Technically impressive, but not genuine engaging.

>>149279871 (OP)
Sakuga?

I prefer the 2012 fights

https://youtu.be/J30uNBU98lM?si=5BnC1pRmujCQUmOK

>>149279871 (OP)
Retard filtered, and it worked on you

>>149279888
I don't think Sakuga applies because those fight scenes get a certain level of "hype" from their fanbase or even from people who aren't fans

>>149279871 (OP)
How is it technically impressive? They barely even draw anything.
They're glorified off-screen battles.

>>149279892
Seeing as a water filter only lets water through, I guess retard filter is a fitting name too.

>>149279871 (OP)
Stolen from Naruto

>>149279871 (OP)
Forced animation. Its when directors use a high amount of frames to justify their lack of creativity, as well as the other 90% of the show having stiff, cheap framing.

>>149279871 (OP)
Dragonballslop, wowing peabrains with laser light shows more than stoners at a pink floyd tribute

Over-animated

Imply don't show. The problem is that choreography usually means following action and this doesn't. It implies it.

>>149280612
Make everything movie fast and retards will chimp out at online as EPIC SAKUGA. It's frankly tragic how people have lost the ability to discern quality. And that's even assuming they had much of it to start with.

>>149280568
DBZ fights were engaging though, Toriyama didn't have to learn any real martial arts for his fight scenes either, he just watched a bunch of Jackie Chan movies and that was all he needed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lql9B6XYkF4

I HATE SAKUGA

>>149280721
DBZ fights are just teleporting, lasers, and speed lines, i dont really see any comparison to jackie chan fights which are like intricate slapstick dances

>>149279871 (OP)
Anime.
"Hype moments and aura" if you're a zoomer.

>>149279888
>>149280736

>Sakuga?
Sakuga refers to a specialized animator that is brought in to key a specific scene. Which can be anything from a nature scene to a beach party. But the internet is incapable of using any word in it's appropriate context and zoomer retards exclusively use it for adhd try hard spectacle slop fight scenes

>>149280780
This is the correct response. The high speed and lack of visible detail contribute to a short period of context-free hype, serving no purpose except to pad the characters' credentials as supercombatants.

>>149279871 (OP)
bright colors

>>149280451
>>149280568
Western fight scenes have yet to be good as those 2 or even Soul Eater.

>>149280568
>>149280780
>>149280940
Okay, so why don't these scenes lead to "battleboard" level discussions that you see with FOTM shouneslop?

>>149281032
Justice League was better. Too many anime fights are just noisy spectacle made to pad out the page count or episode run time. It's all just weightless blurs covered in after effects on top of that

>>149279871 (OP)
>technically impressive
I CANT SEE SHIT

>>149279871 (OP)
I'd call it a lasershow. There's nothing tangible, only flashing lights.
Look at picrel. It's fucking garbage, but the character actually do something. There is more to this fight than just "who makes the bigger lightning kaboom".

>>149281231
I liked The Batman fights also. No Justice League but it gets the job done.

>>149281231
NTA but I agree that Western series have the potential to have amazing fight scenes, the DCAU and especially the DC animated movies have incredible 10/10 fight scenes but that is not the reality anymore, most western animated fight scenes are this >>149279871 (OP) or just don't happen for the sake of comedy

My favorite part is where everything is in focus

>>149279871 (OP)
Kino

We need to go back.

>>149281296
And even then there's more anime that have fights better than Justice League.

>>149281335

>>149281032
Cartoons aren't made to have flashy fight scenes. This is a style characterized by simple, squishy characters meant to be used in stylized, almost abstract cinematography. This is very good for expressing the intended feeling of a scene or its characters but not for choreography or realism, which is what is required by a good fight scene.
On the flip side, anime has serious difficulty effectively approaching work which requires subtle displays of expressionism, and while this may come in part from Japanese culture, their animation style does not do them any favors as it severely limits the amount of leeway they have in showing abstraction.

>>149281032
>>149281179
Because DBZ fans are retarded mongrels and mostly black/mexicans who also love WWE

I mean, there is anime with good fight choreography, like Cowboy Bebop, but Bebop was heavily informed by Holywood films and Hong Kong cinema, it wasn't just super guys punching in straight lines really fast while going KYA KYA KYA

>>149281393
I won't deny it. A lot of older fight shows actually knew how to hold a damn camera. The problem lies in the new wave of visual schizophrenia where people focus on speed rather than clarity. Even scenes with the Flash going crazy fast have some semblance of clarity.

>>149281231
>>149281296
Do you call that a good fight? I bet you think the awful Superman vs Darkseid in Superman TAS was good too. The only good fight in the DCAU was Superman vs Captain Marvel.

>>149281482
>Do you call that a good fight?

>Hits have weight
>Action is framed and flows well
>There's external context giving it emotional backing as well as pure action

Yes. Yes I do. But here's something that's your speed.

>>149279871 (OP)
It's not even technically impressive. We don't see anything apart from lines and light. You know what I like in my fight scenes? To be able to know what the fuck is going on in it.

Rise of TMNT must be cursed, I wanted to watch it with a friend who usually likes TMNT because I didn't feel like watching it alone and he just wouldn't relent even though I pitched it multiple times, he just dismissed it without a second thought every time

Then he pestered ME to watch Tales even though we saw the movie together and thought it was mediocre, I don't know what makes Rise so repellent

>>149281477
Can't really deny that either. But there are animated shows(like Dungeon Meshi and Scavengers Reign) that look great.

>people saying Dragon Ball fights are bad
Show me a comic (or manga) with better fights

>>149279871 (OP)
its just weeb slop.

>>149281559
The action is dynamic, the fighting stinks
>flying
>raining lasers
>and the trademark mortal kombat spam punches with speed lines
Like brah

>>149281434
> but Bebop was heavily informed by Holywood films and Hong Kong cinema,
So was Dragonball.
Everytime there's a discussion about anything involving action the least informed redditor tier shit-lickers crawl out the woodwork spouting crap like this.

>>149281482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_l8Boo_SYk

>>149281231
>I fight between two super powerful beings should be a like fight between two normal guys
Just watch Batman. A fight with Superman (or any superhuman) should be spectacular

>>149281682
Dragonball wasn't as retarded as DBZ I'll give you that much, but we're talking about DBZ, the show people actually like even though it's braindead.

>>149281700
That isn't the DCAU

>>149281738
>Someone getting slammed through a basement isn't spectacular
A fight should be a fight. Regardless of the scale or powers. there's more to one than just shoots beams and planets shattering.

>>149281625
>flying
>Lasers
What is wrong with these two? Characters like Superman, Iron Man, Thor, Green Lantern, etc can fly and shot energy. Shouldn't they be allowed to use their powers?

>>149281846
Superheroes aren't based on martial arts, their fight scenes don't need to be intricate displays of technique because those characters don't practice karate or kung fu or whatever, Superman punches you and you fly through a building.

DBZ blends the two things but I feel like the martial arts element is really sub par, it's stylish and dynamic, but boring. I'll put on some kung fu flick over it any day if I wanna see cool fighting.

>DCfags think the boring fights of Superjobber and the Justice League are good
LOL. This is how you make a cool cape fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTN9oedNhhE

>>149280749
Dragon Ball/Z can have some good choreography (better earlier in the series honestly) but there's way too many scenes where they draw 3 pictures of the characters punching each other and they just loop those 20 times a second.

>>149281969
>but boring
Most people around the world don't think that

>>149282132
it doesn't help when a lot of shonen anime will cut to people going AHAHAHAHAAAA or explaining the shit we just saw. I realize this is probably an issue of adaptation and that those panels in the manga don't really throw the pace off the way they do in anime, but this is also something you should be aware of when you make your adaptation and don't just use manga panels as storyboards.

>>149279871 (OP)
Funny thing is its not technically impressive at all. Its way easier to draw than actual choreography.

>>149282385
They use reaction panels as padding for the episodes, it's as simple as that.

>>149282385
The pacing in a lot of shonen anime is bonkers. DBZ is of course notorious for it. It's one of the reasons I don't hate DB Kai as much as everyone else...cut that shit down by half and you lose almost nothing.

>>149279871 (OP)
Cheating? It let them pretend it's a "fight" without having to show any "fighting"

>>149279871 (OP)
forced animation

DBZ becomes irritating because the whole power level thing makes fights ping pong between one sided. Almost every fight in DBZ is one side basically being immune to damage until the other guy gets a boost. Granted though this can lead to tense fights where you know the good guy is outmatch but still has to fight

Namek is my favorite DBZ arc because most of it is a cat/mouse game where Vegeta spends most of the time running and picking off Frieza's goons one at a time instead of trying to fight at once. Then you have Goku vs Frieza where Goku knows he's completely outmatched but still puts up a really good fight.

>>149281430
>this may come in part from Japanese culture
?? their culture is notorious for being incredibly reserved

>>149283917
Reservation is not the same as subtlety.

>>149281231
>Justice League was better
If it was better, why so few people remember the fights from Superman TAS or Justice League? Now, how many people remember Goku vs Vegeta, Goku vs Freiza, Gohan vs Cell, Gaara vs Rock Lee, Naruto vs Sasuke, etc? Even normalfags know about these fights. All around the world.

>>149281241
Your power level's still too low to track their movements, Gohan.

>>149284688
>why so few people remember the fights from Superman TAS or Justice League?
Who says they don't? Frankly if you ask me the fact that the only thing anyone can remember about DBZ is people yelling and charging up is far bigger an indictment about their own shows. And what about the fights do you actually remember for that matter? Because most of these altercations went on for multiple episodes of people just banging on each other.
>Even normalfags know about these fights. All around the world.
No they don't. You don't even know what normalfag means.

>>149281297
00:17

Sloppy. She could have nailed the guy with a more powerful elbow across the jaw as she got into position and continued the combo with the 2 elbows instead of wasting the motion just to get into position and not striking with it.

>>149281559
Star: Strike It Rich, Tough, JJK, a few others.

>>149284967
>JJK
Eat shit

>>149284943
>No they don't
He is more or less right tho. Normalfags in latin america remember all those anime fights

>>149279888
2012 TMNT is probably the best choreo the series has had in terms of fight scenes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIgeo0ife-A
They had Shredder win a 1v8 and it didn't rely on flashy effects at all

>>149285445
This one is retarded

>>149279871 (OP)
>>149279888
slop, we call it slop

>>149279871 (OP)
Style over substance. Not helped by it being the previous worst TMNT.

>>149285011
lol, I knew that would get SOMEBODY.

>>149279871 (OP)
DBZ style?

>>149284967
>SIR
Fuck off

>>149285602

>>149285620
It's a lazy copy of DBZ. DBZ you can at least see what the fuck is going on when attacks are thrown even if the target of the attack is moving out of the way faster than is tracked.

>>149281559
Holy shit right is all talk talk talk I'm starting to see how far manga has stagnated.

>>149285631
Orguss 02 is a masterpiece.

>>149281559
>Show me a comic (or manga) with better fights
Best fighting series I've ever read was Change Guy. It's pure kino.

>>149281231
Shin poly ear has fight that are better than every cartoon one you’ve mentioned

You missed the best DCAU fight of all.

>>149281430
> in part from Japanese culture, their animation style does not do them any favors as it severely limits the amount of leeway they have in showing abstraction.
Wrong, Watch something like Mind Games retard

>>149281434
Cowboy Bebop has better choreography than 99.99% of western cartoons(also better writing)

>>149281969
But most capeshit comics have bland panelling and even superman punching someone in a building is extremely boring and weightless

>>149279871 (OP)
Thing is, I do like a big flashy fight. Flashy for flasht's sake is perfectly fine when done properly.

It's all the more reason why I cannot pinpoint why this doesn't work.

My current thought is that Rise is really...try-hard about it. Having a swagger that isn't there. Like, all those standing there, grinning with that cool stand pose. Even then, I was not satisfied with that answer.

I call it trying way too hard to be anime

>>149285821
What Dbz does really good is that fact that a lot of the time when someone punches a villain he also gets punched back in the same frame. It’s so good

I’m not gonna lie, the old Gobots cartoon is in the running for “Action cartoon with the worst fight scenes.”
Like holy shit these are a snorefest.
>Characters never fucking hit each other
>They go down in one shot
>Most fights are just them chasing each other around

>>149279871 (OP)
What an odd clip. Reminds me of the DB/Z scenes where the characters have such a fast-paced fight scene that the other characters struggle to follow their movements with their eyes. But even in those scenes, they still make sure that the audience of the story can easily follow everything and understand what's going on. The flow of action is smooth and legible.

With a shot of the eyes moving wildly left and right, it seems they deliberately meant for the audience to think "whoa they're so fast that you can't even see what's going on". Since I haven't seen this episode, I'm not gonna judge it. Maybe the scene works well enough in its context. Still, I'd hesitate to say there's any "fight choreography" in that clip. Usually that word stands for a sequence where the characters perform a set of movements/actions/etc. But I can't see what anyone's doing there. All I can see is a lightshow of special effects.

>>149285876
DBZ had fantastic paneling. Western stuff can’t compete.

>>149285737

>>149285889
>>149285876
>>149285808
>This is what weebs honestly believe

>>149285911
It’s the truth, most western comics have garbage panelling. The good ones are the exception.

>>149285945
>The good ones are the exception.
Can confirm. I've been in multiple threads where /co/ readers didn't even know what order to read more complex paneling in. Western comics tend to have highly simplistic page layouts and half the few artists that get fancy with it don't even know what they're doing and fuck up basic principles. To say nothing of the shit use of space, violations of basic rules for frame of reference, poor direction of the eye across the page, few if any diagonal gutters, improperly placed panels in panels, and not enough use of art stretching into the gutter.

I blame Watchmen.

Also thought bubbles were broadly killed in Big 2 comics for some godforsaken reason.

>>149285911
Prove them wrong and post good comics.

>>149286019
I think it’s because they look stupid

>>149286170
If they look stupid, change how they look. They were a practical storytelling tool writers have had to write around not having for decades. It was dumb as all fuck to ditch them.

Western comics are needlessly fucking conservative in form to their severe detriment.

>>149286180
Thought boxes work just fine.
Thought bubbles just look too fucking goofy and cartoonish.

Pancho Villa shitting up the thread aside, I'm sure the reason we don't really fancy fight scenes in animation (regardless of origin) is that shit is expensive to make and most shows (especially Japanese) don't spend shit on that
>>149281404 is really cool but there's no way you could do that on a television budget in a regular series

>>149279871 (OP)
I didn't realise they were fighting at first. Legit thought the turtles were just jumping around while Shredder(?) watched.

>>149279871 (OP)
>"Tell, don't show"
>Michelin boy slapped the big bad boy on his ass a hundred times there somewhere.... is what the director said was happening.

>>149286217
> most shows (especially Japanese) don't spend shit on that
Yet some of the best fight, like the ones from CB come from anime and also you have hundreds of high budget ovas with fantastic action.

>>149285742
>anime doesn't have issues with abstraction just watch (film that constantly has to break away from anime convention and stray into other styles and mediums to convey abstraction)

>>149286440
Then western cartoons have issues with abstraction as well since most of them are generic garbage you dumb idiot

>>149286440
>>149286447
Also to add to this there are so many Komodo anime that have simple squishy characters that are used is “abstract cinematography”

>>149286447
It's not about things being generic, it's about the conventions of the style. Cartoons have excessive room for the creative use of form, anime doesn't unless it strays from the style...

>>149286457
...such as in kodomo anime, which are directly inspired by and in many cases indistinguishable from Western cartoons.

>>149286478
> Cartoons have excessive room for the creative use of form,
Except most cartoons have bland as fuck direction and the rare interesting ones are exceptions.
> such as in kodomo anime,
You know that Kodomo are like 1/5 of all anime
> in many cases indistinguishable from Western cartoons.
Maybe in the 60s but after that you can always tell they are anime because they use anime directing techniques, colours, expressions etc.

>>149279871 (OP)
ugly dogshit designs

>>149286497
>Except most cartoons have bland as fuck direction and the rare interesting ones are exceptions.
Irrelevant.
>You know that Kodomo are like 1/5 of all anime
Irrelevant.
>Maybe in the 60s but after that you can always tell they are anime because they use anime directing techniques, colours, expressions etc.
Wrong.

>>149279871 (OP)
>choreography
where? all I see are speed lines and fx lines

>>149286503
Your small brain is irrelevant. Nice arguments, maybe cartoons should try harder if they want people to think they are more than calarts shit.

>>149281231
>Too many anime fights are just noisy spectacle made to pad out the page count or episode run time.
Most cartoon fights are absolutely garbage as well. Still the best of anime are in different tier compared to cartoons ones.
>>149285731
Based.

>>149285731
>Shin poly ear
What?

>>149285821
>the exaggerated swagger of a turtle teen

>>149287234
He probably wanted to write4 Shin polymear.

>>149279871 (OP)
> Choreography : the sequence of steps and movements...
It's flashy animation. Not a choreography.

how little must you have going on in your life to go to a western comics and cartoons board when you don't even like comics or cartoons?
must be a toonami or death battle tard

TMNT 2003 has good action but it's restrained a bit with Raph and Leo not being able to fully use their swords and having to constantly just use their weapons to block or parry then kicking or whatever.
It's not as bad as Raph throwing his sais to pin a guy against a wall by his jacket like in the 1987 cartoon but it's still lame.

>>149287284
Are you dumb? What if I liked comics and cartoons but not as much as other things. Do you only eat your favorite food?

>>149279871 (OP)
Man I love Flying Bark's animation

Btw anyone here knows if Monkie Kid will get more episodes? It's been a drought since season 6 has hinted like 2 years ago.

>>149281559
Is the dialogue on the right real holy shit it's insulting

>>149287284
I watch cartoons for the comedy. Japanese humor is shit. I watch anime for action and adventures. Western action is boring.

>>149281846
Fight scenes build visual interest with positioning and choreography. It’s a conversation between two people using their body as a form of expression. If you can kill someone instantly from 30 feet away and be anywhere on an XYZ plane then you can’t do either and there’s no interest.

>>149287414
Raph doesn't have swords. He has sai. A sai is NOT supposed to be sharp, it's a pronged baton that can be used for catching and locking thin clubs, or the blades of swords so the other sai can be used to attack the wielder or break the blade...but white people don't often bother with accuracy when they take stuff from other cultures. Now we have MILLIONS of western idiots thinking sai are daggers of some kind thanks to Eastman and Laird, and whoever created Marvel's Elektra.

>>149285821
Everybody goes n about this fight, but it was one of the most garbage, actually. The animation team didn't know how to animate roundhouse kicks, spinning hook kicks, or side kicks. This is why all you see are clumsy-looking front kicks...and even a REALLY goofy-looking SPINNING front kick.

>>149287510
I never understood: why misspell "monkey"? Like kids don't have shitty enough educations already thanks to the Board of (mis)Education, now they think monkie/monkies is a word.

>>149279871 (OP)
It's not even technically impressive.

>>149279871 (OP)
Post 2010s Anime

>>149279871 (OP)
I’d call it unoriginal. The scene is obviously lifting from a bunch of anime scenes without developing them into the shows story in a natural way.
For example that eye wagging scene that’s obviously lifted from Naruto. It works there because it’s Madara using his bullshit eyes, a pre-established ability, to scan an entire army and react to their movements.
Taking that scene and just plopping it into your show because it looks cool just feels lazy and pandering.

>>149284943
People meme about the charging up amd trash talk because they knew the actual fighting would be awesome and they were impatient to get to it

>skauga

>>149287876
The 2017 Goemon's Blood Spray Lupin movie has way better choreography than this shit

>>149287842

>>149287414
>>149287783
I never like this stupid fan theory that weapons are tailored to their personalities and weaknesses. They're fucking ninjas, combat pragmatists. They may be proficient with one weapon, but that doesn't mean they aren't skilled with others.

>>149287777
>If you can kill someone instantly from 30 feet away and be anywhere on an XYZ plane then you can’t do either and there’s no interest.
I get it. You don't like fiction. What are you doing here?

>>149280749
Look up a guy called Sensible Saiyan on YouTube. You'll appreciate just how much work went into those fights and why people enjoyed them so much, even if they couldn't properly verbalize it.

>>149288273
>You'll appreciate just how much work went into those fights
He wouldn't. Those people think the ideal fight between guys with super powers is Superman and Mongul fighting slower than irl boxers. It's really sad.

>>149288204
Michelangelo disproves the master-of-only-one-weapon shit in numerous iterations (2k3, Last Ronin, and one ep in a series, I don't remember which, where his brothers were all captured and he's using all their dropped weapons like a fuckin pro on the way to break them out. I think the kiddie tmnt (2012) had the turtles switch weapons and everybody's just at a fucking loss, which would be bullshit. Splinter trained them in all the weapons he had available, and they each chose the weapon they preferred.

My hero academia killed fight choreography in shounen

>>149288397
>2012
>kiddie
You 2003fags are cancer

>>149287842
I have no awareness of this show other than the clip posted but it is obvious to me the title is a pun on "monk" and "monkey".

>>149285900

>>149288397
I remember some episodes where 2012 Splinter told the turtles "We're a ninja, we should fight to win, not fairness" "If you want hurt your enemy, then you should do a lot of damage"

https://youtu.be/BwKd_T3aWpA?si=GWN2gRvKHdosYcRF

https://youtu.be/qNTmT177Edo?si=A79fQ9A_10BB7RtY

>>149288678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMmcemZ1l3A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUw55rnjoe8

>>149281434
>>149285771
>he's still shilling his worthless garbage
LMAO!

>>149281032
>western
>>149281296
>western
>>149285771
>western
>>149285889
>western

i'm glad that at least in this east vs west thread, people are posting counter-examples instead of just letting japanese faggots shittalk cartoons as usual.

I don't care for fights that have no weight to the characters. The second people start flying around like kung fu fleas I stop caring.

>>149288397
>tmnt (2012) had the turtles switch weapons and everybody's just at a fucking loss, which would be bullshit
That was the point of the episode you moron. Splinter was teaching them to be less dependent on 1 weapon type and branch out. And later in the series they do use different things.

>>149288902
What examples, some capeshit? Anyways my post was regarding paneling, and animation doesn't have paneling dumbfuck.

>>149279871 (OP)
guys look i made batman vs superman it looks really impressive and cooooool

>>149288944
So what are your favorite cartoons then?

>>149288944
I feel like if a fight scene has to resort to martial arts, it has to be something along the lines of practical shit like boxing, Muay Thai, wrestling for grappling (freestyle or greco-roman are optimal) aka styles that are actually useful IRL. Plus there should be a sense of struggle, I hate it when shit feels weightless.
Anything else looks fucking corny. And that's a big reason why animated fights suck.

>>149288997
>some capeshit?
is that supposed to prove you right? if i call your anime shit "shonenshit" that will invalidate them?
>and animation doesn't have paneling dumbfuck.
then why did you bring up japanese comics in a thread about western animation, fucktard?

>>149289028
>is that supposed to prove you right? if i call your anime shit "shonenshit" that will invalidate them?
Capeshit is just shit by default.
>then why did you bring up japanese comics in a thread about western animation, fucktard?
Are you blind or retarded? Someone mentioned the fucking subject of the thread was inspired by DBZ. I didn't bring them up, I just responded to a post.

>>149288902
YES, western since we are in a thread about western cartoons and animu have a long history of dark action ovas to pull stuff from. Also you decided to make it EvsW since people were just mentioning how Rise is trying to imitate some anime and failing to do so. Were they not supposed to mention that?

>>149289052
>Capeshit is just shit by default.
shonen is also shit by default.
>Are you blind or retarded? Someone mentioned the fucking subject of the thread was inspired by DBZ. I didn't bring them up, I just responded to a post.
noone mentioned comic paneling, the post you replied to was talking about the animation. you wanted to shit on western comics while pretending to stay on topic, hoping noone will notice.

>>149289090
>shonen is also shit by default.
Ok, who cares? Faggots have mentioned non-shonen in this thread anyway.
>noone mentioned comic panelin
Are you dumb? He said that "The flow of action is smooth and legible" which is a result of good paneling(something capeshit rarely if ever manages to achieve).
>you wanted to shit on western comics while pretending to stay on topic, hoping noone will notice.
Lol, everyone shits on western comics all the time, Idc if people notice.

>>149289080
>YES, western since we are in a thread about western cartoons
every post i quoted generalized western content to claim it's inferior to japanese ones.
>Also you decided to make it EvsW
every post i quoted generalized western content to claim it's inferior to japanese ones.
half the thread is "animes are better" but sure i was the one who made it EvsW by posting western videos.

>>149288694
Gee Togashi why do you get to have 2 good adaptations.

>>149281032
https://youtu.be/8i2eMjhIAW0?si=dKxdrUqWcua4wfcf

https://youtu.be/x7ClCnalUqM?si=9pPg8fIH4Eo-449w

Btw I don't even hate Soul Eater

>>149287671
fair ‘nuff

>>149288902
i see a nipple
MOOOOOOOOODS

>>149289027
>In cartoons characters should die when a piano is dropped on them or when they smoke a stick of dynamite like a cigar.
Like I said earlier any discussion about action brings out autistic fuckwits like you talking out of their ass about a half baked understanding of cinematography and martial arts.

>>149289172
>video unavailable
Anyways, judging by the thumbnail, is that fight which was pretty good.

>>149289208
>but what about muh slapstick that has nothing to do with anything and isn't liked by anybody who isn't older than 5 or in arrested development?
>it totally relates to quality of fight scenes
You are a fucking retard and the reason animated fights are trash. Fucks like you deserve all the girlbosses and all the other unrealistic crap plaguing fiction.
>and martial arts
Oh, kek. It's one of those retards who believes martial arts are anything but snake oil, lmao.

>>149289172
Holy fucking shit, what cringeworthy garbage.
Weebs really have no taste or standards.

>>149289256
https://youtu.be/pr0ZeltsXuA?si=Ve3OFVCmsR1Dtm4E

https://youtu.be/BnPU8GCSgM8?si=VKyo76Mqovis3_BB

>>149289256
Nice cope, post the western cartoon series with those "standards".

>>149289280
Standards of what? A boring piece of crap with a dumb whore jumping around? Lmao, that's considered a good fight scene by weeb retards.
Looney Tunes did decades ago, lmfao.
>c-c-cope
You're the only one coping, retarded faggot.

>>149289280
https://youtu.be/Txl2imn11bM?si=eir94iqqn-8qtHAr


https://youtu.be/M9HBwtK6uvE?si=4vTrb7NAGV0VSURz

https://youtu.be/1vEeQ-vGrgY?si=x6pEvFO5aWoEXRPa

Let me help you out fellow anon

>>149289273
Holy boring shit.
>>149289307
>all awful trash
Just post hand with a timestamp already.

>>149289290
>Looney Tunes did decades ago, lmfao.
>still the same boring gags again and again, not even a fight
Also, kek you are fuming with rage. I asked you to post something good, you retard. Also funny how the best western animation is stuff from 60 years ago.

>>149288944
Why can't you answer >>149289020? I am curious what satisfies your standards since I can maybe recommend you something.

>>149289328
Plus, ohkubo himself is a massive westaboo himself

>>149289328
>seething weebcuck accuses others of seething
>still not posting its hand
Makes you wonder...

>>149289354
I asked you to post something good, yet you've posted pure slop. Also you asked the youtube spammer to post his hand, not me schizo lol.

ignore weebs, post western fights.

>>149289290
>looney trunes
>good

>>149289373
I've posted nothing but laughing at your trash anime, you retarded subhuman.
And nobody cares for your excuses, post your brown hand already.

>>149289391
>I've posted nothing
I asked you for a good cartoon and the example you've given was pure slop and now you are having a melty since everyone is laughing at your slop, you dumb cuck.

>>149279871 (OP)
>fight choreography
That would involve actually choreographing a fight instead of just drawing random lightning bolts and not bothering to draw any of the participating characters throughout the fight.

Okay, i'll bite. What's "technically impressive" about a few lighting and dust effects? That's probably the easiest thing in the world to animate besides a bouncing ball. The ball might be harder, actually.

>>149289401
>example
Not my fault you're a retarded subhuman too dumb to understand when it's being mocked and think Looney Tunes is a genuine example of anything.
Let me make things really simple for you.
The shitty clip you posted and were so proud of is abysmal garbage and you're an idiot who should perforate your own skull with .357 Magnum. Simple enough to understand or do I need to resort to babytalk, you retarded brown methhead?
>everyone is laughing at your slop
You're retarded and mentally ill, lmao.

>>149289242
>It's one of those retards who believes martial arts are anything but snake oil
Martial arts means WAR arts. Any technique created for combat is martial arts. Only complete midwits dismiss entire styles as worthless instead taking the useful bits and pieces and adapting them. Autists like you can only think in terms of all or nothing because you haven't actually made anything you just regurgitate opinions from other comment sections. There are good and bad realistic scene the same as fantasy ones.

>>149289451
>Looney Tunes is a genuine example of anything.
I've asked you to name a standard and you've named some of the worst slop ever. SO do you also think looney tunes is slop? Good.
>The shitty clip you posted
Quote me and that guy and I'll post the screenshot in a second retard. I am not him, you absolute schizo faggot.

>>149285674
This and really based. I wish we had a western cartoon equivalent.

>>149281231
>entire minute of superkike wailing on generic bad guy for the 200th time with 0 actual back and forward

>>149289465
>noo gay faggotry like aikido or wing chun is totally useful
Just shut the fuck up already and go back to whatever McDojo you crawled out of, you loser.
>There are good and bad realistic scene the same as fantasy ones.
I don't give a shit about your lecture, I stated my preference. You chose to whine like a faggot you are.
>>149289484
I don't care for your low IQ meltdown, monkey. Nor do I care which monkey you are. Post your hand with a timestamp and shut the fuck up, you embarrassing soifaggot.

>>149289568
>repeating like a parrot after I called out his meltdown
Lol. Anyways looney tunes is garbage and I will continue making threads shitting on all this /co/ shit.

>>149281032
It's not even about martial fights scenes, even in gun fights, anime are vastly superior.

>>149289590
>n-no u
>illiterate seething
Really makes you wonder about its complexion.

You know what, I've had enough.
Redpill me on this permaseething weeb troon.
He seems to be whining in every thread relating to western fight scenes, but refuses to fuck off to /a/.

>>149288434
Besides the cheesecake, I really love how they move like professional wrestlers with superpowers

>>149289642
I don't even care about you looney tuneslopper. I am here to make fun of shit like this, you were the one that got angry when I've asked you to name good western cartoons.

>>149289377
This looks like absolute ass

>>149289648
Are you asking about >>149289242? he is right, western cartoon suck ass since they don't have realistic choreography.

And you can tell it's the same person because he types like a fucking crackhead.
Guess that would make sense since shonentards all live in countries with cocaine trade-based economy, lmao.
>>149289669
>>149289684
Kek, you can't help yourself with your seething, monkey.
Looks like I was right on the money, troon.

>>149289691
>being this delusional
Anyways, next time don't mention that slop and I won't call you out lol.

>>149288204
>only manages 19 with a 100-round magazine

>>149289627
Bang.

>>149281404
Lame because Superman is invulnerable and basically didn't get hurt.

>>149289708
>the absolute irony of that statement
Lmao.
Post your hand, monkey.

>>149289770
>the irony being that you mentioned looney trunes and you got made fun of
Yeah, it sucks to be you.

>>149289802
>still seething incoherently
You've been crying like a bitch you are because I called out your gay weeb trash.
And you're still too cowardly to post your hand. Saw a webm, a very funny one. With some mexican getting his dick and balls bitten off by an angry dog.
Was it you? Would explain a lot about you, lmao.

if you want a proper thread to discuss evsw in good faith, try >>149289766

>>149289813
>projection
You were the one that got mindbroken by this post >>149289290
> With some mexican getting his dick and balls bitten off by an angry dog.
That sounds like your father lmao.

>>149285737
>>149285900
Lame, due to the fights not being over by superior characters ending it in 1 second.

>>149289862
>more incoherent monkey rambling
Post. Hand. Coward.

>>149279871 (OP)
Fake anime by people who don't understand it

>>149289860
Good job, retard.
Guess where all the East vs. West retards will flock now.

>>149287510
Sonic ass looking shit.

>>149285471
>>149285480
>>149285484
>>149285488
This shit is so fucking garbage

>>149288434
This fight sucked too.

>>149289961
You aren't allowed to say that here

>Mexico ranks eighth in Soibean processing and Basedbean oil production and is the ninth largest producer of Soibean meal in the world. Soibean meal represents 64% of the country's protein meals. Soibeans account for 70% of the total volume of oilseeds processed in Mexico.
That unironically explains what kind of fags look at this
>>149289172
>>149289273
>>149289307
shit and think it's even remotely "cool". Hell, the weebcuck screeching here, defending weeb crap like a neckbeard would a m'lady is a literal personification of a soi wojack.

>>149289199
now you see balls too.
had to cut it to fit in 2 mins, for some reason there are some freeze frames at the cuts.
>>149289672
>if it looks better than anime it looks ass
okay weeb.

>>149290030
>fighting a fucking bull
Unrealistic dogshit. Nice facial expressions but the rest is pretty meh.

>>149282051
God, this looks awful.
It's like somebody animated turn-based gameplay completely unironically.

>>149290055
Still better than anything from the DCAU. Also,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZD79TmPLXo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj4mt13uLuE

>>149290098
Nah, it's still gay shit.
Marvel never had a good cartoon.

>>149290106
>X-Men
>Spider-man Tas
>Spectacular Spider-Man
>Avengers EMG

>>149281231
>Justice League/DCAU is better

Bro, no its not. Fucking Bleach fights are better than Justice League.

>>149290120
>X-Men
Awful. X-shit is a blight and all X-fags are mongoloids.
>Spider-Man TAS
Mostly good stories, awful fight scenes and censorship cripples it.
>Spectacular
Ugly as fuck artstyle.
>Avengers
Boring and lame

>>149290047
>Unrealistic dogshit.
you realize that's the point? he is an inhumanly strong guy who has to conceal his identity after carelessly killing a person with it. it's based on a narrative poem from 1846, before superheroes with this shtick existed.

>>149279871 (OP)
There's nothing "technical" about it, retard OP. It's drawn, this isn't live action where choreography matters.

>>149290137
>Ugly as fuck artstyle
Get better taste
>Boring and lame
Go rewatch JL. It's one of the most boring cape cartoons ever. At least EMH had action and good villains.

>>149290030
>if it looks better than anime it looks ass
It doesn't fucking look better than anime. It's somehow slow, unimaginative, and at time overanimated.

>east vs west shitflinging thread
>/a/ fags come here to shit on western stuff and suck off their own mediocre shit
>"you're not breaking any rules"
>insult weebs
>NOOO YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO DISCUSS WESTERN STUFF
And that's not counting one time I got this kind of a ban for discussing western stuff.
I'm so tired of fucktardo the mod over here, I hope he gets killed.

>>149290321
What post got deleted? The one that posted the marvel stuff, this one >>149290098?

>>149290340
This one
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/149279871/#149290016
Weebs can shit all over western animation non-stop, but I can't insult the weebshit because it "breaks the rules"?
Mods are clearly fucking playing favorites and it's tiresome.

>>149290226
>It's somehow slow
because it's not forced to be fast-paced, waiting for your opponent's move makes is more natural, especially against animals
>unimaginative
how the fuck is it unimaginative when it manages to cram symbolisms into a mostly realistic fight? his head turning into a wolf head, his leg turning into a bull horn, the wolf spinning in the moon, the two wolf-shaped clouds surrounding the moon like the real wolves do to him. show an anime fight with this many symbolism put into it.
>overanimated
it has no unnecessary movements, and is clearly followable, so i don't think so.

>>149289336
nta but recommend me something

>>149279871 (OP)
it's called:
>we watched a lot of shonen anime and absorbed all it's bad habits

>>149290143
>ou realize that's the point?
Then it's a dogshit fight. It looks unnatural and weird.

>>149281231
This was some crazy shit

https://youtu.be/gzpklAf89Js

>>149281231
People are impressed by this slop? SJ is like the only enjoyable action western cartoon

>>149289307
>not posting THAT one from Katanagatari
Come on man.

>>149290462
Your life is slop

>>149291023
Nice comeback, bitch

>>149281559
Dragon Ball has no fucking contact it implies it but there is none no wonder people said it inspired the OP webm.

Test

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8YQ56FPyLsY

>>149279871 (OP)
Style over substance? Keys jiggling in your face? Flashy slop?

>>149288902
>>149290030
Based

>>149290030
It just looks ass, sorry

>>149281231
I feel teen titans out did this show by a wild margin in a terms of action choreography

>>149290446
Its outdone by some one piece episode especially gear 2 debut

>>149291665

>>149291854
You are 100% right. That is why TT is bigger than JL.

post a tranime fight of this quality.

>>149292189
>even animals are made to be exaggerated garbage
Why can't cartoons do something good for once?

>>149292189
Cute>>149292211

https://youtu.be/-6nmTundSn4?si=zOaBGxTxPFEhfQky

>>149289883
>admitting he is illiterate
Lol, anyways your rage was something to behold. It's funny how you get that mad when people make fun of you slop.

>>149292313
I imagine it was pretty hard to animated both the shadows and the kicks
Kino episode.

>>149291819
i can make more videos if appreciated. (which is usually not the case)

>>149292337
>NO U
>still not posting its hand
Fucking coward
>people
First off, there's only you seething. Second, you're not "making fun" of anything. You're a subhuman weeb with unhealthy attachment to shitty jap cartoons. You're literally a mentally ill tranny-tier freak.

>>149292313
Holy cringe

>>149292313
Kino

>>149292447
>a subhuman uses a subhuman buzzword
Typical.

>>149279888
What would happen if he didn't dodge the tsai and got stabbed in the head?

>>149292313
Really good but the best has to be that one from the movie

>>149279871 (OP)
anime trash. made to wow teenagers with flash, zero substance.

>>149281231
This shit feels weightless as well. This board has such a low iq that even slop like this satisfies it. At least post something good next time.

>>149289442
If not the animation or filmmaking, what technique IS broadly appealing to people about these spectacle shots? Is it the artist’s sense of timing? Composition?

>>149292313
>this corny garbage
This is what moronic weebs are dicksucking here? Holy shit, just euthanize these animals already. Not like anybody would mourn them.

>>149292662
>corny
a hip hop fan, cringe. i bet this fucker walks around with jerri curl while being laughed at everyone around them, baka

>>149292779
Your kind wouldn't know this because there are no white people where you live, but blacks didn't invent the word "corny".
Anyway, I hope Trump nukes your shithole regardless.

>>149292364
It was digital too!

>>149292189
Animal fights are cheating let's be real here.
You're right though the lighting here has never been matched.

>>149293130
>Animal fights are cheating let's be real here.
why? because the japanese can't rotoscope it? or because the japanese can only draw generic humans and only in one style?

>>149279871 (OP)
cool as shit

>>149287173
What is this?

>>149289651
The belly-to-belly behind-the-back arm-bar into a German suplex was pretty fucking kino. The knee to the face into an elbow drop was good but there is no real comparison. I wish they had showed a wider shot of that suplex, really sell the swing of it.

>>149279871 (OP)
Choreography is more than just animation.

>>149280568
>>149280721
DBS fights definitely bad especially the ones that people say are good. The Zamasu arc felt like watching a multi-stage boss battle that activates after a health bar is depleted.

>>149292471
Its titled after a film.

>>149294478
Anon is implying that Russians are subhuman, so therefore the Russian-derived term is subhuman. Anon presumably knew where it came from.

>>149279871 (OP)
>Technically impressive, but not genuine engaging.
That is never the case. Those fights have always been poorly choreographed.

>>149292662
White girls would

>>149288413
That shit stings, doesn't it? Tough.

>>149294682
https://youtu.be/cd7fEl_Bnw0

>>149281231
Justice League sucked compared to Batman and Superman TAS because they were animated in Japan and JL wasn't.

>>149288521
That second quote was more like "Do no harm. Unless you INTEND to do harm. In which case, you should do LOTS of harm!" Honestly, aside from the dialogue, I really couldn't stand the 2012 version. The cheap cgi, the crappy designs for most of the characters.And Craig "testicles haven't descended yet" Cipes made it worse.

>>149290349
The weebs have actual arguments and the toonphiles are just screaming mindless cope insults is why

>>149294682
There is so much bad about that I don't even know where to begin

cool speed scene

>>149287671
>Japanese humor is shit
You don't laugh when a guy falls over and lands on a girl's tits and she gets mad and punches him hard enough to make him fly off into the sky?

>>149296539
LOL

>>149292189
Akira mogs the shit out of this in terms of direction.
>>149293590
>or because the japanese can only draw generic humans and only in one style?
You are disingenuous you fucking retard, there are plenty of animal anime and most cartoons are just generic comedies.

>>149292535
This one? Yeah it's really good, better than everything else posted itt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utLWiscq8d4

>>149279871 (OP)
That's not technically impressive either.

>>149281032
this
>>149281231
lol no

>>149296812
Fantastic. Why can't cartroons take inspiration from this?

>>149292189
https://youtu.be/RzClCJFpSoM?si=XKQbPhPcgi6z50tb

>>149279871 (OP)
I call it tryhard faggotry that wants you to think they're as good and as cool as anime. They're obviously trying to show how fucking cool and strong and powerful their characters are, but they are creatively bankrupt, so instead they just do that DBZ thing that everyone always mocks because it was a budget trick, not an actual cool moment that people liked when the fight was reduced to blurs and flashes of light.

>>149296044
>that level of delusion
About what I expected of weebtroons, now kill yourself subhuman.

>>149296532
>>149294682
Holy fuck, western animation is so garbage

>>149285821
>My current thought is that Rise is really...try-hard about it. Having a swagger that isn't there.
This is the exact problem with the entire series. It presents and carries itself like you already love it, like you already think the turtles are the coolest, funniest, most badass characters, and that everything they're doing is really exciting and interesting..... and it's really fucking not any of those things. It's a bunch of obnoxious retarded shit that stops and mugs at the camera after shitting it's pants.

>>149296812
>>149296870
>cringeworthy retarded kung fu garbage with weightless hits
This may just be the most awful thing I've seen this whole week. And I thought weebs couldn't get any more retarded, but then they suck off this slop.

>>149297035
Tbh, every western fight posted itt is slop so that gets point for being cel animated at least.

>>149296968
nta but you literally proved that guy was right.

>>149293590
This is really low effort. Only /co/ troons could enjoy this. Kill yourself slop eater.

>>149297035
>REEEEEE ANIME REEEE
Why should anyone care about your faggoty opinion when you're seething this much just because anime exists and people like it?

>>149292189
Literally every fight ever. Even shounenshit is better than that absolute slop only enjoyed by imbeciles.

It's impossible for /co/ to stop crying over anime, it's amazing.

At least no one has posted avatar the shitbender with the faggot cucky aang. That has to be the worst shit ever in terms of fights completely stolen from anime.

>>149297096

>>149297082
>>149297071
>>149297054
>worthless weeb seething
Go troon out and 41% already.
Maybe this board would improve.
>>149297064
>even more delusions
Kill yourself.

>>149297109
Reddit literally fellates that garbage show, you retard.

>>149297118
Instantly screaming about trannies doesn't help your case, retard.

>>149297118
>Maybe this board would improve.
This board would improve if they started making good cartoons like back in the 1930s not this wishy washy slop like in the op. The quality of the board is proportional with the quality of the media.

>>149297122
>>149297118
stop crying, nobody cares about your opinion.

>>149287975
It's not sakuga, people miss use the term worse than people miss use "waifu"

>>149297140
Kill yourself, reddit.

>>149297134
>in the 1930
Lmao
>>149297130
>NOOOO DON'T BRING UP TRANNIES IN MY CANCEROUS EAST VS WEST THREAD NOOO
Go die already, you worthless piece of shit.
>>149297140
Oh, the irony.

>I hate western animation
>I don't go to /a/
>I come to /co/ to seethe about it and suck off awful weeb trash
What is this mental illness called?

>>149279871 (OP)
>DBZ in my Ninja Turtle cartoon
I'm done

>>149297157
>Lmao
What's so funny? 1930-1950 was the last time cartoons could be called art.

>>149297164
>>I hate western animation
If it stopped being garbage I would like it. I haven't posted anything /a/ related. I am here exactly because I am disappointed with western animation being such garbage. Maybe you are a zoomer but at some point cartoons could be somewhat good and now they are nothing but slop.

>animation nerds bickering over what good fight choreography
Live action bros... I have to go all out, just this once...
https://youtu.be/s17AOzl52R8?si=5DWN-amI-f_-f8dq

>>149279871 (OP)
Holy slop, this is utter trash.

>>149297004
are you comparing them or did you think my hero academia was western animation?

>>149297154
>>149297157
>>149297164
lmao you're pathetic
>>149297212
We were talking about animation, Redditor

>>149284943
>Frankly if you ask me the fact that the only thing anyone can remember about DBZ is people yelling and charging up
did you even watch dbz

>>149297236
This is pretty decent even though the animator has never seen a gun fired before.

>>149297173
Hahaha, he actually believes that.
>>149297190
I don't give a fuck, retard. Fuck off back to /a/.
>>149297240
>even more irony

>>149297212
Be careful, you'll trigger the weebs.
Last time I got one seething over a fight scene in Olboy of all things. You know, one of the most famous and beloved fight scenes in cinema's history to the point that it's been known and referenced more than the movie itself at this point?
It caused a weeb retard so much butthurt, he kept crying how it's "shit" lmao.

>>149297263
>Hahaha, he actually believes that.
Prove me wrong then. Post a good cartoon made after that period.

>>149297263

>>149297276
Check my proof right down your throat
>>149297277
>redditor reaction image
As expected of a seething weeb subhuman.

>>149297275
> You know, one of the most famous and beloved fight scenes in cinema's history
not even close

>>149297263
Then I don't care either. I will keep complaining about the state of modern cartoons until the trannies in charge actually put some effort into changing them. Why would I even use /a/ when the only anime I know are the ones from my childhood?

>>149297289
>redditor reaction image
It doesn't exist, they can't do that.

>>149297276
He can't because you are right. Compare the shit in the op with a bugs bunny short and you can see why no one takes modern cartoons seriously.

>>149289860
Why did this thread have to die? It was actually discussing the shortcoming of western animation compared to eastern one in a civilized manner.

>>149297297
>this level of seething delusion
Pfffthahahahahaha. Holy fucking shit, we've reached levels of delusion that didn't seem to be possible.
>>149297298
>>149297314
>muh shitty 30 garbage
No one cares.
>>149297312
You would know, redditor.

>>149297314
>implying I even watch modern cartoons like the one in the op
But yeah. What's sad is that at some point cartoons were for the whole family but now they are only for children and manchildren

>>149297347
>No one cares.
You seem to do. If the 30s were shit then what was a good period for cartoons?
>>149297351
I don't blame you, I only watch cartoons maybe once or twice per year nowadays. I've mostly moved to superior media. /co/ seems to be stuck in the manchild phase that's why they only discuss crap like owl house.

>>149297374
Owlshitters made me lose faith in cartroons.

>>149297374
>I only watch cartoons maybe once or twice per year nowadays.
Based. We really need a retro cartoon board, I am tired of this garbage place

Jonny Quest had some pretty cool fight scenes considering the limitations

>>149297421
>tfw ever modern cartoon gets mogged by this
Grim

>>149279871 (OP)
I believe these days people call this sort of thing "slop", "soulless" and "looks like AI".

>>149297347
>muh delusion
If you think this movie is mainstream you're a retard, Redditor.

>>149297421
Jonny Quest was the pinnacle of TV animation at the time.

>>149297468
Yes, moron. The fight scene is well known even by the normies who have never seen the movie itself and has been referenced plenty of times in other works. You can cry like a bitch about it all you want (AKA the only thing you know how to do), but that won't change this fact.
>n-n-no u
Best you can shit out?

>>149297421
>>149297431
The subtle movements Race makes in the shot where he's knocking over the drums is so fucking cool. I wish I could animate something like that.
There's another episode where Race is fighting this sumo wrestler but I didn't think you guys wanted to see a fat Japanese guy

>>149297503
>Yes, moron. The fight scene is well known even by the normies who have never seen the movie itself
No, completely false

>>149297157
>REEEE I'M NOT THE CANCER YOU ARE!!
Doing a really great job proving yourself to be an insufferable retarded faggot. Touch brass.

>>149297503
>>149297516
>>n-n-no u
besides I never did that.

>thread devolves into shitflinging
I'd rather watch OP's webm by this point than trying to read typical thread bullshit

>>149297570
yeah

>>149297516
Whatever helps you cry less.
>>149297544
>>149297551
>even more crying and whining
Just blow your brains out already.

>>149297643
try to say it without crying next time, idiot.

>>149297570
But the op webm is pure slop.

>>149297671
>n-no u
Lmao?

>>149279871 (OP)
It engaged me

Idk what you talking about dog

>>149297082
>we cry about anime
Watch this, screencap it, its going to make even the mods rage

Anime fans are all pedophiles and Japenese culture as a whole, is faggoty, pedophillic, and beta. Also Japanese people CAN'T fight to begin with, karate is a scam that doesn't work, and they're all under five foot, literal midgets by American standard.

>>149292837
You hope Trump nukes America?

Only rap faggots say "corny". Rockers call things "gay" or "niggery"

>>149297951
>fist part of the post
Based.
>second part
Cringe. You're the exact type of person who allowed faggots to usurp the rainbow.

>>149297951
Cartoon fags in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

>>149298038
If you listen to rap you're black, or a nonblack who looks up to blacks. Not only is your taste garbage, but you're a fukkking cuck.

>>149298069
That has nothing to do with anything I said, you namefaggot.
For me it's European dark folk anyway.

>>149290360
>because it's not forced to be fast-paced, waiting for your opponent's move makes is more natural, especially against animals
Waiting doesn't mean slow dipshit.
>how the fuck is it unimaginative when it manages to cram symbolisms into a mostly realistic fight? his head turning into a wolf head, his leg turning into a bull horn, the wolf spinning in the moon, the two wolf-shaped clouds surrounding the moon like the real wolves do to him.
That's another thing. The symbolism makes the fight incoherent. Outside of the batshit part, the fight proper is unimaginative though.
>it has no unnecessary movements
Hard disagree, the multiple steps without stance changes are stupid. Just makes the dude look jittery.

Oh, also the fight loses track of the pups and the 2nd wolf isn't properly introduced and the part where it's just a close up of the wolf biting repeatedly without the dude even in frame is stupid.

>>149297677
Well then what does it say about this thread if he would knowing eat slop rather than engage with it?

>>149297839
>>149297951
>they are still crying

>>149279871 (OP)
As someone who unironically liked Rise, the fight was like that because they were running out of budget.

>>149298941
Okay, that makes sense.

>>149298059
Lol every show here is more manly than twink tranime, get fucked minority/lgbt pedo

>>149298962
>posting nothing but slop
This is the 3x3 that cartroons fans can gather?

>>149298962
The only series on this list that are worth watching are animated by Japanese.

>>149279888
Looks ass, bro.

>>149299024
I felt the transition from triangle choke to powerbomb worked well

>shouting "all cartoons are shit" on a comics and cartoon board of all places over and over, derailing the thread into an unbearable east vs west cancer? Not trolling
>insulting obnoxious weebs? Trolling.
No bias whatsoever.
Jannoid the trannoid is not even trying to be subtle anymore.
Kill yourself, you niggerfaggot.

>>149298985
The only good anime is Cowboy Bebop, and all other decent anime like Guyver, Vampire Hunter D, Ninja Scroll, Bubblegum Crisis, Genocyber etc, is purely niche schlock or genre fans, no actual value other than style

>>149299251
I don't care about your garbage taste. Everything you've posted is slop.
>The only good anime is Cowboy Bebop,
So you admit it's better than all the garbage you've posted? Good. Next time post non-slop shit.

>>149299268
No, Cowboy Bebop is better than all other anime. It's not better than even shit Western shows, because it was made by non whites.

>>149299204
>>shouting "all cartoons are shit" on a comics and cartoon board
Tbh, that's kind true. All the ones I've tried were garbage.

>>149299285
Nobody cares about you, fuck off.

>>149299279
Ok then name those good western cartoons because you've only named slop until now
> because it was made by non whites.
None of the people working on the slop you've mentioned deserve to be called "white".

>>149298962
>all the cartoons he likes are cgi garbage and shit made for retarded children
Yeah, it's over.

>>149299296
Beast Wars, Batman, and Gargoyles are better than ALL anime. Disagree? You're not white. But that's obvious, you're a foreign tiny dicked Asian cuck who's women sleep with me, not you.

>>149299290
Lol, cope. Cartroons are garbage slop made by retard that die 1 by 1. Every time there is a /co/ sticky I laugh knowing that 1 more cartroon or capeshitter has died. All those hacks had the chance to make good stuff but they wasted in making the most trash imaginable.

>>149299308
>Beast Wars, Batman, and Gargoyles
Holy shit what's that slop only liked by browns? Imagine liking that garbage. Might as well kill yourself since you don't deserve to live you absolute subhuman moron. You chose the most garbage shit ever made as the best cartoons? Kek.

>>149299318
Japanese are autistic incel bugs. Sorry for your life

>>149299325
>Yellow piss smelling Jap complains about browns to put himself on a level with Caucasoids, despite being Mongoloid
Lmfao, YWNBW

>>149299308
>Beast Wars
Garbage animation, retarded writing, braindead characters.
>BTAS
The sloppiest slop to ever exist, imagine unironically watching capeshit, are you 3?
>Gargoyles
Forgettable slop that gets worse as the seasons go on.

>>149299329
I don't care about anime either. But keep coping, another /co/ hack is about to die and I will be laughing lol.

>>149299340
Based
>>149299339
This smells like projection. How about you post your own hand? Only chinks like animation anyways so I am suspecting you are one yourself.

>>149299308
Batman and Gargoyles were animated by Japanese.

>>149299340
You're a nonwhite beta lmao, Japs at this point are worse than blacks with the self importance, go to fukkking tumblr closet homo

>>149299345
Ok Chang

>>149299360
>wall of seethe because I criticized his beloved slop
Cope, lol.

>>149299359
Yeah slave labor, all they should ever get to do, animate as slaves for talented Western writers

Not a single Japanese movie is worth watching, nor book for reading, etc etc, they can't write because of autism

>>149299365
>animate as slaves for talented Western writers
Talented western writers don't work on cartoonslop, they write books you absolute retard.

>>149299360
>no hand
Ok, pussy. Now I know for sure the kind of subhuman you are.

>>149299365
>/co/pe

>>149279871 (OP)
Holy shit, nu-cartoons are such slop

>>149299370
And less talented writers work on tranime. Because it's all style over substance garbage. Sorry, but you're beta and a loser. You got nuked by my country and now you suck our assholes begging for us to love you while raging inside, total cuckoldry

I got news for you, the biggest tranime fans in the US aren't affluent white people, they're poor mexicans and blacks lmfao, join your kin, you're not white

>>149294758
I'm not sure what point you trying to make but not engaging fights is a result of bad fight choreography. I mean hypothetically you can have the shittest story with top tier fights but that is just a cope for homos who like the shitty fights in Castlevania & DBS. Whenever people insist that the fights are reason enough to watch the show, I expect the Raid.

>>149296418
Isaac is canonically physically weaker than Hector and 1/3 of Carmilla strength.

Shut the fuck up, weeb tranny.

>>149299385
>my shit is better than you shit
LMAO? All writers in animation are slop. Also nice projection but you first post was from 4 hours ago when it was around 2:00 in America so unless you stayed up that late you are not American. Until you post your hand everyone will continue thinking you are a subhuman.

>>149299397
>Also nice projection but you first post was from 4 hours ago when it was around 2:00 in America so unless you stayed up that late you are not American
Do you not see my name? I don't work an office job you cuck. I've been up all night drinking and banging

>>149299397
>m 4 hours ago when it was around 2:00 in America
>he is so mad that people made fun of his cartroons he stayed up all night
could be possible

>>149299402
Kek, true

>>149299400
>Do you not see my name?
Faggot, the retard? Anyways if you want people to take you seriously stop sucking off absolute slop like btas next time ok? Start reading books for once if you want good writing.

>>149299410
Books are for nerds. I only read non fiction articles about predatory animals and WWII other than shit I grew up with because I like to remember the WHITE America before Asian bugs infested culture with absolute dogshit like Pokemon and Dbz

>>149299419
>other than shit I grew up
You should leave those cartroons behind since they are pure slop. You are old enough for that, correct?

>>149299435
Still better than tranime and I don't do art films. Pretentiousness is a defense mechanism of the beta male, aka you. Robocop is the greatest movie of all time, not some faggot shit

Don't engage namefaggots. They're probably just AI bots.

>>149299461
They are both the same shit. They are pure slop.
>Pretentiousness
You don't need to be pretentious to not be slop.
> Robocop is the greatest movie of all time, not some faggot shit
Finally you mention something good Robocop mogs the shit out of slop like btas.

>the namefaggot is somehow less of a retarded cunt than the whiny faggot weeb
Impressive.

>>149299472
Kys, catroontranny.

>seething weebtroon response
Just slash your throat, loser. Nobody's gonna mourn you.

>>149299479
>t.

Incels are pathetic

>>149299486
Just like nobody mourns every pathetic /co/ creators when he/she dies like a bitch? Lmao.

>>149299466
>Robocop mogs the shit out of slop like btas.
This, /co/ was shilling btas like crazy and then I gave it a chance and it was garbage. Why can't this board actually recommend non-slop cartoons? Is it so hard?

Also worth pointing out, the hatred for Beast Wars is especially ironic from the Jappo islander fish eating poorfag. (no people with money eat rice either).

Transformers is a series that specifically shows that Asians are shit, because every Transformers anime is about 20 times shittier and gayer than the American ones.

lol,/co/ is pathetic.

>>149299515
Well I hate it because it's cgi slop with garbage characters, animation and writing. I hate all trannyformers in general.

>>149299520
Oh, I'm /ck/ too, Japs suck at everything and are always eclipsed by the manlier nation, America

>>149299523
Food is good but cartroons are so garbage. Holy fuck, I hate them so much.

>>149299523
>all junk food
lmao

I know nobody mourns japs, lmao.
Hiroshima was hilarious, should happen again.
Too bad the kill count was low.

>>149292405
>this much cope
Multiple people have been making fun of your shitty toons but keep coping. Also nice projection but I am not the one that had a meltdown when someone made fun of my favorite cartoon lmao. You are a moron and you will always be one. Also probably a tranny like every looney trunes fan(that's why the lwhen bugs cosplays so much).

>>149299551
>literally mad because people make fun of capeshit writer number 347834783874
Kek, I don't give a fuck about japs either they can all die as well but imagine defending the jews just because they made a shitty caped faggot that you liked when you were little.

This thread shouldn't be like this.

Holy weeb seethe. Glad it hurts to make you seethe this much.
>>149299566
Maybe if mods banned weebs derailing threads instead of people calling them out, it could've been salvaged.

>>149299597
>n-no you are the mad one
Kek, why are cartroonshiiters like this?

>>149299597
The mods are weebs or asian, and all leftist cucks.

>>149279871 (OP)
>literally just some flashing lights
If you cope from the East at least copy all the fantastic stuff. These fags should be forced to watch something like Ashita no Joe.
>>149287173
The best fighting scene posted itt. The 70s version of the show is pretty good as well.

>>149299623
Also forgot to add
>>149294264
It's Shin Hurricane Polymar, a darker adaptation of a Tastunoko series from the 70s. It's rather short unfortunately.

>>149299623
This gif alone is better than most western fights.

>>149299623
Eastern fighting is bullshit. You wanna act like "i care about fighting so much ill complain about cartoons from the west and east", can you actually fight brown/yellow fag?

No, karate and martial arts in general, is bullshit. It doesn't work, the mystification has been gone forever, your culture is a lie that was created by Western interest in China to begin with that then expanded to Japan, while Asian sheisters used it to make money and tourist traps, but today, we all know martial arts is bullshit because fucking UFC exists and the only styles that actually work aren't even from Asia aside from kickboxing

>>149299642
Unfortunately yeah. Ashita no Joe was directed by Dezaki after all.

>>149299644
>that actually work aren't even from Asia aside from kickboxing

>>149299644
What are you even talking about? I posted a boxing series. You sound delusional so I won't waste my time with you.

>>149299644
>calling everyone he disagrees with brown
Post you hand already you absolute retarded namefag. You mother got raped and as a rapebaby you are constantly seething at your own muddy skin and projecting your rage. You will never be a real human being. You will always be a subhuman that worships children slop because he never had a proper childhood.

Kek, worthless weeb seethes at anybody criticizing his garbage, but cries that he's totally not mad lmao.
>>149299623
>weightless shallow trash
>best scene
Lmao.

>>149299666
>>149299653
Please don't engage with him. It would be more interesting to discuss actual fighting scenes in animation, both E and W. Are there any boxing western animated series? I've heard of a french one.

>>149299666
Only asians and black aren't real people, because blacks are dumb and asians are autistic. Sorry to say

>>149299677
Then what’s the best animated figh scene from this thread?

>>149299677
>it's still the guy that god mad we've criticized his looney trunes
Lmao. Imagine spending time 24/7 on 4chan and being this mad. Kek, it couldn't be me. I actually got to sleep, eat and have fun while you are here seething.

>"I-I'm totally not spamming here, derailing the thread 24/7"
Just lmao
>>149299698
The one where your whore mother gets fucked and killed, now fuck off.

>>149299695
And you are black. Your mother was a black whore that got raped. You will always be nothing but an insignificant subhuman. If this was not true, you would have posted your hand already.

>>149299707
Keep coping but I actually had a 10 hour pause between my post while you’ve been seething non-stop.

>>149299707
Oh so you are a dumb troll. Guess I will ignore you. TO continue>>149299681, does anyone remember that french cartoon?

>>149299713
Post your hand, I don't prove myself to mongoloids who you could blindfold with dental floss

By the way, your campaign to change the Proud Family Asians to look less realistically Asian, real black people good job there lol, you complain enough to force people to do things, amazing

>retard still seething
>n-no ur le troll
LMAO

>>149299739
>no you post it
Post it first you absolute retard. If you want me to consider you a proper human, post it. Until then you will continue being just a subhuman like the rest of them.
>some gibberish about cartroons
I don't watch cartroons you fuckin retard.

>>149299739
If you have nothing to hide why not post it?

>>149299529
Well, Asian food is shit. You can't be a real man eating fish and rice and using dainty feminine sticks instead of stabbing and slicing

Reminder that the weeb still has not posted its hand despite me asking first.
Monkey see, monkey do I guess.

>>149299779
Post your hand, I don't have anything to prove to retarded monkeys. If you acted like normal human instead of a raped baby I would have posted my hand but unfortunately that's not the case.

>n-n-no u
All you can do is repeat after your betters, monkey.
You still haven't done so, monkey. And you were still avoiding it since my very first post ITT >>149289317

>>149299822
>n-no you
Ironic also nice cope kek.
>everyone I hate is the same person
Then you are that retarded namefag as well, right? How does it feel knowing your mother get raped?

>everybody is the same person raping me in the ass
Weeb mental illness. Borne out of decades of bullying.

>>149299856
>n-no you
.projecting what his father was doing to him when he was little
Grim. Did it hurt?

>>149299863
Kek, /co/ tranny got btfoed

>>149299771
Asians are subhuman to me, and you've all but admitted you're Asian

>>149299872
>they are subhuman but still capitalizes their race name
Lol. The only chink here is you. Post your hand already

>>149299891
I know English because I'm American and not genz, post your license/birth certificate, faggot. Nobody born before 1995 likes anime in any real way, because we had the best of it and know it's shit.

>>149299900
Post proof. Post your hand. Also nobody born before 1995 likes cartroons either since they are nothing but slop.

>weeb tranny still seething and samefagging
So I was right on the money.
And it's still not posting its hand, lmao.

>>149299944
Look at >>149299840 again, tranny. Keep samefagging like the bitch you are. No one will start liking looney trunes.

>I'm totally not the same faggot spamming the thread for a day now
You're not fooling anybody, tranny.
Like you're not fooling the mirror when you pretend to be a woman.

>>149299961
Your schizoing aside, no males inherently look like women other than Asians who have no natural muscle mass or defining male facial features

But, keep being mad, it brings me joy

>400+ replies
Rise continues to live rent free in your head. What a based show

>>149299961
>projecting his tranny life
Kek, so did you become a tranny because your father molested you and your mom got raped? You are so mad lmao. I've already posted my screencap buy you've posted nothing to prove you are not that retarded namefag. Keep coping, while the creators making your slop are dying 1 by 1.

I didn't ask for your backstory, weeb.
>>149300047
>asians are effeminate onions faggots
Finally you admit it, weebtroon
>>149300138
Nobody even talks about Rise, lmao.
It's a weeb sperging out

>>149300151
NTA but I'm just happy Asian males are jumping out of windows in record numbers while their women all come to the USA

>>149300160
>I didn't ask for your backstory
>n-no you
Kek. Anyways that's your backstory, you will forever be a tranny and now I know that your favorite cartroons are slop like >>149298962 this lmao.

>>149300165
>Asian males are jumping out of windows in record numbers
That's based since there will be less cartroon enjoyers(99% of the fanarat posted on this garbage board is drawn by asians). Damn, I hate cartroons and all of their fans so much.

>>149300160
>Nobody even talks about Rise,
because it's slop.

Just look at this weeb meltdown

>>149297035
>"muh WEIGHT WEIGHT WEIGHT" and this is what he means >>149281231
>the sole idea of an enemy fighting back? OUTRAGEOUS, a COMPLETE turn off for a superFAGGOT's little, power-fantasy-addicted kike clitty
Say it ain't so KEK

>>149300195
I don't think it's the weebs having a bad time in this thread, friendo.

>weeb is still melting down
Lmao, you're really gonna cry like a bitch you are all day long. Fucking loser.
>>149300541
You can't think at all because you're a subhuman.

>>149300195
>>149300624
Yeah sorry for making fun of your looney trunes but I won't watch any of the slop cartroons you are trying to feed us lol.

>us
I knew you're mentally ill, but this is a whole new level.
Did you whore mother never teach you to speak for yourself only?
Oh, right. She was too busy getting fucked in the ass by me.

>>149300633
Youll just watch fag virgin cartoons like DBZ, we understand, but leave and go back to redit

>>149288434
>shaky cam
>in animation
has always been gay and always will be gay. Instantly ruins any fight scene.

>>149300641
>projects his mother getting raped
Lol. And yes us the normal people that don't consume cartroons. The only ass fucking you got was your dad piercing your anus lmao.

>>149300665
Asians don't fuck they sepookoo lmfao. Your dick is small and you have no chin or muscles, isn't that funny

>>149300648
I don't watch that shit and you still haven't posted your hand, you brown subhuman. Why should I use your main forum when I can stay here and you can do nothing about it?

>>149300678
>Chang talking again
Your whore of a mother got raped and you followed in her steps. I wonder does your ass still hurt now? Did watching slop like btas make it feel better?

>be me
>try to improve cartoons from being just slop
>mad /co/ tranny has a meltdown because of that
Grim

>>149279871 (OP)
>>149279888
Both of these are so fucking shit

>>149297398
I agree. I extremely rarely watch old stuff as well but it would be good to have a nostalgia board without zoomers.

>>149300742
you have good intentions but you have to construct better arguments if you want people to take you more seriously

>>149299644
LOL not that guy, but UFC is bullshit in the streets due to you fighting more than one opponent half the time

>>149300866
I am trying but that faggot keep samefagging and sperging out

>>149300886
then just ignore him, /co/ has way too many schizos nowadays

>>149300901
You are right but watching him sperg out was pretty funny ngl.
>/co/ has way too many schizos nowadays
I've noticed. Next thread I will discuss more serious the shortcoming of western cartoons.

>>149289336
alright cockshit
https://youtu.be/rYzwa_YKxEI
>>149290387

>>149301011
Phantom 2040, The maxx

>>149300968
that's the correct attitude
most schizo never received the attention they needed in their formative years

>>149299623
I feel like I'm watching a Genndy Tartakovsky cartoon based on design alone.

>>149301159
Genndy was a fun of some 70s anime, especially Lupin.

>>149301192
>fun
Meant to write fan.

>the retarded namefag and the brainless looney trunes spammer stopped posting at the same time
I am starting to notice.
>>149300165
>>149300160
So you 2 really were the same person lmao. You are probably trying your hardest to sleep while fuming knowing that you've lost so hard

>>149301114
True. It was still a fun thread.

Retarded weeb is still seething? Jesus Christ.
Samefagging and sucking his own dick, too.
>ALL CARTOON ARE SLOP BECAUSE I SAID SOOOO REEEEEEEE
>I'M GONNA CRY ABOUT IT ON CARTOON BOARD BECAUSE I'M TOO MUCH OF A FAGGOT EVEN FOR /a/
>I SHIT ON EVERYTHING AND ACT LIKE A BELLIGERENT CHILD WHEN PEOPLE FIRE BACK
>UNLIKE MY WORTHLESS WEEB GARBAGE
>I'M TOTALLY CONSTRUCTIVE AND YOU IF YOU CRITICIZE ME YOU'RE LE SCHIZO
Couldn't be more of an obvious samefag if you tried. Get cancer, subhuman.
Also, cry harder subhuman.
Also I hope your modfag buttbuddy gets cancer as well. Like that stupid whore who wrote Cowboy Bebop, lmao. Frankly deserved for helping to create that piece of trash.

>>149301114
So much projection, holy shit.
But perfectly expected from a piece of trash who starts shitty east vs west threads.

>>149301371
>n-no you
Kek, you are still coping. Sorry no one cares about your shitty looney trunes.

>c-coping
Post your hand already you subhuman nigger.
Or are you gonna pussy out again like a bitch you are?

>>149301357
>>ALL CARTOON ARE SLOP BECAUSE I SAID SOOOO REEEEEEEE
They are slop because they are garbage unfunny stuff, I am waiting for the day they will improve. Also holy meltdown lmao.

>>149301357
>sperging out this hard because someone crticized his slop
A petulant child.

>>149301397
>literally repeating after me like a parrot
You still haven't posted your hand, moron. You will always be a moron, you will never be an intelligent human being. All your life you've been treated like a moron and you will continue being treat that way.

>more weeb trash seething and crying
>weebtrash calling anybody "petulant child" when they're crying so much over their garbage for over a day (more than that considering you spam threads constantly) like a whiny faggot you are

>more projection
>more parroting
Lmao, me asking you to post your worthless nigger hand really hurt you.

> be me
>say that cartoons are for children and a normal adult shouldn't consume this slop
>NNOOOOOOOO! YOU HAVE TO LIKE BATMAN THE SHIT ADVENTURE AND LOOOOONEY TRUNES!!!!
Why are you like this?

>>149301419
Stop acting like a child and writing walls of cope whenever someone makes fun of your shit. Also it’s obvious that you are the one crying and fuming with anger.

>stop acting like a child
Oh, the irony.
>cope
Everybody already knows you are brown, no need to cry.
>more worthless weeb seething
Embarrassing

>>149301440
>n-no you
Anything more to add? I asked you first to post your dirty hand. I will gladly post mine after you do it yourself(who am I kidding everyone knows the color of your skin already, only a certain group of people has these kind of meltdowns)

>>149301590
The funny thing is that he had the chance to mention non-slop stuff but he failed

>Hey retard, I asked you first but all you did was crying like a bitch you are.
Post your brown hand already, subhuman.
>p-p-please play the game of "I will call everything slop because I'm a belligerent faggot"
Sorry, nobody is anywhere near as gullible as stupid as you are. Maybe your retard parents for giving birth to you instead of aborting you. Or the state for not executing them. And you can stop replying to yourself with two devices, nobody's fooled by your totally organic posting
>>149287173
>webm
Actually let me make fun of this garbage one more time before the thread, to make the weebtard seethe even harder.
Red faggot showing goofy kung fu against retarded monsters who don't even try to fight back.
This is supposed to be a good fight in the delusional eyes of weebs.

And kek, you can see with a naked eye on 0:10 how the punch doesn't even connect.
LMAO

>>149301607
>crying this hard
>cope seethe cope seethe
Yeah, literally mindbroken lol

Of course the faggot mod would defend xir buttbuddy, lmao.
Post hand already, you brown coward.
By the way all tranime is garbage and you will never be white or a woman. Then again you will never be a real man either because you watch tranime.
You're this pathetic thing inbetween.

>>149301738
I don’t even watch anime, I am only here to shit on cartroon you dumb faggot tranny

>>149301651
>n-no you
Post it already, you subhuman.
>>p-p-please play the game of "I will call everything slop because I'm a belligerent faggot"
You fucking retard. I've already told you why your slop sucks here >>149299340 and most of /co/ already agrees those shows are garbage. Also FUCKING KEK you are the fag that was having a meltdown for being called failed abortion, right? Lmao you are still seething about that.

>I'm here to troll and shitpost
Yeah, we know.
Still no hand of yours
>I've already told you why your slop sucks here
>look at my buzzwords that barely count as arguments
You're the most pathetic faggot imaginable. Kill yourself already, loser

>>149301772
>writing the truth=trolling
Nice cope lol.
>writing his slop is so garbage=buzzwords. Name 1 fucking buzzword I've used there you utter cretin. You can't defend your slop because it's utter slop with no value or quality. Everyone on /co/ dislikes these garbage cartroons.

>more retarded justifications for his faggotry
Almost as pathetic as you are.
By the way, the faggot openly admitted that he's only shitposting here like a faggot.
That's not a rule violation of any kind at all.
Oh wait.
>trolling outside of /b/
>the post is off-topic
>the post is extremely low-quality
But of course the mods are too busy playing favorites to ban a seething weeb troon

And you can stop trying to justify your pathetic excuse for argument you replace with retarded buzzwords.
May your mother and your father get cancer, by the way

>>149301843
>still didn't give any examples of buzzwords
Kek
>now he is projecting what happened to his parents

let's summarize the weeb cope:
>it's shit but i won't explain why
>it's too unrealistic, which is not a problem for animes somewhy
>animal fights don't count but i won't explain why
>Akira has better animation! even though we were discussing fight choreography and not animation quality.

You have no arguments, all you have is retarded buzzwords and seething. You're an embarrassing mentally ill subhuman and your death can't come soon enough.
Do it for the sake of everybody who knows you. Down the street, not across the road.
Nobody will be unhappy, believe me.

>>149301825
>being this illiterate
I am here because I want cartroons to get fucking better, I want a cartroon to reach the peaks of other media you brainless moron

>>149301891
It's shit because the writing is shit.

>>149301897
>still projecting this hard
I've already written my arguments. Your medium is nothing by slop, kill yourself tranny.

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I unironically don't get why mods just don't ban the weeb already. He contributes nothing to the topic beyond screeching how all cartoons are bad (even the ones that universally acclaimed and beloved) and he's the sole reason this thread is as awful as it is.