like that one substitute who was Crocker but far more competent

>>148999103
>If Timmy is miserable with Vicky as a babysitter, imagine how Tootie must feel. Shouldn’t she have had a fairy too?
my personal headcanon for this is that the reason Tootie doesn't have a Fairy of her own is that Fairyworld considers her living in the same house as Vicky too high of a security risk to be worth risking

this sort of security risk is also why the "homeless orphan or war refugee" types of kid in OP >>148998996 (OP) don't get Fairies either(basically after one of Cosmo & Wanda's previous godkids literally caused World War I with a wish, Fairyworld has gotten incredibly picky with what kids they allow to have Fairies and have so tightened up Da Rules with restrictions and regulations to the current state where most kids who get Fairies aren't even all that miserable and even those usually lose them within a week of getting them*)

*in this scenario I'm picturing the "Fairy Shortage" that led to Timmy having to share Cosmo & Wanda with Chloe to not be because there's suddenly too many kids who need fairies, but that instead more and more fairies are just quitting being God Parents all together as they're starting to feel the futility of doing it in the first place under the current system

>>149009011
"Christmas Cake" Vicky is always a fun concept

>>149001542
>Spends most of the time with his parents
Did we watch the same show

>>149009709
I thought the backstory was that she had a fairy once upon a time, but like most kids, she failed to keep the secret, and lost the fairy quickly.

>>149010297
Obviously you didn't watch enough. They go randomly at times but it's normally something in the day or evening and then they're back. They're with him in the mornings, most days, and most nights. There are kids who don't see their parents for days. Timmy never had that problem.

>>149000889
That doesn't matter, according to the fairies. You're basically saying "I disagree" and the fairies would respond with "you also don't make the rules".

>>149010933
Maybe the fairies should be slayed.

Timmy literally lent his fairies to Tootie once and she immediately almost blew it up

>>149003380
>>>/a/
apparently it was

>give fairies to War Orphan
>I wish my side would win
>*BRRRRRAAAAAP* Sorry sport we can't just commit genocide
>I wish the war never happened
>oooh paki timmy is all see-through. Maybe we can't have a war orphan if there's no war
>I wish both sides would give up?
>Not only is our side the Greyest and the blobbiest. we also have agreed to wage war on every other country.
At least a suburban youth knows what he wants. Even if its just some toy or pet. If you never smelled the good life you'll just make lofty pie in the sky wishes

>>149009011
I like the idea of Timmy and Vicky working in or near the same space as adults, and Timmy's the one consistently giving her shit or raining on her parade. That'd be pretty funny.

>>149010620
>>149012070
tootie never actually exposes cosmo and wanda in that episode.
>FOR HEAVENS SAKE CHILD SPIT IT OUT!

>>149012070
>blew it up
Mad Stan approves.

>>149008674
Timmy canonically lost his virginity to Carly.

>>149013701
He lost it to Crocker the first time he F'd Timmy.

>>149014685
Damn, Tootie is the cuck of cucks, she even got cucked by pedo Crocker

>>149014734
You should seek help. It's very sad to be this mindbroken by the canon ending.
I don't even think Digimonfags coped and seethed that bad.

>>149014789
>I don't even think Digimonfags coped and seethed that bad.
Can I get a quick rundown on the Digimon ending?

>>149002802
Who says homeless orphans and war refugees DON’T have fairies?

>>149014887
been a while but wasnt it something to do with the way it that series was translated?

>>149000549
Any apartment with more than one room is luxury these days.

>>148998996 (OP)
FAN THEORY, Timmy was an Orphan/Refugee and he wished for that life and is STILL miserable because all the adults in his life are neglectful

>>149015768
The world needs the message Grow Up Timmy Turner was pushing now more than ever.

>>149015845
>>149015768
Daniella Monet gave birth to a son and daughter...

>>149015845
dunno about that but I wouldn't mind more aged up Tootie designs in fanart taking more cues from LA Tootie when it comes to her fashion sense, most people just kind of lazily have her have barely changed her style at all from her 8 year old self(though unlike LA Tootie I do think she should keep her glasses and the pigtails)

>>149016127
Sadly thats just what Butch's writing devolved into, that Tootie herself needed to be changed to "deserve Timmy" when that wasn't really an issue in the early seasons. The love interests just became trophies that Timmy would win by wishing harder or whatever.

>>149016724
What happened, did Timmy die?

>>149016754
Dunno I think it's just some tumblr feels bait.

>no fairies
>no friends
>sister treats her like shit
>Timmy is too busy trying to bang Trixie and probably gets molested by Vicky
Is Tootie the biggest loser in the show?

>>148998996 (OP)
You forgot a crucial point: The kid HAS to believe in fairies

>is happy without fairies
>alpha girl of the squirrel puffs
>makes her aging sister jealous
>cucked Trixie on the park bench so bad her fans made video essays about it, and turned her sister into a robot slave for her and Timmy's children

Is Tootie the biggest winner in the show?

>>149016901
>>149016724
Timcels hate Tootie even if she's the best option. Timmy "shouldn't have to settle" for a PhD marine biologist who is the same race and religion and loves him unconditional

>>149016944
That sounds like the adventure time fanbase and people complaining about HW being a consolation prize for Finn or whatever.
This show is more along the lines that every option sucks in some way, but so does Timmy, and Tootie's flaws are offset enough by her being a rare genuine good person in the cartoon, so just wholesale changing her appearance was unnecessary. At the least I agree she should've kept the glasses.

>>149016979
>but so does Timmy
That's the part Timmy self inserters ignore.

>>149016724
honestly I still hold to my theory that LA Tootie only became Tootie(rather than an OC love interest) rather late in the movie's development considering how little at all she and her animated counterpart have in common(meanwhile literally every other character from the show that made it into the LA movies is basically 100% identical aside from being older)

course this also leads into my other theory that they ended up creating Chloe to fill a role similar to LA Tootie in the show since Tootie as is wouldn't work for that role and they probably couldn't think of a good reason to suddenly have her be more like her LA counterpart either, so they just made Chloe to fill a similar role instead

>>149016944
>>149016979
from what I've seen most fans who go with other love interests for Timmy mostly do so not out of any dislike or disdain for Tootie(indeed most such fanfics I've seen will still have Tootie around as part of his friends group), they just tend to find Tootie as the primary love interest a bit too safe and easy since she already loves him and realistically Timmy's likely to reciprocate her feelings once Tootie hits puberty, so they instead go with other love interests because there's more drama involved in getting things together*

*well that or they're Timmy/Jimmy fujos(personally I have nothing against that ship but I do find it really boring due to how oversaturated it is in the fanfic segment these days, like if you're going to do FOP Yaoi there's much more interesting potential pairings to do for Timmy)

>>149008593
The cashiers smile always gets me

>>149016944
I don't care about Timmy, i just said that Tootie is a loser

>>149017055
>how little
I don't think Tootie was that different, other than her makeover, and that's kind of the point. They didn't really have time to work much romance into the plot, so better to just use a girl that's already in love with him to establish the aging out of fairies plot. Aside from that, Tootie does have the traits of being brave, smart, likes animals, and aversion to destruction, so making her any other character would've been a reach.

Chloe I think was just executive meddling that Butch just went with because he was sick of the show anyway.

>>148999103
I feel like it was mentioned at least once that she was given one but fucked up real fast because she can't keep a secret, so she's basically been blacklisted from ever getting fairies.
Even if I'm remembering wrong, Birthday Wish shows us she absolutely would not be able to maintain having a fairy regardless.

>>148998996 (OP)
Timmy has abandonment issues that causes him to use his fairy godparents as substitutes for his real parents, if some starving kid in africa got a fairy, they would be taken away in like a day because the only wishes needed to get rid of the misery are "I wish I didn't live in africa" and "I wish I had more money" but Timmy's misery is self inflicted, he can't wish to get rid of the misery in his life because it would mean losing the only parental figures he has in his life

>>149018146
>blacklisted
Anon your headcanons don't count. No child is blacklisted in the FOP universe except Crocker and that girl who looked like Darla Dimple that wished up WW1.

I'm pretty sure Birthday Wish was one of those aborted plots that FOP's first cancellation eliminated. They seem to be really building toward giving Tootie and Chester a fairy, or at least figuring out Timmy's secret.

What would a 10 year old wish for now? Infinite v-bucks and a Bugatti?

How come Tootie getting a fairy is so important to people or not? It's a neat idea, but I think only the season 1-4 writers would've been able to execute it and even then only if Tootie was toned down to 'Channel Chasers' levels. Same with Trixie's comic book stuff.. It's wasted potential, whether you believe or not it should've or could've happened, but they already blew their load with Chloe and that idea and it was of course badly executed.

>>148998996 (OP)
Timmy is a Chosen people obv

>>149018211
Then why does his dad hate Dinkleberg so much?

>>149018146
>>149018207
because it wasn't properly explained, just implied, same with Chester... he by all rights SHOULD, the show says as much, but doesn't because something about Timmy existing,??
Butch had no idea how to write two, or even three kids with fairies

>>149018237
Chloe was a complete and udder girlfailure because they had no idea how to write her into the rest of the cast. But as a standalone character I didn't mind her. The way season 10 was written though was basically "We re-do a season 1 or 2 episode, except its Chloe and less characters this time".

>>149006896
because cosmo is an idiot and the fairies who rule demand she keep track of him or they would drum out cosmo and send him home to mama cosmo.

>>149000099
>>149001561
LOOOOOL its literally the same exact thing

>>149018255
I'm a Tootiechad but I also like Chloe. The freckles do it for me. She and Tootie should've been friends.

>>149018207
Birthday Wish introduces a concept but doesn't really provide a solid answer for it nor was the episode ever really followed up on. So it's in a way Tootie's "Boy Who Would Be Queen".

>>149001712
I think people forget that FOP just started off as a loose ripoff of Cinderella.

>>148999299
You do know we’re talking about a cartoon right

>>149001712
We make fun of Enter because he threw a shitfit over the ending of Love Struck even though it was widely beloved by fans and crew alike.

Think he could argue semantics by wishing for Bitcoin?
>But it's not a currency, it's a line of code!

>>149018207
>>149018237
It could've been fun, especially if all the wishes contradicted each other.
MAGICAL FAIRY FIGHT

>>149018204
Fortnite Battle Pass

>>149018237
>he by all rights SHOULD, the show says as much
The show says that fairies are for miserable children, and Chester isn't miserable.

>>148998996 (OP)
Dude, where do you think most third world dictators with ridiculous origin stories come from?

>>149018237
>Butch had no idea how to write two, or even three kids with fairies
Another mine of untapped potential honestly. They only really approached this topic with Remy and the one-off episode where Timmy can't make wishes with two other kids. Man this show was a trainwreck in hindsight

>>149018772
Why, did he want Timmy to fuck Trixie?

>>149014887
>quick rundown
Matt and Sora stay together from childhood, through their teen years, and get married and have kids
Tai is an incel that stays in the digital world with Agumon

>>149014685
How was Butch still able to work at Nick after writing that episode where Crocker rapes Timmy and he commits suicide

>>149021518
>we got countless scenes of timmy in his underwear but none with chloe
Hmm butch

>>149008777
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks she's got a few boytoys.

>>149020512
iirc he just went off on some tangent about tootie being le stalker, even though it had fuck all to do with the episode. just shippertard stuff.

>>149022028
Didn't he also get salty about gay people not being mentioned when the world gets divided between men and women (despite the fact that this show aired in the early 2000s)?

>>149022044
yeah that too.... no fags, too much stereotypes, and the girl he was rooting for didnt win

>>149021967
We can't have the fairer sex being discriminated against, now can we?

>>149020681
Classic

Bump

>>149022007
She's gotta defend her /ss/ title.