Thread 149304969

Superman review embargo lifts at midnight tonight, what's your expectations?

>>149304969 (OP)
84%

>movie about an illegal immigrant
I think it's going to bomb

>>149304969 (OP)
>what's your expectations?
more bad reviews

My last two digits shall be the RT score.

>>149304969 (OP)
Positive, but not spectacular.
I mean from everything we've seen this movie looks good. It's directed by the right people, it's got a good tone, funny enough, plenty of action.

Now James Gunn's adolescent sense of humor, and a lack of direction which is probably going to be an issue with this film, probably won't make this any critical darling.
But it should surpass the low bar of being the best Superman film since 1981's Superman II. It could even be better than Superman 2, I hope it is.
I entirely doubt it'll be better than the original Superman movie though. The tone isn't right for that to happen.

It's sad since it wouldn't be that hard to make a better Superman movie than Superman 1978, but I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon. The Man of Steel has bad luck on the silver screen.
Partially since, for whatever reason, they haven't decided to just adapt any of his most popular comic books. He has some really great stories, but no Hollywood person wants to do a direct adaptation for some reason.

ooo a Movie about an Alien vs a Billionaire.

>>149304969 (OP)
It looks exactly how a Superman movie should.
Of course I also said that about Amazing Spider-Man 2...

>>149304969 (OP)
It's gonna suck but critics love Gunn and will over praise any superman movie that isn't from Snyder. If it does somehow get bad or even lukewarm reviews than it's gonna be Morbius/Madame Webb level bad.

>>149305118
>I mean from everything we've seen this movie looks good.
C'mon, now. Why lie?

>>149305143
>Amazing Spider-Man 2
From the deleted scenes, Webb made a great movie, and then Sony stepped in. So you were something like half-right.

>>149304969 (OP)
That's the social reaction embargo not reviews, the review embargo lifts 3pm tomorrow.

>>149304969 (OP)
middling reception

>>149304969 (OP)
to go see the movie regardless

>>149305186
>From the deleted scenes, Webb made a great movie, and then Sony stepped in
nta but I never heard about that, is there a Webb's Cut somewhere that I can watch?

>>149305168
Yeah that half a second mini-shot leading up to the fighting looks bad.
But you can see at the end it even starts looking good again!

I don't know why people are acting like this movie looks bad. Do they, you, just not like colors?
The flying scenes, the Fortress of Solitude, several of the action moments we've seen in trailers, all look good.

If you want a movie which looks like shit, see Man of Steel, where everything is all grey, muted, and miserable.

>>149305325
>But you can see at the end it even starts looking good again!
No, it doesn't. None of the CGI in the trailers and clips released looked fine.

>>149305325
>The flying scenes
?????

Superman reviews are IN!
>IGN - FUUUUCK I HATE IT
>DiscussingFilm - The Gunn wasn't Jammed
>Fevin Keige - It's not all that
>Rotten Tomatoes - 100%

>>149305032
>32%
Imagine lmao. Gunnjeets would start claiming Disney rigged the reviews like Snyderbots did for BvS

>>149305325
Gunnshill your desperation is palpable.

>>149305032
oof

credible

he becomes an hero tonight
.

>>149305320
NTA but no, there's no Webb cut of the movie anywhere. The original poster was also exaggerating, there's some deleted scenes that look kinda interesting but nothing that'd save the movie.

Here's compilations of some of the deleted scenes of you're really interested, though:
https://youtu.be/lYiDtFZo9pE?si=KAjquf_dSrPm8wnB

https://youtu.be/eb9AMV_6BJ4?si=1Q-cCYvdBpIZXz3k

>>149305118
>Directed by the right people
>Good tone, funny enough
>James Gunn's adolescen sense of humour and lack of direction is going to be an issue
Lol, pick a lane.

>>149305829
It'll be glorious if this opens to less than Man of Steel or even grosses less overall. I'm not rooting for the film to fail but Gunnfags need to be humbled after all the shit they've been talking for years.

>>149305032
>32
Oof

>Superman shills are desperate to dissociate the movie from Flash even though it involves the same VFX team, cinematographer, and director as the one who made the unilateral choice to change Flash’s ending
>Snyderjeets are desperate to remind everyone of this association
WB execs pissing off the Snyderjeets was the worse thing the company ever did. It's like having a dedicated marketing firm running bad press for you 24/7 on social media.

>>149305892
Kinda sounds like you’re rooting for it to fail.

what a faggot.
making Superman weak is not how you make him relatable because the Superman that fight aliens, hauls planets and is friends with Batman isn't relatable, he's a comfort character. the kind you know will fix everything once they enter the scene, like Goku landing on Namek or Saitama facing anyone, Captain America is also such a character.
making Superman getting his ass raped and crying doesn't give me hope he's going to save the day. Clark Kent is the relatable character, his problems and issues are human, he can be as weak as everyone else and belong with them, which is what he always wanted, even in Man of Steel this was clear as day.

Gunn doesn't give comic book stories and characters the gravitas and respect they deserve, he turns them into jokes and simply thinks his version is better and then his casualfag brigade expects ME to accept his version, even though I've know the character better and longer than he has. happened with Warlock, now it's happening to Superman.

>>149305859
Reminded me of Harry's atrocious haircut in this movie lmao

>>149306138
not reading alldat

>>149305949
How did these movies get such a die-hard fandom? Genuinely crazy how dedicated they are to a failed universe

>>149305346
Yeah that looks good, what's the issue?

>>149306747
That looks awful.

>>149305186
Avi Arad and Amy Pascal truly screwed that movie

>>149305859
Holy nostalgia bomb with the second video

>>149306747
Gunnshills have no taste

I want it to fail because I hate James Gunn, but I'm a big boy. I won't freak out if it gets good reviews.

>>149306638
It started out as DC fans not liking that DC was always the butt of the joke compared to Marvel, and they developed an insecurity about DC films getting criticized.
Then it mutated into feeling that way about Zack Snyder as a filmmaker. His films were called low brow disaster porn, but "I like those films, what does that say about me??" the fans would say. They would overcompensate by calling the pseudo-intellectual themes and dialogue in Snydershit brilliant and misunderstood by the masses. That retard Grace Randolph even compared BvS to Kubrick. The persecution complex continued to mutate as we learned that WB may have screwed Snyder over Justice League, "now we have to target the producers for intervening in Snyder's grand vision!" Their harrassment got AT&T to release a new cut of Justice League and even influenced Walter Hamada into stepping down. In short WB gave them an inch and now Snyderjeets think they can change anything, leading to that ridiculous bullshit about reserving Superman tickets that they won't pay for.

>>149307180
>Their harrassment got AT&T to release a new cut of Justice League and even influenced Walter Hamada into stepping down.
C'mon, that is way too much. AT&T released that because it needed something to draw attention to their new streaming app and Hamada was fired because all his movies bombed.

>>149306138
Yeap, I agree with that. Imagine that you are in a fire or some kind of disaster and the first responder loses his shit and starts crying, that's when you know shit is fucked. Firemen don't show their weak side they take your hand and say "everything's gonna be alright", they show a calm voice, they appear to be in charge of the situation just so you don't lose your hope. That's Superman but for the whole planet, Gunn is a retarded that doesn't understand that. There is a good chance that he will be worse than Snyder and goddamn I don't know how to take that.

>>149307180
the amount of seethe is so obvious gunnjeet. You try to suprass but it came bursting out as a crescendo. You are definitely going to sperg out hard when this movie flops.

>>149307370
>suprass
Good morning sir

>>149304969 (OP)
Critics will love it.
Audience will love it.
I will find it boring.

I for one am excited to see it, and not interested at all in critics reviews. These people don't care about comics or these characters.

>>149305118
>Now James Gunn's adolescent sense of humor
I don't think this will be like any movie Gunn has ever made, so while I think there'll be comedy moments, it will be very toned down compared to what he's done with SS and GOTG.

>>149305168
Most of the MCU's "golden age" looked rough too. Critics don't care as long as they vibe with the overall product.

>>149307569
The bits in the trailer already left me cringing.

>>149305032
Gunnbros...

>>149305949
>that pfp and handle
Why are Snyderjeets like this?

>>149307593
Dude this shit was always baffling, like they made him wear an actual suit but do the CG shit anyway.

>>149307593
Civil War looked bad in some spots, but Superman is literally poorly made. I can't stress this enough. I feel some of the CGI was made with IA because in some scenes Superman got way more digits, or his feet grows too large, or his face morphs in weird ways.

There's bad CGI and then there's truly BAD CGI, and Superman is clearly the latter.

At the very worst it will probably be just okay, The Suicide Squad was great until the lackluster third act and I expect a similar trajectory. At the very least it will probably serve as a good start for the capeshit cinematic universe after so many years of false starts.

>>149304969 (OP)
Daily beast of all leftist sites calling Superman preachy hilarious.

>>149307748
Because a movie can be preachy. See the Hallmark movies. There's corny, and then there's preachy. The latter is when a movie keeps hitting you with a sledgehammer about what it is trying to say.

>>149304969 (OP)
I'm seeing the movie tomorrow, I won't look at the reviews

>>149305866
If this is good it will be despite Gunn's faggotry and not because of.

>>149304969 (OP)
Most of Gunn's movies are bad and they have gotten great reviews
So I think the RT will be in the 80s.

>>149307663
>Civil War looked bad in some spots
lol

>>149307925
It did.
Mind you, this Superman movie also looks washed out but it was really bad in Civil War. Hawkeye's purple suit was literally grey.

>>149305964
Because Anon is and so am I.

>>149304969 (OP)
Critics will glaze it, but audiences will have mixed thoughts.

Visually the movie looks weird, the wide angle lens stuff especially. This shot from a behind the scenes clip is where I've come closest to liking what they're doing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suLX45FvGmQ#t=14

>>149307180
It’s even simpler than that, people just like to belong to something.
Snyderfans had/have a very tight community from the start, and that’s appealing to people especially online.
Don’t forget they used to raise money for suicide charities too so that drove a lot of altruistic people to get drawn in as well. Virtue-signaling drives plenty of behavior.

>>149307982
It feels like something out of IA.

>>149308065
What is IA? Are you trying to type AI but you're dyslexic?

>>149308108
Yes, just bit a but.

>>149308108
It’s an ESL brownoid
AI in Spanish is “inteligencia artificial”, so it gets written as IA

>>149307939
I think he meant you were underselling how bad it looked

I know no one reads newspapers anymore but today's issue of USA Today had a front page story of The Daily Planet. I bought 2

Came here for the leaks, is the Luthor getting cucked thing true or what?

>>149308828
It says more about you than the movie considering what you're fixating on

I seriously believe no one outside India cares for these movies.

>>149308862
I seriously believe you're a street shitting Indian shitposter trying to push the nonsense no one like Superman

>>149308828
Yes, it is.

>>149308846
Yeah mf, I like cuckshit that shit got me horny, is that what you wanted to hear?
Nah but fr is that stuff real I'm still gonna watch the movie I just wanna know

Are the Pattinson/Batman rumors true after that leaked track release?

>>149309014
What rumors?

>>149305022
Why? He's not a Muslim.

IT"S GONNA BE GREAT!

>>149309025
>https://x.com/dcusupernews/status/1942374438030213538?s=46&t=AmOGal9A3QxJgiqxfDJy5g

Twitter's been on it the past 2 hours since the soundtrack leaked. Also fuck the captcha and 2 minute wait lately holy shit

>>149309108
This would be an awful idea.

>>149309078
truth justice and a better tomorrow

>>149309151
Agreed but Andy Muschetti is absolute ass, and shouldnt direct any film for them whatsoever but i digress

>>149309078
Wow you're reaching for anything, aren't you?

>>149307218
Anon logic and facts are not allowed here. You only have 3 options. Shit on Snyder, shit on Gunn, or shit on both. You're not allowed to notice that Snyder's films turned a profit or had good CGI

>>149307676
Not with Clayface for the next film. Who gives a shit about him.

>>149309078
Politics, religion, and money were the topics my dad told me to avoid when with friends because all they do is divide.

>>149305859
cool

>>149304969 (OP)
>what's your expectations?
When you have to pre-hype a movie this much, you know it's gonna be shit.

>>149309347
Only comic nerds like me, but that doesn't matter, they hope that the movie itself is good enough for people to tune in and tell their friends about it.
They can't just rely on established fans, since Clayface is a niche character, they're hoping that the movie can make him slightly less niche.

I think it will be a completely average superhero movie that makes just enough money to justify continuing the Gunnverse for a couple more movies.

>>149305829
Why would he kill himself or superman u dumb nigga
He's a nintendie

>>149309230
It's not a reach, it's a main actor politicizing the movie. Completely unnecessary. Stan Lee said it best "we're providers of entertainment, nothing more."

I'm probably one of the few hardcore Mr. Terrific fans in the world so I'm excited at least.

>>149309078
But Supes hasn't said "the American way" in his usual speech for 20 years. So I don't see how being against the latest version makes you against the American way.

>>149309441
I guess there's some potential to a shapeshifter, but it would have to be something like Memento where the audience literally doesn't know who did the bad thing until after it has happened. Or if going more the action sequence, then Terminator 2.

>>149309461
The trailers made me dislike what they did to Mr Terric.

Hated the actor that they picked. He's a skinny ass looking nerd. Mr Terrific is an athlete. His whole deal is that he's the whole package: a genius and an accomplished medalist.
They also gave him a huge afro and had him talking as if he came out of a Blaxploitation movie.
What's up with that? Is this part of the movie? That the only black hero is a parody of what a black action hero? I don't like it.
Mr Terrific is supposed to be a refined character. He apparently gets demoralized by Krypto throughout the movie.

>>149309483
I just feel it is going to be Substance 2.0: superhero edition.

>>149309497
>Black guy has short temper and can't handle pets.
Well anon at least they didn't to full in on the trope and make it a lizard to scare the black guy.

>>149309497
>That the only black hero is a parody of what a black action hero?
It's what (((they))) think will appeal to the urban youth.

>>149307593
it really is incredible how they got away with some of this stuff

>>149309497
I was kind of worried but other scenes with him released kinda reassured me he wasn't gonna be some jive talker. Don't really care if he's jacked desu, not like you can even tell under the leather jacket and I like the afro.

>>149309519
But i don't even know if urban youths know about characters like Shaft to get the joke.

>>149309347
Clayface movie is gonna be low budget so even if it bombs it won't really hurt anything. Horror movies normally make their money back anyway with this tactic of them all being made shoestring.

>>149309537
>he wasn't gonna be some jive talker.
But clips had him jive talking with the voice any everything, and i know the actor enough to know that is not his voice.

Talking about voices, what's up with the weird stuff in this movie where the actors change their pitch during dialogue? Superman's actor even when playing Clark changes his pitch suddenly talking as if he doing an impression of Darkseid.

>>149309570
Yeah but I think those are just the 2 clips shown. The one where he's talking otherwise he sounds more subdued. Kind of reminds me of Blade, and Blade also had 1 or 2 scenes where he just randomly jive talked.
>Talking about voices, what's up with the weird stuff in this movie where the actors change their pitch during dialogue?
Idk. I can't tell if that's a movie thing or a trailer thing. Lex Luthor's lines are obviously cut together so blatantly for the trailer it sounds like an AI read them. They should've just had the actor rerecord it for the trailer if they wanted to make it one monologue. Maybe it's like that in parts of the movie too I'll wait to see.

>>149309542
It's not intended to be a joke.

>>149309437
I come to these threads so I go all bummed up to the movie and then it isn't as terrible as you all are making it sound.

>>149309520
this seems like a relatively easy scene to have a stuntman just do in the costume why did they do this

>>149309592
>Kind of reminds me of Blade, and Blade also had 1 or 2 scenes where he just randomly jive talked.
But Blade, outside of him being British in the comics, kind sold the idea of him being vampire Shaft.
Mr Terrific, though, is supposed to be a more refined character. But eh whatever it is Gunn and he always change the characters in wild ways.

>>149309647
fair enough. we'll see how it is when it's out

>>149305829
Who, Moviebob? I thought he hated DC. Every time I see him talk about their movies he’s usually shitting on them for dumb reasons like "Darkseed’s" dumb name and how general audiences are too smart to take a villain like that seriously or Batman’s goofy, hard to understand, toughguy voice (note: he was specifically talking about Patterson’s Batman, not Bale’s) or my personal favorite "If Joker good then why it set in 80s? Got ya". The only ones I remember him not shitting on were Wonder Woman and Birds of Prey which I always assumed was just him trying to look like as a good Feminist™ ally. Of course I haven’t been able to make it through one of his videos in years so maybe he’s changed (or maybe he thinks he can own the syndercult by supporting it)

>>149307663
>IA
dude

It doesn't matter how good it is, we'll still have the same small yet loud anons acting like rabid dogs yelling at you for liking it

>>149309830
for real, Gunnjeets won't stop even after it flops

>>149304969 (OP)
I’m fucking scared

>>149309848
You didn't even read my post, did you?

Now I'm not watching it even harder.

>>149307593
>>149307618
>>149307663
I can't quite remember where I saw it, but apparently the floating head problem isn't really an issue with the cgi as much as it is a problem with the design of the suit itself and the lighting. It's so oddly shaped & matte-colored that it barely reflects anything around it, including Tony's head. So even with a practical suit, you assume it's just superimposed over the scene even when it's not.

>>149309896
>>149309878
WBshills have been spamming this site for days, pretending like Snyder just came out of nowhere when retards have been shilling a crap film is cope. Unless your also WB shills

Listening to the soundtrack previews, some of these are pretty surprising.

>>149309982
Why is it that EVERY FUCKING TIME there's a glimmer of optimism you echo chamber faggots default to "SHILL! THEYRE SHILLLLLLLSSSSS!!!". For fuck sake. This TORtanic nonsense gets old

>>149310023
Why are you faggots always talking about "optimism" for this film?

>>149310023
Kekaroo, nice way to expose yourself. The only hope you have is for the box office of some random movie. Yeah your definitely a shill faggot.

>>149310023
their brains cannot process the idea that other people like things they don't. that, and they're seething.

>>149310023
See >>149309885

>>149308828
He locked 3 of his ex-girlfriends in his pocket universe. I don't know if he wanted to get cucked like Leto's Joker.

>>149310032
>>149310040
Like clockwork. Look, I get the shill shit. I'm not a fool, I know online marketing is a thing. Look at all the dumb shit Disney tried with Ironheart. But you guys are really pushing the newfag board mentality that the only thing we're allowed to like is ironic shitpost meme brainrot now. I'm not saying people can't like the film, but at the same time why is it always doomposting and shill accusations?

>>149310023
I only trust people talking good things about a movie or game, or comic, or whatever after it has been like three months or something after its release. Otherwise i just write it off as shilling, specially when there certain key words used by the marketing team everywhere else. In you case the key phrase here being "optimism". If you had said "hope" then, that'd be another.

>>149310076
Answer my >>149310032 question.

>>149310044
> MaWS
for sure a WBshill and most definitely a smelly indian kek

>>149310076
> Gunnshill melty
Damn, it must be looking even worst than I thought. You better rig the RT harder than you were intending bucko.

>>149310093
Key words used by marketing team for this movie:

Optimism
Hope
Colorful (the movie doesn't look that colorful because of the color grading they're using that makes everything look bright and white as fuck)
Comic book-y

For some reason i haven't seen the word "funny" used that much for some reason, which is odd given it is a movie directed by James Gunn. I wonder why that is.

>>149304969 (OP)
Exceedingly mediocre

>>149310118
>> M

>>149304969 (OP)
Insufferable complaining/shilling from critslop tourists

>>149305022
But he's an actual refugee, and he's one that fully and enthusiastically integrated into the society that took him in.
In all frankness, people would be eager for a film about an immigrant extolling the virtues of their society and fighting to defend it from malicious outsiders and traitors within.

>>149310093
>>149310094
When I used the term "optimism", that wasn't in regard to what's in the film itself or whatever theme driving it. I used the word in reference to having a positive anticipation towards a film based upon limited footage shown in marketing. It doesn't mean by default the film is quality, merely personal opinion that I may be in for a good time. You're getting context mixed up. My problem was getting shit on for having a positive outlook at this time.
>>149310132
So since we're just defaulting to shitposting, would you mind if I just resorted to "Go Fuck Yourself" and we call it a day? I'd rather not waste both of our time

>>149309347
People thought a Penguin show was stupid too but it ended up being one of the best things they've made in a while, I'm willing to give it a chance

>>149309609
Because practical shit is starting to become a lost art

>>149310093
I can't say I'm looking forward to seeing anything from the film. The soundtrack is a redo of the old one, so eh. The suits all look like jackets and pants, which is meh for the men, and an absolute downer for the women. The character list is too big for an introductory movie. The effects look weird. None of the actors are people I've seen in other stuff and look forward to seeing them again, or stand out to me as beautiful or charismatic. I do not jerk off to dog ownership so the whole krypto being hectic just looks to me like Superman is a bad owner, which feels weird given it's superman. And the villain being an evil individual with superman's powers (like in MOS, like in BvS without the steroids) feels massively overdone.

So what exactly is there to shill for this movie?
>Gunn did it omg!
Oh so we can expect a shitty ending like the power of friendship bullshit he did for the first Guardians of the Galaxy? Or that heh, whoops, Peter forgot his mask and rocket boots which are such a signature thing for him, at the end of the third movie so he can suffocate in space before being rescued by le religious imagery golden eyebrows kid? I'm just not excited by something so lazy like that.

>>149309308
but they barely made a profit

So, where are the reviews?

>>149310221
only 2 more minutes away

>>149310221
movie ain't out yet

>>149310209
I fucking hate the manufactured costumes that almost give off a corporate look to them. The Justice Gang all wear the exact type of costume that like you said look like biker vests and pants, and even Superman costume has that same look making him look like a sponsored hero instead of his costume looking like something Ma Kent made or something that came with him from Krypton. It doesn't look homemade and it doesn't look alien. It's a biker type thing like most of the MCU costumes as if the superheroes are all buying their costumes from the same store, some sort of Nike like brand but for superhero costuming.

I don't know a lot about the movie, but also the idea that the proto-Justice League is some corporate nonsense that came from Max Lord - played by James Gunn's brother, Sean -, bothers the fuck out of me. The corporate Justice League, ie JLI, shouldn't come before the actual Justice League. That just feels wrong. This gives off the idea that eventually Superman and Batman will integrated this corporate version of Justice League as if they were like the Avengers.

a Superman movie should have him fighting the big bads and not a random monster, at best Lex should be an agent of chaos/necessary evil rather than the main antagonist.

>>149304969 (OP)
Damn, supes gets to fuck this?

>>149305032
BRUTAL

>>149310182
I would mind Gunnshill, they pay you to convince us to watch slop, get back to work.

>>149304969 (OP)
So when do the first reviews drop?

>>149305032
it's over

>>149310220
More than the constant losses Hamada brought afterwards, and the Rock, and whoever was in charge of Blue Beetle and Flash (Gunn promoted them as soon as he took the helm rather than disowning them like the rest of the universe,, so I'm blaming him)

Oh no. Oh nononononooo, pajeetbros...

The first reactions are mostly positive but it's mainly geek press junkets whores, the few legacy media critics seem more mixed. I expect a big All Critics/Top Critics divide on RT tomorrow.

>>149310288
They all just happened to go to the exact same store. And they got a discount. Buy 5 jackets and 1 is free. Hawkgirl got the free one, since she's from Egypt or an alien in this, so she basically has no real money.

this dude is an RT critic who seems to align with the rotten/fresh tomatometer 99% of the time

>>149310383
June 8th at 3 PM EST.

>>149310376
Do you really derive such joy from shitposting? I was pretty fair in earlier posts if you bothered to read them

>>149310427
This guy praised the Snyder's movies, though.

>>149310410
but retard-kun, Sneeder main comoetitor wasn’t Hamada or the Rock, it was Marvel.

>>149310410
He also changed the ending of Flash so he gets the blame for that Clooney cringe

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONO

is it over or are we back super bros?

>>149310513
>>149309461
I wonder how Mr. Terrific "steals the movie."

Wonder woman 1984 was in the 90s before it fell sunk like a brink in water. Once the real critics and not the geek ones get in Superman will get its rotten score

>>149310552
Based on the trailers by acting like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyq61qQF9ik

>>149310416
Not surprising the shills and Geek press junkets are glazing it. Who are the few legacy media critics that reviewed it so fat?
I'm expecting a big divide as well anon.

>>149310461
So it's only good and not great. That's a failure by DC/WB.

>>149310556
You're probably right.

>>149310556
The real critics liked WW 1984 more than the geek critics.

>>149310589
>Who are the few legacy media critics that reviewed it so far
No full reviews but a Variety critic said it was worse than a Netflix movie

>>149310414
>#Superman soars! A non-stop joyride packed with humor, action, and emotion! It actually elicited tears of joy from me!

Gun went the opposite of his usual cynicism and went full saccharine

Why does no one know balance?

>>149310654
what will he and Jay think?

>>149310023
I hope you kill yourself, not because of superman or gunn or snyder, but because of your muh optimism whining

>>149310654
Ironically enough, Mike and Jay will probably like this. I hope Rich is there too like with Man of Steel, Justice League and BvS.

>>149310665
the guardians movies aren't particularly cynical though. The ending of 2 especially.

>>149310671
their review of BvS is kino

>>149310613
I'm waiting for the brutally honest reviews. ViewerAnons review sounds honest. But none of the other reviews that have come out do.

From how the movie is being described I think Gen Zers will hate it, they don't give a crap about comic books and they certainly don't like camp either.

>>149310439
C'mon anon, I get you suffer from retardation and hopeless Snyder derangement syndrome, but I didn't type such a complicated post. Try to read it again and see if you understand it. If little kids can, I'm sure with some effort you could too.

>>149304969 (OP)
Will float between high 70s and mid 80s. Moderate success, similar to The Batman (around 700-800 mil)

>>149310689
i'm Gen Z and I like camp. Everyone I know loves the Raimi movies.

Anyone seeing it tomorrow? It's literally playing 20 minutes away from me so I figured what the hell.

>>149310689
>they don't give a crap about comic books and they certainly don't like camp either.
I haven't really seen anything more comic-booky about this movie, at least not more so than the GotG films, and it doesn't look camp either. I don't think people really know what camp means.

>>149310709
I am, yeah. post your thoughts when you see it Anon.

>>149310709
Paying big bucks to go to the movies to sit near noisy people to watch a movie that's doubtfully slop is not a good idea. Just stream it.

>>149310668
Jay will think its fine and Mike will forget most of it because he wasn't paying attention.

>>149310700
So less than MOS Adjusted for Inflation. Sorry that's a failure.

>>149310712
I'm just going by what initial reviews are saying.

>>149306138
How is he weak? He got his ass beat by a Kryptonian clone, presumably. Plus Luthor has kryptonite. It’s meant to set up his hero’s journey/learning to overcome his weaknesses and grow as a character. Are snyderjeets born yesterday? Have they not watched enough movies to understand basic story structure?

>>149310669
Okay

Reminder that this Superman literally eats Lois' shit

>>149310709
I'll only go if the reviews are really good, I just don't go to the theaters much at all and torrent shit at my leisure

>>149310726
I only paid 10 bucks for an IMAX and there will be security there making sure people don't do crazy shit.

I don't know what this means, sounds like they're saying Boravia is Israel to Jarhanpur's Palestine but I have a hard time believing Tom King gave input to a script that's Anti-Israel. Also Gunn himself is actually lowkey racist, The Suicide Squad is all about a faceless horde of brown people getting killed and it's played as a joke.

don't worry snyderbros, asmongold will stream tomarrow to call superman woke and gay, hold on

>>149310744
Yeah I’ve always preferred supes basically at the power level that no one can solo him in a fair fight but he’s just one person with a good heart and there are plenty of ways to contrive situations where he’s not the immediate answer to every problem. He can’t be everywhere at once and isn’t some super genius, brain works 5 million times faster than normal like the silver/golden age stuff.

>>149310741
Only in your baljeet logic is it a failure. 700$ earned The Batman a spin off and a sequel

>>149310414
Marvel levels of CGI? this shill didn't watch The Flash.

>>149310817
didn't this guy SA nostoliga chick?

Apparently cornsweat is a fan of calvin and hobbes
https://youtu.be/qpWP8KJZUj0?si=jkghbkMg0v9u8hK5&t=282

>>149310744
>How is he weak?
>He got his ass beat

>>149310830
Yeah but then how do you deal with shit like Mongul, Bizarro, Darkseid etc. who can actually go toe to toe with him?

>>149310513
'lower your expectations or you're going to savage it'

>>149310850
Everyone likes Calvin and Hobbes.

>>149310837
The Flash can’t be worse than Green Screen: The Movie

>>149310875
kek holy shit it looks like the Star Wars prequels

>>149310853
By someone equal to him in strength and more aggro. Watch Rocky Balboa. Your Mary Sue power fantasy characters are dogshit in cinema

>>149310832
No it is a failure because if it doesn't make over $900m, then there was no reason to replace Cavill.

>>149305949
I just want it to beat MCU Fantastic, the heckin wholesome retro thing feels insincere

>>149310709
I'll wait for discount tuesday or for someone to invite me.I'm not putting my money down to change my mind since I already know I'm not going to like it or give it a fair shake.

>>149310892
the nigga can't act that's a good enough reason to replace him

>>149310899
This movie also has hecking wholesome retro thing feels for 70s, anon.

>>149310873
yeh true

>>149310899
*MCU Fant4stic

>>149310758
I don't even like dialogue like this in jest. I hope Gunn's entire family kills themselves.

>>149310817
ofc that's all he cares about.

>>149310899
It would be funny if this got better reviews than F4 but I don't see that happening.

>>149310178
>and he looks white
/pol/ is a cancer

>>149310947
There is some weird push for Pedro Pascal as this new kind of male representation and sex symbol that fits the whole safe anti-toxic male figure, and so you've everyone and their mother bending themselves to praise him to high heavens.

That alone with make sure that Fanatstic is praised a lot.

>>149310899
it's just a retro futurist aesthetic. Superman is the one clashing giant monster battles and robot butlers with political commentary on the middle east. shit's exhausting.

>>149310960
Goes to show how important it is to nail the casting. I thought Pedro was great in GoT and Narcos, but I hate him as Joel and Reed

>>149310974
New to DC, bud? Some of the best DC stuff has political undertones, like The Watchmen

>>149310875
It kinda was, I don't think that particular gets nearly as comically bad outside of maybe Modok

Be aware most of the honest reactions/reviews won't emerge for at least another day or 2. Sone outliers like >>149310461 will pop up though.

I already know what I'm going to watch

>>149311008
This was stupid

>>149310838
No, he just thought they were friends because they took a picture together once.
I don't know why anyone would want to be friends with a woman who made an entire documentary about her own abortion anyway. Even if you're pro-choice that's a pretty fucked up thing to do.

>>149311008
This was great

>>149311008
Has the Joker stayed Muslim in the comics?

>>149311028
Sue is ugly and has a man voice

>>149310875
They're about the same level of bad but The Flash is worse due to it being glazed to high hell before it was released.

>>149310744
The issue is having him eating shit and wheezing in all the trailers. Like him getting his ass whooped is a selling point.

Scott Mendelson said it's not good. It's over.

>>149311042
was the father spoony?

>>149311170
He'll probably rate it fresh tho

>>149311193
That clown probably will. Even thought it should be a rotten score from him, since he basically called it mid.

>>149311130
I agree that the promotion for this has been shit. Everything we’ve seen is from the first 30 minutes, the remaining 1h 30m is a mystery. But it seems like one of those movies packed with comic references, so I’m probably going to love this shit

>>149311177
I remember her being thirsty for ToddInTheShadows

>>149311236
You might but normies are getting sick of CBMs.

>>149309785
Moviebob generally hates DC and likes Marvel because he sees everything as a culture war, but he likes James Gunn so this is an exception. He is interviewed the guy in real life once and sort of weirdly lives vicariously through Gunn.

>>149311384
He also weirdly loved Sucker Punch. Even most Snyderfags won't defend that garbage.

>>149311384
>sort of weirdly lives vicariously through Gunn.
Gunn is a cringe nerd who managed to break into Hollywood and get pussy, it's not a mystery why the blob looks up to him.

>all these positive impressions

Today is gonna be India's 9/11

If Gunn was truly based, he would have made a Golden Age Superman movie. Easily the most based version of Supes

>>149310817
Not gonna mention how cowardly it is to pin it all on Luthor instead of holding the other parties involved in the conflict accountable?
Captain america brave new world was also anti ice anti genocide anti trump and anti isolationist as well by the way.

>>149311466
>anti ice anti genocide
Was it? I don't think there was anything about this in the film.

>>149311471
It portrays the government and the people working for it badly, but the main hero refuses to kill those involved and talks them down. It also involved him trying to stop an escalation of conflict between two countries before war starts.

>>149311426
Now to see if it can beat the dinoslop this weekend. I do hope this is an actual good movie about a non-brooding Superman.

>>149310698
nta but he is right, you think just because Hamada flopped doesn't mean Snyder flopped?

>>149311491
I'm talking about Brave New World. It wasn't about genocide because it was about several states fighting over a big rock with no one on it.

>>149310513
Over for snydertards

>>149310589
>So it's only good and not great. That's a failure by DC/WB.
This is such weird cope.

Have any of the reactions said whether Hawkgirl is Thanagarian in this version?

What's he thinking right now?

>>149311426
Social Media Embargo is always a farce because it's the funko critics and influencers personally invited by the studios giving their reactions

>>149311587
Hopefully suicide

>>149311587
He's focused on getting his Warhammer movie made

>>149311543
I loved the Snyder movies but I'm also excited for This movie. I think a distinction should be made between Snyder fans and those losers in the Snyder "cult" who are going to hate on anything not Synder no matter what.

>>149310823
Meanwhile Warner already started the messaging campaign trying to frame the movie as woke and pro-immigrant that was not present in the years the film was being made. They're trying to cover their asses.

>>149311635
That's where I'm at. Before MoS came out, I as trepidatious about it because I was hoping for a sequel to Superman Returns. But I ended up liking Man of Steel, so I was like "whatever, just give me more of that then". Then we never got a proper follow-up to MoS despite it doing really well, lol. However this new movie comes out I just want to see an ongoing series of Superman films again. I don't doubt I'll like it, I just want it not be another one and done thing.

>>149311700
Bryan Singer's plans for a superman returns 2 were so edgelord they would have killed dc for thirty years

>>149311618
This is such weird cope

>>149310838
>>149311042
It turns out they were actually friends once she was just being a bitch, I think she even apologized or something

>>149311709
even Returns made Superman seem like kind of a dick tbqh. People talk about him snapping Zod's neck but him being a deadbeat dad and cucking some random guy into unknowingly raising his son is worse imo.

>>149309469
>Supes hasn't said "the American way" in his usual speech for 20 years
Why do you think that is?

>>149311734
The worst aspect is that according to Superman Returns Lois doesn't even know who's the kid's father. She gets surprised and shocked when the kid display his powers. Singer bright idea was that Superman II plot point, that Superman erased Lois' memory, stuck. He fucked her, erased her memory, and bounced. The reveal that the kid is his is meant to be viewed as this awesome twist.

But that also makes Superman into a fucking date rapist.

>>149311745
>But that also makes Superman into a fucking date rapist.

Now that we know about the stuff Bryan Singer was into, that doesn't seem too surprising.

>>149311742
because it was boomerslop only attached to him for cold war propaganda

>>149311745
>But that also makes Superman into a fucking date rapist.
No it doesn't. He had her consent at the time. He's just a mind rapist.

Which is nothing new. Just ask Batman.

>people saying Mr. Terrific steals the show
honestly happy for this nigga after how dirty he got done in X-Men First Class.

>>149311777
He just doesn't look like Mister Terrific for me. I can't see him as the suave and intelligent guy from the comics.

>>149311745
Lois just being pregnant and having no clue who the father is is pretty fucking dark honestly lmao. Imagine just waking up pregnant and having no recollection of having any recent sex. Would she just assume she was raped?

>>149311587
>[Astartes instrumentals playing]

>>149311781
personally I think he looks like a solid recreation of him with the mask on. we'll see though. Getting a remotely faithful Mr. Terrific in a live action blockbuster is kind of a luxury at all so I'll take anything.

>>149311587
Knowing how much of a geek he is he must be ecstatic although just a bit melancholic that he didn't get to be in something like that

>>149311782
The movie never answer that. That's why it is so odd, because in the movie while Superman/Clark Kent is trying to approach her and see where they are, she doesn't seem to register him as an ex-boyfriend, which makes their interactions awkward. She treats him as her old pal, Clark.

That movie was so fucking weird.

>>149311777
lmao, Why were the x-men movies so bad at killing characters off?

>>149305022
What a dumb fucking piece of propaganda. You can tell, because you only see it working on ESLs and children so far.

>>149311710
Not a cope, the shittiest movies you can think of still had positive social media embargoes

>>149305022
>>149312075
By which, I meant your post.

>>149305168
>mom i posted it again

>>149312083
Like what?

>>149305168
I just know you niggers are desperate to keep me from seeing it when you post the most obvious edits daily for months on end as your last bastion attempt to restore le sneederverse

>>149312113
There is no editing in that webm.

>>149306755
Okay. What's the issue? Why is it bad? Describing the camera isn't a reason.

>>149312126
The the zoom in and out, the constant shaking, the bad CGI, the angles chosen where you hardly see anything, not even the actor's body properly. Feels like a badly filmed vid for Tiktok.

IM I HATE GUNN I UHBOOOHOOOO UHBOOOOHOOOOSOMEBODY PWEEEEQAAAAAAAASEEE GIMME ATTENTION I NEEEEEEEEED ATTENTION I NEEEEE IT MIMMY MOMMY I NEEEEEE ARTENTION PWEAAAAAAAAAAASE CANCEW SUPWMAN AND GUNN! PEWWEEEEEEAAAA SE I AM TOO RETAEDED FOR THIS MOVIE NEED SNYDER NEED SNYDER WAAUHBOOOOOHOOOOHOOOOOOOO...

>>149312145
describing functions of the camera and intended stylized features of a shot. none of these are actual critiques. you're just inventing shit to nitpick for no reason other than to be a pathetic SAD SACK OF SHIT FAGGOT ON THE INTERNET YOU LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER AWWWWW THE SOOBERMAN MOOBIE ISNT WHUY SNFFFFFF WHUT I WUNNEDDDDDD WAAA BOOOOO GROW UP YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

>>149304969 (OP)
Movie gun be gud.

>>149312193
>describing functions of the camera and intended stylized features of a shot. none of these are actual critiques
You can criticize "intended stylized features of a shot" if they suck, homo

>>149312193
I'm describing what i find shitty about it.

Look, if you watched that webm and thought that shit looked great, that's okay. More power to you.
For me? That shit looked like ass. If i had to watch a movie where every time Superman is flying it looks like that? I would get a headache. All this zooming and shaking everywhere is too much for me.

>>149312201
You don't worry me. You simply disgust me. Parasocial loser. Absolutely zero chances at making it in life. All you care about is some dream you have of some old Jew fag getting his edgy superman movies back. That isn't cool, that's fucking lame. You're a faggot.

>>149312205
>More power to you.
either a tranny or a woman.

>>149312205
UHBOOOOHOOO BOOO HOPHOOO HIOOO WAAAA WAAAAA WAAAAAAA MOMMY SAVE ME FROM GUNN SAVE ME MOMMY

>>149312218
>Superman was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, who are both Jews
>Film is being made by James Gunn who is part Jewish
>Zack Snyder is a Christian Science
Retard can't even antisemite right

>>149312248
What the fuck is a Christian Science?

>>149312205
Yeah. What you prefer is pederasts fulfilling a 68 year old Jewish MTV director's BDSM fantasies with a DC theme loosely gelled on top. I'll take Gunn. Hell, I'd revive Schumacher before taking Snyder again. I used to like his stuff, a lot. You guys made this shit lame, gay, and obnoxious.

>>149312257
Who's talking about Snyder here?

>>149312248
Happy 14th birthday

>>149312275
Is this a bit or actual autism? Are you acting purposely over the top and retarded to try and make Gunn fans look bad, or something? If so, i'm not your target, man. I found the trailers and clips released thus far to be either goofy or cringe, with the look and CGI bad and poorly made. So you're not harming me. So i don't get it.

>>149312275
So 90% of the posts aren’t talking about him?

>>149312288
that's why you post the webm you complained about 100 times a day on multiple sites, yeah?

>>149312289
His name only comes up a few times less than Gunn's ITT

>>149312289
>>149312306
and don't even try to act like this gunn hate isnt the snyderfags. you cant tell me the spam im witnessing along with everyone else isnt happening. fuck you nigger

>>149312312
I don't hate Gunn. I just find the new Superman really, really goofy looking and the CGI really poorly made. I think this one of the worst looking movie Gunn have ever made, and i say this bafflingly because The Suicide Squad look okay. Great even. This movie looks almost worse than The Flash in some places.

>>149312312
People who have Gunn’s dick up their ass are not any better than the ones who have Snyder’s dick up their ass.

Did somebody say Snyder???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX3j--Jv7Pw

>>149312101
The Sony Marvel films from last year

>>149305346
>>149305325
It does look terrible but I've seen worse in the comics

>>149312312
The level of retarded you have to be to think everyone who doesn't like the new Superman movie is a Snyderfag... astounds me. I've been trying to get people in these threads to ignore the movies altogether and watch the old shows. Smallville. The Adventures of Superman. Superman and Lois. All of those mogg everything that's come out and should satisfy everyone. But spergs want to make this a "war" between Snyder and Gunn. Even though Snyder has proven he doesn't like the fans and Gunn doesn't like Superman and wants to kill off the Reeves Batman for no reason. Both of them suck.

>>149312563
>>149312526
The comics i don't mind much because really, you get a lot of shitty artist, but a movie this expensive and with a lot riding on it there's no excuse for such weird ass goofy scenes.
Speaking of old stuff, they could just check some of the shows you mentioned. I felt that the latest show, Superman and Lois, handled a lot of the flying scenes and VFX well, despite that show budget.

>>149312583
Even Supergirl did some flying scenes well. And the thing about that show and Superman and Lois' is that they didn't actually show a lot of flying. Clark/Kara would walk off screen and some wind would blow. Or they would have a cgi dot zooming around before a quick shot of the actor posing.
I heard the issue was it was a bitch to get in the harness for 20 episodes a year. Point is they still made it work.

>>149310899
Pedro Pascal also annoys me so I want this too. He really phoned it in in Gladiator 2.

This movie will slopp hard. Don't forget, those shill also liked the Flash.

Geez, what did Indians do to piss you guys so much?

>>149310875
Spy Kids 4?

>>149312712
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt. You probably speak English well. But can you at least proof-read your posts before defending the snyder movies?
>what did Indians do to piss you guys so much?
>piss you guys so much
Please. You do these movies no favors.

>>149312126
It looks like A.I. played at 2x speed

Only russkies and indians want an AMERICAN icon to fail.

>>149312712
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajmer_rape_case
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Delhi_gang_rape_and_murder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakti_Mills_gang_rape
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathua_rape_and_murder_case
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadia_nun_rape_case
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jhabua_nuns_rape_case
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Violence_against_women_in_India

>>149311793
He looks sick so far. Hopefully the movie lives of to this absolute kino shot

>>149312751
Since when 4chan cares about women?

>>149312682
anyone who brings up Flash in the context of this movie should automatically have their opinion discarded
circumstances of the release of this movie versus the release of Flash are vastly different

>>149312782
You're right, Mr Terrific looks pretty good. And I do like the team jackets.
Still not sold on the baggy Superman costume though.

https://x.com/DCUSuperNews/status/1942374438030213538 no fucking way right?

>>149312978
Schizos sure are hearing what they want to hear, huh?

>>149312964
Apparently Supes gets a more faithful and less baggy costume at the end, i.e., less random lines and no collar

HE WON

>>149312988
Doubt.

>>149312193
Breathe

>>149312989
Feels good man. Justice for Baby Joey.

>>149311793
So is that all glued onto his face? Does he put it on every morning?

We get a lot of superhero movies these days but this movie feels like an 'event' in a way that no superhero movie has felt since Avengers EndGame.

>>149305022
I hate to disappoint you, sister, but unless you're a native 'merican indjun (excuse me, 'first people'), you're all fucking illegal immigrants.

And when the AI murderbots take over, people like you, are are even worthless as batteries due to all the stupidity you would add to the matrix, will be the first to be liquefied as nutrients for the more useful meat bags.

>>149313014
>>149313002
>>149312989
Weird posts.

>>149311426
It was over before it even began.

>>149313032
This triggered the Snyder cucks so much cause they’re all turd worlders kek

>>149313092
I saw a Snyder fan shitting in the street the other day. He wasn't even brown so I was shocked.

when are we getting the RT reviews

>>149313118
Midnight tonight

>>149313118
3pm east

> We get a lot of superhero movies these days but this movie feels like an 'event' in a way that no superhero movie has felt since Avengers EndGame
Now this is a shill post. They can't even tell you why its a event like endgame just buzz words to create a narrative. Superman will flop at the box office.

>>149313214
Back to the sweatshop with you, Ravi

>>149312949
The same VFX team isn't it?

Where review?

>>149313345
Look up "Superman" on Google or Twitter and you'll get a bunch of early impressions.

>>149313354
I only get my reviews on 4channel.

when does the movie come out in the states? 'cause I'm working all weekend and if it's not out tomorrow I gotta wait until Monday or Tuesday to see it.

>>149313300
> Back to the sweatshop with you, Ravi
Kek the Gunnshill knows i am right. He's probably paid to call someone Indian every time a person uses logic to call someone out on the bullshit Superman reviews and say it will flop.

>>149313368
just saw the movie, there was a scene where superman looked straight at the camera and said "niggers tongue my anus" and then later there's a scene where Mr. Terrific tongues his anus. it was pretty hype, would recommend.

>>149304969 (OP)
Total Gunn death, with any hope.

>>149312978
Probably not but who knows why they would make such a similar sounding tune

>>149307060
Imagine them all bonking heads LOL

>>149311618
This isn't a cope, this is a fact.

>>149312682
That's a good point.

>>149313319
Yes it is.

>>149313023
Yikes copium

>>149313354
Also Letterboxd

>>149311777
Giraffe neck

>>149311742
Cause it's trendy to hate America within the lefty echo chambers such as Hollywood.
Ironically reflects on the box office. Majority male fanbase IP makes a movie where they shit on males and elevate women -> box office flop.
Movie shits on America in an nonsensical way while needing the local profits -> box office flop.

But the point however is that I wouldn't make superman a defender of "the American way" when he has removed that part from his catchphrase for the last two decades.

>thread about reviews
>zero reviews
Great

>>149312988
Can't believe they're still doing the NOW here's the iconic character you remember, but you'll have to watch the next film to see him in action (which also happened in James Bond, GI Joe, Wolverine movies, etc)

But I didn't hate suicide squad 2 so maybe it'll still be alright

>>149305022
Yep...its woke...

>>149313899
Superman was always "woke". It's about an immigrant who's main thing is altruism/empathy, come on.

Not watching this slop

It sounds like okay but forgettable just like aquaman

>>149313899
Ugh, I bet they're going to compare Lex Luthor to Trump when they're nothing alike.

>>149311587
He's probably going to fire his agent because this dude's been in nonstop bombs.

>>149313910
Why don't you retards ever get that it's your hyperbolic and stupid stances on politics that are being called woke and not empathy itself.
>Immigrant
Not really. He's a refugee raised by Americans and fully assimilated into society

>>149307084
Happy to find a post that sums up my attitude not far into thread. Tbqh normies ate up the Lilo and Stitch remake so while I'd like to be vindicated, I won't exactly be surprised if I'm proven wrong.

>>149313980
>tarding out because your kind have once again become the detestable moral puritans that everyone hates
lol must suck to realize you became the SJWs.
>he's a refugee
So an illegal.

>>149305032
Bullshit. MY last two digits will be the RT score.

>>149313910
Since when having empathy is woke?

>>149313980
LMAO

>>149313999
>Became the sjws
That didn't happen though. Media was already fairly progressive and then liberals cried about it but being extreme enough and now we have a neverending stream of woke shit.
>So he's an illegal
No the Kents secure legal paperwork for him in almost every incarnation of the character and even if they don't it's implicit in the fact that he's a u.s. citizen

>>149314030
Hey retards, post the reviews.

>>149314025
That’s a really good episode.

>>149314017
This is much more believable

>>149314030
You guys get offended at "wokeshit" every week in media where its existed forever. Superman has always been fucking woke, shut the fuck up. Why do you even pretend to like it, he was created by jews.

When do you fellas think someone will leak the movie?

And when do you fellas expect the honest reviews to fly in?

>>149313768
It’s always been part of his character you disingenuous shit stain. What part of coming from planet Krypton got lost on you all these years?

>>149314081
My bad, meant to reply to >>149313899

>>149313993
Lilo and Stitch is an IP the majority of Millennials and Gen Zers (The Average Age for Most Movie-Goers) have attachment towards. It was always gonna perform well financially.

>>149314118
>gen Z
>attachment to Lilo and Stich
Huh?

Superman is a refuge, the victim of the ultimate natural disaster, not an immigrant looking for gimmies and a better quality of life supplemented by the native tax paying population.

>>149314075
Why don't you guys know what words mean? Woke is mocking how comically stupid and out of touch with reality progressive ideas have become. You can make a fair pro immigrant argument in Superman. Modern liberals just won't.
>He was created by jews
Um okay? Nice non sequitur I guess

>>149314127
Gen Z are those born between 1997-2012. Lilo and Stitch came out in 2002, There's a large amount of Older Gen Zers who were either in Kindergarten or entered Kindergarten when it premiered. And younger Gen Zers likely saw reruns.

If you're a chud and you like Superman then you're a fucking retard.

>>149314152
Woke doesnt mean anything, its just tossed out at anything vaguely left of Hitler.

>>149314141
This. The right has become so brain broken, they don’t even realize immigrants are a distraction from the blood sucking lobbyists and the rotten politicians taking their money. They’re THAT retarded. They’ve become pussy ass snowflakes
>immigrant, REEE you can’t explore that aspect of his character because that’s my trigger word

>>149304969 (OP)
Critics are going to be all over the place. Some will love it for stupid reasons. Others will nitpick it's ridiculous mix of comic book nonsense and extreme melodrama. The Gunnfags will unironically flood the reviews and make sockpuppet accounts to keep the score as high as possible.

The reality will probably be that it's a pretty mediocre, uneven film that fails to fully deliver on any of its promises. New guy playing Superman won't really be enough Superman to really wow audiences. All the other Justice League members won't be in the film enough to feel like they deserved to eat up screentime. Ending will be sequel bait.

>>149314152
If Superman said this in the movie you retards would shit your pants.

>>149312145
Most of these critiques apply to MoS lmao

>>149313910
What part of "Truth, Justice, and the American Way" makes you think that Superman is an open borders and endless stream of H1B Visa slave caste supporter?

>>149314235
You have to update your talking points, your dear leader is pro H1B visas.

>>149314243
I don't fucking care. Nuke India.

>>149310899
anon so is this

>>149314249
>who cares that the people I vote for lie to me and act against my interests
lmao you cuckold.

>>149310899
They will both fail miserably and I will be happy.

>>149314222
People already made up their mind of the movie one way or another. Be it for political reasons, opinions on the directors involved, their perception of what Superman should be and more. The movie itself won’t change what they’re already thinking. Nobody is going into this movie wanting to love it only to hate it for what it is, or vice versa.

>>149310899
People loved Thunderbolts despite that being mediocre as hell and being a rehash of other better movies and games using that same “depression” premise. F4 looks a bit better than that, so it will blow people’s minds by just being slightly above average.

>>149314271
What people? No one went to watch it.

>>149314224
Why do you project so much? And how do you not understand modern Hollywood wouldn't make something this wholesome or that modern liberals don't practice this image either

>>149314261
I have a feeling you're going to be very unhappy :(

>>149314292
Hang on to that cope, you'll need it.

>>149314264
This is all gunn's fault for leaning into the "muh hopeful wholesome superman chungus" narrative

>>149314222
>The Gunnfags will unironically flood the reviews and make sockpuppet accounts to keep the score as high as possible.

Wow, cope and projection all at the same time.

>>149314285
>projection
You can go online and see chuds whininh about the movie being wokeshit lol

>>149314300
You'll know in two days, friendo :)

>>149314217
Why can't both be true? Corporatists have bloated the workforce so they can freely ignore worker rights and use the demand to lower wages. Workers' unions should be pro-deportation

>>149314259
I have my own beliefs and you don't even know if I voted. Update your own beliefs, retard.

>>149314345
>too pussy to admit you voted for a pro H1B candidate
LOOOOOOL

>>149314310
It's a thing that happens with every slightly controversial movie or show. People did it with TLOU season 2. They did it with Ironheart, too. There is never not a reason for someone to make a bunch of fresh accounts and drop a bunch of 10/10 reviews on something that just came out.

>>149314319
Anon you are projecting your feelings over the image you posted. It's wholesome and woke shit isn't. Learn reading comprehension

>>149314360
But TLOU seasons 1 and 2 (and the second game) were review bombed by chuds. Its the opposite of what you said.

>>149314374
>Woke shit isnt wholesome
But Superman is woke and wholesome.

>>149314380
>this gaslighting
season 1 was accepted, season 2 viewership dropped like the apocalypse happened the moment Joel died. It was so bad, Druckmann had to walk

Reviews don't mean shit if the box office ain't up to snuff. That's the measure of true success.

I feel once the honest reviews come in, reception will be a bit more lukewarm on the critics side and mixed on the GA side.

>>149314333
Is that what Superman’s doing? He feels a patriotic duty to uphold Justice because of his western values, instilled in him by his adoptive parents. He’s the ideal immigrant. If anything, rightoids should be pointing at this as an example. An ideal for Americans and immigrants alike to aspire to

>>149314405
>Season 1 was accepted
You're either lying or retarded, it got reviewbombed.

>>149314412
They can't even take their beloved Jesus as an example, how are they going to aspire to the values of a comic book character?

>>149313929
>Luthor isn't a pedophile, never declared bankruptcy
They're not alike at all

>>149314380
I didn't say it always work. I'd say they'd try it. TLOU got spammed with tons of 10/10 reviews even though the first season wasn't truly that good. Ironheart niggas tried their hardest, but couldn't outweigh the 1/10s.

>>149314425
Scroll down to the "by episode" ratings retard.

>>149309469
>pretending like you even noticed or cared until others brought it up

>>149314426
>They can't even take their beloved Jesus as an example
Good. There's nothing virtuous about being a doormat.

>>149314412
>He’s the ideal immigrant
Doesn't matter, he entered America illegally and he has to go

>>149309469
>But Supes hasn't said "the American way" in his usual speech for 20 year
Tell that to Gunn who is making deepcut references to Golden and Silver Age Superman nonsense. He opened that door, we're just walking through it.

>>149314431
>never declared bankruptcy
Always the same talking points with a lack of context.

>>149314472
Also why shouldn't Superman do the American way stuff more? It's a foundational element and the aversion to bringing it back is suspect

>>149314473
>unironic dickrider
Shouldnt you be busy saying how Epstein didnt have any clients?

>>149314473
>doesn't dispute the child molestation
I'm noticing

>>149314473
So Trump’s declared bankruptcy six times while Luthor hasn’t because he is canonically not retarded.

>>149314510
Thinking that supporting one of two political choices in America makes you a dick rider is a big reason you guys lost election

>>149309469
>stops saying "the American way" during the Bush administration
Based, supes really is a man of the American people

>>149314510
>unironic dickrider
Making alot of assumptions about me, hon. Not a good look.
>>149314534
>So Trump’s declared bankruptcy six times while Luthor hasn’t because he is canonically not retarded.
Learn how to read, bro.

>>149314543
9/11 really destroyed America and turned it into something vile

>>149313899
I'll wait for the JesterBell one.

If this movie flops, I'm clowning on Superfags for life.

>>149314534
It's because he's not real and comic writers don't know how bankruptcy laws work.

>>149314235
The "American Way" bit

>>149314538
I assume you're a retard who cant read replies.

Folks are trying to kill the thread to bump limit with political BS

>>149309469
And yet everyone knows it's his catchphrase. They can make him not say it but they can't erase history.

>>149314544
I did and what I read was that Trump racked up debt and got the government to bail him out six times while Luthor has never done that because he’s not retarded enough to put himself in that situation.

>>149314578
>Folks
Back to tumblr with you

>>149304969 (OP)
As to copy paste someone else pointing this out on this other thread. Who the fuck at WB letting a retard James Gunn market a blockbuster? Shouldn’t those retard Learn their lessons from blue beetle director starting a fight with Mexicans on twitter over them rejecting Latinx? Making blue beetle marketing political killed people little interest on the film.

>>149314575
No I read and understood. It's why I told you thinking people dickride Trump is a reason he's your president

>>149314578
Let the wormbrains work out their nervousness, they're going to have nukes go off in their brains in a couple of days.

>>149314588
>while Luthor has never done that because
He's a fictional fucking character that acts however the writers want him to act.

>>149314597
The guy is dickriding Trump though. I dont think you can read.

>>149309497
>have him a huge afro
Anon what are you talking about? He just has a flattop like on the cover of JSA 70?

>>149314591
>Who the fuck at WB letting a retard James Gunn market a blockbuster?
Even without the retarded political shit James Gunn been saying. I think WB made a mistake for not letting Micheal Bay direct Superman. He would’ve gave us a traditional patriotic Superman movie that appeals to the mainstream audiences in been America and international.(Transformers was somehow both pro-American and pro-China at the same time)
>Shouldn’t those retard Learn their lessons from blue beetle director starting a fight with Mexicans on twitter over them rejecting Latinx?
DC better off making a Bane movie Viet blue beetle. Growing up Mexicans hate blue beetle for being a pussy.

>>149314610
>The guy is dickriding Trump though
Nope, you're just a nut.

>>149314563
based. fuck superman

>>149314569
Slave castes are not the American Way.

>>149314610
He isn't though. You just HAVE to have a negative reaction because it's Trump. It's the kind of programming that lost you the election

>>149314623
He got offended and posted a wikipedia article defending Trump when someone said the pedo went bankrupt. You're retarded, bro.

>>149314607
Right, Lex has never been written in a retarded enough manner to make him a good Trump analog.

>>149314646
>He got offended
Nope
>>149314646
>posted a wikipedia article defending Trump when someone said the pedo went bankrupt.
You were spreading misinfo and I corrected you. Simple as.

>>149314678
Pretty much. Lex is just Trump if Lex had downs.

>>149314630
But slavery literally built America

>>149314689
You're so upset that you're confusing me with another anon.

>>149314690
Lex Luthor was born into poverty and became a self-made billionaire, he didn't just get it handed to him by daddy like Trump

>>149314722
Lex is a genius. Trump is, well....

>>149314697
Don't try to weasel out of this, bro.

>>149314549
I mean, when you send your own population into a several decade long war and blow almost $8 trillion on it just to admit you lied about why, then send the economy into a housing crisis and blow another 700 Billion, you do kinda rape the population's trust and belief in the country.

>>149314696
It literally didn't. At most, it built the the business of wealthy southern plantation owners, but the majority of farmers and businesses could not afford slaves and would not entrust them to do any high skill infrastructure work.

>>149314734
>he's so fucking offended that he thinks I posted this
>>149314431
lol get off that Trump dick dude, its made you loopy

>>149314739
>but the majority of farmers and businesses could not afford slaves and would not entrust them to do any high skill infrastructure work.
This is the shit they always leave out. Slaves were a rich-man's commodity. The poor whites couldn't afford any of them, and likely worked alongside them.

>>149314739
>pretending the North never had slaves
hahaha oh wow

>>149314758
Its so funny how many southern white boys died in the civil war fighting for the slave owners when they were just total poorfags.

>>149314753
Take a break from the PC, bro. Go out and get some sun. It'll do some good for the mind.

>>149314758
It was like the Amazon business model before Amazon ever existed. Rich people could afford to burn more money than their poorer competitors could. They'd take the small loss from buying up entire field's worth of slaves because it meant they could out-compete literally everyone else until they were the only ones making any profit, since no other competing businesses could keep up.

>>149314777
it's funny because nothing has changed in this regard to the present day

>>149314412
But they do, what are you talking about? Have you ever listened to any of them?

>>149314224
Is this "Slap A Jap" era Superman?

>>149304969 (OP)
This movie is going to make all the bad people very, very mad.

>>149314781
>n-no you must be the anon who posted that!
Get a life bro, I guarantee you spend way too much time online defending Trump since you've saved images damage controlling his banrupcies.

>>149314777
It’s because having a class of people below them made poor whites feel better about their own shit lives. You can see still see this phenomenon in nearly every aspect of modern politics

>>149314797
>Do libs actually listen to right wing talking points
Kek we all know the answer to this "no"

>>149314815
>Get a life bro
Already have.
>I guarantee you spend way too much time online defending Trump since you've saved images damage controlling his banrupcies.
Again with the assumptions. One image and you go nuts. Touch grass, bro.

>>149314850
You've never seen the Daily Show?

>>149314848
Yep, its why Texas has a yearly mass death event but keeps voting in the same people.

>>149314853
>he's still going
that bankrupcy anon really triggered you huh.

>>149314858
>Why yes my comedy show does in fact address your concerns
Liberals are beyond parody

>>149314900
I'm just laughing because I knew this thread would devolve into a Trump thread the minute I saw it. They're scared lol.

>>149314911
If you didn't want to become associated with comedy, you shouldn't have voted for a clown

>>149314951
Yes Trump's a clown and you guys still lost to him. Says a lot about the lefts radical beliefs

>>149314797
If anything, comparing the guy who is fully naturalized and puts effort in every day to live up to the American values his adoptive parents instilled in him to foreigners invading and trying to unofficially claim territory for their culture and warring with the government over their nonexistent right to do so, would be incredibly insulting to Superman.

>>149315004
>fully naturalized
He's an illegal

>>149314918
(You) mean (You)'re going around starting arguments about Trump in random threads to get more (You)s?

>>149304969 (OP)
I can’t fucking wait to see it. Superman means hope. Don’t be a depresso.

>>149315011
Not according to those adoption papers, schlomo.

>>149315017
>Superman means hope. Don’t be a depresso
Ew

>>149304969 (OP)
>what's your expectations?
People begging Zack Snyder and Henry Cavill to return.

>>149315028
>he doesnt know Superman is a jewish creation
Oh no, its a tourist...

>>149315012
Nope. That was my only post mentioning him. But I can be your boogeyman if you really want <3

>>149315046
NTA but you sound terminally online

>>149315039
Somebody should create an AI image of the two of them wearing tattered clothes, standing on the side of the road holding up a sign that says "Will edgelord for money".

>>149315053
I am, I'm every person you've ever had an argument with on the internet. I really get around, as we boogeymen tend to do.

>>149314993
It more says what America has degraded into
>>149315028
Those adoption papers are based on forged documents, the Kent family are criminals who belong in jail

>>149315060
Same but with gunn and corenswet and a sign that says "Will Guardians of the galaxy for food"

>>149315071
Cringe

>>149315081
>It more says what America has degraded into
Yes progressive values became so bad and radicalized we needed a clown to push back.

>>149315096
I'm also every thing that's ever made you cringe, Mr. NTA.

I haven't watched a superhero movie since Far from Home and I don't plan on changing that.

>>149310744
Cavillman got his ass beat too, Gunncel.

>>149315361
KWAB

>>149312312
Anyone with working eyes should hate this latest abortion.

>>149314233
That's a nice massively compressed gif. Got a webm?

>>149305859
>>149305186

>>149315361
Love that bitch like you wouldn't believe.

>>149315372
He's still learning.

>Ctrl+F "Snyder"
>42 results
Like a clock.

>>149305325
>If you want a movie which looks like shit, see Man of Steel, where everything is all grey, muted, and miserable.
It was also dynamic and knew what the fuck it wanted to be, reddit-kun.

>>149305186
Did the studio also force him to make everything retarded and cram in a bunch of shit that didn't belong?

>>149315763
Injustice had better cinematics than this garbage