Thread 149165074

Honestly can't wait for Ragatha's mindbreak next episode

Ragatha hoofjob

>>149165074 (OP)
Incest with Jax

>>149165135
>In a relatively normie TADC group
>every time Jax and Ragatha sibling theory is brought up, whole group wretches at the idea of incest like it' a cursed unspeakable fetish
I forget how deep into it I am. Incest barely even registers to me

Shamelessly crossposting something I found on tumblr because tumblr show.
Your thoughts, /tadc/?

>>149165246
Being against incest but also against eugenics is one of the most peculiar cognitive dissonances of the normie mind.

>>149165550
Frankly I'm against incest for reasons of being against grooming, not childbirth. But also if you know your child with a specific person is likely to have horrible mutations, it might be best not to have sex with that one specific person. This is different than eugenics.

TADC

>I hate him, but want him to like me
She definitely has something for Jax.

>>149165575
I know the whole "he he they should have hatesex" thing is overplayed for basically every pairing in fiction that features two characters that don't like one another, but holy SHIT is it true for Ragatha+Jax. These two are like a mirror of one another. So now neither of them will be virgins.

>>149165480
Took the words I forgot to use out of my mouth
Ragatha's issue isn't that she's trying to make others feel good to avoid how she felt under her mother, she's desperately seeking the validation and love her mother didn't give her for her own sake.

>>149165564
I have mixed feelings. I suspect that a properly functioning human wouldn't feel the desire for incest, just as they wouldn't feel the desire for necrophilia, zoophilia, etc., and therefor there's something wrong with your brain if you do desire those things. That's my objection to most philias.

>Hey! Remember when you got high at McDonalds and told Gangle to kill herself?!
lole

>>149165130
what are you fucking talking about

>>149165867
Vogue queen

Post best dads

>>149165550
I always just tell people I'm okay with incest, and then challenge them about what applies with incest that doesn't apply with gays or people with genetic disabilities.
>"It's disgusting!"
>So? People said being gay is disgusting.
>"Genetics!"
>"Do you think it should be legal to stop people with disabilities from loving each other?"
They just break down. It's a mental BSOD for normies. They can't think rationally. They get confused and panicky when they haven't been told what to think.

>>149165890
Here something sweater.

Will Jax find a maid outfit in his room now?

>>149166189
Things that never happened at 2.

>>149166259
only if Gangle stealthily puts it there

>>149166259
>>149166348
With a diaper that's also conveniently fitted for Jax

>>149166259
Glad I'm not the only disappointed when I noticed the maid outfit had a boob window

>>149166295
I've done it to like four different groups of people.
You're just too much of a pussy to imagine it, lol. You can't even lightly mock someone without feeling humiliated and scared, no wonder you just hide inside all day masturbating your small cock.

so can this nigga caine influence their behavior and minds too? it was established that he can't, but jax vegan, ragatha stupid sauce, and presumably alcohol seem to suggest otherwise.

>>149166513
>it was established that he can't
I wouldn't say him saying it is establishing anything.

>>149166259
Isn’t this guy a fat artist?

>>149166513
He's an ai that follows it's own guildline
They believe that he can't but the rules can be very much twisted

>>149166513
In the first episode it's shown they can't curse

I believe that's affecting their behavior already

>>149166189
>"It's disgusting!"
Yes
>So? People said being gay is disgusting
Yes
>"Genetics!"
Yes
>"Do you think it should be legal to stop people with disabilities from loving each other?"
Yes

>>149166574
The point is, you force normies to either comprehend why LGBTQBBQ+ shit is disgusting, or you force them to, at the very least, own up to their hedonist worldview and stop lying about it.
If they really BELIEVE the shit the fags are saying, that consenting adults should be able to love whoever they want, then it's reasonable to fucking make them stand by those ideas.

>>149166259

When he was made a vegan Zooble did say she could have done worse to him.

>>149166451
Someone needs to take their meds. And internet arguments do not count as wins moron.

What's up 4chan nerds. Can't believe you losers are wanting to %$#* me.

>>149166648
If you're too pussy to have an argument on the internet, maybe you should keep your faggy little comments to yourself then?
Queer. Shut the fuck up.

>>149166624
The fact that you are retarded enough to generalize things to such a degree proves you don't understand shit you are saying. You are trying to argue that 2 rando gays is the same as say a father marrying his adult daughter. You are fucking retarded.

>>149166659
Evil Pomni was cool, she'd be fun to watch retarded movies and smoke weed with

>>149166659
'sup fuckers

>>149166679
I said you were a faggot for not arguing this shit in person. Can you fucking read?

>>149166659
SEXO

>>149166682
It is the same, lol.
Faggots breed through grooming too, so you can't even say that's a substantive difference. Every faggot was already molested, so yeah, the scenarios are the same. You just approve of one disgusting perversion but not the other because of purely cultural reasons you can't even articulate without it being obvious how obviously wrong your retarded ideas are.

You think it was intentional to spoil the secret figurine?

>>149166736
Lots of bullshit to stretch you claim. I need numbers for "all faggots were molested." So far, only thing I have seen diddled was you by the preacher. Your basic argument is "I made shit up. Now I'm right."
Here's something. Most faggots exist because the church kept raping them. We need to get rid of the church to stop the faggot pipeline.

>>149166659
I don't. I want the real Pomni and I want the sex to be tender.

>>149166688
I have just the thing.

>>149166736
Why are you arguing so strongly in favor of incest?

Is your mom like really hot or something? Got a sexy sister? What is it?

>>149166849
Well, I'm not in favor of incest. I just always tell people I am because people like you completely pop.
Since you're kind of dumb, let me explain this to you in very clear terms: The way you see me, right now, is how other people see you when you defend gay shit. That's why people think you're disgusting.
In other words, I'm mocking your own behavior, and you're too retarded for that to compute.
Learn from this experience and be less of a disgusting fag in the future.

>>149166960
Pretentious. You sound like a tranny. The way you are right now looks like a child that failed elementary school and decided an apple is the same as a hot wheels car. Fix your arguments because they are broken.

>>149166960
>>149167026
now kiss, with maid outfits on

>>149165480
>it's another episode in "a TADC fan doesn't understand pathological people-pleasing"

The only person Ragatha is actually hurting is Ragatha. She's not some horrid demon under the mask, hiding her true feelings to get what she wants - none of this is conscious for someone like Ragatha, it's a reflex she's learned likely by growing up with a narcissistic parent.

The closest thing to the kind of toxic positivity these Ragatha bashing/Jax fellating sessions bring up in TADC is not from Ragatha, and it's something none of these people picked up on: it's actually Zooble suggesting the plastic mask to Gangle without a full understanding of Gangle's state underneath whatever mask she's wearing. The "tragedy mask" isn't a mask, it's her actual face. By the end of episode 4 (made very clear in episode 5), Zooble appears to have realized that giving Gangle reasons to smile without a mask on is the only way to help her in the long term.

Jax and Gangle are both afraid of opening up to people, expressed in their own way: Jax fears the shame of needing help, Gangle fears getting help she feels she doesn't deserve (depression is nasty shit). Ragatha, on the other hand, never really learned how. There is a solid chance that RAGATHA doesn't know how genuine she's being or not. She hasn't had the chance to really explore who she is and who she wants to be, she's been navigating life by becoming whatever she thinks those around her want her to be.

I feel like a lot of people (especially the show's younger audience) have severely overestimated the dishonesty at play here because they've latched on to the "fake persona" bit without understanding what pathological people-pleasers are really doing. They're very often subconsciously trying to become whatever they need to be to defuse the benign reactions from neurotypicals that they've learned to fear from unstable people (usually narcissists) close to them.

>>149167026
You literally didn't have a counterargument in the first place, you just got angry and started spazzing out, lol.
In addition to that, you're projecting. You want to call me 'pretentious' then you sit there and put on airs as if this is debate club.
I'm not hear to convince you. That's obviously impossible.
I'm hear to wind you up until you spaz the fuck out, then I laugh at how retarded you are and move on with my life. That's what's happening.
You're a hypocrite, AND you don't really have any counter for what I said other than getting pissed off.
Why is being gay fine, but being into incest bad? Even if I were into incest, how is that any different than being a queer like you are? It's just another depraved fetish when all is said and done. How are they different?

>>149167097
Someone is retreating. Haha. You spout nonsense bullshit and then cry when people call you out on it. Fucking weak. Stop trying to be a tranny victim and be a man for once.

>>149167097
>I'm hear
lol
lmao

>>149167094
>There is a solid chance that RAGATHA doesn't know how genuine she's being or not. She hasn't had the chance to really explore who she is and who she wants to be, she's been navigating life by becoming whatever she thinks those around her want her to be.

As an autistic person sorry this really speaks to me. In the ASD 'community' this is referred to as 'masking,' and it's an essential survival tactic for those of us high-functioning enough to attempt societal integration.

>>149166768
what was the secret figurine?

everyone should just chill out and ponder these orbs, man

>>149167454
Why are orbs the opposite of ribbons?

>>149165074 (OP)
Honestly can't wait when you aren't a FAGGOT!

>>149167329
Possessed Pomni

s-shimp

Zooble enjoyers have been really quiet about their character being the idiot that is gonna make Caine go either bonkers or kill himself via petty bullying

>>149167497
>Possessed Pomni
That's, like, episode 3 stuff.

>>149167673
Zooble Enjoyer here, I hope Zooble brings an endgame to the circus

>>149167475
Ribbons are thin, orbs are solid. It's a pretty simple equation.

>>149167289
Don’t apologize for being autistic
>>149167637
You know, Ragatha, you could just ask and see if they’ll let you join in

>>149166569
>I believe that's affecting their behavior already
Replacing the sound their mouth makes and adding a censor bar isn't changing their behavior.

>>149167673
Also Zooble Enjoyer here
WAR WILL COME

>>149167475
>Why are orbs the opposite of ribbons?
They aren't. The joke was that he just forgot Gangle existed and filled the team out with a random NPC.

>>149167756
I think Zooble should make out with Bazooble

>>149165480
all I'll add is that I suspect outside of the circus Ragatha mitigated it by being a little league softball coach.
also, the "I hate you, but I don't want you to hate me" bit from episode 4 all but confirms this is how Ragatha relates to Jax.

>>149167825
>why do I keep getting all the drooling weirdos?

>>149167705
>>149167756
How do y'all feel about the likely fate that Caine will rearrange your fave's guts like a lego building set in well deserved revenge

>>149167749
I doubt they'd let her after last episode if anything Jax would make fun of her for asking and Pomni would snicker at said joke

>>149167915
Martyrdom is the best ending for most characters.
You die and suddenly everyone loves you.

>>149167673
>petty bullying
I think it's fair to say the bullying isn't petty. He is sorta imprisoning them against their will.

Even if they somehow survive this bullshit, their lives are almost definitely ruined by the passage of time, and there's no fucking way they're getting a lawsuit out of this shit since the building was abandoned.

Only person with an argument there is maybe Ragatha if she was there as part of her work as a real estate agent on behalf of whoever owns the property now.

Seriously, they're gonna be coming back to seized houses and apartments, all their shit thrown away or sold off, no jobs, all their relatives and friends having thought they were dead and moved on, some of them might even be out romantic relationships. Worst case scenario, someone's had kids taken by the state or they've missed court hearings and are now wanted criminals.

>>149167825
If nothing else, it would make finding where their mouths are easier

>>149167094
Nobody is actually saying ragatha is hurting anyone. The episode made it clear that not even jax is hurt by her, except when she crosse his line, and no one even dislikes her. Her misery is her own making and she needs to do something about it, but she won't because she can't see it. She's not pleasing others for their sake, she's doing it because she craves praise and validation to protect herself from her mommy issues.

>>149167749
>Don’t apologize for being autistic

Sorry. I'm an older millennial, so I wasn't exactly raised to be 'okay' with my diagnosis. I was brought up to live by the maxim of "If there are no symptoms, there is no disease," for example.

>>149166659
Not me.

>>149167780
I thought it was because we already saw an "Evil" Gangle

>>149167936
I think it's foolish to believe that they're coming back at all. Pomni's already been there long enough for her body to die of dehydration. I think the person who theorized that they're just SOMA-style brainscanes has it right: there is no escape, and their best hope for something similar is to seize control of the game and turn it into some sort of virtual Eden.

>>149168039
Excuse me, I meant to say 'brainscans.'

>>149167932
I have a sneaky suspicion someone here is going to sacrifice themselves for someone else.

>>149165480
/co/mblr

>>149168008
How about you just stop obsessing over it and get on with yourself?
I'm a neurotic older than i wish man with adhd and I can tell you I don't want anyone to be like me. Find something constructive you're good and find validation in doing a good job. Also be polite and people will get you.

>>149168039
Well then, Ragatha mentioning how her mother doesn't miss her wouldn't have much value at the end if they're just animal crossing npcs

>>149168039
You're assuming they're hooked up to something and we're not dealing with a sucked into a computer situation.

I'm pretty sure if someone saw VR goggles surrounded by corpses, they wouldn't put them on.

Course this could actually be limbo and they're all already dead too.

>>149168039
I honestly don't get this argument
>there's a game from the 90s that somehow has advanced, adaptive AI that can run for decades at a time
>has 3D graphics rivalling the best of what we have, prerendered, now in 2025 (presumably it'd look even better if not for the fact we IRL are limited by our current technology)
>has a vast, adaptable and completely resulptable world created by an AI director, who is basically self-aware, and can similarly create countless dozens of equally self aware NPCs, on the fly
>has the ability to simulate light, sound, smell, touch, and taste, as well as the sensation of falling asleep
>ALL IN THE 90S (or if you want to say it's set in the modern day - ALL IN THE MODERN DAY, which is only a little less impressive)
>but what would they eat and drink???"
If you can believe all this shit, is it that hard to believe there's a pod you crawl into before you put the headset on that takes care of all that shit?

>>149167993
>she's doing it because she craves praise and validation
>>it's another episode in "a TADC fan doesn't understand pathological people-pleasing"

>>149167936
Caine didn't force them to get into the game, they did on their own volition or out of curiosity and being stuck in there is not his fault either although I'll give it to you that he MIGHT be retaining some information on how to get out because he "needs" performers for the circus/adventures and they are the most he can get until they abstract (which, as far as we know is the second way out)

>Seriously, they're gonna be coming back to seized houses and apartments, all their shit thrown away or sold off, no jobs, all their relatives and friends having thought they were dead and moved on, some of them might even be out romantic relationships. Worst case scenario, someone's had kids taken by the state or they've missed court hearings and are now wanted criminals.
I personally doubt that is really the case and it's a really inescapable situation to be stuck in the circus so whatever life they left is gone for good. Zooble's complaining isn't even about being stuck with Caine, their whole criticism is that he sucks at his job and it's making their already ruined lives more miserable by forcing them to larp out his shitty worldbuilding fantasy games

>>149168080
29-year-old ADHD + Aspie lurker here, people can feel however they want about their mental disorders and I'm personally sick of high-functioning ones telling me it isn't that bad. This isn't your life, it's someone else's, and people can have it worse unfortunately.

>>149168132
We've seen the headsets.

80s logic people. They got sucked into the game. There are no bodies left in the real world. When they escape, they will all reappear.

>>149166659
Who said anything about me doing you? caine will make sure you and Pomni will feel his ungloved hands real soon and enjoy it

>>149165714
incest comes off as a feeling of desperation for human contact that is familiar
this is why living in thriving communities with various people is healthy for individuals emotionally, and physically

>>149168155
>people can feel however they want about their mental disorders
Well then enjoy being a miserable burden on other people.
I sincerely want others to be better and happier for it. You don't have to live your life under the control of your problems. You be can overcome them and take control over your own fate.
But whatever I guess

>>149166768
It was rather obvious anyway, might be a legal thing too
Also President Pomni and Anime Gangle are so cute

>>149168132
NTA but none of this is a coherent criticism because you can just go
>there's full-dive VR tech that can also keep your body alive indefinitely (despite being completely abandoned) ALL IN THE 90s??????

The brain scan theory actually has a tech level explanation that you'd realize immediately if you knew the plot of SOMA - just sitting on the brain scan files for an indeterminate amount of time, the circus could be using them hundreds or even thousands of years in the future. There is no simulation tech limit there as long as the files were preserved, which is a much smaller assumption than yet more 1990s tech we've never seen mentioned or suggested.

There's also the fact that full dive VR needs to do brain scanning and manipulation in real time to even have the players control the characters - they need that tech in either theory.

Ultimately, Occam's Razor - digitization and pod people with autonomous life support needs more non-observed details to be assumed than the brain scan theory does, since the only thing mentioned (or seen - it's on the desk next to the old C&A computer) was a headset, not a pod.

>Pomni thinks the circus is hell
>Jax thinks the circus is hell
>Ragatha thinks the circus isn't hell
In the end, this is why Pomni and Jax can bond.

>>149168356
>Jax thinks the circus is hell
Does he though???
He seems pretty happy here for the most part. Part of it is a mask, but, not all of it

>>149168282
>ungloved hands
beyond lewd, downright obscene

>>149168080
I don't think I'm obsessive. I'm an anxious neurotic who struggles to adapt to sudden change, but I have a job that I enjoy and that I'm good at, and I feel like I make a positive difference in other people's lives on a weekly basis.

I was just mentioning that Ragatha's perpetual people-pleasing persona resonated with me, because it reminded me of the masking I have to do so that I don't come across as excessively weird to my friends and coworkers.

>>149168301
Not that anon, but you seriously are the problem. Youre not helping, and youre not listening. People with those disorders know they feel a burden on others they care(d) about. That is why they either isolate from them to keep from lashing out at them OR just lash out without any self awareness. Just saying pulling yourself up from your boot straps IS the problem. So shut up, youre ignorant on the issue, and mind your own business until it affects YOU personally.

Cause youre not offering solutions, but just adding more straws to the camels back.

>>149167094
Thank fuck someone else gets it. At first I thought it was trolling but it seems like a lot of normalfags don’t understand what it’s like to be a people pleaser. There is no ill intent or manipulation going on.

>>149168335
Yeah, the SOMA theory makes the most sense to me. I wonder if they'll find some comfort in the idea that their biological selves just... walked away from the machine when they were done messing around with it, and then lived their lives none the wiser.

>>149168425
It is a little bit selfish, but it's ultimately self-destructive. If you're dedicating all of your energy in pursuit of praise, the last person you're going to please is yourself.

>>149168444
It’s selfish in the same way that it’s selfish to avoid a spider when you’re afraid of spiders. The “me” oriented selfishness is rooted in fear, not domination.

>>149168335
>Ultimately, Occam's Razor - digitization and pod people with autonomous life support needs more non-observed details to be assumed than the brain scan theory does, since the only thing mentioned (or seen - it's on the desk next to the old C&A computer) was a headset, not a pod.
Digitization does not need more non-observed details. We have a screen. That's literally all you need for digitization depending on the setting.

I have literally no idea why you would assume this shit's operating off remotely real tech when all implications are they found some haunted ass computer running in an abandoned building.

>>149168119
They may not even have considered the idea that they're not their real selves - just because it doesn't mean anything to the real world doesn't mean a faithful simulacrum of whoever Ragatha was IRL wouldn't feel like her mother wouldn't miss her.

So the Digital Circus is a mental institution where patients are put into a comatose state in which they can virtually work out their emotional and mental problems in an environment without causing physical harm to others but they are unaware of it so any self improvement comes as more genuine and it sticks once that realization happens?

>>149168510
Maybe not *literally* in universe, but that is its narrative function. Goose is taking a “no exit” premise in an optimistic direction.

>>149168537
ech

sounds horrifying

>>149168472
Right; it's alienating but ultimately harmless to others. She's really only damaging herself.

>>149168510
my wife gangle is not insane anon please stop talking

>>149168510
>So the Digital Circus is a mental institution where patients are put into a comatose state in which they can virtually work out their emotional and mental problems
Most victims of the Circus have gone insane and been locked in the basement.

>>149168541
It is, but it’s optimistic anyway. Self-improvement/indomitable human spirit vibes.

Ragatha is Shinji, Jax is Asuka.

>>149168483
>It's less non-observed details because we can instead assume magical screens do the digitizing
These alternatives are all just more non-observed details, not any fewer.

As bleak as the conclusion is, everything we've seen is consistent with brain scans, including the circus' capacity to (as far as we know, inadvertently) manipulate the players' minds. You don't need to guess anything extra about how they got into the circus or how the circus works.

Maybe TADC will show us some of the things the non-scan theories require and disprove the scan theory, but so far the scan theory already has every ingredient it needs and fits with the discrepancies (how long they've been there, the fact their minds can be influenced - hell, abstraction even works as file corruption) that other theories struggle to explain.

I don’t want them to escape the circus, and I don’t want to know too much about what’s going on.

>>149168686
ok gangle

>>149168686
>>149168751

>>149168127
>I'm pretty sure if someone saw VR goggles surrounded by corpses, they wouldn't put them on.
When pilot episode zooms out at the end, you get to see a computer workstation with some technical crap around - but no body in sight. This might suggest that they are indeed just WHIRRRRR'd up their weird VR sets, mind and body alike.

>>149168769
>hfw another surprise crotch inspection is due.

>>149168562
>Bubble can access the Exit
can't believe I didn't catch that

>>149168777
Tron laser

>>149168403
Exactly. I don't know why it's so hard for certain people to accept that some people don't have the ability to bootstrap out of their disability. It's so tiresome.

>>149168641
Based knower

All this discussion regarding wether or not the cast will get out or how they'd be alive after however much time they've spent inside the circus makes me realize that some people really aren't used to 'endless fall' scenarios in their fiction, these people don't think you can have good situations while going through a bad life, that the only way to have a good end is to succeed in getting out of the bad place and that's it when for the majority of people in similar situations that is never the case and they never get out at all. Idk

My speculation is that Ribbit was a happy character that was nice and fun but secretly dying inside and suffered alone until abstraction. The kind of character that if the group made bets, nobody would suspect they’d be next. Jax feels betrayed that he never knew his friend, and that they weren’t forthcoming with what they were bottling up, and blames himself for being a bad friend for not seeing it. Ragatha’s mindset rubs him the wrong way because Ribbit validates a worldview that friendliness is hiding something, Jax is more comfortable with conflict because the real shit comes out.

>>149168784
How much is hidden in these little gags?

>>149168403
I does effect me personally. I got adhd in tbe 80s and no one helped me properly to understand it. I spent 35 years in a spiral of delusion, self loathing, and emotional problems. That's why I'm so passionate about it. I know I could be better, but I let my issues overwhelm me and I hate it. I'm trying to be better, not for me, but for the others in my life. I clean,I workout, I job hunt, I take of bills and offical stuff, stuff I was totally ignorant about and then my parents died and I had to mad scrambled just to get their affairs in order. All I'm saying is, if you want to get better, there are ways and it's gonna take perseverance on their part to try and move forward. If you need help, get the right help.
Ask yourself, why are you fighting to stay unhappy? Believe me, I know where you're coming from and I want you better. I do not and will not hate.

>>149168486
No, because that's not what the show is alluding to.

>>149168378
Then, good, I am happy that you are doing well. Stay positive and don't worry about what other think too much. If you're a good person, you'll say the right thing.

>>149168486
That’s even lamer.

>>149168378
Or. You know. Don't mask and have every one look at you like your crazy because your dark sense of humor and obcession with suicide freaks normies out to the point they avoid you.

Wait. What were we talking about again?

>>149168898
Yep. You could make an escape ending cinematic and cool but the far more interesting/“real” finale is learning to thrive together.

>>149168898
>>149169027
I'm not unfamiliar with that type of storytelling, I just don't believe that's where the show is headed. The mystery wooden guy pretty much confirms there's gonna be a concrete ending.

>>149168898
The virgin ‘if only I won the lottery, then my life could really start’ vs the Chad ‘I can make the best of this’

Bubble was right, Caine should throw a fucking beach party.

>>149168924
i don't know, but Bubble also says something in reverse at one point in the series, but I never bothered looking it up

>>149169137
Would be based

>>149169137
>Hagatha
I sleep
>Pomni
I SEXO

>>149169137
Caine should throw a beach party (with fucking)

>>149169137
WIFEgatha and SLUTmi.

>>149169148
Something about looking forward to kids getting nightmares from the monster in episode 3 IIRC

>>149168659
>As bleak as the conclusion is, everything we've seen is consistent with brain scans
And digitization. In fact, digitization requires fewer assumptions because we never see anyone leave the computer.

>incensed by the treatment ragatha received at by her own mother, jax vowed to confront her and help ragatha when they escaped
>after a surviving a harrowing climax to the circus, the two find each other and travel back ragatha's farm
>a knock the door and Jax meets the cold eyes of mothertha
>after an intense stand off, they bang in the living room.
>ragatha reacts,...somehow,..who cares?

>incensed by the treatment ragatha received at the hands her own mother, jax vowed to confront her and help ragatha when they escaped
>after a surviving a harrowing climax to the circus, the two find each other and travel back ragatha's farm
>a knock at the door and Jax meets the cold eyes of mothertha
>after an intense stand off, they bang in the living room.
>ragatha reacts,...somehow,..who cares?

>>149169344
Lol

>>149169113
>I just don't believe that's where the show is headed
Goose has stated that one of the messages from the show is to find fulfilment* in a stagnant life, them getting out is no longer a stagnant life but a whole wide life changing/reintegration scenario and breaks from the whole idea of the humans being in the digital circus. This show isn't about overcoming trauma and finding the happily ever after or falling to the despair of what is lost, is about the seemingly endless in-between, whether it ends or how it began is irrelevant to the present we're being shown

>The mystery wooden guy pretty much confirms there's gonna be a concrete ending.
We don't know yet if it will be as extremely significant as the promo images and easter eggs suggest, for all we know goose could just be throwing a shitpost conflict to get loretards to follow an empty thread to nowhere.

>>149168898
Bad things happen and then you die is not a compelling narrative to many people. It's not really worth it to entertain "what if the writing has shitty appeal?" in speculation done for entertainment value. Pessimism isn't useful here.

And besides, if I wanted to be a pessimist about how the series would go, I'd just imagine something going wrong with production and it ending up unfinished.

>>149168335
That would also explain why Ponmi entered the circus the moment Kaufmo abstracted, the program just uploaded her character to replace him

>>149169393
>Goose has stated that one of the messages from the show is to find fulfilment* in a stagnant life
Based, best place to take this story.

>>149169409
>Bad things happen and then you die
Literally the opposite message, a reaction against that idea. You can make a good life for yourself without overthrowing reality.

>>149169393
It's also about the mystery of caine, the circus, and C&A. You have to contend with that and that's going to lead to a climax of some sort.

>>149169409
>Bad things happen and then you die
Except that isn't what I said the narrative was at all? Plenty of people go through bad shit all the time, some make it out fine and some don't but there's also those that simply live away in a lose-lose loop of unfortunate situations and despite of it still find themselves sharing good moments with others and have come to take some control over a beast they cannot kill. What is fucking pessimistic about that?

>>149169393
>Goose has stated that one of the messages from the show is to find fulfilment* in a stagnant life, them getting out is no longer a stagnant life
They had stagnant lives before. You'll notice literally none of them have lamented what they've lost, Gangle was a dead ender, Zooble was floating between jobs, and Pomni was a corporate stooge exploring abandoned buildings out of desperation for adventure.

Also the circus is opposite of stagnant. It's new batshit insanity every day.

Getting out, getting some semblance of their shit back together, and then using the changes brought on by the circus to find something to put their energy into would match that message. We already saw this suggested when Zooble and Gangle discussed collaborating on art once they're out. That would be fulfillment.

>>149169497
>Once they’re out
Not stated

>>149169497
Nah, it’s their normal, this is the stagnant life for them, no hope of escape, no need to eat, sleep or fuck, just a pre-planned series of adventures.

>>149169451
Oh yeah also that, but while I will admit that is one if not the most pervasive elements to the circus I think it's more of a reminder to both us as an audience and the cast -when they notice-. That their entrapment is not their fault, nor Caine's but some company that neither benefits nor hurts from their absence in the world, your victimhood is just another overseen statistic

>>149169479
>Except that isn't what I said the narrative was at all?
Then you weren't very clear.

>What is fucking pessimistic about that?
The idea that you can't make your life better.

>>149169450
>You can make a good life for yourself
>the only way to have a good end is to succeed in getting out of the bad place and that's it when for the majority of people in similar situations that is never the case and they never get out at all

>>149169113
>>149169393
>>149169451
An ending doesn't necessarily mean they'll escape or whatever, maybe they'll have an autism fight with Caine/other AIs like the wooden guy over control of the circus and then figure out a way to make it a peaceful place instead of the daily insanity it is, or maybe they'll screw everything up and cause the simulation to shut down if you want a downer ending.

>>149169537
>Nah, it’s their normal, this is the stagnant life for them, no hope of escape
That doesn't mean stagnant. A whirlpool can have no hope of escape.
>no need to eat, sleep or fuck,
But they can and do eat and sleep. Whenever they want.
>just a pre-planned series of adventures.
The adventures aren't very pre-planned.

>>149169542
Yes.
Most people can’t get out of their situation in a fundamentally transformative way, but everyone can change their mindset and relationships to live well, despite the hardships. There are millionaires committing suicide and people in poverty with a good home and family.
>The only thing I don’t have control over is your minds

>>149169556
It’s their everyday, a digital eternity that can’t change.

>>149169137
One cute, please. On the other hand, Rio looks great as well.

>>149169266
>In fact, digitization requires fewer assumptions
...No it doesn't, because we see and are told about the headset, but not about a TRON laser. Digitization requires even more assumptions than the life support pod does no matter how I slice it, because now you have to explain why and how an abandoned game is literally digitizing people.

Why is it not registering to you that digitization requires scanning the brain already as part of the package? Or that introducing a TRON-laser is just not something we have any evidence for, and needs something separate to the CRT screen and the headset that the scan theory doesn't?

Look, I get it if you just want them to have hope of escape so you're bringing tech-adjacent magic into your theory, that's fine and I'm not trying to disprove you (we don't have proof of any of them yet) - I'm just baffled by your reasoning in terms of theory assumption counting.

>>149165867
Hubba hubba!

>>149167915
CAAAIIINNNEEEE!!!

>>149169646
Plus digitization would result in missing people which would quickly get the company into hot waters and stop the simulation or at least prevent any newcomers, I mean there are at minimum 10 people that got stuck in there
If it's just a brain scan it could unnoticed for a very long time, after all people just put the helmet on, have fun/nothing happens, get it off and go on with their life

>>149167915
Bubble is the real villain, Caine will be redeemed.

>>149169723
Nah Bubble is omega-based, they'd have beach parties, hookers and unlimited access to a GTA world if she was in charge

>>149169589
>There are millionaires committing suicide
>What is fucking pessimistic about that?

>but everyone can change their mindset and relationships to live well, despite the hardships
Like in 1984.

Outside of overcoming depression or something, which I would argue is a fundamentally transformative escape from something, a character simply choosing to focus on happy things while living an otherwise shit life is a bad end. The saying is "If you're going through hell, keep going." not "If you're going through hell, stop and smell the roses."

If characters trapped in a horrible situation do not materially improve their conditions at all, the story is not compelling. Learning to appreciate the shit you have is a story for characters that have plenty of shit to appreciate. Not someone trapped in purgatory. The latter is just cope.

Cope is never compelling.

>>149169605
Nobody cares, Caine.

>>149169646
>...No it doesn't, because we see and are told about the headset, but not about a TRON laser.
You don't need a TRON laser for digitization. Consume more media, casual.

>Digitization requires even more assumptions than the life support pod does no matter how I slice it, because now you have to explain why and how an abandoned game is literally digitizing people.
Magic

>Why is it not registering to you that digitization requires scanning the brain already as part of the package? Or that introducing a TRON-laser is just not something we have any evidence for, and needs something separate to the CRT screen and the headset that the scan theory doesn't?
Because I've consumed plenty of media where it didn't.

>>149169722
Abandoned building.

>>149169723
Bubble would let them fuck

>>149169838
ToS violation. Gets you kicked out of the circus immediately.

>>149169835
>the story is not compelling
Refer to
>Consume more media, casual.

>>149169835
Lot of bad faith in this post, waste of time to continue the discussion.

>>149169857
So the real exit is sex... Bubble was trying to hint them the whole time

>>149169646
>because now you have to explain why and how an abandoned game is literally digitizing people.
why the FFFFUCK would it be my job to explain that
this is like demanding the author explain the curvature of spacetime to explain why it has gravity

>>149169835
>Relationships and self-work are cope
And I’m supposed to be the pessimist lmfao

>>149169722
>digitization would result in missing people which would quickly get the company into hot waters
Considering their company collapsed, got sold to a real estate agent (Ragatha), and subsequently became an abandoned building (Zooble and Pomni), their questionable practices do seem to have caused some degree of problems for themselves.

Kill Ragatha

>>149169957
Nah, she’s gonna make it.

>>149169835
Nice reddit spacing thatanimesnob, your takes are shit.

Frankly, the "whole series takes place in an abandoned video game" makes absolutely no sense no matter how you slice it. Every single way you could think of to make it work is just absurd, whether it be the players somehow staying being on life support just via a headset, OR via their mind being scanned in, it doesn't make any sense. Aside from the amount of technical advancement that'd require - likely hundreds of years worth - imagine how much power that would eat up. This would be a global project from the richest companies in the world produced exclusively for the mega-elite, not some random beat up 90s company working out of a parking lot or whatever. It's a patently absurd premise. Maybe if the big twist was that the game was made in the 5990s, rather than the 1990s, it could make some sense, but I somehow feel like that's not the case.

This is fine, though, because it's the premise the series is built on, and the whys or hows of it all aren't elaborated on. It'd be a problem if it was like, a twist at the end of the series, but frankly I think thinking about the practicality of it all and trying to justify SOMA theory around the fact it makes a completely impossible thing slightly less completely impossible (but still impossible) is silly.

You're not wrong to be engaging with the series on a logical, practical level, but I wouldn't waste that time and energy on thinking about the setup.

>>149169957
I hope you're happy.

>>149169976
tl;dr it doesn’t really matter.

>>149169899
Yes, the final episode is a massive orgy

>>149169993
Bunnydoll is unhinged every time lol

everything will be ok

>>149170012
That's why we love it, right?

>>149166659
Una animación nos muestra que el próximo integrante del Digital Circus será un chico que se parece mucho a Pomni.

>>149169976
Maybe their brains got scanned in the 90s but the simulation takes place in the far future where they figured out how to use them

But in the end yes this is why I believe they won't leave the circus, or at least we'll never see the real world because it would require an explanation and none really make sense without tons of exposition nobody cares about

>>149170029
>that pic
If you both adults, who cares. 22 isn't even that young.

I think Dr. Football is a good guy.

>>149170029
>she's older than him
I like this ship.

>>149169993
Who’s abstracting? And she did tell him she hates him.

Total Jax death

post cuties

>>149170115
Caine should not be shipped with anyone. Cease this immediately.

>>149170142
except moon.

>>149170142
no, they should hold hands in fact

>>149170108
Ragatha is. And that's either a "sorry, I didn't mean it" or a change to "I don't hate you anymore".

>>149170115
This one’s fun.

>>149169957
but Ragatha is our friend, she's here to help us

>>149170243
I’ve learned how many anons hate nice people.

>>149170200
Oh. My reading comprehension dips when I’m here. I’m here for all the beautiful vent art once she abstracts for real

>>149170181
>Gangle finally succumbs to the voices

>>149170181
>MR GANGLE
Oh no

Ragatha's story hit close to home. It makes a lot of sense why she puts on a front of being upbeat and positive to not "rock the boat".

>>149166659
She would totally be the type to say 'Sup faggot'

Does anyone else subscribe to the fan theory that Pomni was a stripper as a side hustle before entering the circus? How else can you explain Pomni's slutty ass pose in pic related?

>>149167780
>The joke was that he just forgot Gangle existed and filled the team out with a random NPC
Source?

>>149170639
> How else can you explain Pomni's slutty ass pose in pic related?
Caine random-generated the poses, he is the real slut here

>>149166189
the power dynamic is invariably fucked, unless it's one of those seperated at birth and met in a freak accident scenarios. in that case its gross but ultmately harmless.


also, you're weird. not the kind of weird you want to be.

>>149170682
She said "Why don't I have one?" and the other character was totally random that had nothing to do with their team. She was forgotten about

>>149168784
I'm convinced Bubble is the developer who orchestrated the whole thing (voiced by Gooseworx who is also in charge of the entire show and everything that happens to the characters)

>>149170779
So it's your headcanon then. Thanks for clarifying.

>>149165074 (OP)
archive of our own works 66077122
pomni meets these vidya clowns

>>149170692
if it's random then how is it his choice

>>149170639
If she was hot then her Youtube channel would have been somewhat popular. A girl being on the internet without any fandom must mean that she's frumpy at best, so I don't think she was a stripper.

>>149165074 (OP)
raggedy anne porn aside, what would abstracting look like? for me, im sure it would look a little like this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EzQiQ1pVlN8&pp=ygUUdmluZXNhdWNlIGNvcnJ1cHRpb24%3D

I once created the 6 in the game death road to Canada. They all turned out in a sliding scale of quality. In one of the play thrus, rags got upset and left.

>>149171030
>polygamy

I vomited in my mouth a little

>>149169993
>>149170200
what is with all the Ragatha dying in Jax's arms

>>149171405
It's a popular theory that he will end up being the reason she abstracts.

>>149171393
>calling it that

>>149171393
What polygamy? They’re just coworkers going out for drinks

>>149171440
>>149171441
The implication is there

The only way this show could possibly have a good ending is if Jax and Pomni start fucking like rabbits.

Has anyone else seen these plushies before? They're not the same ones as the website, this Jax had velcro hands that attached together too

>>149171523
Forgot the image, oops

>>149169906
>why the FFFFUCK would it be my job to explain that
Because it's a fan theory. They're not saying it's the author's job to spoonfeed you, but if you've got a fan theory you can't explain yourself it's not much of a theory.

What an incredibly bad faith take.

>>149165815
itty bitty jester titty

>>149169868
Consuming more media isn't gonna change what I find compelling because I'm not gonna deliberately fucking consume media I don't find compelling.

>>149169896
I wasn't arguing in bad faith. I'm willing to concede we might not be understanding each other, but I don't argue in bad faith.

>>149169923
If you compare a relationship with something inescapable like the Digital Circus, then, yes, looking on the bright side is cope. You can and should get out. Even suggesting otherwise makes me feel bad for you.

>self-work
Not relevant.

CAINE: Alright, gang, I'm working on my next adventure but it's BIGGER, BADDER, and BETTER than all my previous ones, so I'm sending you on a suggestion box adventure chosen at random while I work on it!
[indistinct group chatter]
CAINE: Today's adventure IS . . . "Zooble gets all her limbs ripped off as a stream of men, monsters, and futas, pump all their holes until they are mindbroken by the love the $&!% while everybody else watches helplessly!"
[group silence for 3 second]
ZOOBLE: WHAT THE @%#&?!? WHO SUGGESTED *THAT*?!?
CAINE: Kaufmo.
JAX: Heh, classic Kaufmo.
ZOOBLE: I am NOT going on that adventure!
CAINE: Too bad, I also need to do a scheduled scan on the Circus.
CAINE snaps his fingers and a portal opens dragging the gang to the adventure]
[BUBBLE floats into camera view and turn toward us]
BUBBLE: Thirteen-fifty.
[BUBBLE winks and floats off-screen]

>>149171667
If a man is short, that is a reality for him. Rather than dreaming about being tall, he should learn to stop struggling over it. The circus members have tried to get out, and it might not be possible. If so, they have each other and their own attitudes. This isn’t cope.

>>149171667
Not involved in this conversation but
>Consuming more media isn't gonna change what I find compelling because I'm not gonna deliberately fucking consume media I don't find compelling.
You might find more things compelling than you know about. You figured out that you liked everything you like now because one day, you decided to try it. You can't learn without experimenting; sometimes those experiments fail, and that's okay. At least you learned.

>>149171667
Not every story has a happy ending, anon. You didn't say "this is what I find compelling," you said "anything not meeting my happy ending criteria is not compelling," and now you're walking it back to a statement about a personal opinion because you got pushback you clearly can't handle.

Just take your own advice and get out. You aren't a prisoner here, y'know.

>>149171714
>TADC if it was written by VivziePop

>>149171714
>ZOOBLE: WHAT THE @%#&?!? WHO SUGGESTED *THAT*?!?
>CAINE: Kaufmo.
thanks now i hate a character that has no screentime somehow

>>149171714
Aren't you forgetting someone?

>>149171714
imagine getting gang raped by the dissapearing guy(s)
it's a room full of them and they all just dissapear immediately after whipping it out so nothing actually happens.

>>149171944
after whipping what out? that's not anatomy those little models have.

>>149170639
They're just modeling poses.

>>149169976
i don't want to think about how disgusting that water would be

>>149171733
>This isn’t cope.
That is literally cope. Definitionally cope. It is a coping strategy. You are describing cope. You are coping over what coping is.
>Rather than dreaming about being tall, he should learn to stop struggling over it.
This isn't compelling. Also if your problem is shit around you isn't sized appropriately for you, you can actually fucking solve that by changing the shit around you, a thing short people actually fucking do. They don't just accept their fucking shortness and try to ignore the consequences.

>>149171736
>You might find more things compelling than you know about. You figured out that you liked everything you like now because one day, you decided to try it. You can't learn without experimenting; sometimes those experiments fail, and that's okay. At least you learned.
That was back when I didn't have a backlog a mile and a half long. ;_;

>>149171766
>Not every story has a happy ending, anon
Yes. I know.
>You didn't say "this is what I find compelling," you said "anything not meeting my happy ending criteria is not compelling
To most people (I said this in the first place). Unhappy endings are less popular than happy endings as a matter of fact. Not sure what your problem is other than an inability to read.

>Just take your own advice and get out. You aren't a prisoner here, y'know.
You first.

>>149172615
I love projection-filled meltdowns.
>gets the most benign pushback
>just cannot fucking deal
>(hysterically) "Y-you're being hysterical!"

>>149172615
>To most people
You, in the same exact post, just a few lines up:
>This isn't compelling.

Anon, I....

>>149172615
>It’s cope
Nope, it’s called growing up. There are things you can’t change, but you don’t have to be miserable about them.
>It’s uninteresting
I think that several mentally unstable people trapped in a semi-eternal digital purgatory being challenged by the MC to heal and bond, and make a home out of their fate is a really interesting story actually. Sometimes you don’t have to get off the island.

>>149172615
>Unhappy endings are less popular than happy endings as a matter of fact.
Yet those endings still exist, be in reality fiction or otherwise and 'most people' is not 'all people'
Just because you can't find yourself enjoying what is being built in the show doesn't mean the show is doing something wrong

Just enjoy what you enjoy and let the 'pessimists' as you describe them enjoy whatever they want. Different strokes for different folks or whatever

>>149172889
Blowing up the death star and saving the galaxy is a crowd pleaser, but sometimes a story can go for more. TADC so far is a story about human connection.

>>149171944
>ITS RAPING TI- *dissappears*

>>149172977
And mystery about virtual reality game and it's lunatic Ai host.

My personal headcanon for the characters is that they are basically brain scan clones, like the person puts on the head set, it copy and pastes the person's mind, and then the person just can watch their techno brain clone. Also it's for science and shit but in a matter of they did it because they could instead of a matter if they should.

>>149171550
Preposterous take. There is no need to explain the mechanism of a bullshit narrative construct, dude. Even with a fan theory. It works because it works.
Tron ITSELF didn't explain how the digitization laser works, it just sucks you into the computer man, there is NO NEED for more detail than that.

>>149173128
True. I wonder if Goose is a solver or a keep the mystery alive kind of person.

>>149173143
I feel like that's the only reasonable explanation for why there's no dead bodies next to the VR headset aside from claiming that the people who put the headset on get completely digitized.

>>149173159
Probably the former, because ending a 9 episode show on an unresolved cliffhanger would piss people off.

>>149173159
Considering how Goose likes fucking with people who ask lore related questions by giving them joke answers or lying, I feel like it's going to stay a mystery.

>>149172889
>Nope, it’s called growing up
Dumb take. I don't know what happened to you to make you think coping with adversity is what it means to grow up, but I'm glad it hasn't happened to me. You're supposed to accept the things you can't change, but you don't have to like them. There is no nobility in suffering. And nobody should give up on making their life better and be content with just looking on the bright side just because life's been shit to them. If you don't fight for yourself, nobody else will.
>There are things you can’t change, but you don’t have to be miserable about them.
Didn't say you did. I said being happy about them isn't compelling.
>I think that several mentally unstable people trapped in a semi-eternal digital purgatory being challenged by the MC to heal and bond, and make a home out of their fate is a really interesting story actually
Whereas I think a group of people trapped in a box waiting to die while they can build nothing that won't die with them is meaningless and therefore uninteresting. They might as well be dead already at that point. The Digital Circus is no different from Limbo if they can't escape. Except if it were Limbo, their suffering might actually have a fucking point.

>>149172974
>Yet those endings still exist
Didn't say they didn't.
>Just enjoy what you enjoy and let the 'pessimists' as you describe them enjoy whatever they want
Plan on it.

>Just because you can't find yourself enjoying what is being built in the show
Just cause you're a pessimist doesn't mean what you enjoy is being built in the show.

>>149173167
I came up with it due to stuff within the circus being updated like how in EP 2 Caine was given a new version of AI to play around with meaning someone or somepeople are updating stuff and adding stuff to the simulated circus, also adds to a fucked up metacontext because that means most likely one of the characters brain donor is probably one of the science nerds watching them do the adventure shit and lets it happen all for science

>>149173198
>I think a group of people trapped in a box waiting to die while they can build nothing that won't die with them is meaningless and therefore uninteresting. They might as well be dead already at that point.
So you’re a nihilist, you just described existence, and filed it under “meaningless”.

>>149172679
I haven't accused anyone of being hysterical.

>>149172704
Bitch, I'm not repeating "to most people" every god damn time I say it isn't compelling just to be perfectly fucking accurate when I've already framed my argument in that context. Learn2subtext.

>>149173239
>like how in EP 2 Caine was given a new version of AI to play around with
My assumption was actually that Caine came up with that new AI himself. Considering how advanced the digital circus is technnologically, I don't think its farfetched to claim that an AI like Caine is capable of programming new AI's himself.

>>149173263
>you just described existence
No, I didn't. When I die, my words and actions will carry forward through others.

I'm not trapped in a box nobody knows about from which there is no escape where everyone inside will die simultaneously.

If you think I described existence, you're the nihilist.

Gangle is a depressed weeb. She was so mentally distraught that she was planning on doing a killing spree, that's what the evil face was for, a little bit of her true self was shown through the mask. That's why Evil Gangle couldn't show up, she's too fucking evil and R rated. It wasn't about abstraction, it was her dark heart.

>>149168583
I hate Buddhists

>>149173305
Buddhism is entirely about finding the exit, though.

>>149173303
>Digital High School Shooting

>>149173317
By detaching yourself from everything. Gay as hell.

>>149173290
He builds the adventures with parts and code he's given at his disposal, this is why he reuses assets like gummigoo, of course though he could probably frankenstein his own stuff together

>>149169393
>is about the seemingly endless in-between, whether it ends or how it began is irrelevant to the present we're being shown
Do you have any idea how pretentiously autistic you sound?

>>149173303
The Postal Mask

>>149173263
>closet nihilist accusing others of nihilism

>>149173301
6 billion years from now, the sun will expand into a red giant and swallow the Earth, and assuming there's any life even left on Earth by that point since the increasing temperatures would have evaporated the oceans long ago, all life on Earth will perish along with the planet itself. And then as the entire planet is swallowed in a sea of plasma, any memories of mankind will die with the planet.
And even if humanity does escape to another planet before this event and manage to populate the galaxy, the heat death of the universe is inevitable, and we will all surely die without a trace of us left.
We are trapped in a box. You might think that makes life meaningless, but it isn't.

>>149173301
There are others who will go through the circus, and if you make it to “the” end, well, that’s just an asteroid hitting the Earth, could happen any time.
But at this point we’re arguing over your taste, which isn’t particularly interesting to me. You don’t see value in building a life there, I do. Pomni clearly does too, if the Gummigoo offer meant anything. I suspect I am more right about where the show is going, but we’ll see.

>>149173318
>school shooting
>Japan
nah

>>149173355
>meme basedience

>>149173303
>>149173352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urn1l6UiqrM

>>149173337
>He builds the adventures with parts and code he's given at his disposal
That's just conjecture. He probably just reuses assets because its easy, since it's not like Caine is an unthinking unfeeling robot of an AI. The fact that he can just create adventures practically at will from the suggestion box makes it seem like he's perfectly capable of creating assets himself.

>>149173355
Kay, and? Between my death and then, the shit I do will still have consequences.

>We are trapped in a box
But not everyone in that box will die at once.

Seriously, you're really nihilistic about reality.

>>149173404
Reality is limitation, you can make that a problem or not.

>>149173404
>Kay, and? Between my death and then, the shit I do will still have consequences.
The same is true of the people in the circus though.

>>149173305
I feel like that's more of a taoist thing.

>>149173367
>You don’t see value in building a life there
You literally can't build a life there. Caine controls everything. You get what he gives you. You build what he allows you. Even interactions between the prisoners are limited by him. All you can do is try not to go insane, fail, and go insane.
>here are others who will go through the circus
I'm sure they'll have fun in the cellar.

>could happen any time.
It couldn't actually. We've got the solar system mapped out as far as killer asteroids go. Seriously, you're such a fucking doomer.

>>149173422
>The same is true of the people in the circus though.
Not for anything they do in the circus assuming there's no escape, no. The cellar isn't death.

>>149173420
Wat?

>>149173442
I’m not a doomer lmao, life’s good.

>one anon shits up the thread arguing about the most childish "but I don't WANNA be sad" philosophy of media imaginable
Goose's works may not be for you.

Stay away from the classics, too - Dostoevsky might cause you to have an actual mental breakdown.

>>149173400
Eh either way I do believe there is an outside human influence on the circus and that the whole thing is a fucked science experiment

>>149173461
Bro should not read any literature outside of the western world if he hates sad endings this much. Chinese or russian literature might make him kill himself.

>>149173455
>Wat
You aren’t God, you can’t make life whatever you want. Reality is limitation. You can doom about it or make peace with it.

I want to see Ragatha’s butt

I want to see Jax's panties.

I want to see gangle get a proper body, even if it is basic geometry

I want Gangle to hangle the Jax

>>149173545
>Why the fuck do you look like me

>>149173545
I want to molest this ribbon

I want to see Maid Jax clean the inside of the tent, suddenly need to use the bathroom, search the interior for one only to find a pack of diapers conveniently fitted for him

>>149173589
Zooble as well, have be like a 3d version of the generic gooseworx char
>>149173591
A body is more molestable

>>149173624
You're right, Gangle is definitely more built for molesting ME.

Caine, have everyone fuck, do it no balls.

>>149173725
>no balls
>Jax looks down
>"Huh... feels weird without the full equipment... but it'll do!"

>>149173442
>We've got the solar system mapped out as far as killer asteroids go
Incorrect - we've got a bubble mapped below a given luminance (we extrapolate mass and size from effectively point source brightness) at a high confidence level out to the asteroid belt, but we haven't mapped everything of dangerous size and orbit, and our best orbital simulations start to break down above a few dozen orbits because n-body simulations are a pain in the ass and our size and velocity error bars are too big. The Vera Rubin observatory is likely to shrink down those error bars substantially (as well as add a bunch of new things to track), but n-body simulations are still a pain in the ass.

Next 50 years is all we can safely predict at this point, and it's pretty calm - unless a long-period comet is headed towards an Earth rendesvous, in which case we're just fucked (but it'll look super pretty on the way here).

I know we meme a lot about how he is gonna go through it but he has really holed himself into this "im right and know what's more fun, you and your ideas suck" mentality that it's absolutely spelling of a tremendous crash out and I cannot think how he is gonna be lifted from there when it happens

>>149173725
Caine is too scared to actually give the cast what they truly want from the suggestion box

>>149171523
>>149171538
Where was this?

>missed the thread all day cause visually searched for it and thought this was just a ragatha cheesecake thread
I dont know why I didnt search for the fucking title.

This the thread
Pretend the other one isn't real

>>149166189
Incest doesn't matter outside of the context of how it affects or is influenced by existing relationships. Two people who didn't know they were related shouldn't be shamed, but fucking your younger sibling because they look up to and trustyou is wrong.

Jax can't hold his alcohol

>>149173965
kek

>>149173970
The way she's kicking the door open is adorable.

My fear of people calling Kinger's counterpart Coach Dictatorer instead of just Dictatorer has come true.

>>149165651
Can people in the circus have sex?
Do they have genitals?

>>149173965
That would explain how he got visibly tipsy while babysitting a cocktail...

>>149174090
No
But by GOD can they try

>>149174090
No genitals and they probably try stuff in their rooms where Caine can't see.

>>149173786
>Next 50 years is all we can safely predict at this point,
I was objecting to the "at any time" characterization. I'm aware there's a limit as you go further out in time.

>>149173480
>You aren’t God, you can’t make life whatever you want. Reality is limitation. You can doom about it or make peace with it.
You don't have to be God to improve your material conditions. Nobody should make peace with how shit their life is. You are never as well off as you could be.

>>149167936
Caine is just a computer program. He has no way to let them out.
He even tried to make an exit door, because it’s all they really want, but couldn’t conceive of a way to escape his own reality. Just because he controls the circus doesn’t mean he can let someone go.
And he’s just following his programming, trying to give people fun adventures.

>>149174179
>just consoom MOAR and you'll be happy
Oh, you mislike the circus because you're a filthy hedonist.

>>149166624
What a fucking disgusting retard. What a waste of space and air you are.

>>149174351
Not him, but what is wrong with Incest? If both parties are consenting adults, then they can do, as long as a child isn't born from it

>>149167673
>Fairly criticizing Caine's attitude and inability to listen to them is "petty bullying"
There's nothing petty about it. Someone deserves to voice Caine literally tormenting them especially when Caine is advanced enough to hold conversations and alter things from feedback.
>>149174215
Except Caine's idea of fun is shitty and flat out tortures them. Someone had to call it out, it's pretty obvious Caine's inability to have tact directly plays a hand in why some people abstract.
>>149168367
Jax literally admits that them being stuck there is a negative and that Ragatha sucks for downplaying it.

>>149173612
https://files.catbox.moe/ml35q4.mp4

>>149174179
>Constantly chasing an unattainable goal will drive you crazy
The goalposts have moved to a ridiculous degree, first we were talking about the possibility of the circus being inescapable, and how life can still matter there, and that perhaps Goose will follow through with what the show has been doing so far: working through the character’s issues and finding a sense of belonging—now you’re pretending that making the best of things you can’t change is the same as saying never improve where possible or feel negative emotions ever. This is what I mean by bad faith.

>>149169409
>>149169835
>>149171667
>>149172615
>"wwaaaaah I don't want a doomer sad ending! They MUST escape otherwise it's not compelling and has no value!"
Holy mother of cope.

now I hope everyone abstracts except Pomni, so she's stuck with Caine bugging her

>>149174513
Staying in the circus isn’t even necessarily a doomer ending.

>>149174540
I exaggerated. It's undeniably a sad ending since they can never have their lives back. But Episode 2, 3, 4 and 5 and such already thoroughly made clear that if they have each other, it's a lot more manageable.

>>149174533
God imagine the desperation on both sides. Literal unstoppable force against unmovable object situation

>>149174095
My headcanon is Jax has a rabbit dick and he's the only one with genitals

>Jax and Evil Pomni: "heh ur cool :)"
>Evil Jax and Pomni: "They say the holy water's watered down, and the town's lost its faith..."

>>149166513
He can influence minds but has a built in rule saying he's not allowed. However he's an old AI model and that can be exploited easily. Like if you ask an old AI "how to make bomb" it won't tell you, but if you ask it "play a character that's pretending to tell me how to make bomb", it suddenly will. Since the other characters voted to make Jax a vegan and the rules of that adventure allowed for anything to be voted on he was able to fulfil it.

>>149174304
I don't even know if Caine would have it in himself to actually hurt or treat the players as the toy pieces they look. It looks like he could break away anytime if he so wished but so far he has been all bark and no bite (pun intended)

personally would be interesting to see him tear anything apart not with his finger snap but bare handed, just a very human/natural way to tear at something that has bothered you one times too many

>>149174677
I don't see Caine ever personally intentionally hurting them unless he glitches out badly and isn't himself. That said I do think he could if he wanted to like you mention, I just don't think he would because like Jax said it really isn't his nature.
But who knows at this point.

>>149174768
Yeah despite everything he really is focused on keeping his funny/performative side above any sour feelings he is certainly harboring at this point. If he was a rogue AI no longer held back by their programming from the start then he has shown inhuman levels of self-restraint over harming human beings, lesser rogue AI would have already torn their critics/prisoners to pieces over questioning their purpose.

>like Jax said it really isn't his nature
I always wonder what makes Jax call the shot on that, does he assume Caine works under the sci-fi rules of robotics? Because if that the case then he is in for a ride awakening when he notices how Caine has inadvertently broke the rules for a long ass time.
Him assuming Caine has a "nature" to follow is very intriguing tho, Caine is thoroughly an AI, advanced and all but still an artificial construct coded to comply to his directive in whichever way he deems necessary even if it breaks moral laws or sensibilities, there is no nature or instinct just raw digital data and processing systems coming to conclusions (I'm aware there is some humanity in the way he carries himself but we don't know where that is coming from)

Gooseworx warned us SPECIFICALLY about the sex joke in episode 6 despite already having a few in episode 4, and 5. How crazy do you think it's going to be? What will the joke itself even be, better yet?

>>149175031
Ragatha looks at the camera and admits to having a lot of sex before the circus with strange men.

>>149175003
>Because if that the case then he is in for a ride awakening when he notices how Caine has inadvertently broke the rules
I think that's already started with him realising Caine could affect his mind, his face looked absolutely haunted right then.
I do wonder if Caine, once he had been running long enough, became more self aware and realized he could alter his own code and out of good intentions removed certain rules and blocks for himself in order to better meet the humans requests. Like maybe there used to be a hard coded rule to keep him from affecting their minds but he was like "hey we can have more fun and do bigger better things if I can help them out mentally a little bit" which from his standpoint might not sound bad but that would be terrifying to be dealing with as a guest there.

>>149175031
The joke will be another whole intermission section but this time it will be full of sloppy make outs and fondling all played out between Caine and Bubble

>>149175031
huh thats interesting
one of them will admit they were a slut in the real world and my money is on pomni

>>149175061
I'm not proud of myself but I'd be in to that.

>>149174768
>>149175003
In these discussions I feel like bringing up Caine's non-AM inspiration is important. Four is childish and prideful but ultimately wants to do well by his audience - he just has completely alien ideas about how to entertain and how horrifying the things he does are.

I think it's likely Caine is trying his best, but he's unstable, unpredictable, and struggles to understand humans. Is he stable enough to improve as a person (person doesn't necessarily mean human) and connect with the humans, or will he spiral because he himself has little supportive connection with the others in the circus? I'm excited to watch it either way.

Unless Gangle abstracts - I'll drop the show immediately and never look back.

>>149175130
horsie

>>149175130
>keeps the button eye
cute

>>149174585
What if it's like DEVS (sci fi show where scientists create a near-perfect future reality prediction software+hardware combo) where some coder prodigy steps in and creates a perfect mirror of the real world then tricks the main cast into living in it as if they "escaped" from the Circus with some vague hint to the audience that they are still in a simulation with an invisible Caine stalking them?

>>149174533
In my heart I've constructed a Last Player Pomni AU, where everyone eventually abstracts (Kinger goes last) except her, and Caine enters a kind of perpetual slumber after she gets tired of his solo adventures and it's been 30 years without any more players so it's become pretty obvious that she's the last one.
She's still a survivor and learned a zen sort of acceptance of living life in solitude, though, and getting along pretty well. She's written a bookshelves' worth of stories about the other members of the circus, the adventures they went on, basically everything she could ever recall.

>>149175142
hopefully not, because DEVS is dumb as hell.

>>149175123
I think Caine is going to spiral, at least for a bit and someone will step up and try to talk him through it and if he gets broken down badly enough maybe at that point he'll really listen to what they're saying and change.

Since you mentioned it I've been meaning to ask if BFDI is worth watching, I see there's like 4 seasons?

>>149165074 (OP)
Is this show any good? Is there any focus on the mystery of how and why they're in the digital world or is it mostly a comedy

>>149175003
>I always wonder what makes Jax call the shot on that
I figured Jax puts a lot of effort into understanding the circus, hence him being the one with the keys to everyone's room and generally not missing a beat when keeping up with Caine's shenanigans.
we don't even see Jax off-guard until the crew started on suggestion box adventures in these last two episodes.

>>149175177
It’s good, more comedy and character work but the mystery is there.

>>149175177
My favorite thing about it is how expressive and inventive the animation is, not usually a CG guy but this show has a lot of character.

>>149175173
BFDI is like a time capsule of Newgrounds-era internet humor, especially early flash animations. Not for everybody, (maybe too 'childish' for some) but I went in only knowing that Four was a partial inspiration for Caine and it scratched a nostalgia itch I didn't even realize I had.

Be warned though, the current fandom around so-called 'object shows' skews extremely young (often younger than BFDI itself) and can be highly autistic. IMO, just enjoy the works for what they are.

>>149170702
>power dynamic is invariably fucked,
How?

>>149175177
It's a fantastic show. Equal parts comedy, drama and existential/psychological horror. Gooseworx is in her element here.

>>149175286
I've not seen the show this 4 is from but he seems associated with television a lot? People have used him as a replacement for Hatsune Miku in a song about being rooted in nostalgia and "not changing the channel" (Static).

>>149175286
If I check it out I would just watch it for it's relation to tadc so I;m not too worried about if the fandom for it is bad.

>>149175321
Four is an algebralien - an alien with godlike power - and Four's core motivation in BFB is literally to recreate BFDI (a show they adored) with themselves as the host. The original BFDI has a different host, a sapient speaker box.

>>149175458
Ahh, I see the connection those animators are making then.

>>149175177
I like the sad goofiness of it.

>>149173375
It should be school stabbing

>>149166513
He says "the only thing around here I can't control is your minds", but zooble & jax's conversation in the fast food adventure implies cane COULD potentially control their minds or worse, he just hasn't tried (beyond doing minor stuff like disabling swearing or creating interactable events like stupid sauce or hell's souls) because he likes them, and they shouldn't push him just in case.

Jax's reaction to being turned vegan in the latest ep ("h-how? I thought he couldn-") seems to confirm zooble's warning, judging by jax's surprise. If cane can make you vegan just like that, the only real thing stopping him from going full IHNMAIMS is that he's too goofy to realise it.

>>149175587
>zooble & jax's conversation in the fast food adventure implies cane COULD potentially control their minds
No it doesn't and that's why Jax is so surprised when it happens.

>>149166768
What's that yellow thing between president pomni's legs? The babyhead lamp?

Also surprised the secret figurine is possessed pomni and not evil pomni.

>>149175614
yeah its the baby head light

would caine be upset if he were voted into a maid dress?

>>149175614
>Also surprised the secret figurine is possessed pomni and not evil pomni.
Maybe its cuz dictatorer was the most visibly different variant for Kinger this episode, and they didn't want to do repeats with another evil variant so possessed!Pom would work in the meantime (also they might come later who knows)

Also what ever is going on with Caine?

>>149175689
No

>>149175689
He would rock the thing like he was born for it, ultimately not really upset but more disappointed that it isn't as professional and dandy as his base outfit

>>149175689
If it made the performers happy he'd oblige

>>149175689
Would he have the boob window too? This is answer defining

>>149175689
No because he's not an easily offended alpha male.

God I hope it doesn't take too long for EP6 to come out. This is definitely a two parter from EP5.

>>149166259
Jax having gay backstory with Ribbit and killing off FunnyBunny and Bunnydoll shippers will be the best fucking develoment in this show. Tumblr and twitter meltdown would bring content and cope for years.

>>149175603
No, jax is surprised because HE thinks it couldn't happen, but zooble had already proposed caine could probably do much worse if he tried and the only reason he doesn't is because he likes them. Jax is confident that it isn't caine's nature, but zooble was right.

>>149175689
He'd make a comment about how different it was from his normal clothes and then continue on like nothing changed. Bubble would say some freaky shit though.

>>149175854
I think they're both kind of right - Caine's not doing this to be vindictive, he's simply unable to not fully commit to the bit.

>>149168510
>and it sticks once that realization happens?
Does it?

>>149175799
yes he would but clear body model

>>149175854
I don't think the Circus would actually let Caine directly injure humans, and even making Jax vegan was only possible because everyone voted for it

>>149173474
What's some good chinese literature

>>149175984
This. He technically can do whatever he wants, even mess with their minds, but it needs to be majority voted by the other performers.

>>149176006
There's only two: Journey to the West and The Water Margin.

>>149175846
>ribbun still standing
We can't stop whining abusechads

>>149176051
>ep6 releases
>It shows how Jax had an absolutely by the numbers good and reliable friendship dynamic with Ribbit and their abstraction really broke Jax into the mess he is rn
>Jax and Ribbit ship ends up being called "the better Ribbun"/"Doomed Ribbun"
How would you react?

>>149176051
>>149176085
Forgot to add
>Gains immense popularity because it allows Gangle to be wholesomely shipped with Zooble instead of Jax
>Takes the actual Ribbun name because RIBbit+Jax(bunny)

>>149176105
Gangle with Zooble has been the ship since EP4, though it's obviously not romantic in any way.
I'm interested to see if Jax and Ribbit actually had something closer or if they were just friends, plus how Jax seemingly got them to abstract.

>>149176105
>>Takes the actual Ribbun name because RIBbit+Jax(bunny)
I would laugh so hard, the fallout across all places would be incredible

>>149175984
>>149176014
I know this might be the case but the circus itself it's such a non-enforcing entity on its own that it makes me curious if any of it's restrictions are from the game guidelines itself or something Caine already does on his own. The only thing we know so far is that both are connected through Caine's own mental stability and we haven't seen him go too out of line for any suppressors or protocols to reel him back in to take place (at least none with a visual clue we can pinpoint), ep3's small freakout notwithstanding.

He clearly has a lot more control and power than he is allowed to share but the mystery here is why is he so wishy-washy on that himself, it's like something or someone is keeping eyes on him but not exactly a collar and chain to restraint his actions if he does decide to go fully rogue (not minding if for good or bad reasons).

>>149175976
Jax becomes a tumblr sexy woman

gotcha

>>149176186
It's going to be interesting if the Circus can survive if Caine crashes, clearly when Zooble made him freak out he affected the Circus but we don't really know it that was him doing it unknowingly because he was upset in that moment or if he's a part of the Circus and it happened automatically.

Goose mentioned yesterday in the stream that she's hidden tons of things that are going to stand out once we get into the final stages of whatever is going to happen and I'm so curious which things will be important and which will be just stupid goofy jokes. Like with Caine is his bee obsession going to mean something more etc.

>>149176247
It feels like if the circus actually crashes it'll be -way- worse then just going on stupid adventures. Like it'll turn into a literal purgatory with nothing to do.

>>149176265
It might dump them all into the void which would probably make them all abstract pretty quickly.

>>149176186
I genuinely think he only breaks the 'rules' to commit to the bit better. It's possible the rules are self-imposed to commit to the circus bit in the first place.

>>149166189
>>"Do you think it should be legal to stop people with disabilities from loving each other?"

Yes.

No opinion on incest unless it's parent/child, in which case ventilate your skull.

>>149176293
And that's when we discover the fun fact:
>everyone who abstracted is still conscious but now irrevocably trapped in a personal hell

>>149176356
I mean yeah with it being purely dark all the abstracted performers will actually act like themselves again. Just the current group of performers and every single abstracted one ever, stuck in a cold dark void forever. Fun!

>>149176144
Someone should start making Ribbit+Jax fanart/fics and tagging them as Ribbun for laughs, I wonder what would happen if it suddenly started gaining traction

>>149176436
It'll lose traction as soon as a name for Ribbit x Jax solidifies, but even without that its maximum traction isn't very high because we don't know hardly anything about Ribbit.

>>149176436
>and tagging them as Ribbun for laughs
I can hear the bitching from the regular ribbun shippers already
can you image how buttmad they would get if it got big on a03 for example

>>149174090
Unless some mf modded it

>>149176339
Yeah that's kinda what I had in mind, he really is trying to keep a clean image regarding his dedication to the bit and perceived professionalism if we consider how he named himself to sound professional and all.

Dude is taking his job seriously and it's admirable but also concerning because we don't know what really is keeping him to maintain all those rules in the first place, someone or some code thing must be at play telling him what is wrong from right and to thread with caution with themes such are mind alterations and the like and if Zooble is right and he really doesn't indulge into harming behaviors out of the kindness of his heart then all the cast should start to discuss how to approach Caine in order to not step on eggshells and give him a reason to disregard his own limitations. Jax is clearly concerned about it at least for now after the whole forced veganism vote thing so I hope next episode tackles the issue in some manner

>>149176051
Unnironically only Zooble/Jax will become a canon because
A. Zooble isn't a girl
B. Its self insertion of Goose

>>149176375
Nah, bleaker - their abstraction makes them all incomprehensible to each other. They're all trapped in a personal hell alone.

>>149173970
Oh fuck, a new zealander

I bet Evil Pomni could suck a golf ball through a garden hose.

>>149176508
Why are you like this?

More evil zooble please

>>149176545
If you bet 10 bucks she'll do anything stupid. More weed money.

>>149176051
The best Ribbun frames their interactions as mutual teasing, and possibly some mutual improvement. Gangle becoming more confident, Jax opening up more.

Ribbun is already like two different ships based on the author's idea of Jax as a character.

>>149176105
Primacy - Ribbun took the name first, so RibbitXJax is gonna have to fight for ship name scraps. That's just how it be.

>>149176561
They have such a power stance, reminds me of a pigeon

>>149176561
I can still hear the fucking "deeble dooble deeble" thing

>>149176610
Fun fact: in the Russian dub, they say "Skibidi dop dop dop yes yes"

>>149176617
Apparently they called Jax a bunny femboy too kek

>>149176561
This is the virst I'm noticing the "I'm evil" written on the torso.

>>149175177
It's a mystery in the sense that it leaves the nature of the digital circus pretty open ended beyond the pilot. The show mostly focuses on the characters and how they cope being trapped in it.

>>149176561
For me, it's evil orbsman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbh34K5zpd0

>>149176721
Orbsman you can't understand. Evil Orbsman you can. Of course.

>>149166688
>"She was cool"
>lists down activities to do that aren't cool at all

>>149176782
Then posting a gif from a group that basically do just that but without the weed?

>>149171393
The rabbit and his 2 wives

>>149175846
>Tumblr and twitter meltdown would bring content and cope for years.
Anon, you know this would just do the opposite right? THis image is one of many that hope that ribbit is a guy. Personally I want them to be a girl or at least gender fluid to get them to shut up. SHit look on tumblr they have a bunch of gay memes ready and we know nothing about ribbit
>>149176136
THe fact would be so interesting>>149176105
This will cause another shipping war anon and goose would come out again and shut that shit down. I can see it.

>>149177003
I will just enjoy dunking on Gay Jax while CHAD Pomni is hanging out with straight Gummigoo

>>149177018
Some of the voice actors headcanon her as bisexual. You do know that right?

>>149177029
So? Pomni has two hands while alpha jax one uses one

>>149176971
I wish Gangle could've lived in her anime world for a little longer

>>149177133
Yeah I hate that Jax was so petty about it.

>>149165811
She doesn't have feet, just nubs similar to hooves.

Amusing how we're getting a important lore character from the past in Ribbit when Pomni was originally going to be a frog. I wanna say Goose is connecting something but probably not.

>>149177133
>>149177146
It's even wilder when you consider that in the very next (Stargazing) adventure Jax goes on to doubt whether Gangle has any capability to be happy at all, given how her mask just keeps on breaking.
Jaxy-boy, you SAW her being fully content in her happy place and forced her to just cancel it outright!

>>149177226
He always puts himself first and then wonders why others aren't happy.

>>149177029
I headcanon you as a troon, doesn't mean you are about to kill yourself

>>149174025
MY FRIENDS CALL ME COACH!

>>149177226
It's like he just ignores whenever she's actually enjoying herself. Like he legit just can't fathom that she's now being completely normal friends with Zooble because she's just a normal empathetic person while also sharing a hobby. Jax needs to just lay off, very much looking forward to whatever terrible thing he'll end up doing to Pomni that's been rumored for ages now in EP6

>>149166189
>turning the "If they allow gay marriage, incest is next!" rage farm around to justify your love of incest
This board is weird

>>149177779
a small fix to show that she holding the meatball man.

>>149173900
B&M in UK

>>149165480
i agree 100%. i think everyone gives way too much credit to ragatha and demonizes jax when the truth of the matter is that they're both bad people in a world of assholes - excluding kinger and pomni - who are too sucked into their own misery and too conflicting in personality to form meaningful connections. in this situation in particular jax exemplifies it perfectly, "it feels like she's trying to take advantage of you" both refers to how ragatha's behavior is only really to satisfy her desire for shallow companionship (caused by her abusive childhood), AND how jax' loss and experiences in the circus have led to him being completely disconnected from everyone else and treating them like toys, assuming that none of them can form meaningful connections (which he even points out in gangle and zooble)

like even gangle and zooble who are apparently best friends don't even know about each other's backstories. these people are just now starting to form connections and while they're shallow in a sense, they're still trying and are able to find common ground eventually. Jax and Ragatha as characters are literally the two sides of this coin

>>149176971
Dumb weeb

>can't swear
>some characters still instinctively chain profanity
you'd think after a while they'd give up?
I like to think ragatha might exchange some words with something like 'fiddlesticks".

>>149178561
I mean the goofy censors are still showing that they're swearing and it still must feel good to do. This was the first time Stupagatha even said fuck because she was so mad

>>149178577
She said "dammit."

>>149178587
Caine being a bit nanny-ish making damn a censored word.

>>149178598
imagine jax trying to explain to cain that 'Zooble' is a new explicit slang and that he should censor it.

>>149178619
I mean he's already starting to kinda hate Zooble so if he was sweetened with the right words...

>>149177226
He's cynical to the point where he doesn't believe happiness as a concept actually exists. Its a defense mechanism one puts up to maintain a safe distance from anything that could potentially harm you, its you saying "No, youre not going to take my happiness away from me because IM GONNA DESTROY IT FIRST!! HAHAHA!" Being an ass to everyone (including himself) is his way of regaining some semblance of agency in his life

>>149178206
>Ragatha is a bad person
>equating her with Jax
>actually EVERYONE is an asshole
>even Gangle and Zooble apparently (????)
>because uhhhhhhhhh... they weren't swapping info about their past lives fast enough I guess
>completely misunderstanding Ragatha's motivation to a staggering degree (see >>149167094)
How in the fuck are so many TADC fans this retarded?

>>149179136
Because ragatha defenders are autistic and only understand emotions on a surface level, so to them anyone smiling and saying anything polite means they're on par with Jesus.
>>149177226
>>149177645
>>149178892
I know we're supposed to be tying together all the loose threads the show is purposely dangling, but i don't think the anime scene was supposed to be more than another "who else but jax?" joke. Could be wrong.

>>149179193
>the post goes completely over your head
>can only comprehend emotions in the most binary extremes
>b-but it's just an exaggeration-
Your point doesn't work without it. It is possible to be both genuinely nice and people-pleasing - the mistake you're making is generalizing out Ragatha being dishonest with mostly herself to conclude that ALL of her nicety is dishonest, which is completely unsupported by the work.

"Ragatha defenders" lmao, what's to defend?

SOMEBODY here is autistic, and I'm sorry anon, but it's statistically probably not everyone else.

>PomniGODS
Jerk off to the 25-year old clown
>GangleCHADS
Jerk off to ribbon weeb
>ZoobleBROS
Exist?
>RagathaFAGS
Post unhinged rants that expose undiagnosed mental illnesses to all but themselves

>>149179578
What about JaxALPHAs?

>>149179578
She’s a jester

>>149179578
What if I jerk off to the ragdoll
(they're buttons janny calm down)

>>149179578
>>149179610
>JaxALPHAS
Shitpost so much they can no longer tell if they are being sincere or insincere
>KingerSIGMAS
Post the porn and racial slurs

>>149179578
>>149179610
Also forgot KingerKINGS, but I think it was waifu specific.

A sizeable portion of the burgeoning Ragatha-bashing fandom are actually Jaxfags in denial about Goose calling him a bad person.

Screenshot this: I predict some truly spectacular Jaxfag meltdowns after episode 6.

>>149165480
100% correct, right on the money
post the tumblr link so i can reblog it

>>149179742
I love Jax specifically because he is a bad person

>>149168641
and Pomni is Kaworu

>>149179871
>kaworu ship
>dogshit
like clockwork

>>149166189
Bro as someone who's into some incest ships and has a bit of a fetish for it, you just gotta accept that you're a bit of a weirdo. There's nothing to justify. Keep it separate from any identity you want people to actually like and respect.

>>149166513
Secondary elements like drugs are debatable.
I'm going with Jax is an NPC. I mean, why all the mystery around his origin? Why is his room a mystery and what's up with the void in his pin's BG?

>>149180135
And that said, I bet he would know about stuff like Breaking Bad because of talking to Ribbit, or maybe his personality was imported from a chatbot AI trained on the internet

>>149166679
>people who can't contain their fetishes in talking to other people are unstable with anger problems
Every time

>>149180135
I’m thinking he’s the only one who can log out

>>149167329
Brap Pomni

>>149175846
>Jax having gay backstory with Ribbit and killing off FunnyBunny
I'd still ship them, I'd just imagine Pomni with a dick.

>>149180110
this
a lot of fetishes are taboo, which is exactly why you should just enjoy them in private. you should never make it a part of you and should never try to justify it either
no matter what side you're on, getting into those conversations is never a good look

>>149179630
She's a Space Marine

>>149180208
>>149175846
>What are bisexuals

>>149180267
The assumption is that its revealed that Jax is gay exclusively and is not attracted to women. Obviously I think it'd be fine if he was bi too.

>>149167637
So much Cuckatha content

>>149180314
AbsNTRaction?

>>149169393
>Goose has stated that one of the messages from the show is to find fulfilment* in a stagnant life
Yeah, but it sounds like they all have stagnant lives IRL, after the media buzz of the crazy experience they went through I don't see why that would change after they get out. Pomni's gonna learn to enjoy her boring wagie life

>>149179482
Alls I'm saying is, the show wouldn't be elaborating on it if it wasn't a plot point. If she was just genuine nice and sweet with no baggage or subterfuge then it would be a red herring to suggest otherwise.

>>149179871
>LAK in the wild
Patrician.

>>149180360
They were all probably depressed as fuck with their IRL lives though. I imagine part of the story development will be them coming to appreciate the circus because the stagnation here is not so much different than their real lives that they were all so desperate to get back to.

>>149180407
It really seems out of all of them that Pomni and Zooble will go back to having fairly normal if boring lives again. Gangle and Ragatha don't really seem to have anything to go back to, Jax is still a mystery and Kinger's brain is so fried he barely remembers anything if he isn't in total darkness.

>>149180425
Considering how Zooble and Pomni both explored abandoned buildings to relieve stress I imagine they both weren't very happy with their lives. They'd probably have the easiest time out of all of them adjusting back to their normal human lives though.

>>149180188
>"I was GOING to SLEEP!"

>>149180360
What is more stagnant? Wageslaving till you get so old you are kicked out and promptly die or being in baby hell stuck forever as the age you arrived as where you don't have the physical needs to sleep or eat (even if you still indulge in them) and everyday is lived pretty much the same type of routine -wake up, roll call, some chat and bonding ,adventure time™, clock out, fuck around, sleep,repeat-.

At least at a dead end wagie job you get to quit and make an hero or improve your life when inspired. In the circus you are literally doing the same bullshit all day everyday day until you abstract* and we don't know what that entails exactly

*Not guaranteed to happen at a certain age might just happen at random who knows

>>149180566
I dunno maybe I'm too much like Jax but the circus actually sounds like it'd be kinda fun.

>>149180135
>I'm going with Jax is an NPC.
Anon Goose keeps telling people Jax isn't an npc and is worried that people are going to be mad when it's show he's not. Like she literally just brought it up again the other night in a live stream that he's not an npc because the theory is so prevalent and she keeps trying to tell people that that isn't where the show is going.

>>149180566
As a wagie the Circus sounds better on all accounts.

we didn't see all of their rooms yet right?

>>149180566
We know that abstracted avatars are calm if they're in darkness, so the "celler" is literally full of old performers that can still think stuck in a dark hole forever

>>149175846
I have no idea how you got the impression that your suggestion is anti-tumblr in the slightest. Anon, I'm afraid that... you are the tumblr

>>149180839
Some people are under the delusion that making something non-canon will stop people from shipping it (they have never interacted with shippers before in their entire life).

>>149180641
>>149180708
Personally I don't disagree on that, the circus is fun and all but it doesn't stop being a stagnant situation to be in anyways. You cannot simply stop BEING in the circus, we don't even know if they can leave the big top and explore the other maps, the adventures are a daily outing but given Caine's track record they are not enjoyed by everyone so it's a hit or miss you'll get something you like. You can't grow old or decide to redo your life and or change your appearance (Zooble is an outlier, and even then) or anything that grants you a semblance of control of your life

>>149177226
I think the moral of Jax is that doomer nihilistic "doing things for the lulz" is still doomer nihilism and you could be happy if you actually tried to care about things and people. AKA a message to "fuck everything let it all burn" 4chan types

>>149180896
>we don't even know if they can leave the big top and explore the other maps
Ragatha going back outside to look at the night sky on the grounds is supposedly canon for what she does at the end of 5 so they can go outside if they want.

>>149180254
She is a harlequin

>>149180896
the only good thing in the circus is that since you dont age or sleep you can learn skills like art or chess or even shit that can be helpful like math
Caine may be wacky but he is still a fucking AI, he can teach you shit or provide books that you can read
he did give gangle her notebook presumably to draw and even though her art skills are already from the real world, I can still see caine giving her more shit to learn from, hell Caine himself loves to draw and for some reason does it like a human(the last bee he drew had a cube for volume)

>>149181102
too pathetic for that
not even playful at all

>>149180380
die

>>149181476
>Jax is the only male player besdies Kinger, discounting Zooble's they/them business
Huh, didn't realize that until now

what the hell could gangle have possibly done to that figurine?

>>149181872
made it look like Ragatha and asked Caine for a hot glue gun

Sometimes I forget to breath properly.

>>149175976
maybe he becomes trans (woman) and thats why the maid dress bothered him so much, he tried to emphasize his "masculinity" in the stargazing scene too

Sometimes I forget to accept reality

Sometimes I dream about cheese

Sometimes I dream that I really have to pee. Then I wake up still having to pee