Should Lanolin get her own mini-series?
Only if the writers toss the feminism aside and actually give her character flaws. That and make her a flirty cunt in order to cope with her shitty upbringing. Also, giving her a nice curve and a pair of titties to oogle at wouldn't hurt either.
>>149324777 (OP)she should get fisted
>>149324830>Also, giving her a nice curve and a pair of titties to oogle at wouldn't hurt eitherShe already has those, courtesy of Adam Bryce Thomas.
>>149324830>actually give her character flawsShe already has those and that's why she's the most hated character ever.
>>149324994Eh, still kinda modest I'd say.
>>149325025I'd say she's more hated because she gets away with a lot of shit and hardly gets punished if at all. If she's going to act like a cunt, then why not just make her a villainess like Lien-Da or that Fox chick in the old Archie comics?
Make this a hot, hated bitch. Make the fans love her and hate at the same time, ya feel me? Get the dudes into it.
>>149325025I have to agree. It's not her that's the problem, but the Restoration. Her character sits in its orbit and contributes to nothing but it; yet it has yet to serve any of the themes of the series. Its inclusion has been a black hole that devours everything the writers manage to scrounge up from the conceptual bedrock.
>>149325246basically the writers have no fuckin' clue what to do with Lanolin.
>>149324777 (OP)>>149324830>>149325112The rythmic jingling of Lanolin's bell
>>149325304I want her bell to jiggle my bells until the clock strikes twelve.
>Elect yourself leader
>Cry because noone is doing what you say
>everyone pats you on the back and says you can still be the leader
Rinse and repeat
>>149324830I'd rather fuck Surge, desu
>>149325341I guess I just like me some bitchy chicks once in a while, but Surge is a good choice too. Although, I dunno would I rather be nagged to death by a moody sheep who needs to badly get laid or tasered by a cyborg with mindbreak syndrome?
Tough call.
>>149324777 (OP)Yes. I really want more of the sheep.
>>149325398this, just post Lanolin being a hot little puffy cupcake topped with frosting.
She poppin' off into her evil route.
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>>149324777 (OP)>Should Lanolin get her own mini-series?If there was a mini series involved Lanolin and her crew I would probably read it, but for me its mostly for Tangle. I feel like Tangle is a more fun character to site through.
>>149324777 (OP)Let's be honest, nobody in IDW deserves their own miniseries.
All the good characters are dead, and noone deserves a Sonic Universe style spinoff, all the IDW characters suck.
>>149324777 (OP)it would probably save boom! comics if they did.
>>149325362Lanolin
>bitches constantly>probably won't kill youSurge
>will talk shit but expects you to join in>probably ends up killing you, but accidentallyTough choice.
>>149325884Well after complaining for hours, Lanolin would probably be one of those chicks that apologise with excessive physical affection. So, endless cuddle session while listening to really cringe-worthy tiktok videos. So typical modern woman behavior.
>>149324777 (OP)>LanolinAnd here I thought you were talking about US Acres
Lanolin getting hated for getting tricked by Mimic is so unfair. She even apologized. What, you want every character to be flawless and never make mistakes?
>>149325112>I'd say she's more hated because she gets away with a lot of shit and hardly gets punished if at allYou just described Sonic. Metal Virus is all his fault because he let Metal Sonic go after he tried to kill everyone. Metal goes right to Eggman and helps him immediately regain his memories. Then Sonic gets mad at Metal Sonic like it was some unforeseen betrayal. Shadow wanted to kill Eggman when he had amnesia but Sonic stopped him. They didn't even take him to jail or to the Restoration or any place near so they could keep an eye on him and swiftly respond at the first sign of trouble. They just left him in a remote village for him to get kidnapped. Surge wanted to kill Starline and Eggman and Sonic fought her because he didn't want her to kill them. He doesn't even try to form an alliance. He tells her no and then they fight. Sonic takes on the hilariously low stakes villain Clutch with the aid of Eggman of all people who then kidnaps Clutch and is now putting him to work. IDW is nothing but Sonic making things worse and escaping blame. Even worse is that anyone that gets on his case is then shit on by everyone.
>>149325998long winded apologies aren't exactly an entertaining or deeply moving conclusion to what was essentially Lanolin taking the side of a murdering bastard, even if it may have been accidental. It was extremely boring at best and people are quite frankly sick of women in media getting a slap on the wrist for doing wrong.
>>149324777 (OP)The losers on /co/ can write a better Sonic series (which would probably be as boring as Sonic Prime) , but I've seen comic books written by /co/fags and while they're mediocre their execution is a million times better due to not talking and appealing to the mentally handicapped and not mistreating 5 year olds.
Sonic's writers don't have children and aren't intellectuals, not even honest people.
>>149326019Yeah, Sonic should've been punished too in one form or another for his idealistic naivety. I'm not excusing Sonic for anything. However, I can understand the hesitation due to sega being overly protective of how Sonic himself is portrayed. Lanolin on the other hand, not being a mainstay character, should have much more freedom, in terms of the writer coming up with an interesting scenario, where character development from drama could form and evolve, but the writers don't capitalise on it. A lot of readers are sick of Ian and Evan making excuses for their lackluster conclusions and bare boned story lines.
Lack of consequences, drama, interactions, it pales in comparison to the Archie run. IDW is frustratingly boring. Now you can say it's sega being cunts, or ideological limitations, but the writer's job is to find a way to write around these limitations to still manage to make an interesting enough story to attract readers and to maintain the current fan base. However, Ian and Evan don't seem to be capable of having the talent to do that.
>>149326105During the "satanic panic" of the 80s and 90s, comics and movies and show and other media were also creatively oppressed by moral busybodies, but somehow, we still got a lot of decent entertainment that seem to still hold today. A lot of young people flock to the old games and films of past decades. So I hate shitting on people's work, but many creatives today in major media companies lack natural talent or even learned experience and if they do, it's severely handicapped by extreme political bias.
People aren't buying Western comics for a reason and IDW is apart of the problem.
Despite my criticisms though, I still love the bitchy sheep's design and the potential she has. I like fictional bad girls.
>>149326105IDW can write some great stories for TMNT, but when it comes to Sonic, they are severely hampered on having such a small creative circle to stay in they aren't allowed to step outside of. And when its 90% of the cast who aren't allowed to deviate from the games, it makes it sabotaged from the start.
>>149326249I'm they're allowed to deviate from the games to a reasonable degree, they already have, but they keep a few of the themes in place to stay within sega's standards, I'm sure they could bend the rules even further if they wanted to. They likely just don't have any ideas on how to do it.
>>149324777 (OP)Why? To see how worse she can screw up?
>>149326267I've talked to a member of the IDW staff, and he said often Sega will delay the shit out of the comics due to everything being nit picked to shit, and the language barrier being a problem. That it goes through their japanese merchandising branch.
>>149324830>her shitty upbringingWhat? Was that something that happened? She already has flaws, its being an idiot and unfit to lead a squad of soldiers.
>>149326310Amy was originally the leader, but the readers bitched she wasn't leader material. Now Lanolin isn't good enough? What, you want everything to just be like Sonic Heroes every issue?
>>149326310It's implied in some official art that Lanolin's mom and her dad had something happen, which would help explain Lanolin's disposition, but it's never mentioned in the comic from what I saw.
>>149326328Ditch the whole fucking thing. We don't need the Restoration. This concept was shit even back in Archie.
>>149326286Let's say I take your word for it, why even bother to even work in such a climate if it's that claustrophobic? These people must love the pain of being red-taped to death. No reasonable person would want bother producing this stuff if sega is as tyrannical as you say.
>>149326356Most of the staff working on Sonic are fans who grew up with Archie.
>>149326019>hilariously low stakes villain ClutchEven more than Surge and Kit, even more than Belle or Starline, this is what I consider the nadir of IDW comics wasted potential.
>>149326360I have a hard time believing that with how disrespectful they were when they ended the Archie series.
>>149326356Many who also work on IDW are aiming for higher jobs in Marvel and DC.
>>149326396It's a competition to see who can stuff the most corporate dick in them then. Maybe sega should sell off this IP to people who actually give a shit about. Assuming what you're saying is accurate.
>>149326409You might get what you want. IDW has been struggling for years, and Udon has offered to take on Sonic.
>>149326412Well damn, if sega isn't willing to expand the brand to guys again, which were the majority who bought this stuff back then. Might as well do that or just shelve the IP until less cowardly CEOs come in.
>>149326286>IDW staff >Udon>ArchieDoesn't matter who's "in charge" if they keep hiring the same mentally retarded writers instead of blacklisting them from the IP.
>>149326286The writers have nothing to do with that the writers suck regardless of what they do. However Sega are a bunch of cunts who act like a bipolar lazy boss who says "just make it good... NO not like that. I want this comic to feature Amy, Cream maybe their robot too instead of only Rouge, Omega and ... do not use Shadow as a main character .. you can use him as a secondary character ... what is this jobbing you speak? I don't care how hard he jobs just don't make him cry. Sonic & Shadow aren't allowed to cry, no I don't understand wtf jobbing is, just shut up and write it. These fucking nerds and their americanisms. Of course Shadow loses, he's a villain, but cool villains aren't allowed to cry, but they are allowed to lose. IF I READ THE COMIC? BITCH DO I LOOK LIKE I'M 12? I don't care if it's my IP, I'm on the economic side. I'm not a manchild. Do I look like I play Pokegayman? Put a chicken in it and make it gay just sell those comics to those dirty ameritards who don't know what's good. We're not selling it to Japs who have different expectations"
>>149325112Girls arenโt allowed to be evil in IDWnic. Just look at how fast they redeemed Surge.
>>149327196She was never really evil. She was kidnapped, brainwashed, angry at the person that did that to her, and was a nuisance at worst. Even almost killing Sonic isn't that different from half the people that are now Sonic's friends. Surge was a shitty villain. Her only appeal was in how bad she was at being a villain. Then she gets the taste of the hero life and got that dopamine hit from being cheered on. And she still gets to harass Sonic.
>>149325461>I feel like Tangle is a more fun character to site through.Missed opportunity to pair her with Sonic. Just the two going on adventures and fucking shit up on the way.
>>149324777 (OP)Only if it's about her having sex with...
*deep breath*
... HUUUUUUUUUUUUMAN MEEEEEEEEEN!
>>149327196>Girls arenโt allowed to be evil in IDWnic. Just look at how fast they redeemed SurgeIt's that tumblr mentality. Makes everything so lame and very fucking gay.
>>149326286Isn't this bullshit since IDW delays their other comics too?
>>149327411Comics from all publishers get delayed. That Shadow special is going to come out a year after it was supposed to. I wonder why.
>>149327423Sega is extra anal with Shadow.
>>149327808Why would someone pour corn syrup all over her?
>>149327808She should bully me (segsually)
This character is so unimportant, she was essentially just a vehicle to make Mimic's schemes possible, and now they are done with him so she's just a leftover. There was no reason to promote her like a major character.
It's okay to have minor characters in some roles.
>>149328499They needed a Sally.
>>149324777 (OP)How many Sonic characters get side stories?
>>149328572They didn't get one. Silver is the only main game cast member who even cares she exists.
Knuckles literally had a "who?" reaction to Any mentioning her.
I forgot, what emotion that sonic himself legally canโt show is she used for?
>>149328786I thought it was loneliness for a minute when they went out of their way to show her confiding with Mimic's false persona because no one else liked being around her. But now I'm not sure that was intentional.
>>149324777 (OP)Nah, barely has a developed character let alone any stand out traits like powers and skills in a fight
>>149325449>>149327808Shadow's a lucky dude
>>149328971Shadow is for Tikal
I wish I could get my oc into official Sonic work! ABT is a talented guy
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There's no way Lanolin wasnt an Archie port with the way she's introduced and characterized before the mandates leashed her potential, not to mention ABT's illustrations. She would have been a new antihero post-Archie metal virus if that had happened.
>giga-PTSD from having home destroyed by metal virus
>joins FF to get a chance at Eggman for what he did
>needs Eggman dead, nothing else matters
>gets increasingly frustrated the more they do anything other than finding and ending eggman
>hides her true feelings behind a plastic smile and barely contained aggression
>eventually loses it when they finally track him down and some stunt sonic pulls let's him get away
>calls the FF out for never focusing on the real mission and bails, saying she'll do it herself
From there she either has an arc where she learns to let go of her trauma or she becomes Jack from Final Fantasy Origin
>>149328971Shadow and Lanolin just bond over coffee
I understand the Mimic confusion, but I still don't understand the purpose behind having her accidentally destroy a building when trying to apprehend a masked Sonic. They even showed her react like she knows she fucked up. But what was this supposed to tell us about her character?
The Mimic situation could be a matter of trust, needing to get to know her comrades better, learning everyone's expertise etc...
But destroying the building just made her seem extremely incompetent, in a way experience can't fix.
Everyone who hasn't read the IDW comics wouldn't give a shit about these characters and they would be right
>>149324777 (OP)I think she should, yes.
I think you're in here, mother fucker.
Where's the Sonic Pinball bonus video?
>>149330086Did I really type "think" instead of "know"? God damn my brain is a potato.
>>149329875They couldโve given that character arc to any of the reboot FF OCs. They wouldnโt need to create a whole new character for that.
>>149331182Disney buys them.
>>149331182Lanolin marries a HUMAN MAN.
>>149331182Tangle and Whisper suck face on the corner of the last page.
I'm invested in this coffee story.
>>149331742IMAGINE THE SMELL
>>149324777 (OP)>Should Lanolin get her own mini-series?I'd settle for ten pages of Surge suckin' on those fat sheep tits, maybe some light mutual ass-eating.
>>149331818I like Surge, but only I get to nurse from the sheep tits
>>149331804I'm guessing this was from ABT's patreon or something? He's posted a similar rough sketch Lanolin comic on bluesky.
>>149331883You can't emit precise electrical discharges to stimulate Lanolin's more sensitive erogenous zones, so the only thing you get to suck is shit.
>>149331971>You can't emit precise electrical discharges to stimulate Lanolin's more sensitive erogenous zonesSure I can, all I need is a car battery and two jumper cables.
what does our Lord and Savior CWC think of IDWnic?
>>149332053Cwc only has very surface level knowledge of Sonic
>>149331889Twitter. He shares a lot of his stuff there, including a comic about Lanolin having intrusive thoughts about killing Sonic. Also plenty of cheesecake. Perk of having your own OC in a Sonic comic in that you can draw her with tits as big as you want and even with feet.
>>149331804That was the longest coffee commercial I watched/read.
>>149329875Lanolin can also be seen as Tangle and Whisper in one box, which is both disappointing (can't we just have breakout girls 1 and 2 get stories?) and infuriating (twice the potential and half the screen time).
>>149325822so... The creator just wanted to remake USAcres!Lanolin as a sonic character in some way? Both girls are pretty much the same.
>Same name Sheep>No nonsense bitches>Considered the antagonists sometimes.Its way too much of a coincidence.
>>149332134Also any reason for him to ship her with Shadow?
>>149332202Considering Shadow in the games keeps looking at Rouge's breasts, I can see him at least thinking about doing that.
>>149332440No, the creator wanted another Sally Acorn.
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>>149332440Neither creator had any vision of what Lanolinโs role in the story was supposed to be. It seems like sheโs going to be a girlboss at first but nearly every decision she makes ends up being the wrong one. She never actually gets any real focus, sheโs always overshadowed by some other event the writers deemed more important like Tangle hurting Whispers feefees. Her biggest role was holding the idiot ball for Mimic so Evan can pretend heโs a master manipulator. Now sheโs shuffled back into the background where she will continue to get zero focus.
>>149332202>I'm the coolest
Sonic fandom is odd. They're jumping the gun constantly and it leaves them with selective memory. That contributes into Lanolin hate, and just a lot of general opinions in the fandom.
>>149329875She wasn't, but she was another misguided attempt to introduce a "Sally" character. Mimic was the character was concepted to be in Archie, I believe.
>>149333291A large part of the Sonic fanbase hates anything not made by Sega of Japan. Anything that isn't made exclusively with Japanese hands is horrible and not canon and probably Ian's fault. They'll go on social media and complain about something, usually wrong, and others will argue with them and all of this will get thousands of views and retweets and that's why the majority of online discourse is bitching over minor details and differences of opinion.
>>149324777 (OP)like a lewd doujinshi? Sounds great.
I want more Sonic stories that feel like the red shirt shaggy saga where they were more willing to stick with a really limited cast to try out new ideas.
Most of the cast does kind of force a story to feel a certain way, Knuckles, Shadow, even Eggman, so narrowing it down to just Sonic, Tails, and Amy (if you must you can include the remaining members of Team Rose if you want anyone else to show up) gives you a huge amount of narrative potential to just do what you want.
We got something of that with the storybook titles and possibly Blade of Courage as well.
As much as it was hated I loved the Red Shirt Shaggy era of Scooby Doo for how bizarre it was and I want to see something like that for Sonic.
>>149333417just read the manga bro
>>149324777 (OP)Yes, her biggest issue is not having enough time showcasing her character and thought process. Most of her current panel time is really doubling as Tangle panel time and it shows. Just look at the Phantom Rider arc, we get ten trillion moments to look into Tangle's thoughts and we only really see Lanolin's at the very end. Which is why the ending doesn't have Tangle reflect at all either, the audience already knows her pov so her actions are understandable while Lanolin's don't appear that way.
Who has the pic of her just woken up, at her kitchen table, with an ash tray full of cigarette butts and a late rent notice?
>>149333348Your explanation is a thinly-veiled and biased vent
>>149333831How do you not know about this? Some of these threads are based on shit people complain about on social media.
>>149329996More of a funny rival.
>>149333894Could be the third member of the group. Sega likes them threes.
>>149327219Being sympathetic doesn't have shit to do with being antagonistic. The target audience cannot see a person as a threat without first rationalizing them as a dissident.
>>149333512>her biggest issue is not having enough time showcasing her character and thought process.Who gives a shit? Where's the action? The adventure? Where the fuck is Sonic?
>>149326019>>149326364I fucking hate how wasted Clutch is, this big business villain could have easily work.
>secretly finance Starline because despite his posturing, he is smart>ok with Eggman coming back because he can keep scrapping up his tech and using it for his own means>finance Surge and Kit's creation in hopes of having his own "heroes" to be the face of his company, having them upstage Sonic and Tails for a new face for the people to have hope in>have it so that any ties Clutch had to Starline be erased, making it easier for him to control the two>outright let them play hero, just have them do it under his banner>use mooks to run his operations like the Chao Races and meeting with the skunk bros>let the Restoration run its course, but slowly replace people in it with his own men so he can control it from the insideWe have villains like Kingpin and Penguin to pull from, it really shouldn't have been that hard to make him effective.
>>149331182I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG!
>>149329875>or she becomes Jack from Final Fantasy OriginSpeaking of Final Fantasy...
>>149334030>sympatheticNow who said anything about sympathy? More like pathetic as a villain. Surge was never a good villain. Her only good motivation was that Starline wanted her to be bad. When she broke off from him she lost all purpose in being a villain. After that she was a joke. She's too popular to be another boring villain you see once every few years so of course they're going to make her a hero and have her join the OC cast.
>>149334060I'd pay her rent in exchange for raw sex and free access to her tits and armpits
>>149324830>and actually give her character flawsbut her entire character is pure flaws.
>>149334041>Who gives a shit? Me
>Where's the action? The adventure? Wherever the writers want it to be, it's not very hard to make happen with a little imagination. If you're worried about it revolving around a boring construction project or the restoration, don't, Jewel is right there as the most kidnappable character of all time. If it were to revolve around said project instead of anything more interesting that'd be entirely the writer's fault.
>Where the fuck is Sonic?Sonic wouldn't need to be there for a side issue but it's not like it'd be impossible to include him either, just give him something to do.
>>149331182They adapt Sonic Frontiers.
>>149331182Through some events that make it somehow less insane Whisper will shoot Lanolin. She's a wolf and she's a sheep, it is inevitable. This will lead to new trauma, and the ending is Tangle curing it with the power of lesbian/friendship.
>>149331182Sonic runs off to another adventure. All the game characters follow him. The OCs stay behind and act like they'll see him again or that they'll ever appear again.
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>>149333679She's for Shadow.
>>149334934shipping-fags are a cancer on every fandom.
>>149334978I want to guide Lanolin by a rope and feed her some delicious hay. With that said, she would eat a plate full of hay with a big mug of coffee or sparkled water.
>>149334978I'll eat the dirt off her boots when she steps on my face with a tired/grumpy look on her face.
>>149335034shadow is that kind of character that can be shipped with anyone
>>149335034Sheep is good, but im jealous of ABT's character. Can we pivot to the funny bunny?
>>149335147EXCEPT Sonic, or any male character really. That shit gives me the heebie jeebies.
Speaking of Cream and Lanolin, I'd like to see them interact at some point. Lanolin's no-nonsense attitude coupled with Cream's bubbly and optimistic everything could make for a fun team. It'd be like with Tangle but featuring less Whisper-fueled drama and more reason for Lanolin to be lenient on her partner's naive outlook.
>>149334046Don't pretend that doesn't describe EVERY new character in this awful comic.
>>149335147>shadow is that kind of character that can be shipped with anyoneHe'd be the complete opposite. Bro's autistic as fuck when it comes to affection. He didn't even hug Maria. MARIA. He also wouldn't give a single fuck about anything that comes out of your mouth if it ain't relevant to his mission.
>>149334046To be fair, every single character feels like they were a failed opportunity. Good OC designs, very bad execution. These writers aren't fit for their job at all. Likely because they don't know how to write feminine characters and refuse to write masculine characters. Ian and Evan literally believe men and women are the same and that totally makes the cast bland as FUCK.
Shoot AOSTH fags
Burn SATAM fags
Skin Archie fags
Throw acid at Fleetway fags
Stomp Underground fags heads
Drown Boom fags
Eviscerate Prime fags
Cut in half vertically (starting at the crotch) IDW fags
Impale anally Movie fags and letting them rot
>>149335483We should have known the moment they started advertising Tangle that things were going to go south, she was a blatant attempt for them to start writing in Archie-style.
>>149335411>Don't pretend that doesn't describe EVERY new character in this awful comic.Oh, I sadly know. Looking at you Tangle.
>>149335483Jewel is a gem (ha) and she should have been an archeologist. Hell, if Sega wasn't so anal about anything past Forces being allowed, I could easily see her being a main character in a Frontiers adaptation.
>>149335726Frontiers is a narrative ball of wax that I can't see going well in comic form.
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Sonic comics should be written like Jojo's Stardust Crusaders (Minus all the death, of course)
I don't even know what else to say, that's basically it. If you're based, you'll get it instantly. The perfect combination between shounen and rubberhose cartoons, kind of like Kingdom Hearts. Episodic with monster-of-the-week battles that last around 4 issues (much like in Sonic Universe), and they have to be actual threats, not the gay octopus who has a knife he can't even use, Sonic needs to get all beat up and actually fear for his life. All while following a general arc with a final villain. That's it. They also go to actually interesting places and not "Random ass village in the middle of fucking nowhere (What do they eat?)"
>>149335839I heard somewhere they are averse to doing story arcs due to drop off of interest. Many complained the metal virus was too long.
>>149336070>Many complained the metal virus was too long.Not only did it fail to justify lasting as long as it did but it was made even longer by bringing in the Deadly Six of all things.
>>149333348>is horrible and not canon and probably Ian's faultWell, the last one is kind of true...
How about a Tomb Raider style story of Lanolin uncovering a race of Dark Gaia mutants underground, and has to fight them off.
>>149334060That's the one. Wouldn't be suprised if she's slipping a different kind of creamer in that coffee
>I kinda of want to see her with a max payne leather jacket now
>>149326371It wasn't exactly their fault it got cancelled anon
>>149336195Why is she Swiss.
She needs to have more sexy outfits.
>>149336070They stopped doing story arcs because the comic could be cancelled at any moment and the storyline would be left on a cliffhanger forever.
>>149336195When Ian drops the lesbian fetish and the pretend-feminist act and sega stops hating their male costumers.
>>149336102I don't think that was a bad call, seeing Starline undone by his own metaknowledge and lack of real experience was fun.
(yeahyeah, AI slop but I still liked how it turned out.)
Goth Lanolin is too rare.
>>149336341>I don't think that was a bad callForcing the Deadly Six into an already bloated and strung out story was a bad call.
Only if she is enslaved by Eggman.
>>149336398That's the thing though, I can't think of a better way to conclude that arc. It was kind of a static fact for most of it happening, so how do you set up an ending for it?
>>149336498>>149336385>mobians.aigen locally or stop, these are awful.
>>149336477First off I don't give a fuck about Starline's role in the story. He's a lackey. Just have Tails come up with a way to reverse things and Sonic is about to set it off and Eggman comes crashing in with some final boss type robot. Sonic beats it, maybe something extra happens and its a race against time to stop the zombie horde. Or maybe Eggman realizes he fucked up without the need for the Deadly Six and he begrudgingly works with Sonic to save the day. It's not supposed to be deep. It's a zombie story and once it gets long enough it's time to pack it up and end the arc.
>>149336520It can pop out some good stuff now and then, these turned out pretty well I'd say.
>>149336385>>149336498Mobians.ai has come a long way from not that long ago where I only saw fucked up looking monstrosities that made even early AI look good.
>>149336195Probably will happen one day, albeit Lanolin likely wouldn't be there. The other girls just don't ever invite her out, makes sense the first time for the fire camp thing because she wasn't major yet but she wasn't invited to the summer beach party either. If we ever get one you'll get a flashcut to the new Emeraldville base with her doing all of Jewel's paperwork before we jump back to the girls having the time of their life.
>>149336553Agreed. I stuck around with MAI for a long time and good lord, their models have jumped in quality. Maybe not SonicDiffusion and fluffysonic, but with enough elbow grease I can get some good gens.
Those two still need some work, but the quality has indeed improved, I'll give these guys credit.
>>149336539I can thread this needle. He hooks up the Warp Topaz to the faceship and starts mass-scattering them, but it backfires and explodes the virus still in production. He gets turned and left behind while eggy escapes with the Topaz and Metal.
All the same narrative beats, shorter endgame, and sets up the Topaz being able to counter the metal virus at the last minute.
Where is the pregnant art
>>149334046I love how because it was disguised as a cane he got away with just strait up having a gun. Not a laser or wisp blast, just a bullet, and an apparently powerful one.
>>149336341The only reason the plan didn't work was because Ian retconned the Zeti's inherent fear of the conch.
Even faggot /co/ could write a better comic as long as you put masculine people in charge and not soiboy retards and simps and especially not filthy rednecks who never saw a city in their life.
Yeah I think a basic premise like Tails changing forms as he eats more emeralds and challenges various characters to races throughout Sonic 2 the video game's locations would be great.
>>149334046Part of Sega's instructions. No villain is allowed to rival Eggman. Hence why Naugus got nerfed hard in Archie to keep him from being able to be a threat.
>>149336911>Part of Sega's instructionsWhere is this one, I can get no romance/family.
>>149336329So, if Sonic and the Sword does good (just good, not excellent or record-breaking), will Sega abandon licensed comics and focus on manga?
>>149330086>bonus video?lol
lmao even
maybe in 2033
>>149336932>Where is this oneThe retcons to Surge and Kit's creation. Ian was setting it up that Starline made clones of Sonic and Tails but Ian was told by Sega that Starline can't do something that'd make him better than Eggman so it was changed to Starline abducting kids, brainwashing them, and installing a carapace along with the Metal Virus into their bodies. So Sega is fine with all of that because it was tech taken from Eggman.
>>149337206>it was changed to Starline abducting kids, brainwashing themHonestly? That's way more interesting than just regular old clones.
>>149336984Probably not, they've had comics since forever. More likely they'd just have both going on at the same time.
If I had a nickel for every time I wanted to fuck a bitchy sheep named Lanolin I'd have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird it's happened twice.
>>149337244>post implies anon wanted to fuck Garfield's LanolinSir... you are based.
>>149336984>mangaWhy would Sega cater to their smallest market? These fuckers don't want their manga translated by other people and they just now say they're having them officially translated. And I bet it's going to take a year before any of that happens.
>>149326249>IDW can write some great stories for TMNTIDW TMNT makes Sonic look like Shakespeare, wtf are you smoking. Sonic's merely boring, TMNT is offensively terrible.
>>149337711Imagine what Sonic would be if the "mandates" weren't there.
Looking at Transformers and TMNT should give people an idea.
>>149337668I'm guessing Vector must be disturbed by what I assume are the front lower fangs piercing through the noseholes.
>>149337668>No shoes>No glovesHood culture strikes again
>>149337668Vector's cousin, Vimpy.
I'm going to kiss the sheep and have her slap me across the face.
what kind of wife would the sheep be?
>>149338698The kind that acts tough and uncaring but really, truly cares for her partner and will keep them safe no matter what.
>>149338698On that berates you all the time, but makes up for it in seemingly excessive ways later because she knew she overreacted. She's also moody like 90% of the day and can't help but look at you with a judgemental look.
She hates herself more than she hates you but loves you but doesn't want to really outwardly admit it.
>>149338771Did
>>149338743 hit the mark there, Lanolin? You sound like you took that personally.
>>149332053I suspect he's never read any of the comics at all.
>>149331182They finally allowed to move to Frontiers?
Eggman finally gets arrested for his monstrous crimes?
Starline comes back and he's no longer an egg simp?
We see other humans from SA1,SA2, and Unleashed?
>>149331182It'll end abruptly in the middle of a story arc.
>>149331182It's going to end rather abruptly with no real send off, if there is one, it'll be extremely generic and half-assed like Archie seeing that's how Ian ended it.
Do you all think her wool's as waxy and slimy as real sheep with heavy amounts of lanolin in their fleece?
>>149336329And yet here we are, over 70 goddamn issues in going on 80, with nothing to fucking show for it. The whole conceit of using your supposed borrowed time paralyzed, doing nothing like a deer in headlights, is so antithetical to Sonic as a franchise it's baffling.
They should be treating every issue like it could be their last by making every issue fucking count. They should go wild and crazy with it, make each issue a compressed adventure in itself if they were that worried about it.
Instead we're stuck with a bunch of useless plot threads that are guaranteed to never be fully resolved. All because these writers are cowards that fundamentally do not understand Sonic.
>>149324777 (OP)OK hear me out, what if this Sonic The Hedgehog comic staring Sonic The Hedgehog from Sonic The Hedgehog had a spin off mini-series heavily featuring Actual Sonic The Hedgehog characters from the Sonic The Hedgehog series instead?
>>149336477I can't think of a worse way to conclude the arc than going "wait a minute Super Sonic can fix everything in literally half a second, why didn't we do this earlier?"
>>149324777 (OP)I think they should reveal that she's a sleeper agent that serves someone else
They should canonize her being autistic as it perfectly explains her behavior and guilttrips the fandom at the same time. You could then pretend it was planned from the start and that this was their gigabased way of representing autists realistically. No, the representation won't be some quirky socialite with reddit humor, gets support from friends and has an extreme talent for something. You get the reality instead, it's a bitchy person with poor social skills, widely disliked in-universe, her mother hates her, painfully below average at everything she attempts and is perennially unhappy.
Guess who's now a certified videogame character
>>149340702is this from the card game or forces mobile?
>>149340702Her model was removed in the following update btw
>>149340811Which means gradual DLC updates rather than all at once
>>149337711>>149337727You guys don't know bad until you read IDW's MLP. It's just as offensibly bad when Faust left, but the people IDW allowed to work on the dumb horse comics , the "writers" and their "artists" are The Room levels of bad. Especially the artists. Sonic has good art compared to it.
>>149336911So Ian & the rest are just incompetent idiots who don't know how to monkey paw the easiest gullible race in existence.
>No villain is allowed to rival Eggman.A clone of Eggman rivals Eggman ;)
A time travelling Eggman rivals Eggman ;)
A hero rivals Eggman ;)
An antihero rivals Eggman ;)
A villain doesn't rival Eggman, the villain completely washes the fucking floor with Eggman.
A villain forces Eggman to work for them to not rival him, but Eggman is given a janitor job.
Eggman gets absorbed by the new villain so technically the new villain is Eggman ;)
I'd use the last one and give the villain the nickname Cell just to fuck with Sega.
>>149341202Sounds like you're trying to pull a Penders and create your own Robotnik. Also the rule only applies to OCs. That's how the Deadly Six were able to kick out Eggman and take over things during Metal Virus. And Sega doesn't even like their Eggman copies. Eggman Nega can never be used or even referenced. He's only allowed in the Olympic games.
>>149332837Damn... I really don't understand why she's promoted like she's equal to Tangle and Whisper.
>>149333926I was gonna mention Knuckles already being the third member, but I donโt even think SEGA considers him the third member anymore
>what about the moviesThe games arenโt the movies
>>149341245>Also the rule only applies to OCs. That's how the Deadly Six were able to kick out EggmanWhat a bunch of hypocrites. Deadly Six might as well just be OCs straight out of Super Mario.
>>149337374Holy shit, she really is the same character.
>>149341281Knuckles needs to have a good reason to leave the island. He can't be gone for too long. That's why Metal Sonic taking over Angel Island at the start of the IDW series forced Knuckles to go back and stay there.
The SEGA restrictions are good. Western artists tend to grind characters for short gains and so constantly reboot and create parallel universes to fix what they broke.
>>149341299>The SEGA restrictions are goo-ACKKK SHADOW NOOO DON'T GET KILLED BY THE METAL VIRUS NOOOOProtected character my ass.
>>149341237dang. i'd kill to see her make it over to forces along with kit
>>149329996>TAILS ERASUREIt ian't like AoStH where Sonic and Tails are travelling together. Bro leaves him to his workshop to go wherever, so he can have a sidekick for each adventure.
>>149341344>Ian keeps crashing into the guard rils so there should be no preventative measures whatsoever
>>149341299That's literally what they did with Starline though.
>>149333291She sucks, bro. Fanboys like you gross me out with how you lot act like zealots and accept anything Sonic, regardless of quality.
>>149334168>If you're worried about it revolving around a boring construction project or the restoration, don't, Jewel is right there as the most kidnappable character of all time. If it were to revolve around said project instead of anything more interesting that'd be entirely the writer's fault.Nigga, it's Sonic. There shouldn't be a set setting. It's gotta be a different adventure in different place every time. Keep moving forward and don't look back.
>>149335726>I could easily see her being a main character in a Frontiers adaptation.With Sonic, right?
>>149333291>selective memory.Selective Memory?
Belle and Lanolin have barely done anything to remember them by in the first place. Lanolin in particular has barely done anything yet. Her accidentally destroying a building is literally her biggest accomplishment.
>>149337227>Probably not, they've had comics since forever.So? There's no money in comics. These companies have to pay SEGA for the license to make Sonic comics.
>>149337260>Why would Sega cater to their smallest market?Bro, that's the comics. They don't sell for shit. Manga sells better.
>>149341673>Bro, that's the comics. They don't sell for shit. Manga sells better.Bro Japan is the worst market for Sonic in any medium. Even the movies did horribly over there. They really don't give a fuck about Sonic.
>>149341567>ACHKK SHADOW don't job to Starline in disguise! How is he not fired yet for his blunders? Instead he's hired to write for Frontiers' dialogue? Sega are goddamn cucks since Penders and since Gearbox.
>>149341293Remember the good ol' times when Knuckles just went adventuring, air gearing, etc... with Sonic and company, and we laughed about what a bad guardian he was?
I miss those times...
>>149341741I genuinely don't get how he's able to openly shit in one of the most popular characters when he simultaneously complains mandates are protecting the character.
>>149341741>>149341754>How is he not fired yet for his blunders?Because the nice xitter, reddit and tumblr communities rally behind him and protect him like a sacred cow from "evil unfair criticism".
And they are so vocal, they actually made Sega think he could pull the game writer dialogue gig.
>>149341741>>149341754Shadow is protected in that he has to act a certain. Being arrogant and getting his shit pushed in for is part of the mandate. That's why Ian doesn't write him that much. He can't have Shadow be happy and have friends. He's supposed to be a loner that only cares about fighting strong people.
>>149341779>He can't have Shadow be happy and have friends.Like Vegeta.
>He's supposed to be a loner that only cares about fighting strong people.Lime Vegeta.
>>149341779>He's supposed to be a loner that only cares about fighting strong people.He's a loner but he doesn't care about fighting strong people. He cares about filfilling Maria's wish on protecting the planet and its people. But unlike the traditional hero, he does it in an ends justify the means type of deal because he's the typical anti-hero. He doesn't care about rules and regulations, because he'll just brute force through anything because he could. He's like Sonic in that regard, but darker.
>>149341819And he does that by fighting strong people and usually by himself. If he's ever with Rouge and Omega that's because it's part of an assignment.
>>149341720>Even the movies did horribly over there. They really don't give a fuck about SonicNeither does the rest of the world. Mario and Stitch made an easy billion in a week with $100 million budgets. Mario made that billion BEFORE it got to Japan and S Korea. Sonic's a nobody in the grand scheme of things. He has very little appeal.
>>149341851Let's not pretend this is suddenly an IP without tempered expectations. Sega has understood for a while that Sonic is a character who fills a specific niche. It's why these comics can continue to even exist.
>>149341846>And he does that by fighting strong people and usually by himself.Sure, but it's all for Maria. Dude's like The Crow. https://youtu.be/inUCmh3LY9Y?si=OzNU4Iajsl1fDadh
>>149341879>It's why these comics can continue to even exist.They exist because IDW's paying them for the license. Same deal as Archie. Archie didn't lose the license, but instead chose to not renew it to focus on Riverdale.
>>149341299>American artists tend to grind characters for short gains and so constantly reboot and create parallel universes to fix what they broke.Fixed
>>149341851Sonic has the same appeal/popularity as Megaman & Astroboy which is next to zero. Megaman's last animated show isn't even talked about on /co/.
>>149341851Don't start with that bullshit. The Sonic movies did well critically and commercially. Just because it didn't make a billion dollars doesn't mean it's a failure. It's night and day with Japan. I wonder if the third movie managed to crack a million over there.
>During its opening weekend in Japan, spanning three days, the movie achieved remarkable milestones:>ยฅ69 million (~$470,000) in box office revenue.>By January 5, 2025, the filmโs cumulative success had skyrocketed:>ยฅ170 million (~$1.16 million) in total revenue.Meanwhile
>Sonic the Hedgehog 3 premiered in North America a week earlier on December 20, 2024, strategically timed for the Christmas season. Over its opening weekend (December 20โ22), the film grossed an astounding $62 million (~ยฅ9.73 billion), solidifying its position as the #1 film at the box office.
>>149341919>They exist because IDW's paying them for the license.And Sega wouldn't even be selling if they didn't know exactly what niche Sonic fills for American fans.
Why do fanboys forget you can make money without aiming the be number 1? That's literally how most IPs survive.
>>149342013>The Sonic movies did well critically and commerciallyNot as well as Mario and Stitch. Critics are pretentious snobs and don't see eye to eye with the audience and their tastes. That's why audience scores are what's important. Not tomatoes.
>It's night and day with JapanIt's not just Japan, bro. It's the world.
>>149341741Ianโs dick riders on twitter and youtube give the games free exposure when heโs on them. Sega is currently pandering very hard to influencers and v-tubers. Firing him would cause too much pr backlash to be worth it.
>>149342013>>149342063Itโs worth noting almost all of sonic 3โs revenue came from america and latin america and australia. Europe and Asia Pacific did not want to see it at all
Critically nowadays is more nuanced. Some fandoms will absolutely dogpile a movie with positive reviews just because itโs part of their cult fandom to call it โpeakโ even if it was shit. In cases like that movie critics are a lot less biased. In Sonic 3โs case critics were more fair and pointed out things like its weak story, constant mcu quips and how Tails didnโt do anything.
>>149342214>Tails didnโt do anything.Tailscelโฆ..
>>149342230Mind pointing out what he did contribute then?
The entire story is so weak that the third act is just sonic saying heโll use the chaos emeralds he had the whole time and solo the conflict. Tails is only there for useless comic relief with the token gay indian. Knuckles is only there to save them last minute in the fall, which is also weak but he at least contributes anything.
>>149342247Donโt bother. Sonicfags who self insert as the character just have a seething hateboner for tails.
If you criticise the story if any way theyโll start blubbering โoh you must be a tails fan then thatโs the only reason you say bad things about muh sonicโ
>>149342271Sounds like a symptom of โchronically online-itisโ
>>149342247Heโs there to look cute and sell merchandise. Thatโs literally been his role since his inception. Only braindead pedophilic self-inserters like you think he should have some grand role in the story.
>>149342288Roasted that piggie.
>>149342288Based.
Fuck Tailsfags.
>>149342304>>149342309you know we can see your post timer, right?
God you sonicfags will never realise your cult mentality is why your franchise is going down the drain. Instead you'll only cry and blame a Tails boogeyman so you don't have to ever improve your writing to actually be good.
>>149342331Kek
Itโs funny cause itโs true. Soniccucks are the ultimate soiboy consoomers
>>149342288Hello? Based department!
>>149342344Saying this when nintoddlers and pokefags exist
>>149342359Pokemonfags and Mariofags can both dissect and criticise their own shit. Mariofags acknowledged they wanted Luigi to do more in their film, although he still appeared at the end to beat Bowser.
You're seeing a live example of what happens if you tell a Sonicfag anything critical about their slop. They cry and whee like piggies and say if you like Luigi or want him to take part then you're part of wrongthink.
>>149342381>Pokemonfags and Mariofags can both dissect and criticise their own shitLOL. LMAO. ROFL EVEN!
>>149342288He's still seething over this
>>149342407Youโre still replying to yourself
>two Sonic threads
>both full of Tails haters
Wasnโt expecting that.
>>149342421Sonicfags are insane and have no life off the computer. More news at 7.
>>149342288Yeah. So many people lose sight of Sonic characters trying to reinvent the wheel. Let Amy and Tails just be Sonicโs cute admirers. That was their intended function. Stop trying to turn them into something theyโre not.
>>149342420>anyone who disagrees with me is the same personSchizophrenia alert.
Take your meds.
>>149342406Nice reddit phrase
Scarlet & Violet got torn to pieces and fairly criticised for its problems
Soniccucks slurp up Sonic Forces and Frontiers and yell how their false advertised BoW emulator is โpeak aura bruh ahhhโ
>>149342429Tailsโ intended function was to take part and fight giant robots. Itโs what heโs done since he debuted.
The movies turn him into something heโs not by removing that and making him useless. If you consume that shit then you blatantly want to change what he is.
>>149342271Why is your response to
>Who cares if Tails didn't do anything in Sonic 3Somehow
>YOU SELF INSERT AS SONIC
>>149342459His intended function was to let your sibling do something irrelevant while watching player 1 fights giant robots as the cool blue dude.
>>149342450>Scarlet & Violet got torn to pieces and fairly criticisedIt also sold better than anything except gen 1...
>>149342478You canโt criticse something you never play.
Pokefans live in reality, Soniccucks eat suit and call it caviar.
>>149342468Pattern recognition from various threads
>>149342475that โsomething irrelevantโ was fighting the same exact giant robots. Not watching, fighting.
Thatโs his intended function.
>>149342421Tailsfags are the Indians of Sonic threads. Theyโre low IQ, obsessively horny all the time, and rightfully hated by the entire planet.
I'm beginning to see why the Mario movie was so much better now.
>>149342513it's the same reason why everything Mario winds up better
>>149342493My point is critism doesnt matter if Nintendo/TPC/GF sees people voting with their wallet. Specially since Scarlet and Violet is essentially the end point of the Wild Area from Sword and Shield, which also sold well. They certainly think they are doing good by their audience.
>>149342421I just don't care about Tails, I don't hate him. So when he didn't contribute much in the third movie I honestly didn't notice. This is a passive reaction, not an active agenda.
>>149342526criticism takes its payment in future installments.
If people criticise and you don't improve, the next one won't sell.
If people don't criticise, you'll just keeping making slop forever.
>>149342493Yeah I'd say I live in reality because I abandoned the series after how much Sun and Moon sucked and Black and White were the last good games.
Just make Mystery Dungeon games, I'm sick of training pokemon ffs.
>>149342538Flynn working on the series at all is a result of Sonicfans criticizing Pontac and Graffโs writing.
>>149342538>criticism takes its payment in future installments.It did not in this specific situation. GF literally doubled down on the Wild Area which was considered the least polished portion of Sword and Shield. And then they were awarded for it.
How the fuck did this turn into another thread of Tails fans acting like perpetual victims? Have Tails and Lanolin even interacted in the comics?
>>149342591Thereโs one deranged Tailsschizo on /co/ who always wants to rant about Sonic. He shits up every thread.
>>149342591How the fuck did this turn into another thread of Sonic fans acting like perpetual victims and throwing Tailsfags under the bus? Jeez I dunno, furfag.
>>149342605>Furries attacking other furriesMario: Stop. Wait ... let me grab the popcorn.
Also stop picking on your little brother cause he's smarter than you, Sonicfags.
>>149342608They always need a scapegoat to avoid having to take criticism or improve. That scapegoat is usually Tails cause he has the most to complain about, throw Tailsfags under the bus and you can pretend theyโre all perfect. Also cause he isnโt one of the edgy tryhard hedgehogs the furfags imagine themselves to be
>>149342421I don't hate Tails. I hate his "fans" who just use him to self insert /ss/ for EVERYTHING and shit up threads. I swear they are the same people who do that shit on Dragon ball threads
>>149343051God forbid people post Tails in ships. Noone gets angry at you โshitting up threadsโ by posting Sonic x Sally or Amy by yourself, but do that for Tails and (you) suddenly blow a gasket because you donโt self insert as that particular furry male.
>>149342421To be fair, the stayed on topic for the most part of it, it was only that the Tailsfags and Tailshaters migrated from the other thread.
>>149342608>>149342672You genuinely seem like a schizophrenic person.
>>149343051I like Tailsmo and Tailsream, though...
>>149343078I usually post Tails with Zoey and I usually don't have any issues.
>>149343078You ignorant retard.
>>149343093Those are fine because they have some merit from Sonic X and their age bracket.
>>149342672This post makes no fucking sense in context of this thread. This whole thread was us criticizing IDW Sonic and talking about things that could be improved until you showed up, and Tails wasn't even a topic of scrutiny.
>>149342605Funny how every major Sonic character seem to have a dedicated deranged person to mud the character's reputation.
>>149343112>and their age bracketReturn to twitter you โignorantโ low t tranny
>>149324777 (OP)I miss the dress
>>149343112Tails and Cream arenโt even a thing in Sonic X or anywhere. They have the least โmeritโ
Youโre just an absolute loser who literally gets triggered at Tails x hot girls because heโs not the boring bland male you self insert as.
โNooo if you post Tails x Rouge or Vanilla youโre shitting up the thread because I want my self insert to fuck themโ how about you just get off the computer and touch some grass instead you fat fuck
>>149343137I hate to sound sexist but every female OC in IDW besides Jewel needs a new wardrobe. They all dress so incredibly drab.
You guys should post more sheep porn, thag would settle the issue I think
>>149343158>Implying Cosmo and Cream aren't hot
>>149343112lmao go back to /r/eddit you soiboy little bitch
>>149343161>They all dress so incredibly drab.Try-hard-OC syndrome
>>149343112yaaaaaasss this is so heckin problematic of them fellow transisters
>someone touched a nerve
kek, lmao even.
>>149343223>dilate and cry how you hate a furry because muh agegaps and because you're a self-inserter and a twitter troon>"Go back to /r/eddit">"wow, umm, touched a nerve much?"Go back to /r/eddit, troon
>>149343051>>149343112>>149343223I hope people post more Tails /ss/ in future just to make you have a panic attack. 4chan isn't your safe space, redditcuck
>>149343249>immediately replies because they feel targeted by the postSometimes, you fags made it is just too easy, kek.
>>149343283I don't feel targeted, I feel like (YOU) need to go back to the land of your fellow snowflake trannies where you belong, crybaby little furry
>>149343302>I don't feel targetedClearly you do, otherwise why did you reply? Was I talking about you, hmm?
>>149343334I'm talking about (YOU). Go back and have your panic attacks there, queermo
Love how all these characterfags always like to act like blameless victims, but ultimately always show their true colors.
Be it Shadow, Tails, Amy, etc... they always show their true colors.
>>149343328>this sends someone into a seething buttblastSometimes I forget the people who seethe at Tails have no adult lives
>>149343339Again, if you didn't feel identified, why did you reply? Clearly something about that post triggered you.
>>149343328>MichiyoshiBased much?
>>149343158Cream showed care for Tails in the Archie reboot when he was eliminated by Honey.
>>149341586>With Sonic, right?Yes? I don't like how out of focus Sonic is as character in IDW either, but I also don't like how, even with the OCs front and center, they haven't been interesting beyond "some of them MIGHT be gay".
>>149343051>>149343112/ss/ is based, youโre just a fag cuck loser
>>149343596This. Imagine being the type of social media brainwashed brainlet who has to look up a characterโs age on a fanwiki before liking them. Then coming into 4chan and expecting us to abide by your rules of what makes you triggered. If this is you then seriously go back to twitter
Speaking of Tails, his part of the last arc was completely pointless, wasn't it? Did anyone actually enjoy his and Amy's stealth segment? Imagine if they didn't hog up so much panel time that could have been dedicated to Sonic's Phantom Rider stunt instead.
>B-but Lanolin has too much tooWrong, she got shockingly little focus in that arc despite the Duo subplot and was part of a conflict with Sonic. She takes zero time away from him in that arc by actually doing stuff with him, Tails however steals time. What was even the point of the Tails stuff, to expose the obvious manipulator as manipulating in the shadows without actually doing anything? Why on earth was that a bigger priority to show us than Sonic doing Phantom Rider stuff, which was actually fun?
>>149342591The closest thing to an interaction is when she's disqualifying Sonic from the race, Tails is behind him. But yeah they haven't really interacted at all, to the point where I'm not even sure if they know each other's names.
>>149344279Amy and Tails barely feel like two characters when they are expected to play off each other. They function as one autonomous unit and it's extremely boring.
>>149343357Bro, quit playing the victim when people call you out for acting like a spaz. They're not the problem, you are.
>>149341245>Eggman Nega can never be used or even referencedHe absolutely can, Nega not being used is explicitly on Ian because he personally does not like him. Like, he's flat out admitted to using any sort of influence he has to keep Nega from being used.
https://x.com/Ovirtuous_/status/1719803533938065584
https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/18me3ny/ian_flynn_reveal_why_he_hate_eggman_nega/
>>149342478And Frontiers is one of the best selling Sonic games. Using sales is a poor argument when Sonicfags are notoriously guilty of supporting outright slop.
Sonic 06 was a best seller and has people rabidly defending it to this day ffs.
>>149343353Shadow, Tails, and Amy are all naturally designed to have shit fans.
>AmyDeranged shippers and waifufags.
>Shadow and TailsAutists love to see themselves as badass edgelords or cute little innocents, so the most autistic fans latch onto these two. Hence why you have people outraged that Sonic is the main character of his own franchise and not Tails or Shadow.
>>149341293No the fuck he doesn't! That's literally a restriction Ian placed onto the series, and it's utterly pointless when it was never an issue until he made it one.
>>149344279The whole Riders arc was fundamentally broken top to bottom, because the race itself was never anything more than window dressing.
>>149345093>That's literally a restriction Ian placed onto the seriesNo, that sounds dumb enough to come from Sega.
>>149345251Then why was this never something the series had until Ian came onboard, shortbus? You fucking retards love to blame Sega as a whole for Ian's shortcomings, no matter how much evidence showing that most of the "mandates" were made up bullshit, whether by fans or by Ian himself. It's easier for you to blame some faceless entity than to admit that you rooted for a perpetual fuckup to take the reigns of the entire franchise.
>>149345251Sega doesn't even pretend to give a shit about the master emerald whenever it's not important to the story and never has
>>149345349Well no, see, I've been watching Sega made stupid decisions since the mid 90s, so yeah, its very believable.
>>149324777 (OP)I always hated how they did her hair. The only thing she has going for her is tits
>>149345368Why is knuckles going to kivotos?
>>149345408I like her bell.
>>149345368>>149345093>>149341293I don't even understand why the Master Emerald is a thing anymore. It's a magic MacGuffin that hasn't been relevant since SA1. I guess there's some story potential to it now because Frontiers showed it drawing the Chaos Emeralds to it, but if that's ever explained there'll be no mystery to it left at all.
We need more Lanolin fight scenes, I need more bell wispon in my life. She also needs to be allowed to just clobber characters with her fists and/or head. If her punching a bag is so intimidating that people thought she was abusing Tangle despite her saying nothing then she can absolutely beat the shit outta people.
>>149343596What do you guys think Surge's breastmilk tastes like?
>>149345718Like you mashed a bunch of sports energy drink powder into it, it's got a ton of electrolytes.
>>149345015Add Blaze to the naturally shitty fans as well. She belongs to all camps of deranged shippers and waifufags as well as autists who latch on to the quiet and stoic yet all powerful and flawless character.
>>149345349Can you give me an example of a mainline game where Knuckles doesnโt have a good reason for leaving the master emerald unguarded? I can only think of 06 and that game was intended to be a soft reboot. Riders is a spinoff and the story in those games are clearly an afterthought. It seems to me that they always try to give him some excuse like in Heroes he wanted to stop Eggmanโs fleet from conquering the world.
I think you can have a hard-ass female character and make it work. She just needs to be the butt of a joke when appropriate while also having some rarely-seen weaknesses where she cuts a little loose. If every interaction with her is some serious plot-related thing then no wonder people figures she's dull. But I haven't read everything with her yet.
It wouldn't be the first time a character was a little too concerned with following the rules or staying on-task, had a good character design and got over.
>>149336932It has to do with interfering with their brand. Eggman is the recognize villain of the IP, and having other villains around be able to one up him interferes with their image. So any villain that is made has to be either a henchman for him, or made out to be weaker than him.
>>149344911>eggman nega has never been used in a game that isn't multiplayer>>149345093>in order to be in frontiers, knuckles has to be kidnapped from angel islandThat damn Ian! Doing what Sega has also been doing! He must be doing this on his own! Sega's not at fault!
>>149344911Ian also has bias against the SatAM Robotnik ever coming back in any capacity. In fact, one of his first acts when coming aboard Archie was icing a big reveal of Robotnik returning to be Adam instead.
>>149347158Physically-Revolting Dystopian American Robotnik is a good design and I will no longer pretend otherwise
>>149345925>In Heroes they don't even bother explaining why he's with Sonic and Tails>Colors DS has Knuckles going to the amusement park because he thought he was invited, with the ME only being mentioned because he found Rogue there as well>Sonic Generations, he's just there for Sonic's birthday>Lost World, he's just there to help out Amy>In Forces he's part of the rebellion, with the ME not even mentionedAfter Sa1, guarding the ME was never really all that relevant outside of some occasional throwaway dialogue. It was Ian that made it seem like an issue at all, to the point where he even wanted to destroy it because of the limitation he put himself into.
>>149347185Tell that to the turbo autists who are either the Pingas brain rot tards or the purist weebs who only accept something if its japanese as legitimate.
>>149347227I mean I love Pingas Man but I also love how the American Robotnik is the meanest gorilla nigger dictator in existence, and is so evil he actually wins sometimes.
>>149346754>eggman nega has never been used in a game that isn't multiplayerRush is a multiplayer game now?
>in order to be in frontiers, knuckles has to be kidnapped from angel islandYou know Ian helped write Frontier's story, right? He's directly attributed to writing the prequel short where said kidnapping happened. Before this Sega hasn't done anything close to that since SA1, where the ME was a major plot point. In Frontiers it's literally to justify a question that didn't need to be answered.
Even for the usual Ian defenders, this is just braindead.
>>149347158That's only because of Ian's loyalty to the Archie comics he read, nothing more nothing less. SatAm died in Archie so he wanted him to say that way.
>>149347259That is bullshit. Ian hated the idea of more than one Robotnik existing, and thought such a concept would confuse readers. He seethed hard on his podcast when Prime introduced multiple Eggman.
>>149341741Ian hates Shadow and everything he stands for, maybe because he sees Shadows role(basically to second hero/co protagonist/rival role)from Segas eyes rightfully belong to Knuckles his favorite character, he'll never let him solo an overpowered threat that Sonic and Knuckles can't beat. Because he thinks Sonic and Knuckles(and sometimes Silver) are the only characters to be the special trump cards for being the most op hero of the cast and are akin to main character and main rival, Shadow is the third wheel guy to Ian, to be a hero but not a game changer hero the saves the day or world. Kinda like Trunks or Roxas.
>>149342421it was same shadow schizo in both, I don't know how you guys can't tell by now
>shadow x sheep tits
when did this happen?
>>149347341Ian read something about Shadow being Vegeta and is just plagiarizing that. He should feel some sense of shame that the recent Sonic movie actually managed to get Shadow's personality down perfectly.
>>149347158>>149347341This is Ian Flynn btw. Either he got bullied in elementary or he was the unpopular retard doing the bullying. What you see is what you get; a tub of lard redneck irresponsible asshole who doesn't even own to the fact he's an asshole like Penders.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Flynn
>>149347369you can find any sanic character fucking any other if you look hard enough, the fanboy in question simply gathered it all in one place for you
Let's ask the real questions. Would she enjoy being sheared? If you had items around the house made of her wool, would it be weird?
>>149348063She strikes me as being very uncomfortable being touched, and would prefer to do it herself.
>>149345599>It's a magic MacGuffin that hasn't been relevant since SA1Actually, Sonic Advance 3, but I get your point.
>>149343078>>149343093>>149343105Tails is a minor, the fuck is wring with you, hes not meant of shipping. Hes the kid sidekick that may or may not be for fangirls to play big brother little brother with Sonic.
>>149348912Who gives a fuck?
>>149343158>Tails x hot girls because heโs not the boring bland male you self insert as.Tails is boring and bland. And thr most generic everyman character who's a introvert nerd stereotype to self insert as. Thanks for confirming Tails sucks even more.
>>149347188Part of the fandom shares some of the guilt too for actually buying into Ian's bullshit and meme'ing Knuckles for leaving the ME "alone all the time".
Though, by design, the ME would be better if it was smaller. The movies seemed to go on the right track, as it allows Knuckles to carry it around in his pocket spaces (not counting the small ME from that SA2 cutscene).
>>149342288This, tails fans are worse than shadow fans.
>>149343596You'll die in prison one day.
>>149348912Ages were decanonized, chill. Doesn't matter anyway, it's a fictional character. So no harm, no foul I say.
>>149349036I think it is funny that two of the quoted posts are about official Tails love interest (Cosmo and Zoey), yet somehow, it is the anons' fault.
>>149349071Exactly, they don't watch the shows or play the games, they're just looking for something to bitch about because they're upset about something.
>>149349184They won't because he didn't fit in with the rest of the death cult that has taken over our entertainment.
>>149349217Because if IDW is gonna shove the crying lesbians down my throat, the least they could do is give me some decent milkers to ogle
>>149349184On one hand, I like ABT sneaking in as much boobs and ass as he can without Sega telling him to fix it.
On the other hand, I fear he will ruin Blaze's itty bitties the same way he gave Vanilla huge knockers (No, that last part is not a complain)
>>149349237I respectfully and blissfully agree to your reasoning.
>>149325461tangle is the best idw oc by far
the first issues with just her and jewel as the oc's were a lot better
whisper has dragged her down severely; they are bad for each other
>>149336385Iโve actually drawn goth Lanolin before, although itโs probably more punk than goth.
>>149349433hot
how much meth has she smoked to look that worn out
>>149349433>That pubic tuft on showFucking delicious, I could eat it
Guys, if they pit me in charge of the comics, I'll save the entire franchise
>>149349478That's the same lie Ian told us, and look at us now.
>>149349433That's awesome anon, she looks super cool
>>149345015Tails and Silver also have the potentialfags.
>>149349775>potentialfagsNTA, but I've read this term a few times before, but never fully understood it.
Mind redpilling me?
>>149349938It's a term born from battle shonen discussion.
Essentially, 'Potential Man' refers to characters who are noted in narrative to have great potential (enough to maybe even be the strongest) or are heavily wanked by the fanbase but rarely if ever live up to it.
>>149341299>>149334060Why does it seem appropriate for her to be a smoker?
>t. don't follow sonic comics
>>149350266if sega wasn't ran by pussies for pussies, Lanolin would 100% be a chronic drinker and casual smoker. She looks like her childhood wrecker her and it's showing in her behavior.
>>149349494I will give the people Sonic porn (officially licensed)!
Lanolin is the kind of lady that needed to be spanked more. I say we make some husbandos to correct that.
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>>149350917>the implants on her breastsShit, my sides
>>149351290Lanolin's potential shown in one image. An antagonistic hottie with an inferiority complex. I love it.
>>149348953>Part of the fandom shares some of the guilt too for actually buying into Ian's bullshit and meme'ing Knuckles for leaving the ME "alone all the time".That's sort of the issue in general. So much of the fandom is suffering from sunk cost fallacy. They don't want to every admit that Ian's writing isn't all that good anymore because they've made it their identity. So they'll gladly go along with whatever horseshit excuse Ian spits out, defeating the entire point of why they wanted him to begin with.
>>149349482Very nice and saved.
Do Sonic characters really make people horny?
>>149352300The mountain of porn these characters have says: "Yes".
I do love on drinking fresh sheep's milk straight from the source.
>>149352632I'd cuddle both and I have a feeling she wouldn't let me go for the whole damn weekend.
>>149347341I remember that one arc in Reboot Archie where Ian had Shadow struggle against Knuckles. That was purely him venting.
>>149349036>Ages were decanonizedAfter about two decades of history? Lol, sorry, you can't get rid of something like that and expect it to be erased from everyone's minds.
>>149352668Knuckles feeds off the power of the Master Emerald. Shadow is a mutant alien. One clearly has a bigger edge in a slug fest.
>>149352705>Knuckles feeds off the power of the Master Emerald.Since when?
>>149352754>Lanolin aura farming just before sucking the new recruit's dick in the locker room.
>>149352719is the milk causing her to grow? or is she getting milked when she's sleeping?
confusing context
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but it would be great to see a Lanolin BE story
>>149352808>"Rookie, you say a word about this and you're getting a sound blast to the crotch. Lock the door and stand at attention, maggot..."
>>149352674Not to mention the whole "the ages were decanonized" is just Sonic Team removing them from Sonic Channel so, most likely Western, fans stop bitching about Sonic still being labeled as 15 after Generations.
>>149352738NTA, but in comics or games?
Don't get me wrong, I want Knuckles to power up and finally earn a damn super form through the ME, but I don't remember that ever being mentioned in the games (other than he can feel its power).
It's unfair that Guardian of the Sol Emeralds Blaze has a power-up from, when the Guardian of the ME doesn't.