>Michael Bay is officially developing a new live-action Transformers reboot at Paramount Pictures, marking his return as director after stepping away from the franchise in 2017. This reboot will be the first of several Transformers projects in the works, but Bay’s film is expected to arrive before other versions, including a separate live-action film being developed by Transformers: One director Josh Cooley.

>Bay, who helped turn the Transformers films into box office juggernauts, originally left the series after The Last Knight underperformed compared to earlier entries. However, he recently reapproached Paramount with interest in reviving the franchise and is now working with writer Jordan VanDina on the script.

>Meanwhile, the previously rumored Transformers vs. G.I. Joe crossover has been cancelled. Paramount retains the Transformers rights through 2029, as long as production on new films continues.

>>149191037 (OP)
Noooooo

>>149191037 (OP)
Yeeeees

Every Transformers movie post-Bay has failed financially. Love him or hate him, he put butts in chairs.

>>149191161
All failed at the box office because he killed the brand

>>149191165
And now he's saving it.

>>149191146
>>149191151
>beastwarsintro.mp3

>>149191037 (OP)
But will Linkin Park still get used ?
I say we replace them with Limp Bizkit and have Prime Vs Megatron set to my way.

>>149191037 (OP)
>Bay’s film is expected to arrive before other versions, including a separate live-action film being developed by Transformers: One director Josh Cooley.
Clusterfuck of a franchise.
>Meanwhile, the previously rumored Transformers vs. G.I. Joe crossover has been cancelled.
Good. Also, fuck ROTB.

>>149191556
>Autobots, transform and keep rollin' rollin' rollin'

>spend years calling Michael Bay a toxic male
>remove all trace of his influence from the movies
>no one goes to see them anymore
>now, for no reason at all, they brought him back onboard
Hmm, it's almost like people enjoy violent robot fights, trashy humor, and explosions.

>>149191556
I like the sound of nuLinkin Park
Emptiness Machine and Heavy is the Crown are cool

>>149191940
they were downward trending starting with his fifth film
negative momentum

>>149191037 (OP)
Yeah, I'm thinking we're so fucking back.

>>149191520
How is he going to do that when AoE and TLK did that in the first place? At least Bumblebee was relatively cheap to make.

All I want is less humans and more giant robots.
The opening of Bumblebee is what I crave.
Alternatively go full Trigger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoeyfTGI7ik

>>149191037 (OP)
Guess who's next to return?

>>149191037 (OP)
Mortimer W. Clankitybritches lives again.

>>149193578
Snyder is just Bay but extremely pretentious about it

>>149193156
Nostalgia for 2007 and also probably being more into it. He didn't really want to make 4 and 5 at all.

>>149193626
So why does he want to make a new one then? I find it hard to believe he had a change of heart, what's most likely is he hasn't made shit since then so he wants to go back to making shitty high budget blockbusters.

>people loose interest in transformers because of the low-effort abysmal quality of the bay films
>audience fatigue gets so high that most skip out on the higher quality/good faith non-bay stuff they’re putting out to try to rebuild the IP
>decide to double down on the shit that caused the problem in the first place just as public perception on your IP is starting to shift back to something more positive
>they want to push shit people got sick of over a decade ago onto audiences that (claim to be) done with endless remakes and sequels of declining quality
genuinely why would they do this?

>>149193787
the real answer is that Bay can't get his original projects made so he's crawling back to do sequels to his old movies. He was complaining about it a few months ago and was talking about doing an Armageddon sequel too.
https://www.indiewire.com/news/general-news/michael-bay-james-cameron-state-of-hollywood-1235102008/

>>149193787
>So why does he want to make a new one then?
I mean, money is always going to be the big motivation. But stepping aside for a few years will probably refresh him.
>>149193812
>just as public perception on your IP is starting to shift back to something more positive
ONE didn't shift public perception at all
And they're going back to Bay because they made the movie nerds bitching about Bay wanted. No humans, designs far more based on G1, Optimus doesn't even want to kill the evil dictator guy who fucked everyone's life. And guess what? Did worse than fucking TLK and ROTB despite all the reviewers wanking it off.
>>149193875
Being fair, it's not like he's the only guy who talked about how the current movie landscape is dominated by IP movies.

>>149193812
>done with endless remakes and sequels of declining quality
You know they aren't anon.

>>149193990
>>149193983
I just really can’t see people wanting to watch more bayformers when their aftertaste is the very thing that’s killed interest in the first place

>>149194112
Anon, ten years ago people would act confused if you said Star Wars would start pandering to prequel fans.

>>149193812
>>people loose interest in transformers because of the low-effort abysmal quality of the bay films
Bay arguably brought Transformers into the mainstream to begin with.

>>149193812
>>149194112
4 out of his 5 films did insanely well. That's a better track record that the non-Bay films have. Meanwhile other, bigger movie franchises have declined massively in quality and are still making money with dogshit movies, so the overall bar has been lowered since Last knight came out

>>149194208
and that's a bad thing, the franchise got too big like a small specialty store that tries to franchise out and compromises quality and fizzles out.

>>149194212
His movies did well financially, but the reason the fifth one underperformed (and all the other ones after it) was because after 4 people got tired of it. They realized it was shlock and it wasn’t gonna get better after 3 so they stopped going. This affected Bumblebee and Rise of Beasts because, even when they tried to shift from Bayverse, they were the same designs associated with that franchise he ran to the ground.
TF One failed because it had bad marketing, bad release date and came after years of the film franchise dragging its foot. It looked like toddler baby crap, and when people realized it wasn’t that, it was too late.
Bay could maybe do one movie that does better than the recent ones, but it will never reach the box office peak of the original trilogy, because people will get tired of his shtick faster than before. Especially in a market that has changed with more blockbusters to keep people’s attention.

>>149193875
He could just direct Skibidi Toilet.

>>149194610
That's a lotta cope

>>149194610
>It looked like toddler baby crap, and when people realized it wasn’t that, it was too late.
Please, don't pretend it wasn't crap. The entire plot is pure dog shit and the characters are so generic it genuinely feels put out by a committee of hollywood homunculi. It deserved to fail.

>>149194669
one was okay
not nearly as awful as the trailers would suggest but also not really the GOATED hidden gem we need to let the masses know about that a lot of TF diehards were mass tweeting about

>>149194528
You exaggerate.
Without the Bay movies, half the cartoons of the last two decades probably wouldn't have been made.

>>149194212
AoE didn't do THAT great considering the vast majority of its box office came from China and overseas which they only get a fraction of compared to domestic revenues.

>>149194669
Same with Bumblebee. It was created by a committee who asked "What do Transformers fans like" and put all that into a movie and hoped the sheep would enjoy it.

>>149196408
Bumblebee was the simplest and most straightforward movie in the entire live action franchise, everything else had convoluted bullshit.

>>149191037 (OP)
The real question is are they gonna bring HIM back?

>>149194669
It had an acceptable, short runtime, easy-to-follow action and a villain properly written to be as unlikable as intended and that's already more points in its favor than any of Bay's flicks could ever get
>B-BU-BUH-BUT-
You wouldn't rewatch any of those 5 movies if you had a gun pointed at your head because they're fucking BORING when the bots aren't around, or do you really think the "too many humans" complaint magically came out of nowhere?

>>149194669
I won’t take this slander from a Bayformers slop enjoyer.
Badassatron>enemy scrotum

its gonna go like this
>the autobots have to go to earth to find a thing that is ONLY on earth
>they find and befriend a human who also has a love interest that is constantly showing her tits and ass
>they focus more on the human stuff than the transformers
>random racial stereotypes
>leave all the fighting at the last minute
>bait sequels
>profit

>>149198283
$1.5 billion at the box office. All transformers one fags commit mass suicide

Please no Shia LeBouf please no Shia LeBouf please no Shia LeBouf.

>>149191037 (OP)
how is this going to effect the skibidi movie?

>>149194635
this

>>149197472
I'll take fratboy humor over reddit humor

>>149198283
And then someone will call it Bay kino

>>149191037 (OP)
Bay Kino is back on the menu boys

>>149199118
Badassatron is normie humor not plebbit humor.

>>149193611
Thats what makes him great.

>>149191037 (OP)
Why?

>>149201609
Same difference at this point

>>149191037 (OP)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im9Xw-z_1Cc
We're going home.

>>149191037 (OP)
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT IIIIIIIIIII'VE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE

>>149196408
Bumblebee is ok because it was just an iron giant remake

>>149201696
Does it? I'd prefer the one that's more honest about it at least.

>>149193156
AoE did over 1 billie.

>>149202311
Only like 200 of that was domestic

>>149191037 (OP)
>Transformers vs. G.I. Joe crossover has been cancelled
Of all things, a G.I Joe movie is what Michael Bay style would fits well

>>149191037 (OP)
so was the michael bay skibidi toilet film reworked to be a transformers film at the last minute?

>>149191037 (OP)
When the world needed him most.

>>149203060
He denied he was ever attached to that. In fact he said he was involved in a bunch of different movies all in different stages of development with him directing one and producing a few others and now in retrospect it's obvious he was talking about transformers.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKBC1GKybxf/?igsh=ejgzbTlwb2R5OXc4

"Before time began, there was... the Baaaaay..."

>>149191037 (OP)
>UNCLE BOBBY B BABY
>UNCLE BOBBY B

>>149191037 (OP)
they Strike another a deal with Hasbro and do a my little pony Crossover. live action mlp i wuold Watch

>>149191037 (OP)
That is just sad... Are we gonna get Shia and Fox back too?

>>149198323
honestly, hope that's what happens

We lost a Transformers One Sequel for this?

>>149204598
Shouldn't have flopped

>>149204296
Megan Fox is never coming back since she pissed the entire studio off for calling Bay Hitler.

>>149202548
Bay said in interviews he doesn't like GIJoe(can't believe either, oh well) and was against the gijoe teaser for rotb till the last minute, since they filmed 2 teasers, one for sector 7 and the other gijoe (theatrical cut).

>>149191940
Rewatched the first movie the other day. Really didn't age too well.
I guess it was fine when it was the only live action Transformers around, it's a lot like with comic book movies.

>>149194193
Star Wars isn't pandering to anyone anymore

>>149204924
Why? I think its the perfect summer blockbuster (there are a few scenes I would remove, some that are useless, like Bee pissing and Turturo underwear).

>>149198283
>ugly-ass designs

Dark of the Moon is the peak of enjoyable slop. Doesn't hold up to any scrutiny of a plot, but damn if it isn't fun to watch.

>>149204940
It takes like an hour for most of the Autobots to even show up. Bee is mostly a car for most of it.
Overall, it doesn't even focus on the Transformers much, the folks I watched with even pointed out the Decepticons don't even have real dialogue.
Personally I always hated the color filters in the movie, but now they stand out even more.
And of course, the designs were never good, downright horrible, and just slaughtering Jazz was bullshit, but that's besides the point.

There's some decent action and I chuckled a few times, but it could be shorter. Don't wanna ruin your love for the movie or anything, just saying, it was the best Bay could offer and we could get something better, if Hollywood ever decided to make good movies again.

(Also yeah, I'd definitely take out the Bumblebee pissing part)

>>149204940
Nta, but the three human subplots feel bloated. Most of the robots end up being scenery , even the Autobots , Sam and Mikaela aren’t particularly likable characters(no one is really)
It feels like Godzilla 98 or IndependenceDay where there’s too many plots going on and none are particularly likable characters.
The allspark function and what it does besides create transformers is really vague. The parameters by which the robots die is vague. You don’t need to go full lore dump, but it’d be nice to establish how these robots work.

>>149191165
>All failed at the box office
anon, did you not even do research before you make such a shitty post? The first four movies did incredible at the box office
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt0418279/?ref_=bo_se_r_1
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt1055369/?ref_=bo_se_r_8
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt1399103/?ref_=bo_se_r_9
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt2109248/?ref_=bo_se_r_7
so yeah keep on coping and seething, and try to realize how much of a failure you are for not going on the computer to do research, except on going on your social media for a day, you fucking autistic spastic

>>149191037 (OP)
Onebros, we flopped so hard the somehow bay returned....

>>149191037 (OP)
We're so back Baychads

>>149205322
onetrannies are not serious niggas. Bay made absolute kino that peaked the franchise. But since The Last Knight underperformed they try to cope about failure, Reminder that TLK still outgrossed bumble, rise of the shits and one

>>149202548
If the new Bay movie does well, we may get to see a Gi Joe vs. Transformers

>>149198283
>random racial stereotypes
Kino, I want the tfwiki nerds to seethe

I rewatched all of Bayformers recently. My impression was that they fell off towards the end because each one was pretty much the exact same as the previous. And before I did, I had thought that the later movies got better with the transformation and battle sequences (cooler, more frequent) because those highlights are what I had always remembered, but no, they didn't. They actually hid a lot of them offscreen or behind objects in the foreground. Maybe action thriller in a post-MCU world is a lot more demanding, but I was pretty tired of Bayformers by the third one. It's wearisome action with not much to offer besides that, if anything at all.

>>149205360
And each and everyone of them mog, bumblebee, rotb and one. So...

>>149205352
Don't get me wrong, One was great for sure, but Paramount was shit with taking action with the movie. They couldn't be asked to move the release date as they released it a week before DreamWorks' Wild Robot, which had better buzz for parents and children, causing the studio to barely market One, and that movie's fans are coping hard because of this. They're also coping because without Bay's movies, One would never exist (then again, without the the 80s series nor its subsequent movie from 1986, the Bay movies wouldn't exist either)

>>149194669
I think the basic nature of One is to its advantage. The whole point of it is to return to its roots and tell a classic Transformers story with sleeker production. It was genuinely fantastic if you look at it as a proper children's animated film. As for the future of the franchise, it seems like a great first step to me. A more ambitious project in the same style and philosophy could do very well.

>>149204598
It's called Transformers One because it'll never ever get a sequel

>>149204848
She came back for two of Bay's produced Ninja Turtles movies during mid-2010s after the two made up, but only the first movie did well, but the second flopped, and now Megan Fox is doing direct-to-video/streaming low-budget movies.

>>149205409

>>149204598
>Transformers One? More like Transformers None!

>>149205390
>a classic Transformers story
There's nothing classic about a bad Binder of Revelation adaptation.

>>149205382
I actually forgot about those as I was composing my post. Bumblebee and beasts stunk, and One isn't a fair comparison because they're not in the same category. It'd make more sense to compare One with the cartoon series. I don't think it's better or worse than Bayformers because they fulfill different purposes (Bayformers wasn't even meant to appeal to the existing Transformers crowd at the time, it was intended to revamp the IP to appeal to the general summer blockbuster audience, which it did)

Will this one feature the us military shooting at them despite them doing no damage?

>>149191037 (OP)
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2025-05-16/transformers-tease-new-evangelion-collaboration/.224430
don't forget that this is also coming out

>>149205443
The binder exists because no one at Hasbro bothered to make a comprehensive reference for the baseline of Transformers an a franchise before the 2000s. It’s not surprising it’d be used for reference material.

>>149205624
>comprehensive reference for the baseline
Minicons aren't baseline
The 13 aren't baseline
Devastator being made of 8 guys isn't baseline
The BOR was pure slop that wasn't even relevant to the Aligned continuity, to pretend it was either useful or necessary for the franchise at large is ridiculous.

>>149205696
Having some reference index was necessary. A line manager or show runner aren’t chosen for being existing fans.
One isn’t even using it 1:1 anyway. Minicons and the thirteen are relatively newer additions, but so were the Fortress of Solitude or a transforming Clayface at one point.

>>149205774
A reference index that makes up new references isn't a reference index. Especially when it ends up sitting in a drawer for 15 years until someone makes a movie out of it that flops.

>>149203443
and how long til Lee Goldson shoots up the theatre?

>>149204296
Shia moved on and specifically said that he never wanted to do anymore of these movies

>>149204598
blame Paramount for shitty marketing and its decision for releasing it a week before The Wild Robot

>>149197145
no

>>149191037 (OP)
og trilogy was interesting, it only had annoying ass family guy character. the parents can fucking die
the 3rd one was my favs, because the stakes were high, it all truly went to shit and there was a lot of despair. the chicago invasion scene left me spechless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuoBmuHNjYQ

>>149204598
>Marketting was absolute garbage
>Decides to release it at the same time asa Wild Robot
It was doomed to fail. You could even say it was sabotage

>>149206531
He said that before he got canceled and the movies roles stopped coming in. The transformers movies did their job for Shia, they elevated his stardom and set him on the a list. He was at a point in his career where he could pick and choose his roles as he pleased and suffer no real career set backs and he seemed to be in his indie and Oscar bait movie phase and he was starting to be taken seriously as an actor. Then he got metooed and all.that shit dried up and studios avoided him like he had the plague.

I'm sure Bay would hire him in a second if he could and Shia is probably looking for a way to revitalize his career so I don't think he'd be as opposed to it as he was a few years ago. The real problem is paramount, no way in hell would they ever risk their reviving the transformers franchise by inviting someone controversial to headline their crown jewel

>>149206836
I sure hope, because Mark Wahlberg was awful in the fourth movie

>>149206742
That's exactly what I was trying to say here

>>149204598
>surprisingly great movie in the Transformers movie series
>has a very shitty marketing
>releases one week before Wild Robot
>Paramount does nothing about it
fucking kek

>>149205322
>The first four movies did incredible at the box office
And next look up how well The Last Knight did, which was his point you fucking troglodyte. Audiences got sick of Bay and then the movies after that one got diminishing returns

>>149206949
The whole thing felt like sabotage
>Marketing was basically all the jokes front-loaded into the trailers without actually even alluding to the plot of the movie
>Bumblebee being KMK was a huge focus for the marketing
>Release date was right after The Wild Robot, one of the biggest animated movie at the time
>Celebrity cast, while spectacular, definitely inflated the budget much higher
>Came right after ROTB, which was already critically panned

>>149207074
I never mentioned the fifth movie, you literal retard. Please read my post, as I said the first four movies. First. Four. So yes, you can keep coping and seething for being a complete illiterate

>>149207046
>>149207105
The fact that Paramount took no action with it felt nothing shy of desperation

>>149207115
And you missed the whole point of the original post.

>>149205322
>>149207074
>>149207115
>>149207174

>>149207046
based buckposter

>>149206939
i unironically like Mark Wahlberg's Case Yaeger a hell of a lot more than Shia's Sam Witwicky.

>>149207323
I'd say he's better than Isabella Moner's character in the fifth movie

>>149207181
Wtf is that

I hope he gets to keep his massive tittes

>>149207508
Have you not watch Smiling Friends?

>>149207655
I like the content of this guy's videos, but his voice and humor rub me the wrong way. He does that same detached ironic humor everyone on youtube does these days.

Good movie regardless of what he says though.

>>149207698
>regardless of what he says though.
see now here's the thing

>>149207436
Well yeah, Isabella Moner's character is barely in the fifth movie. She's only in it because that movie is stitched together from like three or five ideas and one was about a girl and some transformers in the Chicago wasteland. The fifth movie is also mostly Wahlberg and a British lady

>>149207776
Bay was originally going to some type of King Arthur movie, but Paramount insisted on doing another Transformers movie, and in addition, rush the movie by hiring a dozen writers and ending up with an unfinished mess in hopes for a "shared universe," and we all knew how that turned out at the end

>>149193578
>t.sneederjeet

>>149191037 (OP)
Transformers 1 and 3 were great. If he makes more like that, I'll be satisfied.

>>149207046
>releases one week before Wild Robot
I never understood the hype behind Wild Robot

>>149207436
>>149207776
its funny how she really broke out after doing Transformers.

>>149205409
Wtf Rodimus?

>>149207604
I hope he gets to transform on screen.

I still think it’s silly how Bay with how much he loves jacking off the US Military in his movies, was put in charge of Transformers movies instead of GI Joe.

So who's hot enough for Bay to put as the new Megan Fox?

Qualifications:
15-20 (or passes for that)
Bigger breasts than what Hollywood allows (No A/B cup)
looks good with long hair
Legs
Willing to work in heels the full shoot

>>149207958
It's likely the entire reason she was in Transformers was because she was being poised to launch as a big star. The next year she was in the Sicario sequel and Dora after that(which bombed but was probably meant to be a bigger deal)

I bet "Robert Kirkman's Transformers" will somehow be more popular than "Michael Bay's Transformers".
Like, "From the man who brought to you the Walking Dead and Invincible...."

>>149193492
They aren't giant robots if there's no humans to compare them too. Just robots talking to robots if similar height

>>149204598
Sentinel ruined it by his cringe ass humor while easily shitting all over the 13 Primes. Should've just made the Quintessons the main antagonists from the start.

>>149204848
Okay but... what if she calls Trump "Hitler"?

>>149208645
Void Rivals does this really well by making a race that's human like interact with them, and it's how they have Springer and Hot Rod in particular treat them that I feel should be a default. Humans and human-like races are extremely tiny alien life forms to them.

>>149208614
I think it depends on how it's animated. Gore focused adult cartoons make it to mainstream because they're "mature" for having boobs and lots of violence. Skybound, despite its violence, is still teetering on PG-13. They would have to tip things all the way into R if they want a shot.

I think, even with its pacing, Netflix had a shot if it wasn't a PG series. The blood was minimal, the swearing was minimal, and the sex was uneeded but just seeing Elita make a move, or Megatron make a move (on either) would have shot its popularity up.

>>149208259
Merced, today.

why does starscream have a bone to pick with ironhide/demolishor
he's like the only guy who showed some concern for him in one episode

>>149207941
Surprisingly decent for a recent movie

>>149204598
I think the news just made me depressed for movies, the fucking Lilo & Stich live action sequel, Paramount having these guys make a literal shit beetle movie, and Bay returning for more slop. They're gonna fuck up the new Godzilla x Kong sequel in some compacity by making it another Kong vehicle with more boring humans.
Transformers is just cursed to not get better quality movies that isnt a tv special.

>>149191037 (OP)
reminder that it was 23 years between G1 and the first BayFormers

reminder that 23 years from the first BayFormers will be 2030

reminder that 2030 is 5 years from now

reminder that planning for Transformers 2007 began in 2003

this movie is nostalgia bait just like the first one was

only it's nostalgia bait for the kids whose first TF was BayFormers

>>149209915

>They're gonna fuck up the new Godzilla x Kong sequel in some compacity by making it another Kong vehicle with more boring humans.

Eh, depends on the villain.

>>149207604
I fucking hate this design so much. And this is coming from a bayverse fag. Why did they just decide to make almost all vehicle mode parts just magically disappear in their robot modes by the 4th film? It looks like ass.

>>149211039
This pic makes me realise that we havent seen frenzy or rumble that much in anything lately,its always laserbeak or soundwave that come with ravage

>>149211641
Maybe they think twins are outplayed. Or maybe the push back against Skids and Mudflap turned hasbro off

Who were the last identical twins in TF media?

>>149211983
Skyquake and dreadwing in prime,before that it sideswipe and sunstreaker and those two guys who combined in animated,theres like 4 or 5 tops thru the franchise

>>149212038
So 10 years and more. I remember when twins were a thing in American TV and now they hardly have relevance. I would like to see them come back

>>149211622
I like the human silhouettes. Would be a cool evolution thing like in Beast Wars for them to assimilate to wherever they are since by Knight, almost all the bots were metal giant humans. But I also like Pretenders call me biased

>>149211622
>>149212102
I get not liking Knight Optimus, but overall I like the AoE Autobots a lot. I think they, along with DOTM Dino and TF07 Jazz and Ironhide are my favorite movie designs from that era.
I get the feeling Optimus' new look was intended to be his upgrade after he got the sword on Lockdown's ship, but for whatever reason they just decided to use that look as his immediate next look after his evasion mode.
Crosshair's trenchcoat is one of my favorite parts of a movie TF design too, it reminds me of something car Robots 2001 would do(And Car Robots and Cybertron are my two favorite aesthetics for vehicleformers)

>>149211622
>>149212102
I get not liking Knight Optimus, but overall I like the AoE Autobots a lot. I think they, along with DOTM Dino and TF07 Jazz and Ironhide are my favorite movie designs from that era.
I get the feeling Optimus' new look was intended to be his upgrade after he got the sword on Lockdown's ship, but for whatever reason they just decided to use that look as his immediate next look after his evasion mode.
Crosshair's trenchcoat is one of my favorite parts of a movie TF design too, it reminds me of something car Robots 2001 would do(And Car Robots and Cybertron are my two favorite aesthetics for vehicleformers)

>>149212256
Crosshairs' Bay design was honestly one of the best versions of humanoid meeting bot.

Reminded me of Alpha Trion who wears clothes despite no one else having a concept of it. IDW sort of gave them looks that could count like Tarn's shoulder treads looking like paws of a fur cowl. Tyrest and Caminus' priest too have their own cloaks but they're additions not very much a natural occurrence of their body.

I would really like to see more bot designs like it as long as they had a purpose. Like Grimlock's shoulder face

>>149212256
If there is one thing that royally irks me about AOE and TLK, it is that both were such an improvement on the Transformers side of things. Transformers had some really neat designs, and Bay had some winners before, but there were a lot of good ones in the two.
Transformers had more character to them. Prime even got an arc in AOE, If it's a good one is a different story, but he had one. Then TLK went back on that and had their big final clash take place in the background.

I'm not saying they were massive improvements either. I figure they'd improve on those as the movies went on and well, Last Knight put a kabosh on that.

>>149213102
so mad his toy's ass.

I love his chunky Shockwave design and how unlike most cons, he has a reason to be out on Earth streets. They killed off the suicide squad way too early.

>>149212102
There should be multiple ways to create a transformers, including sex.

>t.Anon barely disguised fetish.

>>149207655
"Are you fucking kidding me?"

I wonder if he'll retcon Shia's character being dead.

>>149198283
...And that's a good thing!

>>149214408
Why?

So what happened with One? Is it and the story it was setting up done with then?

>>149214377
OP's first words in aoe were screaming for Sam. So my guess is he faked it, or was placed somewhere by the government so he couldn't be a problem since the cons did put his face on every single television.

I also hate Carly, a lot, so I'd rather he never be relevant if it meant another movie about him screaming about her.

Bay wouldn't ever consider it, but Sari is still the best human.

>>149191161
Didn't the last one he worked on not meet expectations either

>>149191037 (OP)
I think this is all done just to hype up Paramount for the merger with Skydance and nothing will come from it, I think a deal will be made to drop the rights sooner and Hasbro will move TF to Legendary.

>>149215975
Because it would kill the franchise?

>>149216194
Lost $100 million, of the post Bay movies only Travis Knight's Bumblebee was profitable and got good reviews (One got great reviews and praise but bombed and RotB was mediocre and didn't lose money but didn't do enough either).

>>149195518
I'm gonna repeat what that anon said and say that would be a good thing lol

>>149216200
The franchise survived TLK, Bumblebee, RotB and One. It sure can survive another Bayformer.

>>149195518
Yeah, but hey. A Energon Universe cartoon is in the works.

>>149216207
Can't wait to see the cat kicking scene!

It's gonna be weird having a Bayformer movie without the metal-shards-and-hydraulics designs.

>>149216241
You think they won't bring that back?

>>149216322
Sure they will

>>149209941
>reminder that planning for Transformers 2007 began in 2003
Which was meant as a last ditch effort as Michael Bay and Paramount originally wanted a GI Joe movie to be made, but the War in Iraq happened during that same year, and the mindset of a GI Joe would not seem appropriate around that time people were fighting in the middle east, especially shortly after 9/11, so they settled with Transformers as a potential live-action movie adaptation instead (although a GI Joe movie did get greenlit a couple years later and was released in 2009)

>>149216078
read the whole thread

>>149208614
Just like the whole "Bob Kane's Batman" situation back in the 80s or early 90s

>>149213975
Has this genuinely been the loudest TF fans have been since 07?

Because Bayformer movie goers genuinely don't care about G1/Comics/Cartoons and only a small percent do. But those fans have their new Fast and Furious type and TF fans are between posting about TFO and Cooley working on the Poop movi

>>149216648
>Has this genuinely been the loudest TF fans have been since 07?
Depending which type of TF you're referring to

>>149195518
The only shows the existence of Bayformers influenced we’re maybe Animated(in that it lead to some cast changes) and definitely Prime, who’s massive budget was a result of their profit from bayformers.
But all those Machinima/netflix/online shows come off as significantly CHEAPER than even the 2000s animes. Hasbro ended up putting so much money around the movies it made them feel they could get away with making their shows cheaper and less important.

>>149216751
I mean in general.

Between the tv series, comics and toys, the fans are mostly broken up. But with the rumor/announcement of an animated series, bayformers and the loss of a potential Two, everyone's got a reason to talk now. Two weeks ago was of course studio series megatron causing drama on the 05 forums and /toy/

>>149217407
Ok fair enough

I hope the new animated show isn't yet another G1 story. I think we had enough of those.

>>149207941
Wild Robot was fine, but it insists upon itself

>>149191556
I think it could still work with Linkin Park again.
https://youtu.be/NQ_MKm0jzfM?si=Rw_EcVZ_Oid62ySh

>>149191556
>>149217550
or just use Smash Mouth, as it worked as well with Shrek

>>149217542
If it's based on Skybound, there's a small, very, very small chance it could be Void Rivals. It could probably pull Invincible viewership if they try to make a story that isn't tied to knowing G1 well with the cameo characters like Skyfire and Springer.

I think Hot Rod should be able to distance himself from IDW for newer audiences because G1 Hot Rod and IDW are thoroughly different characters, and I like how skybound Hot Rod feels a lot like his underused self. All the boomers screeching about how he killed OP are too old to be listened to now so a story that's TF adjacent might do his character some good.

>>149191037 (OP)
looks like bayhem and optimus warcrime are back on the menu

>>149217542
hot take, but we need an actual G1 reboot cartoon, because then it can actually be done with and put to rest.
We've never had an actual G1 reboot, just similar set ups at best without the same characters. Closest was maybe Earthrise and even that went in the BW crossover direction for the last part and never reached modern day Earth.
Do it, with a decent budget(i.e. not Machinima crap or Cybeverse), and see it through, and they we will have scratched the itch of a G1 update in a cartoon(which will always be seen as more significant than comics) and we won't need cartoons that keep going to the G1 homage well.

>>149217860
The downside is that they will need to include the modern characters.

They've been forcing Windblade into everything, giving Chromia a role that isn't Ironhide's girlfriend and IDW characters always need a role. Many of them come from the anime like Skybite, Overlord and the general Star Saber cameos and everything new, even in reference to the old, has to haul them along even when they do not fit. Earthspark was a direct sequel, kind of, to g1 but they needed to show the awful Terrans. Adding even more bulk to hang onto.

rescue bots please come back, modern fandom needs Heatwave and Chase bad

>Hey anon...

>>149217951
would the movie have been better or worse if she displayed any romantic attraction to Orion after this point

>>149208811
Sentinel was fine, he was a bit too obvious imo but not enough to be a major issue. B on the other hand...

>>149207046
Chicken Little live action remake when?

>>149217971
Worse, because it would feel wildly out of place. Like a century down the line I could maybe see a romance starting between the two of them

>>149217927
>The downside is that they will need to include the modern characters.
Not really. Even your example of Windblade hasn't really been a thing in Earthspark or even the Netflix WFC shows, and hasn't been in the Skybound comics.Skybound does have a single new OC though.
But the idea would be to do an actual, mostly G1 based reboot for that reason. I think Star Saber and Overlord could work(though neither really have appeared outside the comics) in that they're only from a little farther down the G1 timeline. Repurposing characters like Chromia or Hot Rod to appear earlier or more frequent, like how Spider-man adaptations would have Mary Jane be more prominent early on instead of not really dating until later in college, could also work

>>149217974
Considering they were selling this movie to 8 year olds, I think Sentinel was fine.

As adults, you can see the signs if you've seen any media with evil ceos. Checking if the video feed was live was the only sign we needed.

I was blind to transformers and had not seen dark of the moon or any cartoons besides a few minutes of beast wars. But I think how they showed the characters that mattered was well done.

>>149217983
Long time gaps would be an interesting thing. It's usually human years we get to see progress, with the exception of Exiles and Exodus which cover the entirety of pre-Prime. It's fascinating to see story move by the decade and not look rushed. Also, both books are very long.

>>149218012
>Overlord
Overlord is originally from Victory. Maybe Super God Master Force. I get them mixed up. Same with Deathsaurus. The anime are fascinating as the most anti-G1, G1 continuation series.

>>149191940
>violent robot fights in the background while we see a soldier's complicated family life
Fixed.

>>149218073
Masterforce. And that's why I think it'd be ok for say, Overlord to appear in a G1 reboot's season 3 or something like that. the events of Masterforce happen a few years after G1 Season 3. If you were remaking G1 and streamlining it to include the G1 cartoon season 1-3 and some of the anime as a complete story without the "filler"(not the right word but bare with me), I can see including later anime characters as set up.

>>149218091
I really want Transformers to go back to hard working dads connecting with the bots. Sparkplug was cool in both G1 and Marvel. Best version of Spike was G1 too.

Mixing the formula with Earthspark could have worked if the focus was on Dorothy and not the ugly children. The episode (8 or so) where she and Megatron are captured is what I think the entire series could have been if it was good. Bringing a soldier who's retired back in to protect their children is good. Turning children into soldiers when the message of the first season was that they shouldn't be involved was insanely dumb

>>149205279
>Sam and Mikaela aren’t particularly likable characters(no one is really)
>no one

>>149218120
S1, G1
S2, the movie? Headmasters??
S3, victory/sgmf

Seems solid, if Japan will allow them to use the characters like that. A lot of the filler was absolutely inconsequential so G1 would fly by. Appearance at oil rig, pick any global threat plot, show Orion and Alpha Trion somewhere in the middle and end with Unicron.

Marvel is arguably the most complete story with the arcs about Circuit Breaker, the escalation of Shockwave taking over, and introducing the world with moments on their planet. But that would be a 4 season cartoon alone

>>149218148
He improved so much after the first movie. I didn't like him at first criminals are hot was proto-romeo and juliet scene

>>149194610
TF one is so mid I don't understand what people see in it, it feels like it wants to be arcane

>>149218290
>wants to be arcane
You know this movie was planned years before Arcane right?

>>149217803
Every series after 2015, besides cyberverse, seems to imply Prime is deep down the same as Megatron if not worse. It's awesome.

I want a series featuring Star Saber and Dai Atlas with Rodimus as the wise mentor role

>>149191556
>Monster can.jpg

>>149198323
>$1.5 billion at the box office
Not under the current economy.

>>149219153
new wiki fucking when

I hate both the fandom and main one for all the unfunny college humor

>Trump sues Paramount because one of their news channels interviewed Kamala
>they have to bring back Bay to make good money and pay the fine

>>149219292
depends on how it does in china.

>>149219153
I wanna see affirmative action Rodimus.

>>149209898

Demolisher was generally a pretty nice guy for a Decepticon.

>>149212256
>>149213102
My main issue with AoE's designs is that they don't look anything like the vehicle they transform into, a good transformer design is one where the vehicle is part of the personality. That's not to say that the first few films were good on that front either, instead of turning into sleek humanoid designs they were just a mess of greebles and scrap. Bumblebee was a huge improvement on that front and it's a damn shame they started sliding back into the bad Bay habits instead of committing fully.

>>149218148
That's more a testament to John Turturro's acting, his writing was still dogshit as all the others.

>>149219463
>china
Not under the current administration.

>>149219830
I think that's kind of overblown, everyone always cites Prime, who is a problem but is still trying to have the vehicle mode bits all over, and Galvatron, who's design is meant to look like it doens't transform traditionally by design.
Everyone else generally evokes their vehicle modes and have lots of bits of it all around
I like how AoE isn't trying to just go for vaguely alien humanoid shapes like the early movies, and tries to give the robot modes themes. It feels more in line with how mecha design works for JP properties(though if I was to be blunt, I don't think they're as cool as mecha). Hound is a big and bulky like his alt-mode, Drift clearly has his car parts arranged to look like samurai armor, Crosshairs has his car hood shaped into a trenchcoat.
In general the movie designs always play up emphasizing all the hydraulics and pipes and other mechanical bits you'd see inside a car in their design. It's not really accurate since it's way more than what would be in a car, but the tricky thing is in reality a body is really skinny. The toys/art treats them as thicker than they'd be in reality most of the time.
Bumblebee movie designs were hit or miss for me. Bee himself is a great update, Blitzscream was cool if a bit wonky, I never thought Dropkick was any good and Shatter is ok, heavily carried by being a fembot. The cybertron designs are fine but feel too chunky since they're heavily cobbled together from the same design. Optimus is cool, though I wish we got to see the AoE Evasion look in true G1 colors. I think that would've made a cool look for him.

>>149219346
Heh. Faggot.

>>149207932
This, he needs good writers and not repeating his formula too much if he gets sequels.
That one redlettermedia video where they watch the first three at the same time was surreal. Bay really did nearly make the same movie over and over.

>>149219930
chinese people still love Bayformers, and Windblade. As long as there's no black people, like AOE apparently, it'll do great

>>149220194
That video changed how I saw the movies and I couldn't unsee it. Losing Sam was an improvement. That said, the exposition dumping isn't good or anything. It's just a break from watching what is literally the same thing again.

>>149219353
>mfw the president told Paramount to bring Bay back

>>149219353
we need a cameo if it's made before his term ends.

>>149191037 (OP)
>>149191146
>>149191151
No.

>Only Bumblebee was acceptable
>The entire live action franchise has 2 series
>1st series it's all bad
>2nd series killed it's goodwill with Beast Wars wasted and MCU quip prequel.

They should not bother with the live action films, all it demonstrated is that amerifats see with disrespect animated films.

Why the fuck would they make more slop when its clear that people WANT a TFO sequel, even those who WEREN'T fans want a sequel, people who NEVER knew of transformers want a sequel, all paramount has to do is NOT fuck up the marketing and they will make WAY MORE sales than last time. The movie has already made an impact on the internet, shit a meme was born from the movie, but not, instead we will get more bayslop.

>>149221533
Boomer rant aside, it's because the people who want a sequel are not guaranteed customers. Paramount doesn't care about a few, 23k people liking tiktok edits. They are loud online, but if you go to a theater, you'll find that most people genuinely don't care.

>>149191037 (OP)
>More Autobots being comically racist caricatures
>More Decepticons being biomechanical eldritch horrors that for some reason are much easier to kill than the former
>More Optimus Prime oscillating between stoic warrior monk and unhinged berserker
>More Megatron following a character arc in which he unironically ends up more interested in saving Cybertron than Optimus
>More instances of the US-industrial military complex being utterly diabolical in a series that it nominally supposed to be rooting for it
A decade and a half ago, I would be repelled. The way things are now? I'm all for a return to the days of Bay. At least we'll hopefully get some decent CGI out of it.

>>149208259
By the time the movie gets made? Probably someone none of us have heard of, desu.

>>149221533
>its clear that people WANT a TFO sequel
The box office sales disagree. Also I, personally, disagree. The movie deserved to fail just from how much of an unironic girlboss it made Elita-1.

>>149221533
>its clear that people WANT a TFO sequel
But do enough people want it to justify the cost? The transformers fandom alone will have a hard time carrying a movie like that. The Bay movies were successful sure, but not because they were transformers movies. It was because they were Michael Bay movies and the guy knows how to appeal to his core demographic.

>>149221374
To be fair, amerifats don't really respect anything anymore. They just kind of go along with whatever their in-group likes.

what happened to the skibidi toilet movie

>>149221718
She was a girlboss but I didn't find her that obnoxious. Like even despite the "I'm better than you" speech she wasn't that OP, she was just pissed at Pax for flushing her career down the toilet. I think the only thing I really take issue with when it comes to her is how easily she takes down Airachnid

>>149221745
I'm guessing transformers is his project after skibidi, assuming that doesn't get canceled (which it probably won't)

>>149221708
>More Megatron following a character arc in which he unironically ends up more interested in saving Cybertron than Optimus
This is by far the best version of him.

Came to Earth to conquer, wanted to leave so bad he was dead tired and out of energy by movie 5.

Netflix version of him had many faults by virtue of being in a below average series, but one thing I liked about him was that he seemed more intent on killing Optimus for fucking their planet over instead of something personal. It's a genuine shame they didn't return to 'Tell me you forgive me' just before crash landing on Earth.

>>149221726
Transformers fandom is big, that much is clear when they have Botcons US wide. And how many people go to Universal for the Transformer stuff.

However.

They can't carry a multi-million dollar movie project alone. TFO had the worst marketing I have ever seen for anything. Worse than false advertising because at least it works. That did hurt people's perception. But even with fans raving now, I still don't think it'd make half of Bay's numbers because it'd be a sequel. Which by default, would make less because nobody in the general public saw One

>>149221766
>She was a girlboss but I didn't find her that obnoxious.
I found her incredibly obnoxious because literally, LITERALLY 2/3e of the movie doing nothing but shitting on the main duo made her sudden decision to become an Orion dickrider feel completely unearned. They never actually became friends, the plot just decided she needed to choose a side.

>>149221933
It's bizarre and hilarious that the best Megatron arc feels like it basically happened by accident in Bayformers, purely as a side effect of Bay escalating the threats with each movie so Megatron goes from being the unstoppable force of conquest he was in 1 to being as battered and helpless as Odysseus just trying to get home.

>>149222185
*2/3rds of the movie, fuck

>>149222185
I'm fine with her shitting on them because they did basically ruin her life (well the system ruined her life but they were the trigger), but I do agree that there should have been more buildup for her peptalk. I wouldn't even need a ton because Pax's decisions did lead to a lot of good things for her already (her awe when she sees the surface for the first time, her discovering the truth about her world and getting a gear upgrade), I would have just liked to see some acknowledgement of it from her before she does her speech, or some sign that she's warmed up to the guy a bit.

>>149222200
If I had a better memory of the epic itself, I think a comparison would be really neat since Prime doesn't exactly yearn to get home. He's okay with staying on Earth for the most part.

Every push Megatron's made including dealings with gods (Sentinel and Quintessa and likely Unicron later) has ended with his 'death', return and a set back that had him down to Barricade and the few that followed him. And Barricade is fine since Bumblebee ditched him in the UK.

And the funniest thing is really how unintentional it is.

>>149222274
I just don't understand what there is to LIKE about her, because the way she was used in the movie felt incredibly forced with all the subtlety of a brick to the head at every turn. The movie is just beating you over the head with the statement "this girl is TOUGH" and then later "this girl is FRIENDLY" with no concern for any kind of character development to get from one to the other, and that's why she's the worst part of the movie for me. Although honestly, Orion standing up for Sentinel made me kind of yearn for Bayformers Optimus. I understand the point the movie was trying to make, but the severity of his crimes was so great that he was unironically more evil than most Decepticons from other continuities at that point.

>>149222345
Adding to this, I want a very simple explanation for why Megatron ditches the nanomachine body that was his only real way to match Optimus 1v1 and go back to a conventional Cybertronian body (which presumably has a Spark) that somehow seems roughly as pathetic as his crippled form in Dark of the Moon: Cybertronian pride. Just have the movie acknowledge that Quintessa created a stylish but ultimately more ornamental than militarily efficient body to bribe him into her service and I'd be happy instead of further disappointed in his performance.

>>149222518
He got kicked out of a hull with the ability to fly. I highly doubt he died so we would have probably gotten a reason for that if the TCU didn't die at the time.

The lack of explanation also bothered me when I realized that as Galvatron he just walked out of the movie. He was souless, and had a nano-body that somehow made it from China to I forgot where they had that meeting. But he makes it all the way to Illinois, again, at least I think that's where they are because Cade's in Chicago and they move back to the lot

>>149222562
Oh I have no doubt he survived, I'm more bothered by how subpar his fighting performance was through the movie as a whole. Also yeah now that you mention it that's weird. I want to believe that transformium disassembly metal cloud trick he does during the road fight can also let him fly much faster than is readily available in combat, but that is just cope on my part that the movie makes no attempt to justify.

>>149222491
Objectively, she serves her purpose.

Subjectively, I can see her being annoying to people that dislike bossy characters but she was a captain first so she had reasons to be pissed at Orion for most of the movie. A new worker of all things known for breaking out of his role.

What we do know, is that it's been 50 cycles (years/centuries unclear) since sentinel became a king. In that duration, Elita's been working as one of the best of the best miners along with D. And she lost it all. I dont know if you've ever had a hardass for a boss but the lack of being friendly is how the machine keeps moving smoothly.

After they see the reveal, she's a lot more cordial and understanding.

>>149223041
>Objectively, she serves her purpose
I will say this one thing in Elita-1’s favour: I genuinely understand why she finds Orion utterly insufferable, because I do too. I’m more bothered by how blatant the girlbossing was and how poorly her character development was handled than the logic of it as an in-universe circumstance.
>I don’t know if you’ve ever had a hardass for a boss
I have. And I know there’s a difference between being a hardass to get things moving, and being a petty bully shucking off the work to people with more at stake than you. Granted I do think Elita is more the former than the latter, but I also don’t excuse poor character development with “this concept could have been better in an entirely different movie with an entire different character progression”.

I mean, I’ve never had a problem with Arcee (comically unintentional but repetitive humanfucker subtext aside) or Airachnid in Prime. They also served their purpose, but also in a way that made their relationships with their teams make sense.

>>149195518
>saying that as if that isn’t a good thing, kek

>>149222491
>Although honestly, Orion standing up for Sentinel made me kind of yearn for Bayformers Optimus. I understand the point the movie was trying to make, but the severity of his crimes was so great that he was unironically more evil than most Decepticons from other continuities at that point.
He can answer for those crimes in a democratic system where a group can come up with his sentencing. Having one guy like Megatron decide it is, as cliche as it is to say, is just as bad as what Sentinel would do.

It's different with bayformers because their world is effectively dead, Optimus is basically the Autobot ruling body. Optimus in TFOne presumably wants to foster a fair, democratic society where Cybertron, stll well alive and populated, can have a say in their future. Even if Sentinel's ultimate sentence would just be execution, having parameters established where they can properly judge someone helps set a better standard.

>>149223110
Arcee is given a lot more time to breathe.

In Prime at least, you've got 3 seasons and a full movie to get used to her being a soldier who's Jack's second mom and bitchy friend.

Elita has under minutes to make a good impression and unfortunately, the span of time you should get to know her was spent on pairing her up with B. I don't dislike this, as Elita and B generally are never a pair on their own. Unfortunately, they spent way too much time making Orion and D touch each other for the 80th time and we missed the phase of her becoming likable.

>>149223336
>Having one guy like Megatron decide it is, as cliche as it is to say, is just as bad as what Sentinel would do
And that's totally fair. Like I said, I get what they were going for. I just feel that as a point of moral granstanding, the moment is undercut by Sentinel being genuinely a worse monster than most versions of Megatron.

>>149219556
yeah at least he cares for others in the team meanwhile
>cyclonus/sandstorm is lazy and crazy and gets shot down all the time
>starscream is angsty
>thrust believes in astrology and will backstab you if it helps the team win

>>149223388
I honestly don't get the impression they ever tried to let Elita make a good impression, the plot just suddenly mandates her be Orion's backup now D-16 is gone.

>>149223336
Optimus being, according to Primus, their default ruler is something that isn't pushed enough as a concept.

It's why Megs' trial in IDW is such a great issue, as for the first time they won- and Megatron is not only alive but they have to figure out how to deal with him fairly. There's enough people to form a functioning government and while I know some people hate movie politics, I enjoy seeing how they handle someone who deserves an execution either walk free or stick around.

>>149195518
Aaron Archer, who was running the franchise in the early Bay years, said something to the same effect. Transformers becoming as big meant they could take less risks. Hasbro wanted their Superman/Spider-man Optimus who always looks about the same and always has a similar backstory and personality. Start wanting these characters to have set designs.
Ironically the bayformers movies not giving a shit about being faithful to G1 made them want to double down on pushing more classic looks because they were worried they'd lose the original recognizable likenesses of the characters

>>149223506
Makes me wonder how the series would be if Japan handled it. Gundam 2.0, maybe. As the reason it landed was because of female fans sending fan letters saying they wanted more politics and character relationships. And TF is massively popular with women.

>>149223679
Japan /has/ handled it and everyone hasn’t really done anything that can reach the fujo bait of the G1 cartoon’s Megatron/Starscream dynamic.
Between 87-89 they were the only ones making new animation, and of course the 90s BW and car robots and UT anime

>haha i'm gonna kill you optimus >:)
>optimus is dead ;_;
megatron...............

>>149191037 (OP)
The pink robot in One was fucking annoying. Reminded me of Bo Peep in Toy Story 4. Then I find out the director of that was the same and it was depressing. People really can't help but have all female characters written that way now. There is no fucking chemistry even when there should be romance, instead the heartwarming moment has her flat out say "I am better than you" and he just says hell yeah queen.

>>149223821
besides not being in love with Optimus she's the same as she was in G1

>>149223765
I wonder exactly why the series never caught on with japanese fujos but is insanely popular with korean women.

Almost all the porn I happen across is Chinese too.

>>149224735
partly being a small fish in a big pond,a d partly due to a lot of the JP original series not really having any fujo-bait dynamics. One of the JP BW animes has a Destron named Starscream(not the original) who's an effete prettyboy, but then he gets turned into a mutant cyborg and his only shipping partner is a big brutish looking bot who also mutates.
TF also got imported to China at a really crucial time when it was one of the few western properties to get imported, so it made a huge splash over there.

>>149225024
It's a real shame, because all the post Bay cartoons are intentionally loaded with shipping fuel. And ikemen bots

>captcha SH0K
Funnily enough Shockwave seems to be the most drawn next to Soundwave and Starscream.

>>149205516
I rather have a Battletech movie at the Amaris Coup than this.

>>149208259
Is going to be Liv since she wants to quit Wrestling

orange arcee

>>149223982
That’s not a compliment.

>>149226108
Lol

>Chromia runs over Orion and D-16
>a day later they both return as Megatron and the literal leader of their entire planet
you think she'll join Megatron like in the Bay comics to avoid going to jail?

>>149228167
She'll hope that they developed a femdom fetish from the experience

https://twitter.com/Its_Burnss/status/1939477302204870705

Did you get an invite to the megop wedding co?

imagine getting doxxed on twitter by chinese fans who get triggered you called it opmeg instead of megop

>>149219353
didn't Paramount's recent Mission Impossible movie had a brownish female president that resembled Kamala, in which writers and filmmakers assumed that she would win the election months before the film's release?

>>149217976
someday it will happen

>>149208933
she is a modern Hollywood liberal, so this won't be a surprise

>>149228645
For me it's megaprime

>>149221788
I'm hoping the Skibidi Toilet movie still happens. If not, I'm going on a protest

>>149191037 (OP)
Never saw Transformers 3,4 or 5, guess I won't be watching the next one either.

>>149229034
The chicken jockey incident of 2025 has basically guaranteed it's going to happen

>>149229108
This. I fucking hate it, but western animation is doomed because of that stupid meme. Studios have just been told that shitty memes are infinitely more profitable than trying to tell a good story. What else can be expected to happen?

>>149229317
this has been going on for years anon. See trailers with quips that can be remixed This is Sparta style.

It's just more prevalent. Like Encanto's tiktok dance scene. From the angle to the frame, it was intentional. It's just totally random id it succeeds or not.

BADASSATRON flopped where Kit Kat Prime got spammed

>>149229406
I get it. I GET IT, dammit. The Wild Robot is arguably an example despite being generally well-liked by /co/; it's paced for tiktok-era attention spans. Hell to be pedantic, one could argue Shrek is the ur-example.

All I'm saying is that Chicken Jockey is a new low.

>>149223802
a villain is nothing without his heroic arch nemesis to fight. its this kind of depth i really loved about Armada Megatron.

>>149220054
I think Drift looks terrible too, they need a more blocky silhouette

We got kino, now back to slop.

>>149229505
I hope it leads to a new comic run. I like bay's unintentionally best universe

>>149229505
Lol no, aoe was pure kino

>>149230672
AOE’s kino if you’re a fucking retard.

>>149229420
Not just Wild Robot being well liked, but even a traditionally animated movie released in theatres despite having retroactively almost zero marketing (despite having a few movie posters here or there and a couple trailers a couple months leading to its release) and only picked up by a small distributor, despite having to be a production from a huge IP (pic related btw) was also well liked by /co/, even a few months before it was released to theatres in the states

>>149230672
good morning saar
>>149231617
this. As much as I enjoy the Bayformers movies, AoE was hot garbage and TLK had potential, and even Bay hired new writers to remedy the problems with the fourth movie, but the thing was Bay never wanted to come back as he was set to direct other movies, but his ideas for the movies (as well as his unrelated movies) were just stitched together into one Frankenstein of a project that Paramount just released it as an unreleased nightmare as such

>>149231885
*unfinished nightmare
sorry, pardon my ESL

Should they bring Peter Cullen back for this?

>>149231944
yes they should

>>149229502
>they need a more blocky silhouette
nah

>>149231944
Dude is fuckin 80, time to pass the torch

>>149217598
They could license the songs, but not have them perform as the lead singer died two years ago.

>>149231885
>TLK had potential
What potential? It was just another "actually Transformers were on Earth before that we didn't know about" bullshit that every goddamn sequel pulled

I wish they'd finish the Bayverse somehow. Maybe in comic form.

>>149232114
what I mean potential, I mean it would've been an improvement Like I said, Bay hired new writers to improve from the last movie, but it just became the same, but it was just an unfinished nightmare, and I honestly felt bad for Bay just because of this

>>149232115
Only to be made non-canon by the next movie like all of them have so far.

>>149232146

I seriously doubt the movies will ever go back to the TLK cliffhanger.

>>149232115
>Bayverse
>comic form
you know they won't

>>149231944
Short of him training a new VA himself- I don't think anyone can match him without replacing the tone of his entire voice.

Impersonators always sound like just that.

It's too distinct and the best voice I've heard was from a youtube parody. But I highly doubt he'd be willing to undego training to be the next Optimus.

Frank Welker too, needs a replacement.

A lot of the G1 voices were already close to middle aged already. Unless the movie came out this year, I dont' think he'll even be able to voice him

>>149232146
I thought the race war with Ironhide was cool, and Shockwave being a genuine sociopath was fun.

He wasn't even really loyal, he just hated peace. The prequel comics vs the adaptations were like Knight and Bay.

>>149232224

Gotta say, Chris did a good job in One.

>>149198344
He'll return

>>149208259
>>149209438
This

>>149232224
Nick Mullen once said that doing impressions is just half the role, you need to actually be able to act too. So you have all these people who know how to say a character's iconic line, but nothing else.
That's what that Jake foushee guy who they hire as a non-union Optimus does. He knows how to say "I...am Optimus Prime" but not much else.

>>149208259
hire Sydney Sweeney already. Also hire her to play as Lara Croft already, hurry up already

>>149232324

I like how you think.

>>149232304
If they got mel blanc replacements they can find an optimus replacement (probably)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXC_j5QB6v8

>>149232400
I have a very creative mind after all

>>149232417

Well, maybe not the Lara Croft thing, but Sydney and Transformers, yes please. I'd actually pay attention to the human scenes for once.

>>149232402
once Casey retired his role as Shaggy, several people replaced him, which led to the current replacement we got which was Matthew Lillard, so I hope when Peter Cullen does retire, they'll get someone to fill in the role as Optimus

>>149232435
Good point. I could see Sydney fitting the role for Jill Valentine in a Resident Evil movie or show, but not as Lara Croft in any Tomb Raider movie or show. But yes, I do want her in the Transformers movies in any human scene

>>149232472

I just want Sydney...

>>149232475
Me too

>>149217803
>Decepticons roaring like animals as they kill ze little one for parts.

>>149231617
>>149231885
Optimus' whole time in evasion mode, including his mention of sparks is kino. Lockdown is the most kino enemy in the movies. All the Autobots being assholes at odds with eachother is fun and gives me early BW/Animated vibes.
It's got some of the most robot character moments in the movies which is what I'm here for.

Same here

>>149221708
>Autobot rednecks, hillbillies and micks
>Decepticons actually becoming humanoid, but in exchange being nazis, KKK or both
>Optimus literally going beast mode and becoming Primal
>Megatron giving up on restoring Cybertron and leaving
>America losing it collectively because of the Hate Plage

>>149232304
Is that the same dude from Cyberverse? Because he was awful. Earthspark sort of has the right cadence but none of the war grit. I don't know how ranged his voice is but for Bayformers, the gravel is almost a necessity. Being imposing is the most important thing and Peter Cullen, I think, perfected it in aoe against KSI and Grimlock.

>>149232649
Same here

>>149232674
Gravel down the throat, got it

>>149232693
Think about THEY SLAUGHTERED RATCHET.

How many OP impersonators could pull off that line without it sounding silly? Or the back and forth he has when talking about their bodies being sold for profit

>>149232649
>All the Autobots being assholes at odds with eachother is fun and gives me early BW/Animated vibes.
It worked in BW because it was only really Dinobot being like a reformed nazi with Rattrap. Cheetor didn't openly disrespect anyone but Silverbolt when he got his transmetal upgrade and Rhinox was overall the normal one surrounded by an insane asylum

Nobody but Hound liked Bumblebee

>>149191037 (OP)
We deserve this.

TF1 was better than any of the Bay movies

I hate Bay

>>149234978
even with bay's marketing, general audiences cannot stomach movies like it in the USA. China, Indonesia and Russia, sure. But that isn't who Hasbro is marketing to. Not anymore at least

>>149235136
I feel like Bay isn't good for Transformers because he's at fundamental odds with the better stories in it

>>149232649
Fair enough, but everything surrounding those elements: the plot, the schizophrenic worldbuilding, all the human characters (and I do mean all of them in AoE); were a train wreck.

>>149191037 (OP)
I just want them to transform again. Don't just turn into a mass of cubes that fly and turn into whatever. They're fucking TRANSFORMERS.

>>149232674
Same OP actor in the Netflix trilogy, too.

>>149235321
He was awful in Netflix.

Everyone had their faults that can't just be blamed on direction. Megatron, who I did like, sounds like he was speaking through his teeth the entire time. But OP was especially bad. It felt more like that Machinima not an official, full series drama

Get Lou Richards and Peter Cullen to record a conversation between Leader-1 and Optimus Prime and I can die happy

>>149235395
this

>>149235113
I love Bay

>>149233661
The way I look at it is that the new Autobots are all newer refugees on Earth who weren't model soldiers. They took their time to get there, didn't fight on the previous iterations of the Autobot team,and it makes sense for them not to work as a perfect unit. Now they were expected to stay and fight for a race that was hunting them down despite all the bots who did the right thing and tried to help humans. Would I have wanted that explored more? Yes, but I get it.
>>149235304
Yeah but that's the par for all the movies. DOTM gets a lot of praise but there's seriously like 20 minutes where Prime flies into some cables and is just stuck there while the action follows Sam and a bunch of soldiers jumping buildings. And wingsuits, which Bay was super hyped about.
I also really hate how Bee is reduced to basically being Sam's dog, and is treated worse than a dog would be in a movie. If you had Sam screaming at a dog the way he does at Bumblebee, it would basically be code for the movie telling you this guy is an asshole and it's ok if he dies.

>>149235557
>Would I have wanted that explored more?
It genuinely sucks that the Bay comics stopped at 3. A comic bridging what happened with OP, Sam, and Bumblebee leading them would have been worth the 4 issues. 8 if they came back to it between aoe and knight

>>149235557
>I also really hate how Bee is reduced to basically being Sam's dog, and is treated worse than a dog would be in a movie.
When people say he's sams' friend, I don't think they have friends. Or know what they look like.

Movie 1 he was a sex vehicle and an older brother to bully the adults. 2, a destructive dog. I think the scene where he pets his face is weird. In Carley's house loft. It's like gripping a muzzle or something.

>>149191037 (OP)
Damn, how hard did One flop. I guess Niggatron and Optimus Thor didn't get the modern audience.

>>149235649
>>149235557
This is why I did an AU where I wrote Bumblebee as something that isn't a kid appeal character. He's a member of the Cybertronian Elite Guard who despite being kinda teeny has the respect of his peers, along with burning determination.
He also talks like a tokusatsu hero

>>149235824
I just write Bee fucking Optimus' brains out ngl

>>149235865
Kek
But just for the hell of it.
>Cliffjumper doesn't die nor does he job to anyone. Most 'Cons are actually fucking terrified of him, considering he fucking 1v1'd Overlord and came out holding the fucker's decapitated head as a trophy
>Orion Pax (He spends most of the story as Orion) is a meek nobody of an assistant bot. Not even a chosen one, he really is just a nobody who has to rise to the challenge and become a soldier

>>149235728
It was Bumblebee so since Michael Kiegan is mixed, your facetious point works

>>149236096
Megatron was black too.
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Brian_Tyree_Henry

>>149236111
No. Anon. I'm saying Keegan is both black and white. His actor. dummy. the joke is ruined

Never saw Transformers 1 because the trailers with Bumblebee annoyed me and girlboss Elita 1 made me roll my eyes. Did I miss out?

>>149237344
They were made to be the ultimate lil timmy movie.

>>149237365
What?

>>149237344
You did because Orion and D-16's character arcs are really well done, and the VAs are all great (Except for Elita and Bee sadly)

>>149205473
The army takes down more Decepticons than any Autobot, Optimus included, ever did.

>>149238504
Not really. Optimus' rampages alone have him clearing big swaths of enemies that easily match human kill counts and then some .
As the movies go on most of the human kills get limited, and while there's some big ones(Devastator getting taken out by a railgun miles away in the ocean, Starscream killed by the military and sam) it's more just to give them something to do while the autobots are taking care of everyone else.

>>149238722
The army bombs every non-named Decepticon in the desert in Revenge of the Fallen, then they take out all the gunships flying around in Dark of the Moon. They take down dozens of Decepticons.

>>149238924
Oh, and they also bomb the shit out of Megatron in the first movie when he and Optimus are fighting. Whereas Optimus was the one getting his shit pushed in. Granted he was trying to avoid stepping on people and Sam and all that.

>>149228842
Didn't stop her from endorsing a Hungarian energy drink coffee brand owned by a company that's in cahoots with the super pro-Trump Hungarian government.

>>149239118
She's a Hollywood liberal meaning she's performatively liberal but willing to whore herself out in more ways than one.

>>149203198
Old news. He later said he was still working on a skibidi toilet project

>>149238924
grunt kills in ROTF barely count when most weren't in the best shape and could get knocked down by a stiff breeze. The Autobots work their way through a bunch of no-names and have almost lovingly rendered scenes of robot-gore decapitating, disemboweling, and torturing Decepticons with a lot of focus.
Optimus was shooting down gunships in DOTM, the military only took down a few that were on his back to let him keep going. The rest were still active and were sucked in by the space bridge's collapse.
And a few bombs on Megatron is nothing when it doens't actually kill him. Sam killing him with the Allspark is the actually big deal, and even then it takes the movie's main Transformer plot device to do it.

>>149239268
Point is, the army is able to take them down. There's even a line somewhere in the first movie that Human weapons can hurt the Decepticons. Also, the jets don't kill Megatron, but they clearly fuck him up pretty bad. He's got sparks flying and parts getting blown off and energon leaking out of his wounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjtljjvTb_0&t=417s

>>149239483
Dammit, video timestamp didn't imbed correctly. The jets start shooting him at 6:57 if you want to see.

>>149205322
>The first four movies did incredible at the box office
>four
and 5?

>>149231944
I have a feeling that if Cullen returns, he will meet the same fate as Orson Welles

I hate the flame shit on Bayverse Optimus, it looks so fucking stupid.

>>149239642
It's so strange to see people nostalgic for it. they look awful and felt dated even in 07.
I get people grew up with it and all, but I grew up with Beast Wars and I can recognize Optimal Optimus as having terrible colors.

>>149239642
but it's ok for rodimus prime and g2 optimus to have them.....

>>149239483
I really don't mind them being taken out by human weaponry, there's precedence for them finding human armaments worth using(a railgun, no less, in G2). In DOTM the weapons they use to take down Starscream were made by WheeljaQue.
In 07 it's a VERY specific circumstance that allows Lennox to permanently take down Blackout when his spark is exposed. I'm ok with it as long as it's either TF tech, or larger equipment/vehicles. Even in the Megatron example , it's more like they're scratching him and pushing him around with the sheer force the missiles have than doing actual, meaningful damage.
It's not like a human with a regular hand held human weapon is taking them down all the time.

>>149239749
>but it's ok for rodimus prime
Ah yes, Rodimus.

Historically a popular character who sold well.

>>149239749
Laser Optimus had more of a gradient than stylized flames. I honestly would've been ok with that. It's a whole different attitude from the hot roddin' flames.
Rodimus' flames are a character design meant to set him apart visually from Optimus.