Thread 149219576

Why is stuff for kids horribly neutered nowadays?
>no death or violence. no one gets hurt (no injuries, no broken bones, no near-death experiences). it often feels like there are no stakes
>no unhappy things like fighting and quarreling, jealousy, or divorces
>no jokes about any matters that can be considered remotely controversial (no harmless jokes like it's going to my thighs, no entered the wrong bathroom and got smacked scenes, etc.)
>no pondering on the deeper implications of worldbuilding
>dumb, stupid cartoon villains with shallow motivations that make no sense. only possible way to make it palatable is to lean heavily on comedy and pettiness (e.g. I'm a mad scientist because the scientific council didn't my scientist diploma when I graduated (turns out they just forgot), so now I'm going to erase it from the map. or I'm only in it for the villain cred to net me some hot chicks. alternatively, the villain thinks it looks good on his resume)

Even when I was a kid, I thought this kinda stuff was gay and retarded babyshit and wanted something cooler that didn't talk down to me.

>>149219576 (OP)
All that sounds too mean-spirited.

>>149219576 (OP)
>>no pondering on the deeper implications of worldbuilding
>>dumb, stupid cartoon villains with shallow motivations that make no sense. only possible way to make it palatable is to lean heavily on comedy and pettiness (e.g. I'm a mad scientist because the scientific council didn't my scientist diploma when I graduated (turns out they just forgot), so now I'm going to erase it from the map. or I'm only in it for the villain cred to net me some hot chicks. alternatively, the villain thinks it looks good on his resume)
/co/ spergs when they do this things

There's like a plethora of reasons.

People who had real problems know how to make something at least close to compelling.

Most of the people who had talent or at least cared enough on what they did are either too old, fired or just dead. The only ones that are still alive are either Craig mrcrackken or gennedy tarkostvy.

Companies trying to play it safe and try to appeal to dumb kids cause it's cheaper and easier.

A huge ass circle jerk of people in the animation industry only bringing in certain people they liked instead of actual talent.

California.

Weird ass people in the industry that get pissy coworkers with different politics.

Loads, loads and loads reasons anon.

>>149219576 (OP)
Maybe you should try moving onto to stuff that you like instead of demanding things you grew up with to mature with you.

>>149219576 (OP)
>dumb, stupid cartoon villains with shallow motivations that make no sense. only possible way to make it palatable is to lean heavily on comedy and pettiness (e.g. I'm a mad scientist because the scientific council didn't my scientist diploma when I graduated (turns out they just forgot), so now I'm going to erase it from the map.
This is weird to realize that cartoon villains are all like this now, because this is in exact reflection of how zoomers gossip about people. It's always something about "hes just butthurt about this and that ridiculous thing".
>or I'm only in it for the villain cred to net me some hot chicks. alternatively, the villain thinks it looks good on his resume)
I've never seen any examples of these though

>>149219655
They really do. It's one of the most retarded boards I've been on.

9/11 and soccer moms

>>149219576 (OP)
Watch Teen Titans Go

>>149219576 (OP)
>dumb, stupid cartoon villains with shallow motivations that make no sense.
Like Slade and many of the villains of 2003 TT?

>>149220083
I'd rather take cyanide.

>>149220174
Take cyanide then.

>>149220174
TTGO does literally everything OP wants

Maybe you should take that cyanide

>>149220146
Slade’s cool

>>149220201
You take it first

>>149219576 (OP)
It gets called edgy and traumatizing when they try to do that stuff

>manchild demands that cartoons pander to him
how sad is your existence kid

>>149219576 (OP)
>Even when I was a kid, I thought this kinda stuff was gay and retarded babyshit and wanted something cooler that didn't talk down to me.
Sounds like your kid self should have picked up a book instead.
Sounds like you should still be doing that now. Animation is what it eats, and all it eats now are west coast losers. Don't expect things to get better on that front for a while.

>>149219576 (OP)
Modern America and it's politics are some of the dumbest they have ever been culturally.
On both sides you have weirdo losers holding back anything truly interesting. The left are full of anti-sex weirdo who would rather use cartoons as a soap box than do anything interesting with their stories while the right are freaks who perceive anything and everything as a conspiracy to turn their kids gay or trans. In the middle are soleless cooperation's who are content on selling people bland slope even if less and less are eating it.
Basically the current world sucks and I hope everyone involved dies.

>>149220260
>Hey cartoons for kids are so fucking dumbed down and not what kids want anymore
>GRRR YOU MANCHILD!
Is this projection?

>>149220182
>>149220201
>unironically defending TTG
Where does this come from?

>>149220483
A combination of new faggotry and contrarianism

>>149219576 (OP)
>Why is stuff for kids horribly neutered nowadays?
It's not just kids stuff. The range of human emotion in media seems like it's either "happy" or "sad" or "angry".
Nobody is written to feel disappointment, jealousy, shame, obsession or doubt.
It's either a montage of everyone having a good time or someone is dead an it's time to cry.

>>149219576 (OP)
>no unhappy things like fighting and quarreling, jealousy, or divorces
Melodramatic traumaslop is all we get though, we just had a divorce flick called Spellbound

>>149220483
From giving the show a try after watching the movie. It's better than any current cartoon.

>>149219576 (OP)
The ratio of woman has increase in the industry and they have a nature of babbling the audience.

>>149220206
But what's his motivation?

>>149222022
Finding an apprentice

>>149222038
Is he a Sith lord?

>>149219576 (OP)
Amphibia

>>149219576 (OP)
>no stakes
That's just it. Can't be threatening or challenging in any way.

>If I haven't seen it it doesn't exist
the post

>>149222038
And?

Things for adults are also horribly neutered nowadays.

>>149219576 (OP)

There is divorce in Amphibia, Los Casagrande and that new Nickelodeon show about the korean-american family.

Go watch The X-Files or something.

>>149220269
Neverhood mentioned

>>149219576 (OP)
What are you talking about? If anything, kid shows these days have more death and violence, use family drama like divorce as plot devices, put more effort into worldbuilding, and have deeper villains than those of the past. What shows are you watching if this is the impression you got?
I reject your premise and baffled that so many people here seem to agree with you.

>>149223146
>>149222432
Okay. Name a single one then and explain how it does any of the things I listed.

>>149223230
>Star Wars: The Bad Batch
>DuckTales
>Amphibia
>The Owl House
>Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur
>Infinity Train
>She-Ra and the Princesses of Power
>Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts
>X-Men '97
>Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man
>Jentry Chau vs. the Underworld

>>149223413
Uhhh no. Those don't have more violence and family relationship drama than past shows. I'm baffled you included the Owl House in this since it does none of that.

>>149219647
Did this guy single handedly censor the entire industry? yes

>>149223430
The Owl House had plenty of violence and family drama, did you even watch the show?
And define "past shows" for me. I take it Teen Titans (2003) based on the OP? I'd say that The Owl House had far more family drama and they were about equal in terms of violence.

>>149223474
>The Owl House had plenty of violence and family drama, did you even watch the show?
No? It didn't at all. Unless you count flinging harmless projectiles at each other and moves that have zero weight to them as "violence".
Teen Titans 2003 is far more violent in this regard. Villains are actually beaten up with serious injuries and don't just harmlessly turn into a pile of goop.

>>149223430
>The entire plot starts with Luz running away to another dimension because her mother wants to send her to a camp for normies, with her feeling extreme guilt around it, as well as her longering sadness over her dad dying
>Eda's rivalry with her sister who cursed her
>Amity and her family
>Belos and Hunter, and how it reflects Belos' relationship with the brother he murdered
>King's search for his family
>Eda adopting King

How the hell can you claim there was no family drama?

>>149223519
None of this is executed in a way that actually matters.

>>149223528
That's subjective, and now you're moving the goalposts. But anyway, what awesome shows of the past did you think had family drama "that actually matters" and how do you define actually mattering?

>>149223495
>Villains are actually beaten up with serious injuries
This isn't true at all. What was the worst thing the Titans themselves did to Slade? Breaking part of his mask. Most villains were beaten without serious violence.

>>149223551
Nobody moved the goalposts retard. I'm talking about how shows are censored and dumbed down with little to no family drama, and I pointed out that this show was censored and dumbed down with little to no family drama. The Owl House is a particularly bad example because the series was going to be geared more towards teens and young adults, only to be babyified by Disney.

>>149223577
But again, The Owl House did have plenty of family drama, you just didn't like it.

>>149223495
>Villains are actually beaten up with serious injuries
Did they?

>>149223611
No, it didn't. Nor didn't have violence that wasn't just people being harmlessly turned to goop or having dinky projectiles thrown at them.

>>149223620
Of course not, that Anon is clearly being blinded by nostalgia goggles, the usual "old thing good, new thing bad" bullshit. Most episodes of Teen Titans (2003) were just low-stakes goofy nonsense. And he clearly thinks that the more serious were more violent than they actually were, not to mention there wasn't actually that much family drama because only Raven and Starfire had any named relatives and they only showed up a handful of times.

>>149223668
If you genuinely think that Owl House is actually as well written as Teen Titans 03 or really any show from the 2000s, you need to be institutionalized.

>>149223668
To add to that, Teen Titans had non-existent worldbuilding despite the OP's comments. There was the heroes, and the villains they fight. The government, cops, and civilians might as well not even exist in that world.

>>149223692
What shows from the 2000s other than Teen Titans do you think avoid all of the complaints you have in the OP?

>>149223711
Avatar mogs all of them.

>>149219576 (OP)
That was a little thing I appreciated about The Dragon Prince.
>guy gets slammed hard into a boulder
>they actually put in a sound effect of his spine breaking on impact and it leaves him paralyzed
>mfw

It was cool until they magicked him back to normal a couple episodes later

Woke took over and turned everything gay and lame.

>>149223692
I think that the best episodes of Teen Titans are better than the best episodes of The Owl House, but your average episode of The Owl House is better than your average episode of TT about Beast Boy working in a fast food restaurant or witch controlling everyone with pies.

>>149223742
>The Owl House is better than your average episode of TT about Beast Boy working in a fast food restaurant or witch controlling everyone with pies.
You are gay, lame and lobotomized. I don't know how the fuck you can enjoy that slop.

>>149219576 (OP)
>Why is stuff for kids horribly neutered nowadays?
>>no death or violence. no one gets hurt (no injuries, no broken bones, no near-death experiences). it often feels like there are no stakes
>>no unhappy things like fighting and quarreling, jealousy, or divorces
>>no jokes about any matters that can be considered remotely controversial (no harmless jokes like it's going to my thighs, no entered the wrong bathroom and got smacked scenes, etc.)
>>no pondering on the deeper implications of worldbuilding
>>dumb, stupid cartoon villains with shallow motivations that make no sense. only possible way to make it palatable is to lean heavily on comedy and pettiness (e.g. I'm a mad scientist because the scientific council didn't my scientist diploma when I graduated (turns out they just forgot), so now I'm going to erase it from the map. or I'm only in it for the villain cred to net me some hot chicks. alternatively, the villain thinks it looks good on his resume)
>Even when I was a kid, I thought this kinda stuff was gay and retarded babyshit and wanted something cooler that didn't talk down to me.
as it turns out there IS a show that fulfills all of your quotas
you're not gonna like it though

>>149220455
Where do you think we are?

>>149223713
Indeed, pretty much everyone agrees that Avatar is one of the best Western cartoons of all time. But few shows from the 2000s were like Avatar, it had a huge influence on later shows though.

>>149223713
OK, Avatar and Teen Titans. So that's two shows. Anything else?

Pussified society. My sister got angry af me for showing her daughter Bambi when she was 7.

>>149219576 (OP)
>dumb, stupid cartoon villains with shallow motivations that make no sense.
You just described most villains in Teen Titans (2003). Remember Mad Mod? The Amazing Mumbo? Control Freak? Larry?

>>149223230
centaurworld

>>149223849
that sure happened

>>149223146
This. Shows nowadays actually get away with a lot more than they used to.

>>149220549
>Dog piss is slightly better than dog shit!

>>149223790
What OP doesn't seem to realize is that Avatar and Teen Titans were exceptions. The vast majority of cartoons back in the 2000s don't meet the standards set out in the OP, and he clearly understimates just how many modern shows do.

>>149224142
Those shows are beanmouth therapy sessions for manchildren and not shows made for kids.

The over abundance of portraying characters having panic attacks kinda bugs me.
It’s like they’re trying to normalize it, which sounds fucking horrible to me, if your kid can’t handle things and getting anxiety and panic attacks over stuff you’ve failed at teaching them how to cope and that’s not something that should be normalized.

>>149224278
But that's the exact opposite of what the OP is talking about.

Honestly the solution is to switch to Anime. enjoy what we had growing up, yes things have gone down and worse and softer but so has American culture. Look beyond our borders for the future

>>149224315
Best case scenario, somehow strike it rich and put some money into making an animation studio of your own, and have niggas learn to recreate the classic 80s-90s anime art style.
A man can dream….

>>149219576 (OP)
because kids are morons.

Millennials can't write for shit

>>149220317
I too thought George Carlin was deep when I was 16.

there is an extremely large population of the western intelligentsia who think that words are just degrees of separation from actual violence, whether it be physical or sexual violence. The only thing that kept the boomers responsible for this in check was their parents, who are all dead now.

Luckily, it doesn't matter anymore because online artists can produce freely and make edgier and frankly just better material.

>>149224142
>>149223668
>>149223551
>>149223474
No actual children watch the bean mouth trash. They would rather watch Skibidi Toilet or that circus cartoon with clown Kobeni, or worse: dubiously written edgy slop like Vivzie trash and Invincible.

>>149225283
What the actual fuck are you talking about?

>>149220269
>Sounds like your kid self should have picked up a book instead.
Or watch South Park/Anime

>>149219576 (OP)
Because that market has been perfected by FNAF. The ultimate tech-grimdark children's mascot horror. Not implied death, implied mass child torture and murder then eternal suffering as an amalgamation of steel and soul forced together. I don't think anyone wants to get in that cage with fnaf.

>>149219576 (OP)
>no death or violence. no one gets hurt (no injuries, no broken bones, no near-death experiences). it often feels like there are no stakes
>no unhappy things like fighting and quarreling, jealousy, or divorces
>no jokes about any matters that can be considered remotely controversial (no harmless jokes like it's going to my thighs, no entered the wrong bathroom and got smacked scenes, etc.)

You can get those in kodomo/shounen anime to be honest.

>>149223713
Ehh

Bump

>>149219576 (OP)
action cartoons did that because the writers didn't actually want to write for kids but they had to because action cartoons for adults was hardly a thing

now that there are more adult cartoons, writers don't need to do that

>>149220455
just watch adult cartoons
but i guess invincible would only be palatable to you if it was rated TV y-7 fv

>>149220067
/thread

>>149223528
>that doesn't count because I say so
When I was a kid I always wondered where all you faggots would end up once you ran out of dodgeball/tag games to ruin. God bless the internet, eh?

>>149220067
>>149229723
OP's pic is from a few years after 9/11.

>>149219576 (OP)
>he thinks Teen Titans was good because it was LE MATURE
retard kun, Teen Titans was good because it just did everything right for its era.
>successfully aped anime during a time when every cartoon was trying to ape anime with very little success.
>got popular Japanese duo Puffy for the music
>Glen Murakami, a veteran character designer, made designs that blended anime aesthetic with western aesthetic seamlessly
>good animation despite the limits of its detailed character designs
>characters that were written to be fun and bounce off each other
>memorable and talented cast of voice actors
>most importantly: knew when to take itself seriously and when to realize it was a goofy little kids cartoon that didnt need to make sense
but instead of praising all that, you chose to jerk off the cyborg troq racism scene. and now we have 100 preachy cartoons about the power of being queer and inclusive rather than just being a good, solidly crafted cartoon. you brought this on yourself.

>>149227549
Scott truly won.

>>149219675
SPBP

>>149219576 (OP)
Teen Titans was for teens not kids
hence all of the teen issues deal with

>>149231808
OP is the "edgy" spammer.
>>149232109
It was for kids. The dcau was for teens.

>>149232205
Love triangles, hating your family, and facing emotional failures isn't what was expected of kids in the early 2000s, but it was for teens

>>149219576 (OP)
>no death or violence. no one gets hurt (no injuries, no broken bones, no near-death experiences).
Kill yourself. Mainstream media, even for adults, very rarely contains any really gruesome violence that leaves someone disfigured, like getting half their face torn off or their innards spilling out as they walk or something. Even the "edgy gory" games and anime tend to prioritize blood over actual gore. This isn't just a cartoon issue, and why the fuck are you looking for something like that in a kids' cartoon to begin with.
>no unhappy things like fighting and quarreling, jealousy, or divorces
Those happen in cartoons all the time. S1 of Infinity Train featured some (heavy-handed) divorce drama. And characters quarreling is just a given, it happens in every single cartoon.
>no pondering on the deeper implications of worldbuilding
Listen up nerd, mainstream media is not about worldbuilding. This is not what normies want to see. They want to see exciting stories, not fake documentaries about a fictional world. This is the domain of niche sci-fi literature. But also Adventure Time did some of that on occasion.
>dumb, stupid cartoon villains with shallow motivations that make no sense
Andrias, Toffee, Belos, any Infinity Train villain, a good deal of Adventure Time villains, etc. All have more compelling motivations than the 80s "I will take over tha world" losers.

>>149232238
>Love triangles
There weren't love triangles in TT.

>>149232238
>Love triangles, hating your family
I don't remember these two

>>149232332
>>149232449
>forgetting terra
I guess everyone forgets her in the end...

>>149223472
You are retarded

>>149232591
And? There was not a love triangle you dumb beast boy faggot
>b-but Raven
She didn't care for bb

>>149232317
>An entire wall of hand waving
I'm not even going to attempt to argue with you. The shows that you're listing off are therapy sessions for manchildren and not shows made for children.

>>149219576 (OP)
The ultimate goal of many of these cartoons isn't to tell compelling stories. It is to get as many kid's eyeballs watching and then begging mommy and daddy for toys.

Things like deaths, divorce, broken bones, and racism really isn't the best way to tell Funko toy slop. The best way to sell toys is by making things fast paced and colorful. And something that mommy and daddy thinks is cute and wholesome.

>>149232317
>Normies want to see slop
I mean, you said it, not me. Also, what makes you think a story can't have deeper world building and not be exciting?

>>149233534
But there are deaths and broken bones in teen titans go

>>149220146
I mean.....at least he made it look cool.

>>149233819
No, there isn't.

>>149233855
How could you know if you don't watch the show?

>>149219675
california hasn't made cartoons in decades. that was the whole reason for that piece of budget news a little while ago.

>>149233895
How come you aren't showing any examples then?

>>149233912
That's the thing. I know most cartoons outsourcesome grunt work for animation but holy shit nowadays they just buy the rights to media properties and just put random shit they write and think itll work.

That DMC "anime" gave me nasty whiplash.

>>149223430
>X-Men '97
>A literal on-screen genocide
>One of the main characters dies, as do several children

Frankly I wanna know which kids' cartoons you're thinking of from back in the day because the glorified toy commercials I remember were either hollow bad-guy-of-the-week or the-writer's-thinly-veiled-fetish.

>>149235326
OP is just a stupid kid.

>>149235326
I know, right? The only cartoons OP has listed when pressed are Teen Titans and Avatar.

>>149235441
Worse, he's a stupid 30-something blinded by nostalgia. Whenever anyone points out modern shows that meet the standards he set out, he comes up with excuses for why they don't count.

>>149233513
>therapy sessions for manchildren
That's what OP is asking for, just his own brand of therapy session.

>no unhappy things like fighting and quarreling, jealousy, or divorces
Did you know that modern writer love misery porn?

>>149235326
>>149235441
>>149235695
You do realize that no kids are actually watching these beanmouth therapy session shows right?

>>149235695
>he comes up with excuses for why they don't count.
They don't count because children aren't watching these shows, nor are they really made for children. They're made for manchildren.

>>149235326
>>149235441
>>149235695
I'm watching the Justice League cartoons from the 00s and those have better writing than any cartoon after 2015

>>149236203
>They're made for manchildren.
so they are perfect for OP then

>>149236205
the Justice League shows have better writing than pretty much every cartoon BEFORE and after them. They were the exception and not the rule

>>149236233
>No u!

>>149236281
case in point

>>149236289
>Still no argument.

>>149236205
Anon is correct. Justice League is- ARGH! AIEEEEEEEEEEE! MY MIND! BATDADDY SAVE ME! AGALAGALAGALAGALA!

>>149219576 (OP)
Society shifted from trying to prepare people for life towards trying to fix everything and remove all the bad things. Which is a good idea in theory because things can always improve. The problem is shielding and turning a blind eye to problems within society that can’t be fixed like bullying, the consequences of bad decisions, that some people just suck, being taken advantage of by someone you think is a friend, etc. is while they are all scary concepts to a kid they won’t just disappear even if you teach every single kid to be proper and wait a generation like how D.A.R.E. and the war on drugs thought they’d succeed.

>>149220483
zoomer toddlers that grew up watching it and dont know any better are now teens and coming here to shit up the board with their lack of taste

>>149236205
>>149236248
I miss Spectacular Spider-man and EMH. God the shows that replaced them were so dumb.

>>149233952
Well, it seems OP got btfo'd by a silly show like TTG.

The real answer is that nobody wants to pay anybody to be innovative and creative. They (barely) pay people to do whatever they can cram into a schedule on legacy TV (which is dying). You wanna know why kids cartoons don't have brave, innovative stuff? Because there's barely any of them fucking left, man. The people who COULD pay to get better shit are going all in on AI in the hopes of never having to pay a human to innovate ever again.

The chaff you see is cheap slop that's quick and easy to produce. The content is unimportant to the people begrudgingly signing the checks.

I recently finished up that Legion of Superheroes show. S1 was a bit on the goofier side but 2 played the drama and tension a lot higher. But even S1 ended with heroic sacrifice

>>149237724
As a kid, I preferred the Legion over TT. I liked its artstyle and tone. I will never forget Superman X.

>>149238045
Even as someone who liked anime I never liked Teen Titan's attempt to be ANIME like. It was always the most annoying aspects played up to 11. "LOL WE HAVE ANGER VEINS AND OUR HEADS GET BIG AS WE YELL!" If I were to make a list of things I liked about anime that stuff wouldn't make the cut.
>I liked its artstyle and tone
It felt more like the super hero sci fi stuff it should be. Ah Shadow the Superman. You weren't near the edge lord you looked like. Shame it never really caught on enough to get a third season. Another show they essentially set up to die.

>>149238080
>Teen Titans got five season and a tv movie
>just because it looked like anime
A real shame.

>>149219576 (OP)
That stuff was brutal, desu.

>>149219675
nuke california

>>149219576 (OP)
Because the left controls the media industry and they have become more openly insane and evil over time.

The left hates reality. It hates health, it hates vitality, it hates the truth, it hates goodness, it hates greatness, it hates god, it hates western civilization and white people, it hates family and culture and tradition and religion, it hates reproducing, it wants to kill everything and make it a cog.

>>149219576 (OP)
the same reason virtue signallers can't shut the fuck up about age gaps.

"everyone has to be sheltered and domesticated from real life and must be prevented from ever making any mistakes or taking any risks. there is no such thing as real love, only trauma. if someone doesn't love you back it's a limerance and you're the problem. women don't have limerances because they can reject so many men. sex is always bad especially if a man is involved. men must lead lives that never involve ejaculation or healthy sex because prostate cancer has to be normalized. masculine anti-heroes can never be benevolent and shouldn't be depicted ever. young men must be frightened in to never getting with older women even though it would be good for them, and even more importantly all women must be infantilized and be considered children even as adults. young adults must be considered to never have agency, specifically young women can never have any agency with an older man. the brain isn't fully developed until 25, so ignore the fact that maybe humans are supposed to be slightly impulsive to gain experiences before the imaginary brain crystallization at 25 that doesn't actually exist since human brains have plasticity and change throughout our entire lives"

>>149239566
liberals are not leftists, anon. karl marx is the most western of all philosophers because dialectical materialism incorporates science.

>>149236371
there should be a rap battle because professor x and MM. it's just them screaming

>>149239668
>young men must be frightened in to never getting with older women even though it would be good for them
i dont think thats the reason dudes arent getting with older women anon

>>149219576 (OP)
https://filmschoolrejects.com/the-melancholy-of-don-bluth-1be72847b858/

>>149239705
could it be the lower testosterone in men as time goes on? could it be men are shamed for having sexuality at all? could it be that young men's confidence has been destroyed by social media villainizing them for cold approaches?

there are hot older women out there. young men could be fucking them and not dealing with the drama and problems younger women have

>>149239683
>dialectical materialism incorporates science.
LOL

>>149239731
>anon laughed as it was made apparent that all right wing ideology has no basis in science or reality

>TFW you give your niece a copy of the Last Unicorn and get an angry phone call from your brother because you forgot most of the movie and sent his kid into a well of well of existential despair.

I'd do it again too. The more alternatives they get to that minions crap the better.

>>149239769
KEK it's hilarious because the Last Unicorn helped the kid grow up some when the parent was stunting them

>>149219576 (OP)
Why don't you just watch shows aimed at adults? You're an adult. You're a grown man mad at Happy Meals.

>>149239785
For what it's worth she did end up liking the film even if it made her sad. Even thinking about it for a good while after it was over and asking a lot of questions. Which I count as a big win. Last disney thing they went too they forgot all about almost immediately.

>>149239822
you are a good person

>>149219576 (OP)
Why are you still watching stuff for kids? The show in your picture ended 19 years ago. You've had more than enough time to move on and find something mature to watch.

>>149239810
Because most shows aimed at adults are somehow more immature than shows aimed at kids. They're almost all the same kind of puerile, low brow shock humor that only an immature person would consider immature. More to point I don't think it's wrong to expect better of the material we show to a younger generation. While movies are no substitute for proper parenting we are in at least someways shaped by the media around us and having a constant parade of idiotic noise is doing no one any favors. We need adventures with stakes and genuine drama and consequences and true morals.

>>149239840
>We need adventures with stakes and genuine drama and consequences and true morals
You wouldn't watch those shows anyway

>>149239840
>Because most shows aimed at adults are somehow more immature than shows aimed at kids.
No they're not. That's just what manchildren to say to rationalize why they still watch kid shows. You could be watching Slow Horses or Shogun right now, but instead, you're mad that Nickelodeon isn't emotionally mature enough for an imaginary child you're describing.
>but the younger generation!
Go show them the shit you liked and respected as a kid then. Go read them a book. You could be doing any of that instead.

>>149239865
>Go show them the shit you liked and respected as a kid then. Go read them a book. You could be doing any of that instead.

I do. But that doesn't mean I don't wish they still had something of their own that they would feel as strongly about as many years later. And it doesn't mean that modern crap is beyond criticism because better shit existed.

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>>149239968
>But that doesn't mean I don't wish they still had something of their own that they would feel as strongly about as many years later.
Why wouldn't they feel as strongly about it? The best stories for kids are timeless. If you can't find a good book for your kid to read, that's on you.

>>149219576 (OP)
TTG Robin flat out murders people. don't act like the 2002 slop had actual edge.

>>149219675
Did you know California has a chemical waste dump right off the shore of Santa Catalina Island?
I think there might be a connection there.

I'm not gonna pretend the kids shows my generation watched were gold just because what's out now is shit. For every Avatar or JLU there were a million Squirrel Boys or Loonatics that were awful.

>>149240081
>2000s baby
this goes beyond you, jr

>>149240110
Sure, I'm supposed to think the 90s that gave us mountains of Saban shit was better. VR Troopers, Beetleborgs, Masked Rider, they were all garbage. Fun garbage, but still garbage.

>>149240010
Based

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>>149241580
Shut the fuck up and kys trannies

>>149241583
How old are you?

Transformers killed Optimus
Beast Wars killed Dinobot

What other cartoons have killed a major character? A hero?

>>149242176
>Transformers killed Optimus
And people hate it

>>149220549
That is barely a achievement nor a high bar anon...

>>149242683
And it's literally not true which is the real point. I'd rather watch Infinity train.

>>149242700
Infinity train finished like 4 years ago. It's not a current cartoon.

>>149242727
Infinity train is older than TTG, and he said modern, not just currently going.

>>149242748
*younger

>>149219576 (OP)
Steven Universe had most of tgose things and you guys still hate it so idk man
Maybe you just miss being a kid and thinking of any smudge of "seriousness" as cool and fun because it made you feel like a grown up even when it was tame.
Unless you were already old then if so that's just sorta sad I'm sorry...

>>149219576 (OP)
Because kids today are weak sissies and need to have their feefees protected at all times or they'll ree out uncontrollably if they're exposed to something that confuses or frightens them even a little.

>>149242748
He said "current" tho.

Bump

>>149244049
Based on what?